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Tuesday, May 23, 2006

Welcoming a Fox to the barn

By Jennifer Solis

Mexican President Vicente Fox will make the final stop of his victory lap through the western United States Thursday in California, hoping to influence support for Senate approval of amnesty for a tenth of Mexico’s citizens now residing north of its frontier.

His tour also attempts to shore up credibility for his embattled National Action Party, which is in a tight race with the leftist Democratic Revolution Party for the July 2nd presidential election, in which Fox cannot run as an incumbent. Migration is the loudest, unspoken issue of the campaign. More than 40,000 Mexicans living in the U.S. are registered to vote in Mexico.

During Fox’s almost six years in office, his government has encouraged millions of its poorest citizens to cross its northern border, by printing handbooks of helpful hints for avoiding “La Migra,” and cooperating military officials to expedite the “coyotes” in transporting their human cargo. The $20-billion a year that that these people send back to Mexico makes immigration the most important segment of the country’s economy.

President Fox says his visit is to encourage investment, and to show his total support for the defense of human rights. Reporters who have tried to question him on this tour are told that there will be no comments, beyond the scripted speeches he will give to very selected audiences in Utah, Washington and California. This policy does not sit well with American journalists.

They want to know why his country is pushing hard for legalizing immigrants here in the U.S., while maintaining one of the most restrictive immigration policies in the world. Don’t ask! Fox has also cancelled previously scheduled meetings with editorial boards.

The last thing that Fox wants to discuss is the failure of his “reform” party to clean up the mess in his own backyard, which is a primary cause of the mass exodus – one of the largest in human history. Corruption is institutionalized in Mexican society, especially at the local level. Public servants are expected to supplement their low wages with whatever “mordida” (the bite) they can extract from the citizens for government services, including health and police protection.

Meanwhile, the taxpayers of California have had to pay out more than $12-billion a year to provide social services, including education, for those who have escaped from Mexico’s dysfunctional system. Fox will address Thursday a joint meeting of the state legislature, where he expects a generous reception, considering the number of Hispanic surnames on the roster of lawmakers.

But early this week, at least one senator announced he would boycott the speech, and more are sure to follow – a protest against Mexican policies which have caused great economic harm to California. When Fox started his tour in Salt Lake City, Utah, on Tuesday, his audience had to be requested to stand up and applaud when he arrived for his first local address to church and business leaders.

Like most politicians, President Fox’s opinions are shaped mainly by what he reads and sees in the mainstream American media. He has been encouraged by the mass rallies and marches of the past few weeks, and emotional appeals for amnesty from leading lawmakers. But underlying this rosy view is a deep resentment by the great majority of Americans, who would rather talk about high fences, National Guard presence on the border and sanctions for employers who hire illegal immigrants.

Our best suggestion for Senor Presidente, when he leaves Los Angeles Friday, is to fly over Mexico to its southern border, and try to cross as an unrecognized, undocumented immigrant. Perhaps he will wake up to the reality of sovereignty, which is the trend, not only here in America, but in the rest of the industrialized world.


Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is it a coincidence that former gangbanger mayor, Tony Villar, has opened up a new "Office of Immigrant Affairs"??????

Just in time for his private mtg. with his co-President of Mexico? I suppose it gives them some private time to put the finishing touches on the new Office of Illegal Affairs. BTW, the illegals will be spoon fed when they arrive.....they will be instructed on how to get the free municipal services, welfare, food stamps, and all the other scams. Their legal status will not be questioned.

Get ready LA, it is the worst nightmare of your life. And this is only the beginning.

May 24, 2006 3:00 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ARe we just going to sit by and allow this asshole to come into our city acting as if he's KING? How dare our mayor treat him as if he's somebody knowing full well that because of him are city spends millions on illegals and that asshole doesn't do anything for his own country. Now he doesn't want to speak to media....GO AFTER HIM REPORTERS.


May 24, 2006 6:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Knowing what a bunch of losers we have as city council members I have a feeling the mayor will take him to city council on Friday and give him some type of presentation. If they do we should all be outraged.

May 24, 2006 7:20 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

We are at war with Al Qaeda you morons! Not Mexico!

May 24, 2006 7:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

AV, another dumb Chicano activist, kissing ass to an aristocrat who cheats his own people. Chicano activists love their heritage but are too stupid to understand and see the failures of its society when it is presented to them.
We (Mexicans) will never improve if we have elites like AV coddling with aristocrats like Vicente.

May 24, 2006 7:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


You are the moron. The uncontrolled exodus of immigrants entering is hurting this country. Therefore this country has a conflict it needs to address, just like we had to address the terrorists issue. Mexico's laxity to reform and improve its society and economic strife are major problems that is trickling down to the United States in the form of illegal immigrants. It may not mean war but this country does need to question Mexico's practice and the Head of State of Mexico is open game.

May 24, 2006 8:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

We need to organize something for Friday....

How about protesting the taxpayer funded Mayors Mansion...The Getty House, on Irving Blvd. in Hancock Park.

There will probably be some kind of reception there.

Any thoughts?

May 24, 2006 9:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Don't even bother to respond to anyone like Anon. 8:45. These people are just AV's goons and they need to be ignored. We have bigger fish to fry.

This is WAR!!!!

Right now we have to get everyone to the polls for the June 6th Primary. Vote out anyone or anything Mexican. Make a list and check it twice!

The former gang member mayor is trying to register every illegal who breathes so that they can vote on June 6.

Get out the vote!

May 24, 2006 9:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Senate is about to belch its flawed amnesty plan onto the American people, i.e., citizenship rights to illegals, social security for illegals, amnesty for employers who hire illegals; Heritage Foundation that estimates this will lead to 70-100 million ++ more immigrants in the next 20 years. List goes on.

Protests are great, but also focus energy on the US House, call Speaker Hastert, David Dreier etc, and tell them NO amnesty, NO guest worker, & that you disagree with Rep. Mike Pence's plan to allow illegals to return to Mexico for a new "worker visa." Focus on enforcement!! This rehash of the failed 1986 amnesty is unacceptable! Call, write, email ASAP. Please.

May 24, 2006 9:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

All the hate you have against the so called illegals is a reflection of your own failure.

I have yet to meet a successful person complaining about poor working people.

Get a life, get laid or get a hug from someone before you die alone and alienated from humanity.

If am wrong about anonymous bloggers, IDENTITY yourself and take responsibility for low life that has you blogging instead of living.

Joanne Blake

May 24, 2006 10:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


I disagree. I commented in that fashion to educate someone who can not see. I also commented as ANON 7:50 because I hate seeing my kind act like victims. I hate seeing dumb idiots like AV pandering to one of the real enemies of my people. I don't care if I fail in convincing people of Mexican descent (my kind) but I am going to die trying (thats not to say that 7:45 is Mexican).

And you talking about war? A Civil War is what Mexico needs and it can only begin when the Middle-class of Mexico (which so happen to live in the US) become activists for change in the Mother country. But I will be shot for saying things like this.

May 24, 2006 10:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


A reflection of my own failure? I am a successful person (an engineer) and a product of Mexican Immigrants. My parents were poor and struggled to get here. I will even confess that my dad came here illegal in the 1960s (twice and was deported). (He eventually followed legal methods to get in). Yes I can follow my people's message that our people come here to find work... but I tend to rationalize things.

I care about my people and hate seeing the failures in our Mother country continue. Racist like that aristocrat Vicente Fox and so called chicano activist like AV who don't think are our problems.

May 24, 2006 11:15 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


What have you done to organize against your mexican government; and chicanos like antonio?

Both ran for public office.

Are you just an arnchair blogger?

you sound like a bitter unsuccessful engineer to me?

Joanne Blake

May 24, 2006 12:28 PM  

Blogger samrocha said:

Hi, I found your blog on a blog search, I enjoyed looking through your blog I will be back to look through the archives, I recently posted on Fox’s visit too, feel free to come and share in the dialogue…


May 24, 2006 12:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Joanna Blake.....hmmmm....sure it's not something like Anna Garcia? Oh, well, anyone can make up a name on this board.

FYI, my family has been here for generations and have been pioneers in the development of this city. For this reason I, and every American citizen in this state, despise people like you. I'm sure that you are one of the 20M ILLEGAL aliens invading our country.

No AMERICAN would begin to spew your hate speech. Go back to where you came from...did you say you are from Tijuana?

You are full of crap!

John Smith

May 24, 2006 1:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Bitter. How weak? True I am not a politician and I am not sure that I will consider it. Nor do I have a name for myself to be of interest. But I try where I can... I enjoy spending time with people of my kind (including others) by showing them how to interview for (engineering) jobs. I also enjoy tutoring math and explaining to young kids (mostly Mexican) to attend college. That's my joy. I feel nothing bitter about that because I love seeing my kind and other people learn.

Successful... you make of it what you want... Oh yeah... I'll armchair blogger tomorrow evening.

May 24, 2006 1:20 PM  

Blogger Archie Bunker said:

Is it me or does Vicente Fox looks like Saddam Hussein.

I think Bush met to go to war with Mexico.

May 24, 2006 1:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Joanne Blake has "yet to meet a successful person complaining about poor working people".

Who on this blog is complaining about poor working people? The people you seem to be taking aim at have been talking about one specific group: trespassing foreigners who come to our home to get free services, lower our wages and overcrowd our schools and hospitals. And if you assume none of us are successful, you're an even bigger idiot. It's because I worked my way up from nothing that I am so furious about what they do.

But you've proven your complete lack of any brain cells with this gem: "Get a life, get laid or get a hug". I've got one for you: "Get screwed". I'm guessing you're one of those "successful" people you referenced. I can guarantee most of the "successful" people in LA DON'T complain about the illegals. That's because they've come to love them as cheap nannies & gardners & cooks.

Since when was bringing foreigners into the US illegally & in a dangerous fashion to pay them slave wages an admirable cause? That's what this is all about, isn't it? You & your "successful" friends probably have a whole army of below-minimum wage workers taking care of your lawns, your kids and your filet mignon dinners.

The people who pay the cost: the poor US citizens who can no longer get services for their disabled children, blind parents or sick friends. It is a fact that illegals are responsible for the bankrupting of numerous trauma centers & hospitals and schools. YOU are the one with no humanity - so that you can sit on your ass while someone waxes your floor for the equivalent of lunch money, kids in California are getting the worst education in the country and the elderly of California aren't able to get even basic health care. YOU should be ashamed to put your name on anything. I'd be glad to put my name on here if only I weren't terrified some gangbanger from El Salvador wouldn't take note of it - THIS is the humanity Latin America has sen to the US: the bloodiest most vicious gang our country has ever seen. But Joanne, maybe you've got enough humanity to invite some MS17 to live at your house awhile?

May 24, 2006 3:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:15 makes a great point: What about all those left in Mexico? Doesn't anyone care about them? I just saw a heartbreaking story about all these kids abandoned by parents who came to the US & never went back. What a horrible thing to do to a child! All in the name of money - what about that child's mental health? Why have the child in the first place?

If no one ever stands up to policies such as Fox's, the people in Mexico are truly left behind, economically, psychologically.. Why doesn't Fox stay home and fix his country for ALL his people instead of just the deserters whose US dollars fund his lifestyle? He is a terrible leader and a terrible example of a Mexican, all Mexicans should decry his outragsous callousness.

May 24, 2006 3:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:03/"john smith" - Isn't Anna Garcia rumored to be Rocky's main squeeze?

May 24, 2006 3:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

great points 3:05 !!

May 24, 2006 3:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

...I have yet to meet a successful person complaining about poor working people.....

Joanne you obviously aren't talking to the right people. There are plenty of very successful well educated people in Century City complaining about the illegals. Answer me why these illegals haven't even bothered to register for citizenship? You should have been at the ceremony where 2,000 people of all races got their citizenship legally. Why should the illegals get a free pass? Some have been here over 15 years, been getting free services now they DEMAND they continue without any consequences. I say deport them back with that attitude.

May 24, 2006 3:52 PM  

Anonymous Luis Miguey said:

I only have one thing to say, there are two kinds of poeple all over the world, and not becuase of poverty or even education. It is dependant on the fact that people were meant to lower cast of societies. In mexico you have the haves and the "chuntaros". In the US you have the afluent and you have the "redneck" and so on. Heck even blacks shy away from those that are "Nigerant", even chris rock said it in Oprah. I as a mexican in mexico would never date a girl of that catagory, becuase she little or nothing at all to offer. we need to accept that they will always be the beast of burdens until something lights up in their arse and drives them to success. until then, I will enjoy the fruits of my labour here in xihantanejo. CIAO boludos

May 24, 2006 5:15 PM  

Blogger Cualli Ocelotl said:

Thank, you Luis Miguey. Thank you for being an example of how the majority of Mexicans think about its indigenous class. Thank you for proving that a Caste system still exists in Mexico.

Chicano and Mexica activists,

You go to protest complaining about the injustice America has against us Mexicans, when you have gente like Luis Miguey thinking in that fashion.
You activists are failures for not understanding Mexican society. Social reform in U.S. has gone too far to the left and your activism should be directed toward Mexico to encourage social reform and end hatred. You activists need to stop being dumb. Illegal immigration is evidence of how aristocrats and the so called "civil" class dominates the social landscape of Mexico. And this illegal immigration is a form of ethnic cleansing of indigenous people.

You are fools if you believe in Vicente Fox.

May 24, 2006 8:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:00 You're a fool to believe Luis Miguey Mexico spokesperson

May 24, 2006 8:27 PM  

Blogger Cualli Ocelotl said:


Oh, did I say all Mexicans? No I said the majority...errr... 50 percent plus 1. Next time when you comment come back with something stronger like explaining why I am a fool.

Cualli Ocelotl

May 24, 2006 8:46 PM  

Blogger Cualli Ocelotl said:

I'll give you this 8:27... if the majority of Mexicans vote for Obredor Lopez then my comments are wrong. Unfortunately, Lopez is a crazy communist and might very well run Mexico to the ground.

May 24, 2006 8:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dear Gabachos, ( White patriots and colonized mexicans),

In hating anyone, including mexicans, you hate yourself.

But the fact that you fear identifying yourself proves that you lack the courage of your convictions.

Chicanos called this pendejismo!

Mexicans call it puro pedo!

And you need to learn spanish.

Maybe an "illegal" can teach you.

Poncho Verga

May 24, 2006 11:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

eres pendejote 11:53,

If you could comprehend what some posters are saying you would not respond like an idiot.

I suggest you try to understand the Mexican Presidential Election and follow Obredor Lopez's campaign. You will see how the aristocrats and "civilized" hate him for being the candidate of social reform.

Haber si mi entiendes... lo dudo

May 25, 2006 6:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:53 - With assholes like you as part of this dump they call LA, I can't wait for the day China finally calls in the credit card debt & takes over. You think they'd tolerate 12 million greedy "guests" using their schools and hospitals, think again Pedro. Se habla Mandarin?

May 25, 2006 11:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Exactly previous anon
White man thinks they own America
White man believes Mexico invaded
White man better wake up!
China owns America in debt and real estate

Check your records

in ten years we will speak mandarin
mexicans will labor
white man will be sold for
$fi dolla a head

May 25, 2006 7:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

China invade for the money it is owed... not likely... unless it wants a nuke in its a$$ for repayment. Then there will be no humans on earth. That is probably better judging on how ignorant a few of you motherfuckers are.

Just think about it a world without gabachos, wetbacks, chinks, nips, serrotes, niggers, sandniggers and any other derogoratory name we call each other. Perfect and peaceful.

May 25, 2006 9:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who gives a fuck what any of you Mexicans think? You have no rights and no right to be here!

Fox is just lucky if he gets out of this country in one piece.

LA will get rid of Tony Villar and HIS PEOPLE. We are sick of you!
As soon as the House vetoes the Senate bill, you will all get your walking papers. You can leave the same way you came in..in the back of an 18 wheeler.

Good riddance to bad rubbish!

May 26, 2006 5:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


well, well, well... there so happens to be a job for your a$$.

Apply on-line at: https://cbpmhc.hr-services.org/BPA/

They will be happy to have geniuses like you apply.

May 26, 2006 7:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

China invade for the money it is owed

are you blind? China's population in America is startling! It's called ASSIMILATION AND CONQUER

May 26, 2006 11:06 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Hmm... let's see according to the US Census, Asians make roughly 3.8% US population or 10,589,265 people. The US population is estimated to be 281,421,906... You can verify it here http://www.census.gov/popest/national/asrh/NC-EST2005-srh.html

I can imagine that Chinese make up 2.5% of the US population. Some how your argument is not adding up... They may be holding down Chinatown(s) but that's as far as it goes.

Oh... are you implying that they are soo smart, they are becoming a stronghold in the military and intelligence operation of the US... Bull$h!t.

In the long run China will be the number one economic force but that is because the Chinese have to deal with the US.

May 26, 2006 1:16 PM  

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