Alger has strong words for City Council
March 8, 2006 Van Nuys, CA -Text of comments, as prepared, by Jim Alger, Democratic Candidate for the 38th State Assembly District before the Los Angeles City Council regarding the Sunshine Canyon Landfill.
Mr. Smith, when you ran for office you claimed to be the only candidate with a plan to close Sunshine Canyon. Over 3 years later we have not seen any such plan. Now you claim there is no legal way to close it. Surely if that is the case your nearly 20 years of work as Chief of Staff for your predecessor gave you that knowledge before you made such a statement to the voters of your district.
And you wonder where our cynicism comes from.
Our Mayor, while a candidate and since being elected made a pledge not to renew the contract at Sunshine Canyon in writing, and even threatened a veto should the City Council approve it. Now he stands as one of the chief supporters of extending the contract.
And you wonder where our cynicism comes from.
This community has listened to the lies of politicians for decades. The community has watched BFI get top-level meetings with politicians on all levels of government while community leaders; neighborhood councils and average residents get pushed to the side.
And you wonder where our cynicism comes from.
What is happening here is nothing more than a betrayal of the community trust cleverly wrapped up in a package of smoke and mirrors by a council office that is so blinded by hatred of community leaders that they do not even know – that they don’t realize that communicating with the people can get you everywhere and the old school politics in this city is over.
In my term as a Neighborhood Council president I have often debated individuals including many in this horseshoe on various issues, but I have only had one attack not just of me, but my board members as well. I have listened while the Chief of Staff for CD 12 first wanted me to sign a letter saying Mr. Smith was smarter than me, then tell me the way to get back into Mr. Smiths good graces was not to say anything if I disagreed with him. I tried that, but to continue would violate the oath I took to the people who elected me. If you guys weren’t so busy worrying what license plate is on a car, threatening to sue Neighborhood Councils or taking credit for their accomplishments we wouldn’t be backed against the wall in the 11th hour.
For those councilmembers who may wonder why I hold Mr. Smith accountable despite all of your praise for him, you didn’t attack me, he did. You didn’t eliminate the community from the discussion, he did. And you didn’t promise to close Sunshine Canyon… he did.
Mr. Smith, when you ran for office you claimed to be the only candidate with a plan to close Sunshine Canyon. Over 3 years later we have not seen any such plan. Now you claim there is no legal way to close it. Surely if that is the case your nearly 20 years of work as Chief of Staff for your predecessor gave you that knowledge before you made such a statement to the voters of your district.
And you wonder where our cynicism comes from.
Our Mayor, while a candidate and since being elected made a pledge not to renew the contract at Sunshine Canyon in writing, and even threatened a veto should the City Council approve it. Now he stands as one of the chief supporters of extending the contract.
And you wonder where our cynicism comes from.
This community has listened to the lies of politicians for decades. The community has watched BFI get top-level meetings with politicians on all levels of government while community leaders; neighborhood councils and average residents get pushed to the side.
And you wonder where our cynicism comes from.
What is happening here is nothing more than a betrayal of the community trust cleverly wrapped up in a package of smoke and mirrors by a council office that is so blinded by hatred of community leaders that they do not even know – that they don’t realize that communicating with the people can get you everywhere and the old school politics in this city is over.
In my term as a Neighborhood Council president I have often debated individuals including many in this horseshoe on various issues, but I have only had one attack not just of me, but my board members as well. I have listened while the Chief of Staff for CD 12 first wanted me to sign a letter saying Mr. Smith was smarter than me, then tell me the way to get back into Mr. Smiths good graces was not to say anything if I disagreed with him. I tried that, but to continue would violate the oath I took to the people who elected me. If you guys weren’t so busy worrying what license plate is on a car, threatening to sue Neighborhood Councils or taking credit for their accomplishments we wouldn’t be backed against the wall in the 11th hour.
For those councilmembers who may wonder why I hold Mr. Smith accountable despite all of your praise for him, you didn’t attack me, he did. You didn’t eliminate the community from the discussion, he did. And you didn’t promise to close Sunshine Canyon… he did.
96 Comments:
Anonymous said:
Holy shit, Alger done went and called Smith out cold.
Serves Smith right. After all of his grandstanding he still renewed the contract.
Sounds like Jim finally got sick of Smiths crew on here bashing him, and everyone else they disagree with.
It is good to see SOMEONE sticking up for the community.
Anonymous said:
The news is that the pompous asses in Smith's office have officially cut off communications with the North Valley Coalition.
These guys have some balls.
They basically cut off everyone who ever disagrees with them and then wonder why citizen activists get so pissed they blast them at City Council.
Anonymous said:
This is kind of old news Sammy. Jim went off on Smith Wednesday after he heard about Smith personally calling the North Valley Coalition and telling them basically to buzz off.
This Smith and Alger thing has really escalated since the Sunshine Canyon Vote. Alger said Smith was going to screw the community and that is exactly what he did.
I almost spit my coffee out of my nose when Alger told them, right there at City Council, that Smiths' staff should stop worrying about what license plate was on a car. Those frat boys over there lost their minds over that stupid CD12 license plate. They made such a big deal about it that every staffer in City Hall knew exactly what Alger was talking about.
Keep in mind that this happened immediately after Smith threw a fit and told off the farmers that had just testified. Next thing up was Alger on a remote from Van Nuys giving Smith a smack-down.
You couldn't write comedy this good.
Anonymous said:
So, Bob Aquino is chasing Tony down the street and Jim Alger is confronting Greig Smith in City Council...
How sad that this is what it takes to get our leaders attention.
Maybe these two are on to something?
Anonymous said:
Ya know, the naysayers can attack Jim all day long but you can't deny he knows how to give a speech.
Those remarks were a stinging indictment of the Council Office. I wonder if he will threaten to sue Alger and Company again?
The funny part to me is that it is obvious Alger was holding back. he has many more cannons for Smith.
These idiots at the council office act like a cross between schoolyard bully and crybaby. How many times did Alger offer to sit down with Smith? He even publicly offered here on Mayor Sam.
But Smith and his mob were too damn stupid so now Alger mops the floor with Smith once more for old time sake.
I can tell you this. As a resident of Granada Hills, this Sunshine Canyon mess and Smith's double-cross of us ha got portions of this community ready to boil over. There is a reason Smith won't come here.
Anonymous said:
OK, I'm becoming an Alger fan. Damn, I wish i still lived in Northridge so I could vote for him. Damn you Greig Smith!!!
The funny thing is that Smith actually responds to stuff like this. What an idiot. It shows how insecure he is. If he were effective, he would not have to worry about little ol' Jim Alger. I guess he gets his ego stroked by bullying constituents and constituent groups. My family still lives in the valley so i'll make sure they vote for Alger. Mr. Alger, you've just picked up seven more votes.
Anonymous said:
Another corrupt politican. LA Times..PANEL PAID WESSON'S SON $30,000 STEVE HYMON
This is shameful!!!!! LA politicans are embarrassing us with their unethical arrogant behavior. For years they got away with this type of crap but thanks to reporters who are now going after the stories the public is now being informed. Wesson should be standing right next to Ludlow.
Anonymous said:
2:17 AM Once again you are misinformed and obviously don't know Jim at all. If you work for Smith as you claim, your lack of mastering the English Language certainly would explain allot.
Jim Alger has drives a silver Honda Insight with the plate# "AD 38".
Jim has stated repeatedly that he has no intention of running against Greig Smith. In fact, he has stated repeatedly that he may run for CD 12 when Smith is termed out.
This is important because it demonstrates why Mitch Englander goes after him so much. It is about Mitch Englander running for Greig's job. That is why Mitch moved into the district and has joined the police reserves... which he doesn't miss a chance to introduce himself as Chief of Staff/Reserve Police Officer.
Anonymous said:
If this guy went through the Police Academy, puts on the LAPD Blue, pins on a badge, straps on a gun and goes into the community to protect its citizens, he should introduce himself as a Reserve Police Officer and Mr. Alger and fans should support that volunteer spirit.
Anonymous said:
Englander joined the LAPD reservesso he could use it as a step into a Council run. Do not confuse him with a real police officer.
And for the next moron, you don't serve on his council as they have all endorsed him. If your willing to drop the field down to 8, then why not just state your name???
Anonymous said:
Undoubtedly the CD 12 Staff has woken up this morning. They shall now commence in a bash fest of Alger for the rest of the day.
Little man Englander will throw out all sorts of wild accusations to detract us all from the fact that SMITH EXTENDED THE CONTRACT which is why this all started in the first place.
Anonymous said:
You can always spot those fools. They love to bash people for "not supporting" one thing or another.
Englander who's family has a long history in selling out the community wants us to get behind his "volunteer spirit" while he forgets that all these NC folks he bashes, and the NVC who he ignores are volunteers as well. The difference is they volunteer every day, Englander volunteers once a month as partba plan to get himself elected. Thot not volunteering, that is investing.
Anonymous said:
Let us not forget that it isn't just Alger.
Smith has completely cut out the North Valley coalition, Neighborhood Councils and everyone else who disagrees with him.
That is no way to run a council office.
I am glad Alger finally called them out.
Anonymous said:
Those guys at CD 12 are still so pissed at Julie Korenstein that Englander offered to run Alger's campaign if he agreed to run against her. Alger told them no and ever since then these morons are so afraid of Alger running that they won't shut up about it.
Funny part is Alger said he was running for Assembly 2 years ago and look, that is exactly what he did.
Anonymous said:
Alger is a raging buffoon.
- Not a CD12 Staffer.
Anonymous said:
7:19 am, You may not like Jim, and that is fine but he has served and will continue to serve us well as President of our Neighborhood Council. You ARE NOT a member of this board, I can state that as a FACT. If you want to disagree with Jim, fine. But do NOT use the name of this council to do it.
As for the comment regarding the renter/homeowner issue. Two board members are dealing with that in an ad-hoc committee. Only one has a computer.
That means that once again, it probably came from the council office through third-hand inaccurate information. Given the all hail LAPD routine, I am pretty sure who.
Still typing with two fingers as you used to before you were thrown off the force?
Anonymous said:
Jim Alger has been the only person who has stood up for the community. That pisses off the CM.
It seems pretty obvious that Smith is out of control. Attacking Neighborhood Councils, failing to communicate with the community... hell he even yelled at the Mexican Farmers right in City Council the other day.
Smith clearly does not have both oars in the water.
Anonymous said:
According to the NORTH VALLEY COALITION, Greig Smith has cut off all communication with them.
Now say what you want about Alger but we need to look at the facts.
Greig said he had a plan to close Sunshine Canyon when he ran for office, never turned in any plan.
Alger warned everyone last year after Englander called him to lobby for the extension that Smith's office wasn't serious.
Then Waste Management pulled out of the bidding saying the City wasn't negotiating in good faith.
Then Smith screams for "alternatives" but anyone who watched City Council could see he was steering it all back to BFI.
Then Smith SPONSORS THE MOTION that extended the contract JUST LIKE ALGER SAID HE WOULD DO A YEAR AGO!
Sorry Smith Staffers, Alger called your lying asses out on this one, again. No amount of trying to change the subject will beat that one fact.
He has a right to be pissed. You repeatedly lied and then attacked him. What did you idiots expect?
Anonymous said:
Staffers must be in transit... let's give them some time to arrive at work. Then they can begin changing the subject and bashing Jim again...
...all the while insisting they don't care about him.
Anonymous said:
SUNSHINE CANYONE WILL NOT BE CLOSED ANYTIME SOON...THERE IS NO FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVE AT THE TIME.
Smith's plan to close Sunshine was RENEW/LA. its a great idea, but it didn't pass in the CA Assembly (Not Smith's fault).
And since our trash needs to go somewhere...why would we spend MORE money and make more pollution to ship it further (while also sending it to Sunshine)? It MAKES NO SENSE to split the trash...especially since one of the two alternatives (the closest one) already said "NO" when it came to LA shipping trash over there.
Alger has no chance for the Assembly seat, it is SAFELY REPUBLICAN (as www.aroundthecapitol.com reports). And interesting enough...Alger hasn't posted his cash on hand...makes me wonder how little $ he actually has.
Anonymous said:
RENEW LA is a CITY BASED plan NOT a State based plan and it did pass City Council so please get your facts straight.
In the changing the subject section, Alger's 460 is posted on his website, the Secretary of State doesn't post manual filings only electronic.
So either keep wondering, or visit his website if you rally care that much.
Anonymous said:
The issue here isn't whether or not Sunshine is closed, it is the betrayal of the community by a man who was Chief of Staff for nearly 20 years before he pledged to close Sunshine. The allegation is that Smith knew damn well he couldn't or wouldn't do it when he sold Granada Hills that bridge.
Given Smith's track record with the truth, honesty or integrity I tend to agree.
Anonymous said:
8:18:
You really are a moron. RENEW/LA and the conversion technologies were brought to the CA State Assembly last year by the City of LA. It failed in committee.
And I did visit his website...where i couldn't find where he posted his $.
Anonymous said:
Oh wait..I found it...tiny link in the bottom right hand section of the page. Wow...very prominent...LOL
Anonymous said:
When you hire a BFI lobbyist for your Chief of Staff what on earth do you expect?
What Alger has pointed out is deeper. If Smith never wanted to truly get us out of Sunshine, as appears to be the case, then mow many tax dollars were wasted chasing that pipe dream?
How many cops could have been put on the street with that money? Smith loves to talk about cops all the time, but what good are safe streets when it is the air that is going to kill you?
Protecting the community is deeper than just cops. Smith has proven to be ineffective on both fronts.
Remember, he promised more cops... Devonshire Division is among the lowest in officer deployment. Chalk another lie up to Smith.
Anonymous said:
NOTHING in RENEW LA closes Sunshine Canyon, it merely "scales down" LA's trash.
The 460 is under "financial filings" located at the bottom of the page. Be sure to use the information to bash him again, I believe he is showing 5k or there abouts.
Anonymous said:
8:28 hey it is there right? How many candidates do you know post this tuff on their website? Oh wait, he is the only Democrat who even HAS a website.
I give him props for putting it out there.
Anonymous said:
And Jim..great way to block out your address on the 460. Its not like ITS STILL EASY TO READ.
Oh..and it looks like you only have 5 grand cash on hand. Great #'s there partner!
Anonymous said:
8:34. The numbers are public for anyone who wishes to access them. And your right...the other Democrtic nominee in the 38th w/ less than 2k really matters!
Anonymous said:
Alger is clearly using this race to spotlight issues he cares about. What will be interesting is to see what he does in June after he wins the Primary.
Will money flow in so that a real challenge can be made or what?
As for now, he seems to be content campaigning in the Assembly District, and occasionally beating the crap out of the Smith Morons for sport.
Anonymous said:
I think that beating up Smith is for his personal amusement, although it usually ends up being for the amusement of all of us.
Smith does make it easy though, he lives in this bubble and doesn't let anyone near him that may disagree. And what is with not communicating with entire blocks of constituents?
How arrogant do you need to be to tell people that your staff won't deal with them anymore?
Anonymous said:
Hi. Umm... does anyone realize that the contract has NOTHING TO DO with whether the landfill will close down?
In fact, the less the City sends there, the longer it will stay open!
Anonymous said:
I think that beating up Smith is for his personal amusement, although it usually ends up being for the amusement of all of us.
Smith does make it easy though, he lives in this bubble and doesn't let anyone near him that may disagree. And what is with not communicating with entire blocks of constituents?
How arrogant do you need to be to tell people that your staff won't deal with them anymore?
Anonymous said:
9:06, not entirely true although I see your point.
One school of thought is that if BFI lost the largest contract they have, Sunshine would become insolvent and be forced to close.
However the larger issue is that Smith lied to his community about closing Sunshine, and now the community is fitting him with a noose.
It would be all good is Smith had said there was nothing that could be done about Sunshine, he didn't. He promised to close it and guided the community through a maze of hearings and meetings only to screw them over in the end all the while bashing other City Council members, Mayors, State Legislators, and City departments.
This is a well deserved lynching.
Anonymous said:
As someone who knows Jim, there are a few funny yet ironic parts to all this I'd like to share.
- Jim could have never lambasted Greig from Van Nuys if Greig hadn't been so instrumental in putting the remote facility in in the first place.
- Here is the funny part, Jim was running late. If Greig hadn't stood up at the end of public comment to yell at the Mexican Farmers, Jim wouldn't have made it.
So Greig losing his mind and responding to someone in public comment, which he isn't supposed to do, actually allowed Jim the time to get off the elevator and in the room. It stopped Greig from responding to Alger as well since he couldn't get away with that twice.
Now none of this would have ever happened at all if Smith would have just sat down with the community.
Way to go Greig.
Anonymous said:
You can tell Smith told his staff to get on that blog and trash Alger. I'm sure the people in CD14 wish they had an Alger to question and hold their council member accountable. Because he cares about issues ignornant people post personal attacks. I said it a million times politicans hate it when community members show them up and bring the limelight on them FOR NOT DOING THEIR JOB. WE owe a debt of gratitude to Jim and the other NC's that organized and stopped the DWP hike two years ago.
Anonymous said:
I agree. I am sure Smith would support a plan to lobby Alger to move to CD 14.
Anonymous said:
OK You CAN'T MAKE THIS UP...
The City Attorney just ordered the City Council to pay attention at Council.
Apparently the Agenda Item was deserving of special attention.
Garcetti then waited for all the City Council to sit down.
Now why can't we get that on EVERY public comment???
Anonymous said:
Jim Alger saved us $6.40 per month on our DWP but wants us to pay $2 a month to stop the dumping at Sunshine Canyon and commented in support of Green Energy which will cost us $3.50 per month. If Alger has is way my net savings will be 90 cents per month.
Thanks Mr. Alger.
Anonymous said:
By your own numbers your still ahead thanks to Jim Alger.
Also, while you keep saying it it simply isn't true. Jim has NEVER supported increased rates for Green Energy so your up a few more bucks.
Also your comparing apples to oranges. Peoples' water bills vary greatly and the total he has saved you is now over 24% as Algers actions have prevented the subsequent 6% hike from taking place prior to an audit and notification to neighborhood councils.
So the amount of money Alger has saved you continues to rise.
Anonymous said:
Smith just rose in City Council and you guys are right, all he wants is to use BFI. There is talk about diverting some of the cities trash, but he is not even discussing options to do anything other than reducing a few trucks per day.
Several options were presented to go somewhere else and Smith is clearly pushing for Sunshine.
Anonymous said:
The Clintons sure have a way of training nationwide democrats.
L.A. is in shambles and Clintons hide information.
"Clinton Quiet About Past Wal-Mart Ties"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060310/ap_on_el_se/hillary_clinton_wal_mart
"Bill Clinton helped Dubai on ports deal"
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11628283/
Anonymous said:
Cardenes is doing a better job than Smith. He understands this is about the people of LA.
Anonymous said:
The Shallowness of Clinton
http://brain-terminal.com/posts/2002/03/27/the-shallowness-of-clinton
Anonymous said:
Jack Weiss is a moron... he is relating costs to cops... typical scare tactics as usual.
Hey Jack... You put a plan to hire cops and we'll talk until then SHUT UP!
Anonymous said:
Why can't puppet Jose Huizar do this in his own district? Cause Antonio is a big supporter of illegal vendors.
Daily News...Unlicensed food vendors targeted
Inspection program could be expanded...A program aimed at halting unlicensed lunch trucks and push carts from selling poorly stored and ill-prepared food at street corners and parks may be expanded if city officials pass a motion introduced today.
More than 100 citations were issued to food vendors and almost two dozen illegal push carts were confiscated during a nine-day sweep through the Northeast Valley last summer. Los Angeles City Councilman Tony Cardenas said the pilot project he organized for his district worked so well, he wants to see it operate permanently.
Anonymous said:
Rosendahl is askincg some excellent questions and just revealed Avanol is CHEAPER than Sunshine, and the community WANTS to accept LA's trash.
Anonymous said:
Avanol just revealed that they could accpt trash by rail...
Looks like a pretty good option to me.
Anonymous said:
Hahn just called out Weiss on his dumb ass cop move.
Anonymous said:
Bernson, Smith, and Alger all use Sunshine Canyon as an issue to gain political support. Bernson really did nothing to solve the problem.
Smith is up to the plate and swinging. We will see!
Alger is on deck but is heckling the current batter.
Anonymous said:
11:02 That is a funny visual.
Clearly Alger is using Sunshine to leverage support but in this case the issue here isn't whether or not Sunshine is closed, it is the betrayal of the community by a man who was Chief of Staff for nearly 20 years before he pledged to close Sunshine.
Where Alger will seriously step in the mud will be if he makes the same pledge. So far he hasn't although he has floated the term "goal of closing". I would advise him against that and when he releases his plan he should just stick to the facts. That has worked for Jim so far.
Jim Alger is navigating some pretty choppy waters with a precision that I haven't seen in politicians with twice the experience as he, and building support every step of the way.
He is careful about what he says, while making it appear that he isn't. He launches precision attacks while always leaving a way out (just in Smith's case he is to dumb to take it). He picks his battles after much thought and consideration, like a good chess player thinking 5 moves ahead.
It causes people to underestimate him and while I don't believe he will win his current race, I think he is learning allot very rapidly, I think that is why he ran in the first place... to learn how to run, and I have no doubts he will hold higher office. It is what he does when he gets there that we need to watch. As long as he doesn't become the very thing he abhors he will be fine.
Anonymous said:
So he will heckle those who take a stance but fail. Will only take a stance that will not hurt him politically. Is careful not to say anything that can be used against him.
What you see as political virtues, I see as moral failures.
Do we really need someone who runs away from accountability. Have we not learned anything from the likes of Ludlow?
Anonymous said:
At June 19, 2005 11:06 AM, Anonymous said...
Maybe Ludlow can resign, be jobless for a year, file for bankruptcy again - then start his $140,000 a year job with the County Fed next year.
The lobbying question can be handled very easily - there are dozens of hungry lobbying firms out there. The County Fed can afford anyone of these. Watch Victor Griego's firm, DSO, be the first in line - that is if Skelton doesn't beat him to it. But Martin did begin his political activism in California working for a Griego project - you know, the one where they registered hundreds of voters at local cemeteries.
Can this be the first chink in Tony's ethic's armor?
Anonymous said:
11:16
Beautfully stated.
This is the reason if Alger doesn't win the assembly race, he has a good shot at City Council.
Again he's giving himself some ground if he loses the Assembly race and Smith goes up for Re-election he would have a good chance at it.
Anonymous said:
This is really pathetic. It is sad that the Dems in this district are wasting so much time on this race. There is no way a Dem can win it. Get out and register democrats, that is great. But why do you guys waste so much time writing all this crap? I met with Alger, and I thought the poor little guy was retarded.
Anonymous said:
12:34 - Take a stand that will not hurt him? DID YOU READ why he didn't get the COPE endorsement? Because he opposed the DWP Hike and the IBEW Contract.
He takes stands that DO hurt him because he stands for what is right.
A good argument can be made that this mess with Smith hurts him as Smith has his loyal supporters in the District, they will not vote for Alger but he stood up for all of us anyway.
And he isn't heckling someone who took a stance and failed, he is calling out someone who lied to get elected.
Anonymous said:
Little guy? Alger stands 5'10. You must be thinking of Englander.
Anonymous said:
ok. 5'10" guy that seemed retarded.
Anonymous said:
I always love when someone goes out of their way to take the time and post how posting is a waste of time.
Or when they post that they don't care about this or that... of course if that were true they wouldn't click on the thread that has Algers picture plastered on it.
Obviously City Council has concluded for the day so staffers can hop on there computers and serve the people by bashing Alger.
Dum Dums
Anonymous said:
No, actually. You are wrong. I read the Mayor Sam blog and ejoy it. But these damn Alger blogs keep getting in the way, so I figured I would check it out once and see why on earth people would spend so much time and energy on a blog and race when they have no chance in hell.
Anonymous said:
Alger= Poor little guy that seemed retarded. Not nice but very funny.
Thanks for the laugh.
Anonymous said:
1:23 Because it isn't really about AD38 It is about the policies of CD12 and the ongoing struggle of the local community to be heard.
Alger is like the little engine that could and many of us respect that. (It doesn't hurt that Smith is an arrogant SOB and his staff are a bunch of lunatics)
Anonymous said:
Very well said.
Anonymous said:
Alger is Casey, the little Engine that could.
Casey is found at Disneyland.
Disneyland is fun for a day but usually costs a lot of money.
Alger is fun to watch but like Disneyland, he will end up costing us all in the end.
$31 Million increased trash charges.
$54 Million for Green Power.
$ Expensive raises for the EAA. Cost unknown but in the millions.
Yep Alger is the little engine that could cost us a lot of money.
Vote no on Alger for the 38th Assembly District.
Anonymous said:
Jim Alger is the little engine that could cost us a lot of money.
Choo Choo, All aboard the Alger spending train.....
Anonymous said:
Mr Johnson, your proveably false statement has just exposed you to a potential libel and slander suit.
Anonymous said:
2 things.
1- Alger is NOT running against Smith, that is merely spin by Englander to justify his paranoia.
2 - And I don't know how many times this has to be said... ALGER HAS NEVER SUPPORTED INCREASES FOR GREEN ENERGY.
You keep saying it, and it still isn't true.
Anonymous said:
5:25 Anon - Your "little engine that could" analogy had us rolling. Seriously, you get points for originality. Jim honestly got a good laugh out of it.
While your criticism is legitimate, your numbers are off.
Jim has stated that he supports increased trash fees as a way to assist paying to stop dumping in Granada Hills. Right now, we do not pay for our trash. That comes out of the General Fund, money that could go to other services such as Police, Fire, road repair ect. Considering the city hit us with a $10.00 surcharge to pay for our trash cans, Jim feels 2 bucks more to stop contributing to the problem in Granada Hills is a small price to pay.
Keep in mind that with the reduction of 3,600 Tons of trash per day, and the trucks that carry it not driving to the dump, the net benefit could be cost neutral if you factor in lower health effects.
That is the only increase that Jim Alger supports at this time, period.
Several factors come into the EAA situation but Jim does not support increased fees to accommodate increased wages, but also doesn't believe that they would be necessary.
To explain this would require a chart and lots of math, but bottom line is that Jim doesn't support any other increases.
Anonymous said:
7:08 Anon - what details would you like? He didn't fill out a form right 10 years ago. That is all you have on him and he disclosed this when he didn't have to.
Can't take the issues so your back into the old broken record.
However, Mr Johnson made a provably false statement. not an opinion, a factually incorrect statement of fact.
Anonymous said:
a court, after reviewing the facts set aside the conviction and entered a finding of not guilty.
There are the facts.
Nice job changing the subject.
Anonymous said:
According to the NORTH VALLEY COALITION, Greig Smith has cut off all communication with them.
Now say what you want about Alger but we need to look at the facts.
Greig said he had a plan to close Sunshine Canyon when he ran for office, never turned in any plan.
Alger warned everyone last year after Englander called him to lobby for the extension that Smith's office wasn't serious.
Then Waste Management pulled out of the bidding saying the City wasn't negotiating in good faith.
Then Smith screams for "alternatives" but anyone who watched City Council could see he was steering it all back to BFI.
Then Smith SPONSORS THE MOTION that extended the contract JUST LIKE ALGER SAID HE WOULD DO A YEAR AGO!
Sorry Smith Staffers, Alger called your lying asses out on this one, again. No amount of trying to change the subject will beat that one fact.
He has a right to be pissed. You repeatedly lied and then attacked him. What did you idiots expect?
Anonymous said:
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Anonymous said:
I would like to know what he was arrested for. Not guilty does not mean Mr. Alger was innocent of the charges.
Details please! What was the the actual charge(s) he was convicted of Perjury, False Statements, what?
Anonymous said:
Great give me the info on both Alger's & Hilfenhaus's. We ought to know the whole story for both candidates. Or the arrest record for all the candidates if you know them would be nice.
Don't tell me the Republican candidates are the only ones that do not have arrest records.
What is going on in the Democratic Party? Ludlow, Arellano, and now Alger and Hilfenhaus, do they all have arrest records?
Anonymous said:
Nope, The republican has a few DUI's
Anonymous said:
Look, of you dig into anyones past enough you will find dirt.
Jim Alger is absolutely the only candidate in the 38th district who is talking about issues, and acting on his words.
No-one cares about forms, or other crap from years ago but we do care about clean air, clean money traffic and a litany of other issues.
Jim is discussing those issues with the community. His Democratic opponent is trying to be the anointed queen but not being too successful. While she gets endorsed by the party elders, Jim is getting all the grassroots support. Exhibit a was his successful blocking and damn near getting the Young Democrats endorsement.
Exhibit b was his getting the Valley Grassroots endorsement.
Remember, Lyn supporters thought she was going to get them all, as they hear Jim they come around to him.
The big difference between the candidates is that Jim's supporters BELIEVE in him, Lyn's supporters owe her.
Anonymous said:
So, According to Lyn she has remained neutral on the Alex and Cindy race. Did anyone catch the car full of Padilla lawn signs?
She also lists Alex as an endorsement of hers.
If she is so pro-women why is she endorsing Alex? and why is she afraid to just come out and say she endorses him publicly?
The least they could do is not show up to a Democratic event with a car stacked with Padilla signs, obviously heading over to his "campaign kickoff" later today.
Anonymous said:
With all the stuff going on with Ludlow and blogger allegations that it is only the tip of iceberg, candidates should come clean regarding their past.
If Alger knowingly made false statements or perjured himself we should know.
If Hilfinhaus sold drugs near a school, we should know.
If one of the Republican Candidates has a problem with alcohol, we should know.
If Alger believes in "Transparency," lets see it. He raised transparency as an issue.
Anonymous said:
Oh shut up.
He, unlike any other candidate, released the information so SHUT UP
Anonymous said:
He is dishonest. Cops do not go after folks for making innocent errors on a DMV form. There is more to this story but we will only know if Alger comes clean.
If it was nothing he would release all the details.
Mr. Transparency is not so transparent.
Anonymous said:
Fine. Alger is a liar, a cheat a villain... maybe he really shot JR too. WE SERIOUSLY DON'T CARE ABOUT A STUPID ASS DMV FORM. And quit saying "cops don't just do xyz"
We have all seen cops do some pretty stupid things. They are human and humans make mistakes. The courts corrected this one.
No matter how many ways you spin it, he missed a check box.
Did it ever occur to you that the reason the case was dismissed "in the interest of justice" was because it was a stupid case in the first place?
No, you don't care because your goal is to shift focus off of anything good Alger is doing now to what you perceive he may have done over a decade ago when he was in his early 20's.
That is an old political ploy.
I notice you don't ask for, or hound for, anyone else's record including a drug arrest of which that conviction still stands to this day.
That alone makes your intentions plain.
Anonymous said:
Ya know, I just dug up a quote from Alger back in a January email to Smiths office that MayorSam posted. For Smith to have not done anything about this when he was clearly warned was his own stupidity...
"I seriously hope Greig will change his course in the near future. The current path is not one that will work in his best interests."
Yikes did that ever pan out to be true.
Anonymous said:
Oh you need to leave that "Alger is a crimminal" idiot alone.
He is as bad as the "80 neighborhood Watches" guy of the Mayoral campaign.
Anonymous said:
I agree with the above poster. Standard diversion tactic. If you don't like the subject, change it.
What I would like to see is a realistic plan to get us out of landfills.
People may love Alger or hate him, but he is the only candidate even talking about the issue, and not slinging mud. That is why he has earned my vote.
Anonymous said:
The Shaw-Hilfenhaus folks have no issues so they have no other tactic left but to attack.
We are smarter than that Lynn.
Anonymous said:
The only person avoiding the truth is Mr. Alger.
COPS do not go after people who mistakenly check the wrong box.
Alger is the only one spinning.
Mr. Alger the truth will set you free.
Perhaps the Dems can put up a candidate who has never been arrested. Someone who even in their early twenties knew right from wrong.
Anonymous said:
The truth did set him free. The case was dismissed.
Anonymous said:
According to this moron "Not Guilty" or "dismissed" doesn't mean anything. Cops never make mistakes, and never "go after" anyone. That is a farce.
It also has nothing to do with Sunshine Canyon and his goal is to make sure the last words on this thread are a mud-sling at a guy who has done nothing but put himself forward to represent the people of his district.
A sorry act of desperation from a sad individual.
Anonymous said:
Jim Alger is a truth seeker!
Thanks Jim!
You will be a breath of fresh air in the Assembly!
from your fans in Sunland-Tujunga!
You know who we are!
Anonymous said:
I guess that means Mr. Transparency "Alger", really means transparency for others but not for himself.
No COPS do not just go after folks who make an innocent error on a DMV form. It just does not happen.
Most of you bloggers must have a least one COP friend, ask!
Anonymous said:
Yada Yada Yada... you keep singing that tune but we aren't listening.
I know it must really piss you off that we don't care about some stupid form not filled out right over a decade ago.
Jim got in some cops face and pissed him off until he went after him for some bs charge that was later dismissed. All of us can easily imagine Jim pissing someone off in a position of power who than used whatever power they had to try and hurt him. Ya know, kind of like Smith threatening to sue him or little Mitchell Englander, in his capacity as "reserve" police officer and Chief of Staff for Councilman Smith threatening to "destroy" him. I suppose that never happens either huh?
We care about clean air, open transit and better schools. We care about a Council Office going to war with citizen activists.
Silly us for caring about ISSUES that matter to us and our family.
Anonymous said:
The DVM does not have a policy of prosecuting for felony fraud for failure to check the wrong box there must be an accompanying intent to commit fraud to be prosecuted. Alger come clean.
Anonymous said:
SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH YOUR BULLSHIT!!'
WE DON'T CARE. Jim was NEVER prosecuted by the DMV so SHUT UP with this crap already!!!
Anonymous said:
Mr. Alger would not be the first politician to down play an incident he had with the police.
Look and the recent school board race. Mr. Arellano down played his arrests history and got called on it.
Don't voters have a right to know if they support Alger what it is about.
Looks like someone else checked with the DMV and they don't take the time to prosecute this stuff.
Headline: ALGER SUPPORTERS CLAIM ROUGE COP ARRESTED ALGER.
That is a story we all have a right to know about. Did Alger tell the Daily News that story?
Until he comes clean, it is just spin.
Anonymous said:
No. It isn't spin. It is you, under cover of "anonymous" attempting to take an issue and make as big a deal about it as possible. If you believed so strongly in your position, you would come out of hiding.
The school board race involved a candidate who failed to disclose that he was arrested, did not serve his full probation and has a current warrant for his arrest.
In addition, the school board candidate lied about 2 degrees.
There is no comparison between that and a missed check-box 10 years ago.
Jim has released the information on this and made it public. That is how you even know about it.
On the other hand the Hilfenhaus camp hasn't even bothered to discuss their ties to the penal system and of course, you aren't inquiring of that.
No matter how much spin, it was still a form and it was still 10 years ago and the case was still dismissed in the interest of justice.
All the gory details is nothing more than an attempt to keep a story alive that he didn't have released in the first place.
Of course the overall intent of your repeated mantra is to divert attention away from the issue at hand, Sunshine Canyon and the promises that are broken to the community.
Jim Alger is the only candidate in the 38th who has even bothered to discuss this and other issues. That is why he is the front runner and that is why he will win the primary with or without the anonymous attacks from the 2 and a half supporters that comprise team Hilfenhaus.
Oh wait, I forgot. She is running under an alias.
Anonymous said:
According to the NORTH VALLEY COALITION, Greig Smith has cut off all communication with them.
Now say what you want about Alger but we need to look at the facts.
Greig said he had a plan to close Sunshine Canyon when he ran for office, never turned in any plan.
Alger warned everyone last year after Englander called him to lobby for the extension that Smith's office wasn't serious.
Then Waste Management pulled out of the bidding saying the City wasn't negotiating in good faith.
Then Smith screams for "alternatives" but anyone who watched City Council could see he was steering it all back to BFI.
Then Smith SPONSORS THE MOTION that extended the contract JUST LIKE ALGER SAID HE WOULD DO A YEAR AGO!
Sorry Smith Staffers, Alger called your lying asses out on this one, again. No amount of trying to change the subject will beat that one fact.
He has a right to be pissed. You repeatedly lied and then attacked him. What did you idiots expect?
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