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Wednesday, December 14, 2005

Irony and the ACLU

Dgarzila over at Downtown Central East Blogger has a great cartoon I would like to share with all of you.


(click image to enlarge)

Noted.

15 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Welcome to civil liberties, the Villaraigosa way. "If it makes me look, then it isn't really civil liberties, just malcontents that will never be pleased."

Hypocrisy, hypcrisy, hypocrisy. Selective struggle is the new catch phrase at city hall.

December 14, 2005 8:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Welcome to civil liberties, the Villaraigosa way. "If it makes me look BAD, then it isn't really civil liberties, just malcontents that will never be pleased."

Hypocrisy, hypcrisy, hypocrisy. Selective struggle is the new catch phrase at city hall.

- sorry, missed the most important word.

December 14, 2005 8:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes Archie and they had to wait 3 hours to speak at council. In today's LA Times a story on how Santa Monica is resolving homeless issue. Trying to find their families, mental health provider and gee too logical but maybe spreading the resources throughout the city not just downtown.

Today Ramona Ripston of ACLU is going to be confirmed. The homeless agency will have 3 ACLU members on the board. These are the people who created the mess in skid row because they were part of the problem not the solution.

December 14, 2005 9:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:03 - Fu*k Santa Monica! They've led the nation in anti-homeless ordinances, including no sleeping on benches and in parks, not to mention that an individual cannot hand out food to the homeless.

Wrong example!

They've been so harsh that the homeless there have migrated into Venice for support and services.

December 14, 2005 11:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dgarzila,

You finally hit the nail on the right button.

December 14, 2005 3:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Man, talk about the parade of idiocy both in the original post and in the comments.
Original post - Somehow, it is the ACLU's responsibility to fight every single battle in the world? They are an organization that protects civil liberties and does a damn good job at it. If you want to fight around the lincoln place evictions (a good cause!), then do it! Form a tenants' right organization. Don't sit on a blog comment board and criticize others for not doing it.

8:23 - For good or bad, we live in a capitalist system. What exactly would you propose the Mayor at Lincoln Place? How, specifically, is he being hypocritical.

8:46 - Look, Archie contributes one sentence and it manages to include a racial identifier (as usual - because somehow in his mind, AV's race is his defining characteristic, over and over again) and is supremely unsubstantive.

9:03 - You're arguing that the ACLU created the homeless problem? That makes a lot of sense.

December 14, 2005 4:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:02

So, to be succinct... MAV can do no wrong, right? The ACLU is beyond reproach, correct?

How much do they pay the bloggers to try and keep the myth of Villaraigosa's efficacy alive, these days?

December 14, 2005 4:23 PM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

I have sat on a redevelpment project arwa committee and was able to put 1500 units of sro type houisng in the plan , I was at every zoning hearing about the midnight mission to support it, when it was moving and expanding. I am a founder of the downtown los angeles neighborhood counncil and was instrumental in placing the social service providers and a homeless seat (actual homeless person) in our bylaws on our governng board.

Today I went to City Hall and said my piece .

My argument is that if you are going to sue for people to live on the streets , follow through and find solutions to get them off of the streets.

I also stated that my ambivalence and my strong feelings for her to be on LAHSA and my strong feelings against the fact the ACLU doesn't follow through after a lawsuit and nothing changes.
Ramona was awesome today in the midst of the controversy today of her appointment.

I said my piece today and now

December 14, 2005 4:31 PM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

I can sleep

December 14, 2005 4:33 PM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

I think Cardenas brought up the issue of balance on the commission today.

NO no social service providers are on the commission appointed by the City of Los Angeles. I would love for some of our advocates such as Los Angeles Coalition to End HUnger and HOmelessnessor their offshoots to balance these appointments out , but they are missing.

It is going to now be a showdown between the City Of LA with ACLU heavy hitters as their appointees VS the appointees of the county.


You bet the city will now be able to watch and make sure the County does thier fair share with the new ab 63 funding for mental illness.

You should have heard Ramona when answering the council , she wants to be on the LAHSA comission. ANd I have the strangest feeling, now that she has been confirmed, she may well be able to be creative in following through after her lawsuits.

But I got what I wanted today; more than just three no votes , she got 5 no votes.

so I am content .

December 14, 2005 4:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How much plastic surgery has Ramona had. She's looks like a freak. Good for the 5 who had the guts to not listen to Antonio. Dgarzila you were great at council and made some great points. I want to know what the hell the ACLU did with the lawsuit money they won for suing the city for the homeless issue? Did they do anything with the money to help the homeless? NO NO NO. ACLU protects gang members instead of hard working families and in my book are the problem. Cardenas put Ramona on the spot and she couldn't answer but he still voted YES. God help this city with all these loser appointments Antonio is making.

December 14, 2005 6:38 PM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

I almost lost my train of thought when Ramona Ripston rolled her eyes when I mentioned my upbringing in deep east texas in creating my learned personal bias against the ACLU and how I needed to make sure my opposition to her being appointed wasn't based on that bias. ANd of course it wasn't

All in all , Cardenas trapped her big time . I felt she got worried she wasn't going to be appointed. I almost thought she was going to cry there for a second. But she took it.

This woman is 75 yrs old. She has insitutional history and I would like to see her , if she wants to make things right , set the standard to do so.


To be honest, if I went home to East Texas , I would be run out , I have become a bit of the dirty word: " liberal" , i wouldn't fit in.

December 14, 2005 7:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Caught it on the late replay, DG. . . man-in-black, Johnny Cash impersonation and all. You done good!

Too bad Hollywood didn't see you in time, or Joaquin Phoenix would have been out of work.

Only two people showed up from the public, though. . . so L.A. deserves what it gets in Ms. Ripston.

December 15, 2005 3:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:38 p.m.

I was gonna say Ramona is a piece of work, but from the looks of it she's about six-dozen pieces of work, and more coming. She and Michael Jackson are keeping the cosmetic surgery industry alive, just them two.


Her fallback/disclaimer was pitiful -- "I'm just the director of the ACLU, not the board... Their positions are not necessarily mine. . . I'm an individual."

RIGHT, RR, AV put you in there because you're an "individual" -- it had NOTHING to do with the ACLU.

RIGHT!

December 15, 2005 3:45 AM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

I hope the accent didn't come through. Tough to hide when you are serious about things. I can't change the way I was raised. Or my accetn I have tried over the years though.

JOhnny Cash impersonation? I only wish I could sing , might have lots of money myself.

Thanks.

I think I done real good.

December 15, 2005 7:57 AM  

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