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Sunday, March 06, 2005

Hertzberg for Mayor

BobNo doubt many of you reading this are reacting "Well that's a shock." No doubt, I don't care.

Before I go into why I am officially supporting Bob Hertzberg, let me take a moment to dispel many notions spread by what I assume are mostly pro-Hahn readers of the Sister City.

  1. Unlike the LA Times, we never purport to be objective. This is my blog for Christ sakes and I'll say what I God damn please. You too have the same right and I let you do so.
  2. I do not nor have I ever worked for Bob Hertzberg.
  3. The Sister City has never been paid by Bob Hertzberg or any other candidate. We do have Google ads for Bob Hertzberg as well as Antonio Villaraigosa and many other advertisers. If you know anything about how Google ads work, we only get paid when a person clicks on an ad they want to see. If you clicked on one of Antonio's or Bob's ads, we probably got a few pennies. In all, since we went on the web back in October of 2004, we've earned maybe $40 total in Google ads. Hardly enough to buy any influence and again its likely most of that revenue came from advertisers other than Hertzberg.
  4. Many other blogs however - including some that have called us pro-this or anti-that actually did receive paid blog ads for Bob Hertzberg. We never did. And even if we had, it wouldn't have made any difference. The only paid blog ad we've ever sold is for West LA Online. Between that, the Google revenue, and some crap we've sold through Cafe Press, the Sister City has maybe generated $100 total revenue, none of which has actually been paid to me yet.
  5. If you don't like any of this, you can play on the God damn freeway you tinhorn bastards.

Now, lets get to why I am voting for Bob Hertzberg. For 16 years, we had a visionary, larger than life leader in Tom Bradley. Prior to that, we had a crusty, colorful mayor (me) who made regular appearances on the Tonight Show. Since Tom left, its been pretty dull around Spring Street.

Bob Hertzberg brings an energy, a flair, even a sense of goofiness that could energize LA politics unlike anything we've seen in some time. In the Arnold era, we find that a dynamic personality who connects with the people can get things done. Bob shakes up the establishment (while still comfortably being able to maneveur within it) in a way that could get many who have not been involved - including young people - interested in civic affairs. This could really push LA forward in a positive way.

Bob is experienced, but he's not a career pol. He's had a hand in business, has met a payroll and though he lives comfortably, he understands the common man. He's comfortable with the average man on the street and engages everyone with interest.

He has ideas - yes many are wacky - but he is contstantly creative and seeking solutions to problems. He isn't afraid to buck the status quo and won't take no for an answer.

With a corrupt city government, failing city services, a horrible public education system, jobs leaving LA in droves and politicians who just don't care, Bob Hertzberg is a refreshing change. Yes, he is more liberal than I like and yes he isn't stepping up on some issues quite yet like illegal immigration. Nonetheless, Bob brings something we just haven't seen in LA in a long time.

ParksParksFinally, though I am giving my nod to Bob Hertzberg, I'd like to give honorable mentions to Bernard Parks and Richard Alarcon. Neither will have any chance of making it into the runoff, but both would also be excellent mayors for various reasons. Alarcon may be way too liberal for me, but he's a decent man who works hard for the city and has great passion. Parks rocky relations with the LAPD likely disqualifies him from leading the City, but he has served his District well as Councilman. He isn't afraid to try new things and depart from the political orthodoxy, which I like.

We'll focus on Antonio after the election results are known.


Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

Kiss those AV google ads goodbye (after Tuesday, in any case)!

March 06, 2005 8:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey, don't laugh at those ads -- Mayor Sam. $40 bucks will buy you a couple yards of re-dedicated park space in ADV's CD14.

March 06, 2005 8:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm with you MS. "Crazy" ideas are better than stolen ones you never intend to implement (ADV). In the grand "brainstorming" session that is the political primary, there are no bad ideas if they get people thinking about how things do need to change. It's time to look for new ways to move the city forward, and that doesn't mean going back to re-run 2001 and pick from the same worn out batch of candidates. We can do better.

March 06, 2005 8:39 PM  

Blogger Anon-in-the-know said:

Can't blame the pro-Hahn people for all the nasty claims against this blog. ADV's people have been among the most vocal (when not bashing Hahn), unhappy that some "newbie" to local politics would actually have the nerve to challenge their champion, and take the momentum away from him when it's "his turn." Unfortunately, voters seldom buy into that "my turn" scenario in big elections, especially if there's another choice that's making some headway. Ask Nixon (in '60), Ford (in '76), Dole, Gore, and Kerry, on the national scene - and even closer to home, Soboroff in 2001. It does occasionally work (Gray Davis for Gov.), but that didn't actually work out that well.

March 06, 2005 9:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NOt my cup of tea , this hertzberg, but at least you have stuck to the fact that your blog doesn't have to be objective. Good for you Mayor Sam.

Two days to go.

March 06, 2005 9:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1) Hertzberg may not pay for the blog, but his volunteers obviously run it. Nice truth in advertising - good to see Hertzberg studying under Schwarzenegger and the Bush Administration. Can a Hertzbergian "Jeff Gannon" be far behind? Integrity, always integrity from Hertzberg.

2) How sick is Hertzberg to get into bed with Schwarzenegger, anyway? How well did Arnie poll within the City of LA? Hertzberg must be doing real well with the CNA, for example. Bob Hertzberg, just another DINO...why doesn't he run as a Republican? He might give Moore a run for his money.

3) Speaking of Nazis, when Buford Furrow shot up the JCC, did Bob make it to the memorial service? I remember seeing Yaroslavsky there, but not Huggy Bear; did Bob make it, or was he too busy? Please prove me wrong on this one, if you can.

4) Hertzberg is running for mayor, yet he says he will "break up the LAUSD," which obviously does not fall in the bailiwick of the mayor of Los Angeles. Earth to Bob - you can't "break up the LAUSD," anymore than Dick Riordan could ... So not only is Hertzberg a liar, he is insulting the intelligence of Los Angeles' voters.

Quite a round-up for the man who would "restore trust and integrity" to City Hall.

March 06, 2005 9:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hertzberg is a wack. Don't much care for Villaraigosa. I'll probably be voting for Hahn again. He's not the best but we know where he's coming from. Sign me:

Targeted Valley Voter

March 06, 2005 10:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Man, i cant wait for bob to come in third. Dont you get it, if he wanted to win this thing he would have mortgaged his house and cashed out his capital account and bought some name recognition. the guy is splitting the jewish vote three ways, he gets no suck in the valley - after all, look what happened to poor andrei cherny, hertzberg could not even get the boy wonder elected over lloyd levine!.

Look at the clients he has, and look at the names he is raising from.

think about it.

March 06, 2005 10:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam:

Good for you.

No need to explain the money situation. LA Times, nor the Daily News or any other paper that endorsed any of the candidates had to explain themselves while receiving advertising dollars from the candidates.

You articulated the point by point reasons for the endorsement superbly.

Let me tell you what’s been happening at the Hahn camp these last few days.

1) After an extremely lackluster response from the rank and file union members (all of them, specifically the city employee unions), Hahn and his boots called in the union heavies last week Thursday and read them the riot act. Due to the fact that over 75% of all city related union deals expire in the midst of a Hahn second term, he laid it on the line to them. Either they get their collective union asses in gear or risk losing it all. Shouting and foaming was going on.

Result: Following a clearly scripted event schedule, unions were REQUIRED (“pay them fucking overtime” was uttered with the Marathon as the reason thru Sunday and Monday TBD) to man at a minimum 20 members at every single minor Hahn event and up to 30-50 at larger venues holding the required signage etc. thru election day.

Chick should check payrolls for many of these union employees and she WILL see above average overtime slips submitted.

2) Fearing for his political life (but more so the goons surrounding him AKA McLoser) Hahn is going to racebait this contest to death. At Cantor’s Deli earlier today, Hertzberg presented “the Kitchen Sink” tied with a red bow to Hahn, (who turned red, kicked up his heels and fled) so the Hahn could also throw the kitchen sink at him. Additionally, the management at Cantor’s asked the Hahn people to leave as they were disturbing the customers and had not called in advance asking permission as had been done by Hertzberg’s people (Perhaps another reason to go with Hertzberg, a real class act).

3) 3rd Floor is a ghost town till after the election. Fearing for last minute discoveries, a memo was circulated (one memo walked from office to office, cubicle to cubicle, no email, no copies) that every computer must be turned off if not at your desk. A reminder speech of deleting all “spam e-mail messages” ASAP was also drilled into our heads again and again. I’m not sure what they’re scared of, but there is something lurking out there.

4) Boxes of stuff have been moving out of the offices in the last few days. More like binders and binders of God knows what but 3-4 people. (Did not look personal to me)

5) Most of the staff here has “taken personal days” (Bullshit) to assist with the campaign.

6) I am in awe of the crap these people are pulling on your (the taxpayers) dime. If Hahn doesn’t win, thousands upon thousands of tax payer dollars are being flushed down the drain.

7) Tomorrow, I’m supposed to work the campaign (not asked, ordered), so I’ll let you guys know how Hahn’s last day as possible 2nd term mayor goes.

Mayor Sam…. Good luck….

For I know…. I am…..

The Fly

March 06, 2005 11:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


I'm an Alarcon supporter, but you're a scumbag. What are you doing working there if it's so bad? Shit, remind me to never hire you. Unless I'm running the Stasi.

March 06, 2005 11:51 PM  

Anonymous Ryan Gene said:

Well it doesn't surprise me that the kooks are coming out in full support of Hertzberg.

He does not care about the city of Los Angeles, he only cares about himself. It's going to take a real leader who doesn't have any ties to special interests to fix this city and rid it of special interests.

That man is Walter Moore. Need I remind you all that prior to Riorden being elected he never held a public office before. Neither has Walter and I'm sure he will make a very fine mayor that we can all be proud of... except, for the kooks.

Ahem... Sam.

March 07, 2005 12:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

this is a joke right Mayor Sam? Bob is a stumbling clown and a weirdo. He's more corrupt than anyone. He's still getting paid $20,000 from his law firm and he's not working and he won't say who is clients are. That's enough to cause suspicion. Mayor has nothing to say about LAUSD and Bob is still at it. He and ADV all of a sudden are saying they are the victims. I 'm shocked you even mention Bitter Bernie. He had a lot to do with Rampart and after the election it will all come out. He's lying through his teeth about 3-12 and no one is challenging his butt. Read a book called "Labyrinth" by Randal Sullivan. It lays Bernie out so bad on all the corruption that went on while he was chief. We have such a biased media they're like tabloid reporters for just reporting their candidates good stuff. They should go to Europe with that kind of shit.

March 07, 2005 7:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who is Meat?
ex Antonio staffer.
5'7 to 5'8
Slim as a paper clip.
Dark skin
Black Hair
Gets the name Meat from His Boss Rob Riener "Meat Head"

March 07, 2005 7:31 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Although I can understand why someone would vote for Hertzberg, you give not a single compelling reason for doing so. C'mon Mayor Sam, put on that thinking cap and dig deep. I'm sure you are somewhat articulate (even if you do work at City Hall).

March 07, 2005 7:52 AM  

Anonymous MEATEATER said:

Just to remind everyone their predictions from around Christmas:


I don't think Antonio or Hahn get first in the primary.

As for the primary --

1. Hertzberg -- i'll say 33%
2. Antonio -- Alarcon margin of error - 22-25% each
3. Hahn -- 15%
4 Parks -- 5% or below

As for the run-off Antonio beats Hahn - 52-48.

Anyone else??

blog away.
# posted by Anonymous : 12/23/2004 01:20:43 PM

How does AV or JH get in the primary if they don't take first and second?

Its going to be Hugsberg and Antonio in the runoff.
# posted by Anonymous : 12/23/2004 01:22:47 PM

So no one is giving Hahn a chance huh? I don't know. I wouldn't cancel the man out just yet. Just a thought.
# posted by Anonymous : 12/23/2004 02:29:38 PM


To the previous blogger, MEAT was referring to what he believes will be the results in the Valley. MEAT should have made that clear in his comments, but with all the "dum-dums" that he has to fight off, I can see where he missed that.

My opinion, I think the Valley will break down in the primary like this:

Hertzberg: 30%
Villaraigosa: 23%
Hahn: 22%
Alarcon: 20%
Parks: 5%

I think that Hertzberg's $$$ will allow him more resources to promote himself in the Valley to develop his base and bring out Hahn's lack of genuine interest in the Valley. I doubt that he'll be able to replicate those results anywhere else in the city, but that's what his warchest is for.

So that's my guess on how'll it will all come out. I guess we don't have too long to see if it does come out that way.

Best holiday wishes to all (yes, even MEAT), enjoy this time with your family and loved ones, and let's keep the great chats rollin' in 2005. Let's use this latest exchange of ideas as an example of what I think the 4th Floor Blog wanted to achieve when it was originally created and what Mayor Sam and the rest of the team here wanted to continue supporting.
# posted by Anonymous : 12/23/2004 03:40:23 PM




# posted by Anonymous : 12/23/2004 04:08:31 PM

Don't erase this thread, Mayor Sam!

Hertzberg 32%
Hahn 27%
Villaraigosa 23%
Alarcon 12%
Parks 6%
Rest 1%

Hahn 29
Villaraigosa 25
Hertzberg 22
Parks 12
Alarcon 10
Rest 2
# posted by Anonymous : 12/23/2004 04:55:11 PM

Don't tell me how to run my god damn blog, tinhorn!

In the meantime, its Hertzberg, Alarcon, Bitter Bernie, Villar and then Poopy in the Valley.

City as a whole its Villar, Hertzberg, Poopy, Bitter and Alarcon.

posted by MayorSan

March 07, 2005 8:31 AM  

Anonymous Brian Hay said:

I know MEAT.

I gave MEAT his name.

MEAT is not Michael Trujillo.

If you recall back in Decemeber there was a "guess Meat" blog many people guessed many names.

Jimmy Blackman
Ben Austin
Parke Skelton
Ace Smith
Michael Trujillo
Ulysses Sanchez

None of those folks are MEAT.

MEAT is telling you the truth he does live in Los Feliz, he is 29 and he's originally from Arizona.

As MEAT would say...blog away dum-dums

March 07, 2005 9:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I love how when ADV tries to work with Republicans to get things done he's "building consensus" -- but when anyone else does (Hertzberg, etc.) they're "getting in bed with." What hypocrites!!

March 07, 2005 9:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What's up with this "Guess Who Meat Is" stuff. That's so 2004. Look, here's the low down on who he is, so that all of you Pollo Locos can move on with your lives:

Real Name: Jaime
Age: 29
Height: 5'11"
Home Area: Los Feliz
Job: Works for local neighborhood newspaper.

He's not hard to spot. He's been to many of the Hahn events. If there was chaos, I'm sure that he even was in Boyle Heights last week when Hahn rolled out his 2nd Tier Latino endorsements.

So, can we get back to real important issues???

March 07, 2005 9:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Everyone knows who MEAT is. The candidates guys all say its Ulysses in ADV's office no matter how much he denys. FLY you sound like a whinning female. If you hate your job get another one. I hate whiners. I agree ADV and Huggy sounding like victims. Jessica Garrison is such a f---ng moron. She has a story in LAT and starts off by saying mother in Boyle Heights doesn't know who she's voting for. Then in the next 3 sentences says the mom had decided to vote for ADV. Garrison doesn't even try to hide she's a ADV groupie. Huggy looked stupid carrying around that sink. How could his people let him make a fool of himself like that?

March 07, 2005 10:27 AM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

More (or less?) Tony V. endorsements.

Supporter(s) of Attention-Deficit Villaraigosa were quick to list the endorsement of the "Eastside Sun" local newspaper in the district, it seems only right to complete the roster to show the "overwhelming" support that the "honorary" councilmember for CD14 has gained from other Eastside media.

There are five weekly or monthly papers that serve all, or some significant portion of the 14th District, plus a couple of hard-to-find sproradic newsletters (a new newsletter in the El Sereno/Boyle Heights area is run by an ADV® supporter, but is nearly impossible to find). The 5 papers are:

(Publishes EASTSIDE SUN, and some similar regional titles - but all the same copy inside). Mostly distributed outside the city in neighboring county areas; not actually published in the city of L.A. Its penetration is particularly poor in the Northeast (50+ percent of CD14). Endorsed Pacheco for CM in '03. They have endorsed Villaraigosa for mayor, as previously reported here.

ARROYO SECO JOURNAL (just recently began publishing again).
Jokingly called the Arroyo Seco "Urinal" on local listservs by some critics. Under one previous incarnation ("Northeast Observer") this one endorsed Pacheco for CM in '03. For Mayor, this time, a split, Times-style cop-out endorsement for Alarcon AND Villaraigosa.

Wave Newspapers bought out the old Northeast Newspapers many years ago that served nearly all of CD14 and beyond for decades, and still publishes a stripped down version for the Eastside. (Don't recall their '03 endorsement.) For mayor in 2005, they endorse Hertzberg.

This paper has been referenced here before. In 2003, gave overwhelming endorsement to ADV® and trashed the incumbent CM. Last year, after Antonio broke his promise not to run for mayor, the editor/published apologized to his readers for supporting ADV® in that lie. For Mayor in 2005 -- NO endorsement.

Copies of this were not readily available, yet. However, this paper endorsed Pacheco for CM in '03 and the publisher has been most vocal against Villaraigosa's inaction in CD14 since. I believe they pre-announced support for Hertzberg (?), but if anyone in the district has seen this, please confirm they actually took a position. If that IS the case, more Eastside newspapers have endorsed Hertzberg than ADV® on his home turf.

(*This list does not include the Downtown News which also covers a small portion of CD14. They endorsed Hahn earlier.)

So, it goes something like this - 5 throwaways: Endorsements for ADV® = 1.5; endorsements for others = *2.5 (includes HPN/ERP, but not Downtown News); no endorsement = 1.

March 07, 2005 10:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What a whinning little school girl ADV is sounding on his website. Poor me, Hahn is picking on me and calling me names. Damn, I hate weak men. Good for Hahn taking their shit for all these months and now that he lets people know what crooks ADV and Huggy are and what crybabies. More females have told me today there's nothing worst then a weak ass man and ADV for sure is sounding like he needs someone to protect him. IF he's this weak with just name calling then he better throw in the towel. REMEMBER THAT DRUG LETTER?....REMEMBER THAT DRUG LETTER WHEN YOU VOTE TOMORROW.

March 07, 2005 10:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:



March 07, 2005 10:47 AM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

FN: When it endorsed Hertzberg, The Northeast Wave (and it's Spanish-language sister paper, "La Ola"), made some particularly tough comments about ADV®:

"... an atypical applicant for the mayor's job: a once promising pol who continues to provide us with reasons why he should be denied the higher office he seeks....By entering this year's mayoral race, he broke an ill-advised* promise made to his 14th District constituents in 2003 that, if elected, he would serve a full council term. Villaraigosa claims the din of supporters [laugh track added here, by poster] who urged him to run for mayor again excused him from his pledge, be we are left to wonder how similar rationalizations would manifest themselves if he were to succeed Hahn [more laugh track].

*ill-advised. . . I like that, kinda sums up the entire 21st century for ADV®, don't it.

March 07, 2005 10:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Fly is the most interesting person posting on this blog because he shows us just how desperate the Hahn camp is! And they should be desperate. From the start, Hahn has surrounded himself with idiots and incompetent staffers, starting with Troy Edwards and including, but not limited to, Doane Liu, Julie Wong and Shannon Murphy. But, we shouldn't be surprised because incompetence attracts incompetence. I should know. I've worked with all these losers for a long time. The worst is Shannon Murphy who deeply in over her head. But, that's no surprise since she got her job the old fashioned way.

March 07, 2005 11:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FINALLY ADV ADMITS ON HIS WEBSITE..And HAHN should be congratulated for some meaningful accomplishments during his first term, such as helping voters make the right decision against allowing Hollywood and the San Fernando Valley to secede from the City of Los Angeles. And HAHN made a solid choice in William Bratton to lead the LAPD, resulting in a lower crime rate and a more popular police department........ADV has just given the best reasons why people should vote for HAHN. What the hell has that little asshole done? A big 0 for his district alone. IF he can't do anything for his own district how can he possibly run a city? He's been absent more as a councilman then anyone. He's behaving like a crybaby that is really turning people off. GROW UP ANTONIO AND START ACTING LIKE A MAN IF YOU KNOW HOW..I DOUBT IT

March 07, 2005 11:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sac, why is it with all the people who post here, supporting ADV, no one ever defends him by saying: "yeah. I was one of the ones who begged him to run for mayor -- to save us from Hahn."

They defend him by saying "all pols lie" and "he had a good reason to break his promise" etc. -- but not a single
supporter has EVER come forward and said they asked him to do it, backing up that obvious lie that the media keep swallowing whole.

March 07, 2005 11:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sac, why is it with all the people who post here, supporting ADV, no one ever defends him by saying: "yeah. I was one of the ones who begged him to run for mayor -- to save us from Hahn."

They defend him by saying "all pols lie" and "he had a good reason to break his promise" etc. -- but not a single
supporter has EVER come forward and said they asked him to do it, backing up that obvious lie that the media keep swallowing whole.

March 07, 2005 11:10 AM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

I don't know.
I don't know.

Maybe not all ADV® groupies are as willing to lie for him as they are to accept the manufactured party line as fact. I know a number of hardcore supporters, including some neighbors in the area he lives in that hosted fundraisers, and while they also defend him, none have ever claimed that he asked advice on whether to proceed. In FACT, here's a direct e-mail quote from one fundraiser/supporter there (who would NOT want to be ID'ed):

"Does Villaraigosa trust and support the NCs? HA HA HA HA - very funny!"

(Note there are 4 "HA's" there, not the typical 3). Since he doesn't value constituent advice on things happening in the district, and pits his "advisory" neighborhood councils against each other over simple, common-sense things like the naming of a pocket (not "regional") dog parke well within one small community, why would anyone (except gullible reporters) think he would actually consult supporters over career decisions?

HEY, I just had a thought... IF it ends up being Hertzberg vs. ADV® after tomorrow, the honorary Eastside councilmember is DONE, job accomplished. He told media he got into the race to save the city from Hahn's corruption. So, if he and Hertberg's campaigns against Hahn work, he can quit the race early, concede to Hertzberg, and go back to work in CD14. NO NEED to continue (that's IF his stated reasons for running were "true"). BIG if... BIGGER lie.

March 07, 2005 11:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NO Latino organizations listed in support of ADV on his website. Not one community leader listed. NO ONE from his DISTRICT. Really shocked little Fabian would be following him yesterday. He obviously has no clue what his district thinks of him. NO MOLINA endorsement this year. WOW!!!! big hit.

ADV always say "my constituents wanted me to run for Mayor." Bold face lie. Not one person in CD14 ever told him to run. He's never mentioned them ever. Why? Cause like those 80 made up neighborhood watches they DON'T EXIST.

March 07, 2005 11:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Survey USA numbers -- take it or not.

Your Latino orgs that are sooo important must be supporting Antonio -- how can his numbers be this high?

Personally these numbers are lil high in my opinion.


Blog away

March 07, 2005 12:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who are the dummies at the LA Alternative Press (new editor Marc (Doyen) Haferle) endorsing Villaraigosa with these words: "It will be good to have a future senator or governor as mayor." Did Tony tell Marc that he's preparing to run for another office already!!! Haven't you heard about the RECALL, Marc????

March 07, 2005 12:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

(I don't think KABC-TV will be using SurveyUSA anymore after this... that "most accurate" in past election is going to be egg on the face tomorrow).

No wonder the station doesn't post the results.

March 07, 2005 12:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

the alternative press ran an article on a well known sexual predator in skid row who preys on the homeless. They didn't even know he was taking them for a ride with all of the claims to helping artists and children in the area.

goes to show you what the la alternative press is all bout. They have no credibility.

Drug dealers , sexual predators , rapists , murderers , and anyone engaged in any sort of illegal behavior will be voting for Antonio Villaraigosa. That is the bottom line. They know that a fomer ACLU man will fight for thier rights to engage in illegal behavior and terrorize their neighbors.

March 07, 2005 12:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I saw that L.A. Alternative (formerly Silverlake News) piece. What a joke -- one of the worst reasons to vote for anyone yet. "He's ambitious." It would be one thing if the guy would stay put long enough to do something worthy of moving up the ladder, but GEEZ, he's run for office SIX TIMES and served for only EIGHT YEARS in public life.

Wave bye-bye!

March 07, 2005 12:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, they haven't said anything about it on their website, but judging from what I've heard of a few recent MTA public hearings, the Bus Riders' Union and their membership H-H-H-HAAAAAAATES Hertzberg.

I call that the best Hertzberg endorsement I've ever heard.

March 07, 2005 12:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT asks: "...how can his numbers be this high?"

It's simple; they can't, and that's the only poll (with its very small sample) that's even close to those numbers. Get over yourself and your idol, before tomorrow, or we're gonna hear you jumped off a tall building in Los Feliz - if there are any there - into traffic, and your emaciated little idol-worshipping body is creating one of those traffic tie-ups Hertzberg is trying to do away with.

March 07, 2005 1:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To a previous poster a few comments earlier in the thread: I've heard plenty of people who live AND vote in CD 14 ask AV to run. I was one of them.

March 07, 2005 1:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Overheard Kam speaking on his phone today. Here are the numbers straight from Kam's mouth to your eyes.


Blog away

March 07, 2005 2:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"I was one of them."

Thank you, Parke, and welcome back to Mayor Sam's blog. We assumed you did, and all your partners and employees (who will benefit financially from his second loss citywide). After how many months of begging and goading since ADV made this outrageous stupid comment -- claiming that his consituents WANT to go through ANOTHER painful, do-nothing period of transition between councilmembers -- FINALLY, someone (anonymously) comes forward and says "its true" he asked constituents. "I was one..."

As long as we're being "anonymous" and silly... I personally know 12,000 people who just signed the recall petition. Today.

March 07, 2005 2:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT, who's right, Kam or SurveyUSA. You gotta decide and stop waffling. That's ADV's job, to play both sides. (Oh, and don't forget to vote amidst all you blogging... it's gonna be closer than you think!)

OH, and I just overheard Ace Smith on his phone saying, "pack up the office and hide everything of value. Antonio's gonna sue us blind for malpractice when he loses this time."

March 07, 2005 2:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT oopss I mean Ulysses you are so full of shit. IF ADV thinks the mud is slinging now I can hardly wait til Wednesday. Then it will really hit the fan. I know all the active residents in CD14 and not one single one told ADV to run for Mayor. In fact that's why all his supporters have bailed on him cause he personally promised them to their faces he'd stay and wasn't using them. The ENRON stuff, drug letter and now the law firm stuff on Huggy is hurting them both. So MEAT stick your numbers up your very very large butt, I mean Ulysses.

March 07, 2005 2:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Kuwata is quoting near identical numbers to the L.A. Times poll from more than a week ago. No movement on any front, all within the same 4-point margin of error. I'd say last week was a total waste for all three then... $2 to $3 million down the drain. Fire all the campaign consultants and start over after the primary if that's the best they can do with 20 percent undecided last week.

March 07, 2005 2:38 PM  

Anonymous GIRTH said:

WHAT a surprise!!!! Douche bag Mayor Sam endorses Douche bag Huggy Hertz! what a crock! You know, your little disclaimer at the top of this post is a bunch of crap. Of course you have the 'right' to endorse anyone you wish....but dont make the title of your blog "Mayor Sam's Sister City - HOME LOS ANGELES POLITICS" ....that would imply that this is an objective blog. Which this is obviously NOT. How about you rename it to "Mayor Sam's Sister City - SHILL FOR HUGY HERTZY." Ahhh, one has to wonder if there's some John Thune/South Dakota Bloggers quid pro quo going on here!

March 07, 2005 2:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So that big banner on top of the big local paper that says LOS ANGELES Times means they shouldn't make any endorsements either. Maybe that should be renamed the LOS(t) ANTONIO TIMES, shill for ADV.

March 07, 2005 3:10 PM  

Anonymous GIRTH said:

Do me (and yourself) a favor, don't compare the Los Angeles Times to this shit-laden, rumor spreadin', candidate smearin', shill for Hertzy blog! Just trying to look out for you man, you kinda look like an imbecile doing that.

March 07, 2005 3:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

the LAT is a shit laden piece of crap. Its as bad as the Daily News. Sadly LA has no credible newspaper in the city or journalists for that matter. They're both bias, both full of bullshit and spin worst then the National Enquirer. Most of their reporters are idiots who don't have a clue and are easily swayed by a smile. Its unbelievable what the editors print and call it news. They would never make a major newspaper in another big city. They are middle school journalists compared to the "big time." We're stuck with them.

March 07, 2005 3:53 PM  

Anonymous GIRTH said:

To Anonymous 3:53; you're a moron. You must be some Republican hack that wants the Washington Times to break into the LA market. Shut your mouth from now on, please.

March 07, 2005 4:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sorry if I hurt your feelings Jessica Villagarrison. Yes, and you are one of those clueless idots who don't know how to write news. No one else would be defending the LA newspapers unless they report for them. Anyone on this blog has more sense then you and your other reporters like McGreevy, Finnegan, Levy, Maeta Gold. At least Rick Orlov really tries. Why don't you report on the 14 homicides in CD14 and ADV doesn't give a damn and hasn't said one word about them? Your bias is nauseating

March 07, 2005 4:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jessica Villarigarrison also has a thing for Jack Weiss. Why do you think he is the only Valley councilmember to get play in the Times?

March 07, 2005 5:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jessica Villarigarrison also has a thing for Jack Weiss. Why do you think he is the only Valley councilmember to get play in the Times?

March 07, 2005 5:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wasn't Jessica Garrison the one who reported in her puff-file (profile) of candidate Villaraigosa a few weeks ago that he won the GENERAL election in 2001, not the PRIMARY. (Might explain why he still thinks he was "robbed"). And it got by ALL her politically savvy editors on its way to final print. With local political knowledge that piled high and deep at the Times (covered and edited by "Ivy League" grads from the Bos/Wash coordinor), it's a wonder they haven't already called the May 17 mayor's vote for Bernard Parks.

March 07, 2005 5:20 PM  

Anonymous GIRTH said:

Ok well you're obviously ALL idiots. First of all, I didn't even mention the LA Times. Some imbecile brought up the Times in response to one of my posts. But if you morons want to make assumptions as to who I am, please keep guessing. I could give a flying f*ck, but it delights me that you will be tormented trying to guess my identity (does it bother you so?). I could care less about the LATimes...i'm actually a NY Times reader. But anyway, back to the ORIGINAL issue...this site is a clear shill for Hugy Hertzy....I wonder what Douche bag Sams getting out of this quid pro quo.....hmmmzzz

March 07, 2005 5:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You are all so stupid...Meat works for Hertzberg and pretends to work for Antonio...did you ever notice that he leaves all of these hints that you idiots fall for to throw you off his scent...he's really close to Bob - and he's tricked you now for months

Blog away Dum Dums

March 07, 2005 8:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Please, anybody can tell MEAT's personality is way too grating for him to be "real close" to anyone, especially pols with a life.

March 07, 2005 9:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

dum dum de dum

March 07, 2005 9:42 PM  

Anonymous MEAT said:


thanks for the plug again. I am a crabby lazy guy that only want to pretend i know everything when in fact i know nothing.

March 07, 2005 10:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jessica Villagarrison is the biggest groupie LAT has. She's one of those dumb women who doesn't get attention from men then one loser like ADV gives her a smile and she's all over him. Don't ever say anything negative about ADV in front of her or she will go off on you. She's been given tons of documented info on ADV not doing his job and she's never printed it. She doesn't do her homework or research. She just writes what her little heart feels about ADV and that's why we get such shit out of her stories. She shou;d be writing for Star mag. Wish we had someone from Washington Post covering this election. Maybe we would get some balance.

March 08, 2005 7:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

jeez. How does it feel to be used by bob. and all you guys prove that the internet means nothing for politics. what means something is to have bill wardlaw pulling strings, not geeks pulling RSS.

March 08, 2005 11:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

In the odd case that anyone thought MEAT had any credibility left, I just saw one of the "named" anti-Villaraigosa NC (bitter) leaders from CD14 that MEAT tried to "out" a couple weeks back as being PRO-Hertzberg and attending his Eastside opening. He was following another candidate around, holding up an "ELECT _________" sign on TV, behind a completely DIFFERENT mayoral candidate (not Villaraigosa/not Hertzberg). Boy, can you say 100 percent wrong, 100 percent of the time?

March 08, 2005 11:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

enough with the innuendos poster 11:24am. There's only 8.5 hours left - just say who you saw and who that person is supporting. if they were out in public that means they want people to know.

March 08, 2005 11:37 AM  

Anonymous MEAT said:


So i am 100% wrong because mr anonymous says i am, but has not proof other than innuendo.

Jessica Garrison is bad because she doesn't listen to people that take Aderal everyday. Nevermind that there are dozens of reporters that cover city hall and mr villaraigosa. Nevermind that no credible reporter will ever give you insane wackos the light of day.

You guys had 150 days -- and because you guys are idiots wasted 7 weeks of potential signature gathering. So now you have half the normal time (only dum-dums would put themselves in this situation) you are clawing for attention so you attack a LA Times reporter because in the dark alleys you run in and the conspiracy theories that run through your little brains everyday didn't pan out on the newspaper. I am sure Jessica gave you a look, a sneer and was laughing in her head the whole time, because you are simply idiots.

Yesterday Jim Hahn said he's going to bury whoever he faces. I love that language, that sort of talk makes me want to hand jim hahn his walking papers.

blog away dum-dums

March 08, 2005 12:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You're an idiot MEAT. Everyone in the city thinks Jessica Villagarrison is a moron even her peers from other papers. She's the most unbalanced reporter in this city. That line Hahn said yesterday I hope happens by the end of day. MEAT those are the EXACT WORDS HERTZBERG TOLD THE LAT when asked about how Hahn replied. Damn, find your own mind. And of course we all know no matter how much you deny you are truly little pudgy ULYSSES IN ANTONIO'S OFFICE. Gotta love the line the kid at the westside mall told Antonio yesterday when approached, I'm running for Mayor" the kid replied..."Yeah, I saw your commercials and your the ENRON GUY.....CLASSIC in today's LAT, from McGreevey.

March 08, 2005 12:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Unbelievable ADV would have press conference to make more promises he can't keep. Give me a f----ng break he promises to invest $15 mil in Olvera street but doesn't say how. Says he will bring down crime although he didn't mention a damn word about the 12 homicides in Boyle Heights since January.

Mayor Sam you need to get fresh articles this week.

March 08, 2005 12:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To The Fly:
Very interesting posting, but it implied that ALL City unions were complicit in this meeting when, in fact, one of the largest unions, Engineers and Architects Association, IUPA Local 8000, was not invited and, had we been invited, we would have walked out of the meeting. We've been telling everyone for a long time about this guy Hahn and we have put our money and effort to good use in supporting Antonio Villaraigosa to replace him. These desperate efforts are indicative of how badly the current Mayor is fairing. As you read this, I have instructed EAA's counsel to research legal action against the Mayor for this illegal tactic.

Robert G. Aquino

March 08, 2005 12:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To MEAT. Now, what story of yours is true? Didn't you post weeks ago that you had friends in the Recall camp collecting signatures? Didn't you post weeks ago that the Recall had thousands of signatures but you knew "hundreds" were fake? Didn't you say that 5 "sleazy" bar owners were financing the recall? Didn't you say that the Recall people hadn't filed their financials? MEAT, on every single thing you have posted you have been wrong! Nothing what you have said about the recall is anywhere near the truth. You have said you would list the 80 neighborhood watches Antonio claims credit for setting up. YOU NEVER DID. You said you were going to name the 5 sleazy bar owners who financed the recall. YOU NEVER DID. You have no credibility - and if you do work for Rob Reiner, he truly deserves the MEATHEAD sobriquet for hiring you. Of course, Villaraigosa knows no better. MEAT, one little scrap of information for you. You're right. We didn't collect signatures in the last several weeks. We were busy doing something else that will soon become very clear. Let's see if you pea sized brain can think what that was. What a loser you are. You and Villaraigosa deserve one another.

March 08, 2005 12:27 PM  

Blogger Anon-in-the-know said:

"...enough with the innuendos poster 11:24am."

I can clarify for the anxious Anonymous at 11:37. I saw this as well. Richard Acosta, the president of LA32 Neighborhood Council (the second largest in CD14 representing about 25 percent of the district), was holding a Hahn campaign sign behind the current mayor at a rally shown on local TV news. Pro-ADV "spies" on the blog had identified him as one of several district NC presidents attending the Hertzberg Eastside office opening some days back, and
supporting that candidate, instead of Villaraigosa. He was also supposed to be part of the "bitter" Pacheco supporters behind the recall, which I'm told by very reliable sources is also false. (And he doesn't own a sleazy bar, either).

March 08, 2005 1:06 PM  

Anonymous MEAT said:



Right there on this page is Richard Acosta's name.

So Anon-in-the-know, knows nothing.

And to recap, you dum-dums were collecting signatures with an unapproved petition (like idiots) once i realized what was going on and how stupid you guys are, i had my folks go home.

You are funded by sleazy bar owners, you guys are nothing but a political ploy, and no one takes you seriously.

Today you are going to see Antonio receive more votes than what he got against nick pacheco -- if you were hoping for press after today, you are dumb.

blog away dum-dums

P.S. I don't work any hollywood types. To be honest whoever said i work for a local paper is 100% correct.

March 08, 2005 1:42 PM  

Blogger Anon-in-the-know said:

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March 08, 2005 2:06 PM  

Blogger Anon-in-the-know said:

"So Anon-in-the-know, knows nothing."

Mr. MEAT. I know what I saw (and I was the second one to mention it here) -- I can guarantee you he was there, holding a sign for Hahn. Maybe his "ChangeLA" was his vote, or maybe he's just "anybody but Villaraigosa." But it was him. But thank you for the link, I hadn't realized until today that the presidents of two MORE Neighborhood Councils on the Eastside -- one's that are all, or partially within CD14 -- are also endorsing Hertzberg over ADV (I was aware of two already, but four are listed there out of the 5 or so in CD14). Thanks to your helps, I now see that the Eagle Rock and Cypress Park NC presidents both also endorsed Hertzberg and shunned ADV. Ironically, Cypress Park is one of the few NCs in the area ADV has ever actually visited. He must not have made a very good impression.

I know what I saw, and now (thank you) I know your candidate's support in his district is even smaller than I had previously thought among its top-level activists.

March 08, 2005 2:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Amazing how rumors fly because of some idiot. The RECALL people are not the Pacheco supporters. I'm sure MEAT, ADV and the rest of his cronies would love for people to think that because it makes ADV the victim again. I remember MEAT saying that all of the NC (CD14)president's on the Eastside were ADV supporters. That was another LIE because obviously that's not true now is it?

March 08, 2005 2:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT, you're "setting the record straight" is helping the recall people with more ammunition against Tony V. Maybe you quit while your not quite ahead?

March 08, 2005 2:26 PM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

"Today you are going to see Antonio receive more votes than what he got against nick pacheco..."

Even I would be dumbstruck if Attention-Deficit Villaraigosa didn't get more votes in a citywide contest today (where something like 15 times as many people CAN vote), as he did in a district-only race two years ago. Heck, Alarcon will probably get more total votes today than any single council candidate. So what?

March 08, 2005 2:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sorry, but I absolutely REFUSE to believe that the person who has been posting tons of grammatically incorrect, typo-filled, poorly thought out rants based on nothing like facts and usually lacking anything resembling parallel sentence constructions actually works for a newspaper -- even a local throwaway! Not possible. Not even on a blog where people relax their syntax some, in haste.

(The L.A. Times, maybe. . .) But then he also didn't say what he does for the paper. I had a paper route when I was a boy, too.

March 08, 2005 2:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ADV is right on track like he was in 2001. I hope he enjoys while it lasts. This time though he has more people in his own district that are voting against him for other candidates.

March 08, 2005 3:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Certainly brought more CON-sense-us among his detractors there.

March 08, 2005 3:06 PM  

Anonymous MEAT said:


Well I may at times use very bad grammer and make many spelling errors, let’s not let that get in the way of what’s really important today. Today, Jim Hahn and his corrupt administration are being put to the 1st electoral test and he’s going to fail that first test. He fails that first test by virtue of him getting dragged into a run-off.

As for the previous claims made on here regarding my integrity, to people who have a clear and evil agenda I don’t feel the need to reply.

As for neighborhood councils, I never ever said that every president endorses Antonio, these little egos are hungry for power and want to break away from the pack, for their own political gain, not for the good of the community.

The fact that this blog can get down to nuanced endorsements from Neighborhood Councils folks that have the net effect of a fly on crap just shows how insane you guys are.

As for hurting or helping, if we listened to the folks on this blog Antonio wouldn’t be where he is in the polls today.

This blog, for all the fun it is, makes no real difference on how people will vote.

Blog away dum-dums

March 08, 2005 3:21 PM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

(MEAT): "As for neighborhood councils, I never ever said that every president endorses Antonio, these little egos are hungry for power and want to break away from the pack, for their own political gain, not for the good of the community."

VERY NICE. People who have in many cases dedicated more years of their lives in community service than little-boy MEAT has been alive, are now simply "egos" to be trashed in the service of the biggest, baddest ego on the Eastside, Antonio EGO-raigosa. Yup, you're his little love-child, all right, chump off the old back-stabbing block. Before ADV® ever thought of running for political office, some of these people were fighting city hall, working precincts, cleaning up communities (without cameras present), and struggling to get crumbs from the city coffers to make their neighbors safer. But to you, at your advanced "wise" age of 29, they're just power-mad mini-titans because they DARE to demand truth and constituent service from a councilmember (and there's only room for one power-mad mini-titan in each district, right?) Whatever ADV® does next, whatever next 3 positions he runs for before 2010, those "little egos" in CD14 will still be there when he's gone, still working hard, still getting more done each years for their communities than the council office has in the past two years.

But this well defines ADV®'s problem with NCs and other empowered community groups. He doesn't like "empowered" people who know what they want. That's threatening. Then he might actually have to deliver on a promise. More often than not, ADV® is just in the way of real progress (because that's the ONLY way he gets his photo-op and an "advance to the next position" GO card).

Whether you said "all" NC presidents or not, it's very telling that the truth is actually "almost none" of the NC presidents support him. He never supported them either.

Most district NC presidents endorse others, most local papers endorse others, no leading Eastside activists on his Website, most of his staff brought in from outside the district, a recall mounted. Add it all up folks. They can't ALL be coincidences.

March 08, 2005 4:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So as a newspaper person with bad "grammer" (sic), do you cover politics, MEAT? Is there some conflict of interest here?

March 08, 2005 4:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Great comments Sacramento!!! You said all the things we are all thinking. How dare that little shit be condensending (sp?). CD14 has some great community activists that even organized a march because the violence was out of control a couple of years ago. ADV didn't walk with them but I sure as hell did.(Boyle Heights) They are active, vocal and people listen when they speak. They attend city council meetings when there is an agenda item affecting them. ADV has dismissed them but he's in for a real treat in the next couple of weeks. Other communities have said they wished they had residents who cared for their neighborhoods as the people in CD14. ADV hasn't been to one NC in Boyle Heights in over 1 1/2 yr. What do you say about that MEAT? He's on the damn Education &Neigborhood Committee.

March 08, 2005 4:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

At the same time, CD14 has some of the most dysfunctional NCs in the city (and that's saying something). LA32 is split wide apart, Cypress Park has never had an election (in almost three years)and was nearly decertified, Eagle Rock can barely mount a quorum most months. Where has the great "consensus builder" ADV been during all this? He can (supposedly) bring democrats and reublicans together in Sacramento, but can't get some of his neighbors within a 5 mile radius of home to sit down together in the same room (or if he CAN, he hasn't bothered to try). It would certainly help (as just mentioned) if he would actually meet with NCs, but -- no dice. Better for his ego if they do crash and burn... no "competition."

The city has no idea what a useless empty suit this is they're considering for mayor, but they should ask, look, listen. The people who really know whether a car is a LEMON, are the one's who last owned it, and this gutted roadster hasn't moved in years.

March 08, 2005 4:38 PM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

Oh, I hear the answer to that question (where is he?) whispered, "quietly" every day by his supporters. He's just too BIG for the CM job, he needs something "bigger" and more important for his advanced talents. Watch out, God, he's studying up on religion again - must want your job eventually, too.

March 08, 2005 4:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And right in Tony's backyard, the Arroyo Neighborhood Council is split. The Mount Washington Alliance doesn't participate in the neighborhood council because it's dominated by the Mount Washington Association ( the same people as the Northeast Progressive Alliance). Villaraigosa, the great unifier can't unify his own neighborhood.

March 08, 2005 7:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

In his front yard, too. He was supposed to come in as the "peacemaker" several years ago between the two groups as a nonpartisan state official, and only made things worse by waffling and telling both sides, "no, you're right" - no YOU're right." What a lightweight.

March 08, 2005 8:30 PM  

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