Double-Take**
As any good researcher does, I began browsing the sites of our Mayoral contenders to see what was new. As LA Voice already does a great job on keeping tabs of their sites, there is no reason for us to rehash his posts. But then something struck me. Yes, I did a double take. Had my eyes fooled me?
Check out Bob Hertzberg's site. They have a poll asking:
What has been the best move that Mayor Hahn has made since taking office?
Your selections are:
**Bob explains here
Check out Bob Hertzberg's site. They have a poll asking:
What has been the best move that Mayor Hahn has made since taking office?
Your selections are:
- Hiring Chief Bratton
- Reducing crime in parts of the city
- Improving the business climate
- Expanding after-school programs
- Encouraging the growth of housing stock
- There haven't been any good moves
**Bob explains here
Posted by Anonymous @ 11/18/2004 09:55:00 PM
22 Comments:
FROM CITYWATCHER.
Give me a f----ng break. How can anyone believe a poll from one of Hahn's competitors? It's on his own website. The best decision Hahn has made was to select Chief Bratton and there have been many polls stating that. Hertzberg has his own problems with Fleishman so he's the last one to be posting a poll. He also wanted to separate LA and public safety is 3rd on his list when 64% of residents said it was #1. Until he gets his priorties straight I suggest he quick playing with his website and get to real issues and start telling us what his vision is. We're YET TO HEAR IT
FROM CITYWATCHER.
Give me a f----ng break. How can anyone believe a poll from one of Hahn's competitors? It's on his own website. The best decision Hahn has made was to select Chief Bratton and there have been many polls stating that. Hertzberg has his own problems with Fleishman so he's the last one to be posting a poll. He also wanted to separate LA and public safety is 3rd on his list when 64% of residents said it was #1. Until he gets his priorties straight I suggest he quick playing with his website and get to real issues and start telling us what his vision is. We're YET TO HEAR IT
Why can't Hertzberg ask his supporters what they think Hahn has done right? And don't you think he'll be asked about his vision at the debate?
If I'm not mistaken, Hertzberg has been one of the only ones beating the drum just to get Hahn to the debate. Hahn hasn't done sh*t but try to duck. I would suggest you try to find Hahn's positions somewhere like his site, but he doesn't even have one.
I'm quite annoyed with Hertzberg these days. All the publicity he's been getting is at someone else's expense namely the Mayor. We haven't heard ONE word from his lips as to what he would do to help get more officers, yet all he's done is dog Hahn consistently on the public safety issue. He hasn't impressed me one bit. I heard him speak and doesn't sound like a leader who has the experience to run this city.
Where did Bob say public safety is number 3?
I've heard Hertzberg speak and he spouts ideas like water from a firehose. I'm looking forward to the debate.
All Hertzberg has done at the meetings he attends is bad mouth Hahn. He talks about housing, education and public safety but never really says anything. He doesn't say what he would do to help any one of these issues. He just talks, and talks, and talks. Can we please have some answers as to what he'll do? So far the only attention Bob has got has to do with his website.
FROM MEAT:
Politically speaking -- Bob is doing a fine job. All the publicity he gets whereever its from -- is very very helpful to him.
The most shrewd tactic i find however is the "no endorsement" position he is asking democratic clubs across the city (mostly SFV)to take. Which is a little odd, cause i think he can get their endorsements (not all, but some for sure). The political brain in me says he is doing this because during the primary he wants to run a little more to the right than most candidates to get republican and moderate Dem support. And not having an activated Dem Party during that portion of the race can be very helpful to give mr hertzberg the freedom to woo other voters. Which means of course one thing -- he will campaign as a major reformer -- things like, breaking up the LAUSD, major streamlining in the city govt to cut waste (maybe even sending those wasteful dollars into more cops) big things like these, which are't necessarily bad, but attract a different kind of voter. Absolutely not a julie butcher friendly platform, i still think its smart though.
Didn't Hertzberg almost bankrupt California when he was in the state assembly? I wonder how much money of the Fleishman pr that Chick is now reporting did Hertzberg get? Didn't he just leave the firm as a consultant as of recently as this year? Seems his hands are a little dirty as well.
FROM MEAT:
Did mr hertzberg almost bankrupt CA????
Answer: NO
I can give you a long detailed explanation but folks on this blog get mad when i write too much. Just know this -- deficit in CA --yes, caused by hertzberg --NO. Internet stock bubble pop -- yes Mr hertzberg's fault --NO Energy crisis (energy firms ripping off californians in the billion) --- yes. mr hertzberg's fault -- no.
We sued the energy companies -- they still haven't paid us back.
Well as of today seems that Hahn's best decision was to hire Chief Bratton. What I want to know is how much money did Fleishman pay Hertzberg to be a consultant? And wasn't that our tax dollars? Antonio and Parks (two of the biggest losers who have their own scandals) are asking the Mayor to pay back. Antonio should pay back the money he TOOK FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCILS. Parks all of a sudden is saying we need more officers. Idiots!
I heard that Hertzberg was a Fleishman consultant, but lots of people are Fleishman consultants. Did Hertzberg do work on DWP for Fleishman? Did he bill for it?
Hertzberg is the only candidate talking about issues but more importantly the only one empowering and encouraging citizens to do the same.
All we hear from Poopy, Tony Villar, Ricky Alarcon and Bitter Bernie is them trumpetting themselves.
Admittedly Hertzberg is sometimes a little over the top, but he isn't the bought and paid for empty suit the other candidates are (and yes I am excluding Walter Moore here).
Hey Meat-didn't the energy crisis do Gray in? Didn't the budget crisis have a part in his recall? Hmmmmmmm....
And yes, I think the public has a right to know how much Bobby boy made from FH as a consultant. I wonder if these people have ever heard of the word HYPOCRITE.
I think it's important for the voters to know exactly what Hertzberg did while at Fleishman. What clients did he consult for. How much money was he paid? Seems he's in this scandal up to his ears as well.
Bob Hertzberg has shown the voters already what a two faced person he is. He has the audacity to have press articles on his website of other mayoral candidates wanting the Mayor to payback Fleishman. Yet, HE worked for Fleishman as a consultant and we are yet to find out what he did and how much money he was paid. I think it's hypocritcal of him to be getting involved in this issue when Fleishman is his former employer. Is he using any of the Fleishman money for his campaign? Serious questions people better start asking NOW
Its one thing that Hugsberg worked for FH and got paid. Its another thing that Poopy used DWP money to pay them to give him campaign advice.
HERTZBERG is a HYPOCRITE. All of a sudden he wants to run a campaign on issues. That's not what he's been doing. His campaign so far has been the most negative and now he says in today's Daily News, "All too often, political campaigns are negative affairs. Petty bickering, mud-slinging and even personal charges bordering on slander are commonplace," Hertzberg said. "I want to run a substantive campaign based on issues."
Hertzberg has no crediability at all at this point. Every time he has spoken in the press it's been negative. TOO LATE Bob you already showing that you are two faced.
Seems to me every time an incumbent is asked to defend their record, they cry foul. Is the LA Times running a negative campaign against Hahn too?
TOUCHE...Interesting how the LA Times is spinning all the crap out there over and over. They are beginning to show the unbalanced, unfair reporting some of these other outlets are as well. Why haven't they reported that the other mayoral candidates took money from Fleishman. Why haven't they reported Hertzberg was a consultant for this devious company, and on and on
Well, well, dear Bob's Hahn poll loves the fact that Mayor Hahn hire Bratton as Chief. His greatest accomplishment. Don't think these mayoral candidates would have a clue how to keep crime down in this city if it hadn't been for Hollywood Bill to the rescue
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