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Tuesday, November 30, 2004

Does Poopy Need Hearing Aids?

So Mayor Poopy just won't give up. His most recent bullheaded acts are chronicled nicely in the Daily News and Daily Breeze. Hizzoner just won't stop until he has figured out a way to tax us some more. The City Council has already said NO. The voters said NO. The LAPD is already short the amount of budgeted officers they are allowed. YES we need more cops, but just because Mayor Poopy can't live up to his campaign pledges doesn't mean he should tax us into oblivion.

Maybe if the voters trusted his leadership and didn't feel like he is already pissing away our tax dollars we would support such a measure.
Quotes such as " I was disappointed when I heard some of the council members say "Well, we listened to the people and they didn't want this to happen"" don't help his cause.

Take advice from the council. LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE.

I'm writing this one of to just another stunt to buy off the Police Protective league endorsement. What the heck, it worked for him last time and everyone knows he needs all the support he can get.

I think our word of the day should be "EFFICIENCY"


Blogger Chief Parker said:

**Chief's Note** This post is in no way a slam on the rank and file LAPD who risks there lives day in and day out for our protection. It is directed at our city's wanna-be leader who can't seem to provide the necessary resources to fund them properly without robbing the taxpayers.

Also, As one previous commenter noted, maybe if we consolidate the 18 different law enforcements group patrolling LAX into one body that would free up man power to hit the streets...or look...Bratton found a way to free up another hundred officers...

November 30, 2004 9:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

From Spring Street Philosopher:


It seems as if Bratton is playing a shell game for Jimmy Hahn.

Parks is still bitter about that three day work week.

If Butter Bernie (I like that one) wins (he won't) Bratton better start looking for at condos in Manhattan (New York, not Manhattan Beach).

November 30, 2004 10:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bitter Bernie doesn't have a chance to win the mayor seat. Now, I'm not a supporter of Hahn but I gotta tell you he's the only one that has said all along we need more cops and our lame ass city council members haven't done a thing to help. Chief, I hate to disagree with you however, when you have 64% of the CITY not county who voted YES on the measure to get more officers that is saying something. Bratton is a great guy. I like the way he speaks his mind and puts Bitter Bernie to shame. He ain't going no where

November 30, 2004 11:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Regardless of what you feel about Parks, it's seems a little disturbing that while Hahn continues to push a tax to hire more officers, he defends a plan that allows the few officers that we do have to work three days a week. In fact, it seems as though city government has tried to hide this fact from the public. I had no idea about the 3-day workweek policy until Parks started yapping about it. And, I doubt that many taxpayers are aware of it.

November 30, 2004 11:43 AM  

Blogger Chief Parker said:

While you are correct that a larger share of the city did support the measure, every day we find another story of wasted tax dollars being spent on stupid stuff. Maybe if they all buckled down and started eliminating the waste, they could find the funding without having to pass the new tax. Poopy also runs the risk of the old three-strikes rule. If at first you don't succeed, try again. But if you fail again, you now have to swing at pitches all over the plate. Once strike three hits, you're toast.

Why not regroup, put together a meaningful and thought-out plan and then come back to the voters. That seems to be all the council and voters are asking for.

November 30, 2004 11:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Parks is telling lies to the press. Everyone knows that many cities already have their officers working 3-12. The Daily News reported that officers are working more hours on 3-12 then when they were on the other schedule. Who would believe a corrupt police chief anyway? Hello isn't this the same Chief who lied about Rampart? Who knew Raphael Perez before the Rampart scandal broke? Isn't this the same chief who promoted all his African American friends who were corrupt? People get a clue.

November 30, 2004 11:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I live in the 8th district, & what Bitter Bernie fails to disclose is not every officer is on a 3-day schedule. Some work 4 days, while others work 5 days. He also doesn't recognize the officers who go to community meetings on their own time. The captain at Southwest Division routinely works 7 days a week, along with other members of his division. Southwest has put together block club training, helped develop a better business for better neighborhoods program, & organized a peace rally in Baldwin Village. Does that sound like officers who are doing nothing? If Parks is so passionate about the 3-day work week, why doesn't he compile data detailing the number man hours (3 day vs. 7 day) & present it to the public. All of this is hot acrid air. He doesn't want to be mayor. He wants Poopy to lose.

November 30, 2004 12:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bitter Bernie needs to get over it and move on. He's upset that Bratton is doing a great job compared to the mess he left LAPD. I agree that officers work more on 3-12hr. Doesn't Bernie realize that if trys to put the officers back to their old schedule hundreds of them have already said in the press they will leave. Hasn't he done enough damage making 1,000 leave cause they couldn't stand him? Officers put in more hours working in the community at my area in the valley as well.

November 30, 2004 3:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If Bitter Bernard really wanted to address public safety, why doesn't he speak out about black on black crime and address some of the issues his buddy Bill Cosby is.

November 30, 2004 3:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good one last poster. That's right why doesn't the media EVER write about the black on black crime and how much money the city loses for all those homicides in the South? Where are all the black activists when a black person is innocently murdered? They sure come out for King/Drew, Wal-Mart but not the violence in their own backyard. Do they think if no one talks about it, the violence doesn't exist? And what has Bitter Bernie done to help stop the violence? Nothing but slam poor officers who are out there getting shot at by a bunch of no good losers who have nothing better to do.

November 30, 2004 4:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This blog is either becoming a haven for members of the PPL or the Hitler Youth(wait, aren't they the same group?). It is very obvious with the "Bitter Bernie" comments, you guys are all the same people who refuse to put ANY minorites in top spots of your organization and still to this day condone the Rodney King beating. As a former officer I am glad for several reasons: (1) I know how slimy the PPL is and I know that this talk about the end of the 3-day workweek has them shakin' in their boots (2) PPLers are living a nightmare because they may have a hand in eventually bringing the man they hate the most(Parks) into the mayor's seat and (3) Even if he doesn't win, Parks will still be around until at least 2007. If he runs for Council again make it 2011. And, he can still squeeze at least one more run for mayor in for 2009. Whatever happens in this election, you can bet your girlfriend Jimmy won't be around after March. You guys are screwed!

November 30, 2004 8:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Larry Elder had a good show today on how Bill Cosby, Magic Johnson and a few other black leaders are starting to speak up on how the community needs to address these issues.

November 30, 2004 9:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

[you guys are all the same people who refuse to put ANY minorites in top spots of your organization]

What organization? I'm a 1st time homeowner & minority who CHOSE to buy in CD8. You really want to see some people who are bitter about Bernie? Attend some local block club & neighborhood council meetings.

[and still to this day condone the Rodney King beating.]

Anyone who tries to outrun 5-0 in a Hyundai deserves to get his asses whupped!!

December 01, 2004 11:00 AM  

Blogger 4NIC8 said:

Only in government could you get a work week consisting of three twelve hour work days and somehow call that a full-time job. Life is grand working for the LAPD.

December 01, 2004 11:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam even posts "Bitter Bernie" on this site so chill. Secondly, we are not PPL employees. WE are concerned citizens who want to voice our opinions and thankfully we care enough to do that here on this website. If you don't like what you read then don't click on. The truth of the matter is Bitter Bernie WILL NEVER make it to MAYOR. He can't stand Bratton let alone all the officers who put up with his stubborn ass. There's no way in hell 3-12 will be taken away. That's how much you know. With all the support LAPD has citywide do you really think people will put up with scandlous Bitter Bernie's try at getting rid of it. Plllleeeeaaassseeee. I know people in the South who can't stand that man. He's not for his people. He's for himself and that's what made him fail for 2nd term. That's also what's going to make him fail for Mayor. Officers don't only work 3-12 idiot. Do your homework

December 01, 2004 2:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What people should be asking Bitter Bernie is why didn't he do anything to hire more cops or at least say we needed more cops while he was Chief? All of a sudden he's interested in putting more officers on the streets. Yet, he made us lose 1,000. People need to remember that HE'S THE CAUSE OF THE CONSENT DECREE. If he can't get along with Bratton and I'm sure many of you have seen how he attacks him in the media, how in the world can we expect him to behave if ever he became Mayor which I think will be a miracle?

December 01, 2004 3:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FROM MEAT: I was feeling left out from the cops debate, so i've decided to insert myself.


1. I like Alarcon's plan to take some money from LAX, Ports and DWP -- but instead of his 30 million tag from each, i'd make it 10 and only a one-time raid.

=$30 million (spread over 10 yrs, so its $3 million a yr)

2. Cut waste -- I think Greuel has something here, but i doubt she finds more than 2million per year.

= $2 million per yr (over 10 yrs=$20 million)

3. As the city budget grows we put aside 30% of all new money aside for police protection.

= $1-4 million pr yr (10-40 million over 10 yrs)

4. Add a 5 cent alcohol tax on every beer, glass of wine and shot of hard alcohol sold in the county.

= $150-200 million per yr ($1.5-2.0 billion over 10 yrs)


Why the alcohol tax meat? well, cops eerywhere have to deal with these damn DUI's - its about time the folks that get drunk and kill innocent people help pay for the costs associated with patrolling the streets. Plus who knows maybe there will be less purchasing of alcohol, not a bad thing.

The impact is basically 30 cents more every six-pack of beer, to joe six-pack. Not a lot of money to make sure lil sue has a safe street to play in.

There's MEAT'S police plan.

December 01, 2004 6:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT sorry to disagree with you but you're wrong in your assumptions of 10 yr cop plan. What do you do when the time of your 10yr plan is up? You fire all the cops you trained but don't have money for? It has to be a long time goal. How do other cities like New York, Chicago, Boston keep public safety #1 long term? My answer to this whole mess is get rid of the special event waivers for the private sector. Why the hell should large corporations come into our city, profit and have their fees waived. Make them pay for LAPD like the Sheriffs do. Why should LAPD do security for events like the marathons, premieres etc. without the companies paying directly to them? All these politicans are waving the fees because it's an election year. WE can save millions of dollars per year long term.

December 02, 2004 10:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


I actually agree with the previous blogger on the waiver fees. Major corporations should pay for their permits and the costs of security, small block parties and other small non-profits should still be exempted however.

As for the 10yr sunset -- it basically means "accountability" voters in this county/city are tired of voting "yes" for an increase in taxes to only see their money go down a blackhole -- this will continue to happen. Sunsets allow the voters to reconsider the plan -- and maybe make some small changes -- but if crime has gone down, which i suspect it would've they will vote to make it all permanent. When voters hear about this sunset provision they become more willing to accept the new tax -- Measure A had no such provision, and neither does Mayor Poopy's new plan.

December 02, 2004 11:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT you still didn't answer the question. That being what do you do when you hire i.e. 1, 000 more cops and at the end of 10yr plan you're gambling whether people will vote again for another tax hike. That's not good business. Someone needs to look at the other big cities and figure out how they keep all the officers with the residents per capita long term? Why do their politicans think more of law enforcement they our city? It's horrible to think that if we didn't have this mayoral election, NONE of these candidates would have said a word about public safety. Tony and Parks have been on city council for over a year and NOT ONE WORD about hiring more cops. Now all of a sudden they want to find a way to get more cops. They need to ALL THINK LONG TERM. WE can't have a quick easy fix.

December 02, 2004 11:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


I honestly don't think we can pass a plan without a sunset. I think voters would say -- its not worth losing a 1,000 cops to get a few dollars back. Is it risky yes, but its the only viable alternative.

Hahn has only given us EXCUSES we need more COPS.

Hahn gave only 10k -- when we know he can give more and raise more, while Antonio gave 500k. I don't think folks can question Antonio's priorities. He's only been on the council for a yr and half - Jim Hahn has been in city elected office for 20 yrs - without a single new COP to show for it.

December 02, 2004 2:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT I disagree with you. Hahn was giving us 320 officers which is a lot these days. Those losers who sit on city council oted NO. How the hell could these candidates keep saying that Hahn hasn't done his part when giving us 320 was right on the table and no one thought public safety was that important. Tony's plan sucks big time. Why should we help the county when the Supervisors just gave BAca a couple of million frm that $319 million they were sitting on and happen to find when Measure A failed? tony is crazy to think that LA will wait til 2006. Officers are retiring and we're not hiring at the same pace so eventually we're going to fall further behind. Bitter Bernie is going to make us lose probably another 1,000 if he doesn't SHUT up and quick saying he's going to get rid of 3-12. No wonder why he lost all his key people of his campaign. I can't believe his so called "big time campaign people" are allowing him to make an ass out of himself in front of everyone. He's the joke of LA.

December 02, 2004 3:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Becareful with that 320 number -- if Hahn says it tonight i will personally skewer him for it. Thats not the actual number it a lot less -- the PPL has the best number along with roll call tallies the captains keep.

That 320 number is an LA Times number thats not based on an actual number, but a phony budget number.

I hear you on bitter bernie, but honestly he is playing a specific role during this campaign -- we all know what it is, and i am sure the other campaigns are thrilled bernie says what he says and does what he does. Does't make him right however.

As for Antonio's plan -- or anyone elses - they are all debatable -- buuut i am not a fan of the sales tax -- i think we can get what we want with an alcohol tax. And when you start to put an instrument together for initiatives you need tough accountability language for voters and the sunset clause is a way to do it. Perhaps there is a way to dilute it some, but its the only VIABLE alternative to me. If the previous blogger is upset that everyone else is offering their plans, then all i can say is, this is going to be a long campaign to you. I can tell you this now -- EVERY CAMPAIGN WILL DO THIS, its the nature of these things - get used to it its the norm.

The real fact is -- Hahn's had 4 yrs to fix this -- he hasn't thats why we are debating it - thats a reason to some to fire the incumbent.

December 02, 2004 3:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Little debate update for you guys -- looks like there's an NBC online (not scientific) but it has Villaraigosa well in the lead. With Hahn and Hertzberg trailing below -- interesting - i guess Hertzberg's interns got tired of clicking Hertzberg and deleting cookies all day.
www.knbc.com on the right side, scroll down. Plus this only counts til 7pm -- then NBC doesn't catalog it anymore, i called them, so all you anti-Antonio wackos who are late to this poll, you have an hour and half after that no one will pay attention, hahhaha.

Also -- notes for tonights debate -- because of the free for all style of the debate expect it to favor...drum roll please -- Chief Parks. I know you guys thought i'd say Antonio or even hertzberg -- but i can tell you right now - this debate is going to be between Parks and Hahn -- with almost everyone else staying out of the way. I suspect Alarcon will swing for the fences as well, but Parks will be the one going into every question, and every answer will begin with an attack on Hahn and his leadershipless agenda and the fact that he's sold LA to contributors.

I think the one point that Parks will also bring up is the fact that Hahn during this 9/11 era style of govt put his FUNDRAISER in charge of the ports, DWP and Airports. I think Parks will begin to punch Hahn in the nose for this and probably get the quote all the media stations use for the night.

I feel a little sorry Hahn....NOOOT

I think Hertzberg will talk about education -- and his sense of bringing govt back to the people. It will be a little hokey but will play well -- Hahn will try to say he is proud of his accomplishments and say crap like BRATTON this and BRATTON that. Antonio will be doing a little prevent offense/defense, i think he's saving his fireworks for when voters are really paying attention. I think hertzberg is doing the same, and will try to be the John Edwards of the debate and stay happy and positive, but sad of the city's current predicament.

Hahn -- he's a hot head, should NOT be underestimated - he is a robot and will say whatever Carrick and Kuwata have told him, mainly because he has no soul and can't speak freely like the others. My personal advice is to not get sucked into a direct debate with Parks -- you elevate him, and he slams you all day and night -- and you give the rest of the candidates (your real challenegers) a free pass to smile and say they love this city.

Alarcon -- ??? DWP rates, leaderless city, Hits HAHN HAHN -- his only surprise of the night will be if he attacks Hahn. The road to the run-off is through Antonio and the fact that he hasn't done much on this is a mystery to me.

December 02, 2004 5:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT....that 320 number of officers was on city council agenda as a motion last year when Hahn was putting forth his budget. That was the number of the proposed budget Hahn had for officers. 320....Look it up.

December 03, 2004 9:15 AM  

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