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Tuesday, May 06, 2008

District Attorney Steve Cooley announces changes in Jamiel Shaw Murder Case

Deputy D.A. Michelle Hanisee is out as the lead prosecutor in the Jamiel Shaw Murder Case.

Bowing to the pressure of the Shaw Family after comments by Hanisee, Cooley replaced Hanisee with Bobby Grace and Helene Danadina.

Speculation is still rampant about Shaw Jr. ties to any gang. District Attorney Steve Cooley was evasive when KFI's John and Ken press the issue which Hanisee broached in discussions with the Shaw Family that led to the rift between the two parties.

Cooley for his part reiterated that Pedro Espinosa not Jamiel Shaw Jr. would be the person on trail.

Jamiel Shaw Sr. appearing after Cooley, stated his satisfaction that Hanisee had been replaced.

Preliminary Hearing in this case is schedule for May 15.

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Anonymous Anonymous said:

Stupid. She's the best at getting convictions and was smart telling Shaw to get away from Wacko and the racial hating immigrant nuts. If Cooley lets Shaw run this 50 -50Espinoza walks. But the MS haters won't care. They got Wacko in the papers and a creepy law with not one chance in hell.

May 06, 2008 6:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The City will always smear the victim. An innocent child could be raped by a police officer and they will say the child was a prostitute, druggie, criminal, "was asking for it." That's just the way the City works. I'm glad the dad stood up for his dead son against the City.

May 06, 2008 6:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is County, a criminal trial, not a civil lawsuit from some brokie scrounging for money from the city.

The County DA doesn't "smear" its murdered victims or any victim. It proceeds with tough criminal prosecutions to win. County DA prosecutes gangs to bring them to justice. How does "smearing" the victims make that work easier?

Cooley, a conservative republican, put his best prosecutor on the case and he's being too decent about the mess with the victims gang colors. While you dumb people smear Cooley, the prosecutor Michelle, and give Shaw credit for probably goofing up the County's case.

I'll bet MAV is holding his breath for Saturday, when these nitwits rally with the hate groups. I'll bet the defense is standing by for that, too. I hope Shaw hasn't screwed it up so bad that this killer gets off if the defense plays the race card.

May 06, 2008 6:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bravo, Mr. Shaw!

You're basically the ONLY person in this County who was able to bring about positive change in the face of lying, cheating officials.

God bless the Shaw family in this horrible time in their lives. Good people who suffer at the hands of dirty, disgusting officials.

May 06, 2008 7:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:48 You're absolutely right. I don't think people know the difference between the City Attorney's Office and the District Attorney's Office. The D.A.'s job is to convict defendants; and that is nearly impossible if they're smearing their own victims. Retards.

This is just creating more of a mess for the prosecution to have to wade through. Good job. Can you say "m-i-s-t-r-i-a-l"?

The Defense attorneys are probably dancing on the tables tonight in sheer delight at all the spectacle. Keep piling it on.

Damn, you people are stupid.

May 06, 2008 7:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Perhaps it'd help if you'd have explained that the County (District Attorneys) prosecute FELONIES and the City (City Attorneys) prosecute MISDEMEANORS.

For the most part.

May 06, 2008 8:09 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Here's some additional info from the J&K segment on KFI:

L.A. District Attorney Steve Cooley called into KFI's John and Ken to comment on his meeting with Jamiel Shaw, Sr, and responded to Shaw's claims that the prosecuting attorney Michele Hanisee tried to impinge upon his first amendment rights by trying to have Mr. Shaw stop his talk of Jamiel's Law publicly, and if he dropped it; the prosecutor wouldn't make claims that Shaw, Jr. had gang affiliations.

Shaw, Sr. immediately was on KFI, KABC, KRLA radio shows telling his story and saying he was going to demand the prosecutor be pulled from the case and replaced with someone else.

Cooley started off the call to John and Ken by letting the people know that the prosecutor (Michele Hanisee) was replaced by two attorneys including Bobby Grace (who won a high profile case recently) and Helene Danadina.

Cooley says that he in no way, shape or form communicated this message to Michelle and says that she didn't say this and that he felt there was a communication breakdown.

Cooley went on to say, perhaps she was referring to not wanting to have the case moved to San Francisco(change of venue) if Shaw kept talking about Jamiel's Law, because it's possible it could become such a high profile political case, it's possible it could have to be moved, but said that isn't important compared to first amendment rights.

But here's what some folks have been waiting for:

Regarding the issue of police enforcement and Special Order 40 related issues, L.A. D.A. Steve Cooley said the issue needs "serious reform" and "serious retroflection." And said the City needed, "to make the improvements long overdue."

Regarding Jamiel's Law, Cooley said, "it seems a little broad, but is probably a model for the city to look at."

He also talked a bunch of legalese that backs up what ZD has been saying, that Special Order 40 already has what is needed to start doing the job people want done (regarding Jamiel's Law). It's a matter of enforcing what is already written.

Shaw Sr. is happy that Cooley made the replacement and added, "I could tell he (Cooley) was fair."

from ZumaTimes.com

May 06, 2008 8:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good thing Shaw Sr is happy. That means everything. Not that the case can get moved to San Francisco where the killer can get off, but the killer can get off easier here also, now that the defense got a couple of presents when Shaw called the DA's office "corrupt", and went on the radio to tell that the DA tried to "extort" him into silence.

Shaw Sr will still try to force Cooley that this case was a hate crime when truth was Shaw didn't or couldn't tell his kid to can the red accessories (unless it was more than that)so let's all watch breathless while Shaw Sr. rallies with the Wackos and the racists and maybe Espinoza gets 5 to 10 for aggravated assault because Shaw Sr. doesn't vet his own crowd, much less maybe his son's.

That story that the killer couldn't see Jamiel Shaw from the back is off, too. The killers had a car. They could have followed behind the victim before they decided to do the hit.

So the new prosecutor, in fear of his job, has to try this trumped up sack of crap about hate crime that makes no sense when red is bloods in Arlington Heights, but as long as Shaw Sr can exercise his free speech to pass harassing laws against hispanics he's happy.

I'm happy, too.

May 06, 2008 8:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You've got the Antonio race baiters on here spinning against the Shaws, Walter Moore now that the chickens come home to roost. Then idiot Mayor Sam blogger Zuam Dogg joins in.

Stupid white people!

May 06, 2008 10:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam blogger Zuma Dogg joins the idiot bloggers with Mayor Antonio.

May 06, 2008 10:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You've got the Antonio race baiters on here spinning against the Shaws

Victim was wearing red belt, carrying red backpack, and look closely at his photo for the red wristbands on each wrist. Maybe he gave twice to the American Red Cross?

That prosecutor said the suspect thought Shaw was in the gang. Its a logical conclusion and they got her fired off the case. The Shaws don't need Antonio Villar spinners against them. Shaws did good e-nuff work spinning against themselves.

May 06, 2008 10:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, good to see that there are still lots of haters still posting. Talk about what's lame.

Mr. Shaw's son is murdered and people want to dump on him because they think the first D.A. might have gotten her feelings hurt for her injudicious manner of discussing her opinions in the case.

She might have been anticipating defense strategy as a matter of looking at the whole picture, but that could be done to strongly where you are getting somebody ready for the big letdown you see coming. If she didn't have her heart in it, a change would be advisable.

The case is not reliant on any particular deputy D.A. handling a case in order to prevail. There have been enough murders by gangsters, unfortunately, for many of the DDA’s to become skilled at prosecuting the cases. The change here makes sense since the faith in the first prosecutor's intentions was irretrievably lost.

Some of the posts here look like people who want Espinoza to escape his just reward wrote them. The posts may even be written as a group effort. Mayor Sam or Zuma Dogg supports Mr. Shaw and that makes him bad or a wacko? Ideas like that are pretty low.

In the first place, the bad guy here is the shooter and he will always be the bad guy under any analysis or examination of the facts. Murder is never justified.

a CD-14 view.

May 07, 2008 1:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Give it a rest. You all look like clowns for cooking up this Jamiel's Law scam and LYING about the murder facts when this kid was possibly in the Bloods.

May 07, 2008 10:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Possibly in the bloods?

Try NHoods 20s/bps.
N Bloods, G, NOT Jungle.

But Wacko's still kickin it wit tha Higby Keystones.



May 07, 2008 12:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I agree with "CD-14 view," with the added comment that if Jamiel Shaw was gang-banging, as the racist commenters would have us believe, then he wouldn't have received as many trophys and awards as he did... plus being heavily recruited by major NCAA colleges and universities. The fact is, Jamiel Shaw didn't have an arrest record, unlike the present occupant of the mayor's office.


May 07, 2008 12:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Explanation for 6:03 post

The City threatened to smear the victim because the father supports Jamiel's law. The Mayor is against Jamiel's law because it's supported by Moore who is running to take the Mayor's job. That is why the City would want to smear the victim, to get his dad to drop support for Moore's new law and the attention Moore is getting.

My point was that the City will smear anyone they don't like for any reason. The City is smearing protestors by calling them "terrorists." The protestors marching up and down the street aren't the terrorists. The terrorists are the terrorists. A woman is suing the City for being locked up in the shelter and assaulted. In a Department meeting employees and their supervisors smeared the woman. This is what the City does.

May 07, 2008 1:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anonymous (And Clueless Mexican Hater) said...

if Jamiel Shaw was gang-banging, as the racist commenters would have us believe, then he wouldn't have received as many trophys and awards as he did

For starters, at least 1/4 of the USC football team is bangers.

... plus being heavily recruited by major NCAA colleges and universities.

Ballin', even college and pro ballin', is NOT a character reference. Where ya been?

The fact is, Jamiel Shaw didn't have an arrest record,

Many bangers don't. Mad Max is right about that.

unlike the present occupant of the mayor's office.

Wish you luck taking MAV out with this Jamiel's Law joke, 'cause the prosecutor and, more important, the DEFENSE have the proof that Shaw was banging. It's coming out in court. That D.A. probably told the Shaws it was better if it came from their side. Brace yourselves, Retards, it's coming...

May 07, 2008 1:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Thhis is County D.A. Your conspiracy nut comparison to the city is preposterous.

May 07, 2008 1:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There is nothing "creepy" about a law that seeks to identify and deport illegal gangbangers, whose disproportionate costs financially and in all aspects of society from public safety to schools to drugs is well documented.

BUT it's unfortunate that no one seems to be advising Shaw Sr., while his wife is in Iraq -- she's the more sympathetic public figure -- and Moore just isn't sophisticated enough in his support and arguments, as that exchange with Stanton at the Times showed.

Fact is, as Baca said all along, this was a hit put out in prison for Espinoza to execute soon as he got out, a war between 18th ST and the P Stone (black) gang. Jamiel just happened to live in the heart of that gang's area. When you've got a black vs. Hispanic gang, it's not a "hate crime." (Which is dumb anyway, since if it were white skinheads vs. blacks or Hispanics, the penalties should be the same.)

Pushing to make it a "hate crime" is beside the point and undermines Shaw's case that it's illegal GANGBANGERS that are the problem.

But attacking this goal as "creepy" or racist is far, far worse than his naivity in "advising" the D A's office on how to handle his case.

May 07, 2008 1:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Shaw Sr. may have gotten so rattled by the City people, from Alarcon and Rosendahl when he appeared at City Hall, to Bratton who speaks about anyone favoring a modification of SP40 or even clarification and using what little teeth it has for enforcement, as "immigration haters" (which is weird, makes him, a Police Chief, an illegal LOVER, even of gangbangers) -- that in HIS mind, the City Attorney and the D A are ALL the same, "the man," whatever.

He seems to have no representation and if Moore claims to be a lawyer, he's not doing a very good job.

May 07, 2008 2:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You know how crazy people sound, trying to get a law named after a Blood?

It's not a question of Mrs. Shaw being more sympathetic than Mr. Shaw. This was an exemplary Dad, but his son went the wrong way. It's sad but it happens too often.

Shaw Sr. lost sympathy by misrepresenting his son's murder. I don't blame him for wanting a law named after his gang banger son, it's his son and he's grieving, but he threw his weight around to bully one of Cooley's best prosecutors.

That D.A. stood ground and got fired. So what happens when everyone finds out that Jamiel Shaw was with the Neighborhood Bloods?

Does Shaw Sr. try to fire this D.A., too, so he and Wacko can promote their law that helps Black gang banger Bloods?

And Shaw libeled that D.A. I lost all sympathy, and respect, when they called in to that radio show with those awful lies about that woman.

I hope the new D.A. tells them to keep it on the down low because Jamiel's Law is finished. Most LA people would never vote for it, anyway, so good riddance.

But there is Jamiel's Murder Trial and Shaw's got to step aside. Let prosecutors do their job. Their real job, not what ever Shaw forces them to do, instead.

May 07, 2008 4:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anonymous said...

A woman is suing the City for being locked up in the shelter and assaulted. In a Department meeting employees and their supervisors smeared the woman. This is what the City does.

Grow up!! This is what defendants do to the plaintiff in a suit. Seventy five percent of the time it's true, too. A lot of goofballs that bringing bad lawsuits.

I'm not saying this particular case, because I'm not familiar with it, but we need court reforms!

I'm not inclined to condemn the city for defending themselves against these lawsuits. That is what I expect them to do, so glad to hear it, but it has nothing WHATSOEVER to do with Shaw.

May 07, 2008 4:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Shaw needs to get on message, message being...You ID with your gang homies and the rival gang comes for revenge, your getting your head blown off, more likely than not, and if you don't believe it check our dead gang banger here. An' even that crude message isn't as crude as what Walter and Shaw are trying to pull off, because that crude message is true. You're all looking for a way to make Jamiel Shaw's death meaningful? Stop spinning and get out the word.

May 07, 2008 6:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Re: Anonymous Over and Over and Over and Over Again

Stop spreading the rumor that Shaw was a gang member. If you have proof, post a link up, where's the proof? If he was a gang member don't you think that a) a number of gang-banger's would show up for his funeral and b) credible news source ie. more than "anonymous poster on blogspot 2 months after the fact" would've posted about it. I'd be willing to listen to it if it was logical.

Furthermore, it really doesn't matter what the shooter thought, since the point of Special Order 40 enforcement is that it takes the shooter off the street...

May 08, 2008 8:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Special Order 40 will be enforced because Bratton promised and I trust Bratton to do the right thing. Bratton doesn't want these gangs wacking each other any more than us, but that's what happened with Shaw. The ONLY thing that happened with Shaw.

Though Special Order 40 does not need to be changed, just enforced, and we certainly do not need the Jamiel's Law Bloods Gang Banger Law named for a Blood that helps out the Bloods. That's just crazy!

It's a tragic murder, but Shaw had a choice and he chose Bloods. Wacko looks like a total jackass.

May 08, 2008 10:09 AM  

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