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Monday, January 03, 2005

Hahn's Sewage Spills Forth

sewageTrue to his name, Mayor Poopy's got something stinky going on - an under the radar "proposal" to jack up sewer service charges. His minions will be presenting the plan at seven "community" meetings around town (listed below). The rationale is that the City was sued for environmental nonsense and this is part of the settlement.

  • Is this really a proposal citizens have a chance to comment on, or is it already a "done deal" that all of the meetings, hearings, etc. are for show and to satisfy legal requirements (Answer: Uh, the latter.)
  • Will these community meetings offer a chance for the people to be heard or will staff just drone on, be very patronizing and not listen to comments - if comments are even allowed. (Answer: Drone on. Also note the meetings are only scheduled for one hour and in most cases staff has to race across town to the next dog and pony.)
  • Can't someone sue the city for something useful like more police officers on our streets? (Answer: We can only hope.)
This is brought to you by the same people who wanted to give you "toliet to tap" water as well as the plan to dump a bunch of sewage on the ground at the Sepulveda Dam and called it a "wetlands park."

Perhaps the neighborhood councils will come through and block this one. The last thing people need - especially old people and poor people - is more taxes and charges. Or stinky water and parks.

Community Meetings
(for more information contact Amy Jones at 323.342.6233 or via e-mail at aljones@san.lacity.org.)
Saturday, January 8, 2005

10:30am to 11:30am - South Valley
West Valley Regional Branch Library
19036 Vanowen Street
Reseda, CA 91335

Saturday, January 8, 2005
1:30pm to 2:30pm - West L.A.
West Los Angeles Regional Branch Library
11360 Santa Monica Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90025

Saturday, January 15, 2005
10:30am to 11:30am - Harbor
San Pedro Regional Branch Library
931 S. Gaffey Street
San Pedro, CA 90731

Saturday, January 15, 2005
1:00pm to 2:00pm - South L.A.
Vermont Square Branch Library
1201 W. 48th Street
Los Angeles, CA 90037

Saturday, January 22, 2005
10:30am to 11:30am - North Valley
Lake View Terrace Branch Library
12002 Osborne Street
Lake View Terrace, CA 91342

Saturday, January 22, 2005
1:00pm to 2:00pm - East L.A.
Cypress Park Branch Library
1150 Cypress Avenue
Los Angeles, CA 90065

Saturday, January 29, 2005
10:30am to 11:30am - Central L.A.
John C. Fremont Branch Library
6121 Melrose Avenue
Los Angeles, CA 90038


Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is an old plan. When Hahn was battling the City Council a couple of years ago he lowered the sewer charge subsidy. (FYI: It costs the City around $30 bucks to pick up our trash and we get charged around $13-15 buck, hence the General Fund subsidizes the balance $17-15 bucks). By lowering the subsidy and asking the homeowners to pay for this service then other city services can be funded, i.e, more cops, so goes the argument.

During that budget crunch, I recall several councilmembers (Garcetti, Hahn, Pacheco, Padilla, Miscikowski) wanted to completed eliminate the subsidy over 5 years and transfer this money for more cops. Nate Holden challenged the initial reduction in subsidy and we haven't seen anything since.

I hope they all realize how this is going to hurt the poor.

January 03, 2005 9:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

THIS REALLY STINKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

January 03, 2005 10:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


January 03, 2005 10:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You think this is bad. Now the City is being sued by it's neighbor for the rediculous 11 billion dollar airport 'plan'. How much will that cost us in attorney fees and possible damages. GIVE IT UP HAHN !!!

January 04, 2005 8:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hahn and the City made the deal to pay off anyone conceivably who would sue about LAX, but how can you cover everyone? If some homeowner wasn't part of that deal, they could still try to sue.

Deal away dum dums.

January 04, 2005 8:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You want slamming here you go! The cop that Tony has on his website is not a real cop. So once again he is lying and misleading the public to pretend he has backing of officers. He hasn't responded to RECALL

January 04, 2005 10:00 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Hey dum dum since you know so much about a picture taken 4 yrs ago of a cop. Then what is his name???

Fact of the matter is you do not know what you are talking about so why dont you stop.

blog away dum dum.

January 04, 2005 11:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That picture was not four years ago Meat. If Tony doesn't have anything to hide and he's not misleading the public then what is the name of the LAPD officer on the website?

January 04, 2005 11:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"...it wasn't four years ago...", who came up with the idea of four years ago? It isn't on this post, now is it? You must now it was from four years ago to say that!

January 04, 2005 11:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Previous poster if you look up and read what Meat wrote you would see MEAT said the photo of cop was 4 years ago and I say it's not that old. What is the name of the LAPD officer (if he's real..I think he's an actor) name and division? If Tony has nothing to hide Meat what's the officer's name?

January 04, 2005 12:22 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

Once again posts about nothing to do with Tony Villar are turning into Tony Villar rants. This is about sewers people!

January 04, 2005 12:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Thanks Mayor Sam...Postings like the one's above lose sight of the ultimate question that is before us. If the people want to talk about Villaraigosa so much (and I don't blame MEAT for countering their attacks) then why don't they ask you to post on an issue or go elsewhere. There is substance to this issue. Let's talk about the overall impacts this will have on the ratepayers in Los Angeles. The neighborhood councils have an opportunity to flex some muscle just like they did during the DWP rate hike. Their involvement at the least results in some action to explain the decisionmaking at City Hall.

Oh, and the Sepulveda Wetlands idea, as pretty as it looked during the presentations, is not needed. The Bureau of Sanitation itself said it was not needed to reduce the high levels of nitrate and nitrite being released into the LA River. Tillman can increase its capacity to reduce the federally and state-mandated levels. The wetlands is an experiment in a recreation area that the community does not need. We need sports fields and open space...not swamps

January 04, 2005 8:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think a swamp would be a great idea! Let's put it behind City Hall... the James Hahn Swamp.

January 05, 2005 6:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The swamp will probably be the only thing the City of LA names after the Mayor...well we could also name the Sunshine Canyon Landfill after Riordan and Hahn.

January 05, 2005 9:26 AM  

Blogger CD14Lover said:

I would like to name a gang after Mayor Hahn because he is literally cauisng the deaths of many young people in CD14 by not having a crime plan to reduce gang violence and has not brought any new resources to the LAPD. The funny thing is that he probably will not take credit for the only thing he can really take responsibility for doing. He usually tends to do nothing. I hear he has an empty schedule most of the time. Can we make a request for his schedule the past four years?

January 05, 2005 4:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

CD14Lover sounds like you should be talking to your councilman Antonio. Zine did a lot for his district in the valley with LAPD so did Garcetti. Your councilman should have some responsibility so why hasn't he said one word about it?

January 05, 2005 6:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well not to disappoint you but despite the fact that violent crimes are down in CD3 (Zine's district) we have seen a lot of burglaries and robberies as of late. CD 12 & CD 7 have the problems with violent crimes in the SFV. It's not just CD 14. It's everywhere in Los Angeles. We need more cops who are well-trained and well-equipped to handle these problems.

January 06, 2005 2:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Meat and CD14LOver. this is what your bright candidate said to press today after getting minor endorsement....A clean environment is the foundation of a livable community," the Eastside councilman said during a news conference outside the Department of Water and Power's downtown headquarters. "It's not a luxury. It is a necessity." What a lame ass! Doesn't he know that public safety is what makes a community livable. All he knows how to do is pick up a broom

January 06, 2005 4:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you're attacking that comment you're damn desparate. He's right! And since when are public safety and a clean environment mutually exclusive? You try swimming in polluted waters and see how good you feel later on. Have your kids play on contaminated brown fields and ask them how they feel when they're undergoing chemotherapy . . . IF they're covered under medical insurance. Great . . . so you're not shot but your kid with asthma is living in one of the smoggiest cities in the world. YOU'RE A LAME ASS!

January 06, 2005 4:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Do you live in a community that is surronded by 3 gangs? I didn't think so. Tell your stupid comments of clean environment to those parents who kids have to pass by drug dealers and gang bangers threatening them if they don't give up their school money.

January 06, 2005 6:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The blog was about the city's proposal to jack up sewer service charges...Was anyone paying attention in class today? Like usual, none of you are paying attention so why don't you go stand in the corner until your ready to participate. Blog away!

January 06, 2005 9:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

As a matter of fact I do! Have you had someone murdered directly next door to your home by gang members? I have! Have you had liquor store robbers hiding in your yard only to have the police brake through your home to arrest them? I have. Have you been held up with a gun pointed at your head by gang members in the middle of the day cause they're tryin' to get drug money? I have!

I don't want gangs OR environmental hazards in my community. And I certainly don't want some punk-a$$ telling me to choose which one I have to live with!

January 06, 2005 9:10 PM  

Blogger CD14Lover said:

I too think they should not be mutually exclusive. This Mayor has not made a priority of neither. Councilman Villaraigosa has only beenin office for almost two years. It is hard to say what he has or has not failed to do. But if you bring facts I will listen.

As it relates to this blog, the lakes in the City are in bad condition especially the one at Hollenbeck Park. I know other like Echo Park and Hansen Dam are alomst as equally bad. Since I know the Mayor has not made it a priority or a low priority, it is not even on his radar screen. What have the other Councilmembers, especially Antonio done to bring resources to fix the problems with the city park lakes that double as storm drains?

January 07, 2005 11:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Here's the reality CD14Lover:

Lots of these projects are multi-million dollar ones and generally span several years to complete. For example - NE San Fernando Valley has a major watershed project that has County and State involvement. Because of its size, it'll take 10 years to complete.

Now with the storm drain bond just passed, I'm certain that Councilman Villaraigosa will fight to get some of that money allocated to stormwater run-off for CD14 and Hollenbeck. But without money, there's no council person who can get any such project.

January 07, 2005 12:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

From: DWP Rascal
Hah, if the citzens knew what the true cost of services is they'd fire all these arrogant, self- serving politicians. Want the truth? Unbundle all costs, spread the revenue to all City agencies, charge for the difference. Then see what happens. We'll have admission fees for parks, libraries & every other "free" service. And probably a change in leadership.

January 09, 2005 11:40 AM  

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