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Sunday, July 10, 2011

Noel Weiss "RIPS" Ron Kaye over Janice Hahn post

 Former 2009 City Attorney Candidate and City Councilwoman Janice Hahn's "Political Apologist" Noel Weiss
How Noel Weiss views Janice Hahn 24-7.
Dedicated to Noel's infatuation of all-things Janice Hahn, "OHHH NOEL!!"
That means for former City Attorney Candidate and noted Janice Hahn Kool-Aid Drinker Noel Weiss, when someone like Ron Kaye tells Congressional Candidate and the current "Reigning Blond of the City Council", "stick to being sweet, charming and ditzy, and get a new lawyer", in his recent post on Hahn's "Gattoesque tactics against Fox News, who comes along, puffing machismo pronouncements in sharp rebuke to Kaye? Janice Hahn's "Norman".

Read Noel's "SSSCCCRREEEEEEE" after the jump.

By Noel Weiss on July 8, 2011 1:42 AM
This is complete trash. . . . I invited you to the Watts Gang Task Force meetings over the years on at least 4 (maybe more) occasions. . . You never showed. . . . You don't appear to care one iota what goes on in the inner-city Ron. . . . If you think you are not impacted by what happens on this side of the hill, in Watts (where nary a positive story is communicated by any media) think again.
So let's understand this Ron. . . All of a sudden, gang members are more credible than Janice Hahn. . . . I find it beyond incredible that in your zest to trash Janice Hahn you have stooped to the level of accepting the word of gang members over Janice Hahn. The next time a gang member says they are innocent, are you going to leap to their defense and believe their story? If not, why not?
The Fox News story has buried within it the seeds of its own lack of credulity. It is 'trash' journalism. . . It is phony journalism. A truly inquiring reporter would ask Chief Beck or Chief Bratton why something like this (if true) would have occurred. A thoughtful reporter would inquire of Chief Beck or Chief Bratton why they support the Watts Gang Task Force; what kinds of law enforcement techniques are required to develop trust between the people and the police. . . and ask them whether Janice Hahn's efforts in Watts to reduce Gang Violence have been successful.
They didn't to that because they don't like the answers they would get. Those answers are that we can't arrest our way out of the gang problem; that the Watts Gang Task Force has been successful at saving lives; that Janice Hahn's efforts have been incredibly positive, constructive, citizen empowering, and that but for Janice Hahn's leadership, none of the positive results (which continue to go unreported) would have been possible.
That would be 'balanced' Ron. . . But it's not coming from from Fox News however because Fox News has a political agenda . . . to promote Republicans and conservatives; and it now appears you also have one. . . To elect Craig Huey. . . . now a favored Republican. . . on whose behalf you choose to shill.
Ron, you are so incredibly ignorant about this subject., you have no business rendering an opinion. You diminish yourself in the process. . . I have been a member of the Watts Gang Task force for the past 5 years. . . They meet every Monday at Janice Hahn's Watts office with LAPD, members of the community, and local government. I have probably attended over 100 meetings over the years.I do know what I'm talking about.
Chief Beck. .. and former Chief Bratton would never say nice things about Janice Hahn if what you imply is true and what this story implies is true. Both have spoken with high praise of Janice Hahn and her efforts with the Watts Gang Task Force in particular, and with reducing gang violence in general. Janice Hahn's efforts have saved lives. . . .
You know why the Watts Gang Task Force works Ron? Because to lessen crime and defeat the attempt by the gangs to rape and pillage communities, the citizens have to be empowered and an element of trust has to be built between the police and the people. It is a real-live 'Tipping Point' (as in Malcolm Gladwell's 'The Tipping Point').
That's what the Watts Gang Task Force has done and that's what Janice Hahn has done. . . reduce crime, empower the people of Watts to gain greater control over their lives. . . and engender greater trust between the police and the people.
Meanwhile, homicides are down significantly in Watts. . . gang violence is down significantly in Watts. That's a good thing Ron. . . . . If you had demonstrated some class and come to one or more Task Force meetings, you would see how incredibly stupid, inane, false, and contrived this Fox story is. . .
I'll do you one better Ron. . . Many of LAPD top brass (Commanders and Captains) had the cell phone numbers of known gang members. . . and the gang members had (and probably still have) the cell phone numbers of former gang members.
So let's look at this another way. Let's say Fox News decides to go after LAPD brass as soft on crime or being 'in bed' with the gangs. . . The 'game' would be to play racial politics and inflame the divisions with the old stereotypes. The story line would be contrived and created to give that appearance by saying that the brass is 'close' and 'cuddly' to the gangs because they are in constant communication with them. . The cell phone exchange proves it . Obviously false. . . but it leaves the appearance of police cooperating with known gang members. . . The same 'charge' being leveled (falsely) at Janice Hahn.
The facts are that Janice Hahn's efforts have saved lives in Watts. . . An element of trust, communication, and cooperation has been created. . . Now here comes Fox and Ron Kaye to divide the people yet again. . . All for political gain so a Republican can get elected. . . .
Beyond pathetic.
Shameful and shameless Ron. . . .
These "charges" are over three years old. . . They are discredited. . . . They are false. . . They are phony.
Just ask Chief Beck. . . or former Chief Bratton. . . Something Fox News never did because it would undermine the theme of their phony story. . . .
I'm disappointed in you Ron. . . . As a former editor you are supposed to demonstrate some thought and discretion. . . . You failed to do so in this situation.
The problem with most of our political leaders (and the media) is that they seek to divide rather than unite. The fact that you have chosen to pass on this piece of trash diminishes your stature, your competence, and whatever commitment you have (or had) to objectivity.
You owe Janice Hahn and anyone looking for basic objectivity, fairness, and competence an apology.
If you really care about this subject, then I will ask again Ron. . . Come to a Watts Gang Task Force Meeting. . . 10:00 am, every Monday at Janice Hahn's office in Watts (103rd and Compton) . . . Ask questions and inform yourself before passing on partisan 'trash' like this.
Noel Weiss

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Blogger Bill Haller said:

Red Spot, other headline options could be:
"SLAP Creator Punched In Face!"
"Lawyer Letter K.O.'s Kaye!"

Yours is good, too.

July 10, 2011 9:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall reading anything on this blog or anywhere about the good things the task force is doing. Maybe there is an op ed that the chief wrote.

Help me out.

July 10, 2011 10:12 PM  

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July 11, 2011 9:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you finished reading Noel Weiss's comments, then you now know why he managed to finish last in the election for City Attorney.

The guy cannot stop talking or writing.

July 11, 2011 3:58 PM  

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July 11, 2011 4:03 PM  

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