Bring It On Union Busters, Bring It On!
Posted by Unknown @ 2/18/2011 02:00:00 AM
Friday, February 18, 2011
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Joe,
These fools don't want to pay a NICKEL for their benefits.
They were asked to pay HALF of what we pay in the private sector.
I guess you still misunderstand what a job in the public sector is supposed to be. Greater security for lower wages.
People like Obama twisted it into the behemoth it is now.
Average, AVERAGE federal wages are DOUBLE what they are in the private sector.
This is why Wisconsin, California and so many other states are on the verge of bankruptcy.
Pensions.
Public Pensions.
Watch, it's coming to California, and I say hallelujah!
These protestors should've accepted paying part of their benefits.
By the way, national unemployment in February is 10%
It's a myth (promoted by the unions themselves) that union either created the "middle class" or that they even begin to represent a major portion of it anymore.
If anything, the inflation of unskilled labor to middle class, or even upper middle-class wages has done more harm to the actual middle class by pricing services (including govt. services) out of reach so much that outsourcing has become more attractive to corporate purse-holders.
The stupidity of the union members is astounding.
If they give up $20 or so per paycheck, they will actually help prevent their pensions from getting dismissed altogether if the state(s) go bankrupt.
Penny-wise, pound stupid.
Watch and you'll see.
Nasty bit of union busting going on at the LA DA's Office. According Berger's stealth Los Angeles Dragnet blog, the DA's union managed to lose a major case brought by one of the union members who noticed that the union did not hold proper elections or follow their own bylaws. The union lost at trial, and then again when their delay tactic appeal lost. They now appear to have a $160k legal fees bill, and the union is trying to rush through a "closed shop" under the noses of members, to force all deputy DAs to pay the bills.
http://losangelesdragnet.blogspot.com/ to stop the union busting.
Oh, and BTW, this is a very "pro-labor" union. They even endorsed right-wing wackjob John Eastman for Attorney General. He's a real pro-labor guy.
Joe, what do you think of Phil Jennerjahn's broken-hearted man-crush on Rick Perry?
http://thejennerjahnreport.blogspot.com/2011/02/how-rick-perry-crushed-my-dreams.html
I wish we could pass a similar bill in California. To be realistic, I would be happy with major increases in employee contributions for now.
The days of freebies are over. The rest of us cannot support the current olans and pay for services.
Public employee unions, and specifically these selfish ass munching protesters, need be quiet.
The GOV is saying pay your pension (something they don't pay for now), pay more for your health care, though less than private employees pay, and somehow logical thinking people are suppose to think there's something wrong with this?
50% of those in unions in this country, 12M union workers in this country, are public employees.
The unions aren't under attack. They are under COUNTERATTACK for fleecing the remaining 90% of American tax payers that have been ass banged for over 20 years by this selfishness.
come on joe, for once, just ONCE, use your smart and logic, and not your partisan heart.
Ya Joe...."rent a mobs" are really about the "people"......Wise up!!
"The AVERAGE federal wages are DOUBLE what they are in the private sector"... uhhh no, i think your a liar and you cant back that up. And please dont reference your lame O right wing spin sites.
What we all need to do is do what corporate America wants us to break the unions, yea break them so profits go up, and wages go down. That will show them! Thats what we all need LOWER WAGES! Maybe CEO's and trust fund babies will wave to me from their BMW's as i pick garbage off their trash piles to feed my family.
Your all brainwashed. Get a life and join a union. Maybe you will earn a real wage some day.
1202......"join a union, and lean on your shovel" Ever seen a city union crew at work?? 12 guys standing around one guy who is actually working. Your nothing but a union hack!
The worst union misuse has to be in the Hollywood studios where you need a union card anyway you turn a screw you need a card to turn left and another card to turn right
Fooled again. The Wall-Streeters managed to distract the public from the consequences of their national greed and gluttony fest. Is it that they're "too big to fail" or that the public is that easily taken for a ride? Come on, now. Would we even be talking about unions or pensions if the economy hadn't have been sabotaged by the Wall-Streeters?
I'll tell you what; let's call the bluff. Let's go back to the days of no lunch break, no workers compensation, no child labor laws, no overtime pay after 40 hours weeks, no minimum wage, no laws against sex discrimination, age discrimination, religious discrimination or disabilities in the workplace, no equal pay for equal work, no workplace safety laws and no laws about health conditions in the workplace. How about it? Any takers?
Meanwhile, the right-wingers patron saint, Palin, is cleaning out on speaking fees even as she espouses more nonsense to ignorant fools.
Finally, something GOOD comes out of WisCANsin.
Unlike Phil Jennerjahn, who is from WisCANsin.
LA LOOK AROUND YOU PEOPLE ARE STANDING UP FOR THEIR RIGHTS AND WORKING TOWARDS REAL FREEDOM. IT'S YOUR TIME TO JOIN THE GROWING CROWD FROM CAIRO TO WISCONSIN. DON'T BE RUN INTO THE GROUND BY UNION GROUPS.
12:02... do you know why only 11% of the work force is unionized? less than 6% if you take out govt employees... because companies that were unionized went BANKRUPT.
So if I understand you correctly, though, you are saying that individuals should receive a pension without contributing a $? And same with health care costs?
So you're ok with government giving special privileges on top of higher wages to employees being paid by tax dollars?
Meanwhile, in the private sector (90% of the workforce) should be footing the bill not only for their own retirement & healthcare but for the unfirable teachers and govt employees as well?
What I also like is the govt of WI is saying pay for your pension and health benefits or expect layoffs. What the hell are you union folks arguing about? You'd rather lose your job? I for the life of me can't understand where you are coming from if you support this, unless you're lazy and a moron.
What the fuck ever happened to this country? We've become a spoiled, lazy, uneducated population. Gone are the days when everyone wanted to put in a hard days work, ask we get what we deserve and nothing more or less. Now, we want to work less and get paid more, and ask someone else (the person working harder and getting paid more) to foot the bill.
If this was just about pensions, healthcare contributions and balancing the budget there wouldn't be 30,000 people protesting in Wisconsin. Gov Walker wants to bust the unions, plain and simple. If it was just about the budget, then why did Walker give out over $150 million in tax breaks soon after he was elected?
If the public sector hired illegal aliens as the privet sector then the public sector would be on equal footing with the privet sector
Joe B - the pension and benefit costs are part of a structural deficit that is draining state and city treasuries year after. $150 million in tax credits are largely short-term breaks (two years). I'm not in favor of them, but don't cloud the issue by using them as ammunition against stopping selfish unions from burdening the taxpayers with the cost of their very generous benefits. Taxpayers have a right to say "no" to perrenial gifts to union hogs.
Like I said, if Walker wanted to balance the budget he wouldn't have given the tax breaks. And the unions are more than willing to talk about the numbers, Walker wants to take away collective bargaining. It's not going to happen.
Walker is a Communist, plain and simple- just like Hatfield and the lot of you.
Advocating taking from a more affluent group (state workers), to "equalize" it with the proletariat (private sector). Shame on you.
And hypocrites too. Since when did y'all start supporting taking money away from people to support the state? Isn't that TAXATION?
1042 - I suppose that's why I find myself humming the Internationale.
Willie Brown now admits unions are the problem for the state's fiscal woes.
Get this through your thick skulls, union members: your "voice" in the government is the same as mine. You "speak" though elected representative, just as I do. You do NOT "speak" though union representatives and here's why: the Unions, in and of themselves, don't VOTE and, thereof, have no representation available to them, other than through lobbying, just as I, or any other individual or group does! You don't get special representation in government, representation that no one else can have. That's not how a Constitutional Republic works. Our voices are supposed to be equal (isn't that what you keep telling us?). Apparently, union members are more equal than anyone else in America. Well, that is soon coming to an end, and rightly so.
Say goodbye to your special treatment, fellow citizens. You don't deserve it, and you shouldn't have it. Remember: All citizens are equal, even union members.
Oh, and don't forget, for each and every one of you union members who refuse to work (out of "protest," none the less), there are 20 Ameicans who are ready, willing, and able to take that job from you any time it's available. They won't care if it's a "Union job" or not. They just want a job and they're willing to WORK for it!
Paul H; Gov Walker can't contribute to the budget deficit and then turn around and expect employees, who had nothing to do with the tax giveaways he signed, to give up what it took years and years of hard fought legal bargaining to get. He refuses to sit down with the unions and address these issues, because it's not about the deficit; it's union busting, plain, simple and obvious.
As for this "structural problem"? This is double speak for incompetent, negligent mismanagement of funds. This is the terminology that the LA CAO and City leadership expect us to buy into, also. Only, we know better.
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