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Friday, January 21, 2011

Outtakes from CD 14 Special Report: Photos and Comments from Glassell Park Candidate Forum

"Why are they still talking about Listgate? Maybe because some on the Glassell Park Improvement Association were offended by their score?" Councilman Huizar was jeered by the audience later in the forum when he attempted to laugh off question on Listgate.

"Attentive crowd that grew bigger as the candidate forum commenced". Councilman Huizar's staff and campaign entourage inflated crowd that was 60-40 for Rudy Martinez. We also had a Downtown News Editor and "Scribe of Wit" Jon Regardie sighting. Did anyone see one Michael "MEAT" Trujillo?

"Councilman Huizar's "Staff Pack". Body language is indicative of how the candidate forum went for their boss". One Eagle Rock staffer in this picture was observed submitting questions to the moderator. Question, how many staffers are in this photo?

Memo to Councilman Huizar's Campaign Manager Michael Trujillo, how do you spin the fact that Huizzy did not know anything about the CRA/LA controversy to transfer $1 billion++ into a city non-profit agency? Second, explain how Councilman Huizar transfers $1 million+ from the CLARTS Fund for salaries, when he tells audiences members that him and his staff have taken a 10% pay cut, mixed with furlough days?

City Council Candidate Rudy Martinez showed marked improvement from his initial foray into the world of political forums/debates. Audience warmed to the responses of Martinez as the forum evolved. Martinez was asked once about the badge issue (planted by a Huizar staffer?) and used the question to expouse his steadfast support for LAPD. The Martinez Campaign would be advised to take advantage of their candidate's strong performance last evening and ask Councilman Huizar to answer for his lack of knowledge of the current CRA Controversy. Further, elaborate on how a councilman transfers $1 million dollars for salaries, from a community amenities fund, but yet cites that he and his staff have taken a 10% cut in pay. The political math here is questionable and merits further investigating.

Your thoughts..............
Scott Johnson in CD 14

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Anonymous Anonymous said:

Rudy kick ass last night.

January 21, 2011 10:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Every time Huizar opened his MOUTH you can see the lies that came out.

January 21, 2011 10:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


If by "rudy kick ass" you mean his own, yes.

The man just can't help it. He has two mantras now, which only two debates into the game, are already getting SOOO tedious

"transparent" and "problem solver" - neither of which he is, but pandering helps.

January 21, 2011 11:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Huizar's staffers are also taxpayers and often CD14 constituents, by the way, but I think you need to check your hearing aids.

Jeering by the crowd? Not even as close to the truth as you occasionally get. At best, inaudible heckling from 6-8 people scattered around, all of them anti-Huizar since he ran against their boy Tricky Nicky 6 years ago. Can't be helped; they can't be saved. (Pacheco is still agitating in the background like some deposed tinhorn dictator that thinks he'll someday get his "throne" back, even if it is vicariously through Rudy Rich)

One old woman who cackled and crowed the entire time, who was "offended" by her -2 score -- was from BOYLE HEIGHTS - and most likely will be at every forum. Keep counting her heckling as a "groundswell" of Rudy support -- I REALLY hope you do. (And, she was probably rated a -2 because she can't keep from interrupting the speakers and host, tourrette's-like, to save herself). People like that aren't "supportive" of anything except their own hurt egos.

A 60-40 pro Rudy crowd? Geez, what malarky. I've seen the LISTS and Huizar's endorsement list and a good number of them were in the room. They just behaved more civilly.

Many of Huizar's supporters where I live have told me they just don't feel the need to attend these events -- they see nothing worth considering in Rudy Rich's experience to make them reconsider their plans to vote for Huizar. If anything, Rudy's latest tactics have stiffened their resolve.

(Which is ALSO what Rudy's people heard over and over when they tried to use the stolen lists for prospecting support - then had to resort to the geriatric roll call of "endorsements" now on their materials.)

If you really believe Huizar's staff heavily inflated the crown - and there were no more than 100 people total in the room, including 3-4 cops, Rudy's family and volunteers... then the net number of voters in the room that could be swayed one way or the others was a couple dozen at best.

There were nearly as many people at the last forum, in much. much smaller community. Plus, I would have estimated the previous week's crowd at about 90-10 Huizar. So, where does that leave you?

Quite a few of the people I know in the Glassell Park crowd are GP residents who actually live in CD13, and they were just there for the ride, the "thrills" of seeing new mudslinging, and to support the host organization they belong to.

Nah, nah, nah. If your boy Rudy is hanging his chances on getting 4-5 new converts from each regional forum, and knocking on doors to "promises" from people (who almost never vote), that they WILL vote for him, he'll be lucky to duplicate Alvin "Doh" Parra's 29 percent of the vote.

VERY lucky.

January 21, 2011 11:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Waiting for Huizar spinners. Huizar had more staffers in that meeting then any community meetings they fail to show up to in CD14 has seen in years. Huizar stumbled too many times. He keeps stating his accomplishments like Boyle Heights Bridges but the fact is its taken too many years to get done. Every thing he says took way too long and ask the constituents still not done. Huizar, Garcetti, Reyes to blame for out of control marijuana shops now having homicides and robberies. Huizar lied about Measure B solar ballot measure, lied about trash fee hike, votes to support DWP when community members have opposed raised and fee hikes Huizar votes against the people

January 21, 2011 11:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Hoser, where were the Golden Girls (Cubas/$145, Jessica/$125k, and Francine/$125k) last night? Nearly half a million dollars just doesn't buy you what it used to - or were they busy shredding the latest version of "LA LISTA"?

January 21, 2011 11:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Republican Rudy Rich showed his true colors last night. Doesn't know a thing about how the City works yet claims he can fix it. What a joke of a candidate.

January 21, 2011 11:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You check Huizar for a CRA issue, but not the fact that there were many, many questions Rudy had to dance around, or just mimick Huizar's response, if he spoke first.

(And if your reply is Huizar is already in office and so he knows more, then you make my point. The learning curve with Rudy, who not only doesn't know now, but hasn't even been involved in his OWN community with serious issues before now, will be astronomical.) He is perhaps the least knowledgeable candidate to appear before the people of CD14 in decades - and that INCLUDES the 18-year-old chick who ran a few years ago.

He has no clue about most issues in the community.

His redundant answer to nearly all issues is: "we'll work together" or, "I can fix this" (whatever the hell it is), blah, blah, blah.

PLUS, several other laughers... Rudy saying, "I'll fix that when I'm in office" - and Huizar following with - "It's already fixed".

January 21, 2011 11:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

He reminds me of Sarah Palin. There's no there there. Huizar may not be ideal but at least he knows how to get things done. This site is all attack-attack-attack but Old Huizzy has done some great things for Boyle Heights where I live.

January 21, 2011 11:46 AM  

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January 21, 2011 11:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Those of you who think Rudy is this "man of the people" and one of us, should have heard his answer to Council salaries...

Like our dejected DA, he'll unapologetically claim it all. He's "taking a pay cut" he says.

He'll take EVERY penny, and he said nothing even about cutting his own salary by 10 percent, like Huizar did. Get it? Rudy will get paid about $20K MORE than Huizar.

$180,000 for a guy with a high school degree (and multiple criminal convictions)... Nice work if he could get it... but he can't.

January 21, 2011 12:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Boy, there's a reason Scott doesn't do journalism for pay.

This is NOT how the meeting last night went by a long shot.

Huizar was relaxed, confident, knew answers, and turned what opposition was there into jokes and non-issues. He even made Rudy laugh a couple times, and actually answered the uncomfortable ones to his advantage.

Classic example: 'You've done nothing for Glassell Park!'

Huizar: "I disagree, and when my last field deputy here left recently, you all told me he did a great job and got a lot done for you - so that's just wrong' (Loud, longest-lasting applause from the actual GP people in the audience.)

In contrast, Martinez looked lost when most of the serious issue questions were read. The more embarrassing ones, he dodged. He repeated himself constantly, instead of actually answering questions - just as he had done the week before.

(You would think with another week to study Northeast issues, he would have done some cramming to avoid that this time. Even reading one of the local blogs for an hour or so would have given him some idea of important issues... but, no!)

No, but this is enlightening. Sometimes I just have to accept Red Spot's version of events, because I wasn't there -- but seeing the acrobatic twists and turns he posts on this one that I did attended, I know he can't be trusted to provide any real facts here.

January 21, 2011 12:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think you misread the Huizar staff body language, too

It's got to be tough to put in full days, try to do your job right, butt heads with City bureaucracy and cranky constituents who want it all NOW, and then attend late night meetings where your efforts to fix things are constantly being beaten up publicly by gadfleas and clueless opponents.

Most likely what you see is "Geez, here we go again, getting beat up by the same 6-7 haters who wouldn't be happy if Huizar, or any other councilman could work miracles in front of them."

January 21, 2011 12:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


I attend many local meetings, and Huizar staffers are often, but not always at them. Their presence isn't always needed at some, because often there's nothing city-service related to be discussed.

I recognized many of the ones there last night for just that reason - because of seeing them at multiple community events through the last several years.

(I'm betting that's how Scott Johnson also knew that's who they were, to point them out, and take their picture. How else?)

Here's a question back. . . do you actually INVITE Huizar's staffers to your community meetings, and let them know far enough ahead of time so they can attend? Do you discuss issues they can actually help with - and let them know that's what you're discussing, so it makes sense for them to be there?

I'm betting you don't - and, they're not mind readers. Many community meetings in the district are barely public, and scheduled on top of each other.

They often have to choose between attending a meeting, or a meeting where "we-four-and-no-more" cry and moan about the same imagined slights, month after month. If 99 percent of the people affected by the outcome of these meetings don't even know they're taking place (often the case), then CD14 staff members can probably get a better read on the community's real issues somewhere else, anyway.

January 21, 2011 12:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

As the truth unfolds, you will find that Huizar has not only kept a list on his constituents, but he has used City resources against his enemies.

He has LAPD officers working for him. He has detectives fixing investigations for him. Just look at his connections to Hollenbeck and Central divisions. Lt Paul Vernon, spoksman for the Central Division even has a Linkedin page selling his consulting services to anybody that wants Police "ethics" training. Seriously what is wrong with that picture? Now, look to see how much CD14 money was transfered to consultants, like Officer Vernon. Any LAPD officer that shows up on a list as "Supportive" of this sleazeball councilman should be investigated. Even if Sleazar manages to make it through this next election, I would place money on him not making it through his next term. I'm betting he is going to take the Mayor down with him.

And where are the downtown lists? I'm starting to wonder if maybe he just gave everyone downtown a "0" score for influence and moved on. Downtown needs to be united under a single councilperson, and that is not Huizar.... nor anyone else from CD14 if they are just going to ignore the neighborhood and give the streets to his friends.

January 21, 2011 12:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


"As the truth unfolds, you will find that Huizar has not only kept a list on his constituents, but he has used City resources against his enemies."

Yeah, yeah... I'll watch for that. Once again, accusations with no proof -- easy to do, easy to fool the simple-minded, the geriatric Rudy "endorsers", and the haters.

I'm sure that "unfolded truth" will be an "exclusive" here, because this will be the only place it appears (for the simple reason that it's not true, and is just wishful thinking from the Huizar haters).

I'll watch REAL hard, but I won't lose any sleep.

FUNNY, though, and related. The EGP story this week that both Red Spot and I referenced earlier has a headline that says "MUDSLINGING" starts in CD-14 race. The story is about 90 percent on coverage of Rudy's recent unproven, fact-less allegations against Huizar.

EGP, the most widely distributed local paper in the district, writing "news" not commentary calls what Rudy is doing, just what it is, from the first line.

MUD·SLING·ING (-sliŋ′iŋ)

- the practice of making unscrupulous, malicious attacks against an opponent, as in a political campaign

- (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) casting malicious slurs on an opponent, esp in politics

- An attempt to destroy someone's reputation: smear, smear campaign.

(pretty much every definition of that word boils down to FALSE, malicious charges by an opponent)

Thank you, EGP publications, a non-biased news publication that has in the past endorsed both Huizar and Pacheco... it couldn't have been summed up any better.

(Oh yes, Huizar gets a couple quick sentences at the end -- also mudslinging, someone will say. But go back to the definitions. Rudy's criminal convictions are a FACT, and his unethical business practices are on TAPED cable television, etc.)

January 21, 2011 1:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


It is pretty funny how many people here and at meetings say that Huizar's staff never attends their meetings, yet those same complainers always seem to know who the staffers are, by sight, and run to them to complain more.

And often the staffer even knows the names of the people complaining, already.

How is that possible? It's not like their pictures are up on the city website, and the complainer memorized them.

It can only be that they have met them at community meetings before, maybe multiple times... those same community meetings that the complainers said they "never attend."

(These logical explanations mean nothing to the Rudy crowd, but that's okay. At least they'll learn that most of us just aren't buying the bilge.)

January 21, 2011 1:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The TRUTH will unfold despite the spin doctors, because the people are better connected than ever before and are SHARING information. Got that Huizar???

PEOPLE ARE TALKING...especially your staff! For those of you backing Huizar, are you willing to bet your careers, your time, and your cash that the rest of us are lying and that we have NO influence? This is not just about Huizar, it is about the corrupt machine he is working for. He does not work for CD14. He works for a corrupt political organization.

I normally do not post here. I am not a paid consultant. I do not even live in CD14. How many of you posting, have actually taken cash from Huizar, or his staff. How many of you have gotten the inside track on a "hot" real estate deal? Been bailed out from a bad investment by the DWP or the CRA? How many of you have had a city contract fixed for you? Once you have taken all those people out of the mix, is there anybody left that can support this guy with a straight face?

I do however care about this city. CD14 has been the leading source of corruption on our City council since Alatorre! AND HE IS STILL HERE.

And how do I know about the LAPD manipulation. Let's just say I have experienced it first hand.

If the other Council people weren't such chickenshits they would stand up and say something,

they know...

Sincerely "-3" in CD9.

January 21, 2011 1:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:41 p.m.

More of the same - factless, slimy innuendo. Anony-musings that will disppear in 6 weeks.

"I know"... "I hear"... "This is true.."

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

If you know, tell it to the DA. But you don't, so just post it here.

January 21, 2011 2:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:02 PM

the pay is set by an earlier council roster that put in a Charter Amendment in 1999 or so. NO one on council has ever moved to add a different pay formula on the ballot?

How would you get the majority of CMs to join such a changes. The idea of the pay increase purpose was part of the story in the LA Weekly, http://www.laweekly.com/2009-02-26/news/los-angeles-on-300-000-a-year/ -"Los Angeles on $300,000 a year." Written before election day in March 2009, it's worth re-reading for a lot that still rings true and to put things into a context that helps size up things now.

Some things you see there in the long article still are present and are what supports a need for changes.

January 21, 2011 2:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What is all the hostility towards senior citizens from the Huizar groupies? If you are mirroring your candidates own feeling towards them, that's pretty revealing.

Why is it that Villaraigosa supporters (who blog here to support Huizar) are so mean spirited?

January 21, 2011 2:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The top picture says it all - Im suprised you use it RS.

Smiling, no fear, laughing.

Already re-elected. Just 6 more weeks of being attacked without any facts, and it's over.

January 21, 2011 2:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I attended last night’s forum and the Messiah Rudy Martinez was among us! What a fucking joke! Does he really believe people buy his omnipresent BS!? Know your audience, know your constituent… His BS speeches are purchased by people with a 4th grade education, disgruntled citizens who have never heard of the “chain of violence,” as it relates to government or “punctuated equilibrium” as it relates to human progress, or 5150 head cases…

January 21, 2011 2:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Even staffers have groupies now! Some people must be getting great service in CD14 - but unfortunately it's just some. Oh, I seem to remember some Huizar supporter blogging here that the Councilman doesn't have time to help more than a few constituents.

January 21, 2011 2:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The facts are that there were lists that were created by CM Huizar. HOW they were used is what is not or cannot be shown, but the maintenance of the list(s) is what shows something that's got the CMs interests, and not the citizens', as the priority.

Because you can't find a specifically determinable case of harm or injury to a consitutuent or organization does not mean that they were dealt with on any level playing field, and that is the harm.

All the other personal attacks ignore one simple fact, that JOSE has become a CAREER POLITICIAN and intends to remain one. His alignment with ANTONIO VILLARAIGOSA still cannot be overlooked - does he ever criticize any of the mayor's actions directly? Neither do most of the other CMs who owe or buy into the Villraigosa way of city management.

The question on the issue of a transfer of the CRA funds of some $983 million into a city created entity was not handled well. Jose should have known better with all the commotion created at the CRA meeting last week.

Whoever posts on this blog is probably pretty well set on where their vote will be going, so there's not many minds to change here. I just want to express a few things. And Cubas was there last night with the Bring Back Broadway woman mentioned.

The only criticism on the meeting was that the written questions did not ask for the name like when Jose was at Eagle Rock's State of the Community event.

THEN you would know if there were "arranged" questions put in by staffers - who I think should stay out of that part, and also they could explain the questions where needed. Just my opinion and reason on that.

January 21, 2011 2:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2.05, Another Huizar supporter who talks down to people.

I am aware of Martinez' shortcomings but I believe he will be better representative for the people of CD14 than our current Council Member, Jose Huizar.

It's not only Huizar's enemies lists that reminds me of Nixon's unpardonable behavior but reading Huizar's supporters arrogant and fawning posts reminds me of Nixon's cohorts - the ones that jumped a sinking ship when the s... hit the fan!

January 21, 2011 2:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


"What is all the hostility towards senior citizens from the Huizar groupies?"

I'm pretty sure you're talking to me on this one, and for the record, I only "mirror" what I think and see in real life.

Let me lay it out in simple terms...

I love seniors. I practically am one. But I absolutely, positively - hate to see them "used" for political purposes by trolling signature collectors like the people that made up (literally) Rudy Martinez's "endorsement" lists. Going after the weakest links, people in nursing home and assisted living facilities for signatures? What a horrible whore of a politician.

Bottom line: Rudy Martinez was nearly 100 percent unable to capitalize on the contact lists lifted from the council office to garner support, with a 6-month head start on them. In a panic to make it look like they have supporters other than people related by blood or marriage, they went wholesale signature shopping at nursing homes and places where many are infirmed and don't even make life decisions for themselves anymore.

(Like the religious cults that by design focus their snake-oil gospel on the absolute poorest people with the least education - because that's where they'll be least questioned).

Read the lists. I'd bet you many of those "endorsers" are dead or near-dead by now. Others probably can't tell you what year it is, let alone who represents them at City Hall.

For them, it's 1986, and Bill Clinton just did something naughty with an intern.

A scandalous, mean and opportunistic ploy. He'd have been better off going onto skidrow and handing out candy bars in exchange form "endorsements" - at least that wouldn't have been so, um... "transparent?"

January 21, 2011 2:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:22 said:

"Because you can't find a specifically determinable case of harm or injury to a consitutuent or organization does not mean that they were dealt with on any level playing field, and that is the harm."

So, basically in your book, a politician is guilty until proven innocent.

Good argument. Works in most countries around the world (but not here).

January 21, 2011 2:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How would you get the majority of CMs to join such a changes.

By your own admission, then, a Rudy Martinez contrarian councilmember at City Hall would be useless, and especially unhelpful to our district.

I agree.

January 21, 2011 2:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:36 p.m. said. (And I wasn't the person you responded to).

I am aware of Martinez' shortcomings but I believe he will be better representative for the people of CD14 than our current Council Member, Jose Huizar.

And, I truly believe you believe that, with all your heart. But it's also obvious by what you left out of your message that you have no factual basis for that, probably little or no working experience with the current councilman and his staff -- just blind faith.

You're entitled to that. Go with it. This is America, and if you want to believe that jumping out a 4th floor window will improve your flying skills, you have that right. You can also worship aliens in spaceships that land on the pyramids every 1,000 years.

Go with your "feelings" - maybe that's all you ever have.

I hope it works for you.

I study facts, progress, real issues (not just "my street has a pothole), and I talk to many, many others. That's what I base my voting on.

Pretty much universally when people elect these untrained, unqualified, promise-everybody-everything "everyday Joes" like Rudy Martinez, they make a mess of things. That "wrassler" governor in Minnesota years ago, action-hero Schwarzenegger -- even the grotesquely unqualified Jimmy Carter, for president..

Knee-jerk, "my feelings are hurt", "time for a change" bumper-sticker overhauls in leadership just fail us all.

January 21, 2011 3:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, ditto. What somebody said before.

Huizar took a similar beating, especially in 2005, from a handful of obsessed enemies, and never seemed to sweat.

This challenger is by all counts the least well-connected, least known, least experienced of any runners-up yet.

And it'll be known all around that he's a Republican, last-minute switcher.

He has only money going for him, and much less than Jose has collected. If it wasn't for his wealth, most of these groups wouldn't even be holding debates, like many didn't for Parra's attempt.

January 21, 2011 3:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:01 p.m.


I see less of the Obama "hope" and "change" stickers on cars, everyday.

Shame at being fooled, no doubt.

January 21, 2011 3:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:45, No, if you "love" senior citizens, I wasn't referring to you. Somebody who loves senior citizens or "geriactrics" surely wouldn't make disparaging remarks about them.

January 21, 2011 3:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:08 is pretty good at twisting people's words. But anyone who can read English won't buy it.

...saying that, because it's absolutely metaphysically impossible for Rudy Martinez and staff to "listen to everyone, hear everyone, etc." like god in heaven answers prayer, in a district bigger than several U.S. states then means that I'm saying Huizar only has time "for a few" is a mean twist of illogic. Wouldn't pass for high school debate team.

Even more cynical is saying that someone's a "groupie" of council staff, simply because they're not beating them up verbally at every turn.

Some are good, most are doing pretty well, and some have been absolutely horrible, okay!

Nick Pacheco's in later years were actually better in many cases, but they are gone because he couldn't keep the office - so, that's that. Villaraigosa's were just a shadow campaign staff for his mayoral run - they don't even count.

We have no idea how a Rudy Martinez would prioritize staff. Most likely it'll be very, very bad for the first year or so (the last "outsider" Pacheco's was). About the only thing he's really told us is that -- as a businessman -- he'll prioritize economic development.

That's a monstrously time consuming thing for any staff. To even begin to make that work, he would have to radically decrease the number of staffers that deal with the block-by-block service issues of our district, hire people who are not the "pothole-filling" types, and would be far less available anyway.

Then he says he'll work on streamlining bureacracy. That's another overload into policy people who almost never see the light of council constituents' faces.

It just doesn't compute in any way. There's no "reality" in this reality show star's outlook on city government... just empty, undeliverable promises.

January 21, 2011 3:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12;33 Thanks, Mom. Can Dad write something when he gets home from work? Gotta run....I am off to another useless community meeting, oh...I mean important community meeting. Oh, Mom, I didn't forget to telephone the tree trimmers. First thing tomorrow morning, OK? And, one last thing - I got that troublesome neighbor a minus 3, so don't worry if she tries to 'phone Jose about the noise Dad makes with his power tools every weekend...nobody going to return her calls. Gotta go, Mom, it's election time so we staffers have to attend these boring, time wasting meetings.

January 21, 2011 3:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey red spot you and Higby are finished.

According to Rick Coca the Daily News story exposing Hacopian's ownership of this blog is coming out on Monday.

The story will also reveal the all too cozy relationship between Rudy's campaign and certain major reporter covering this race.

January 21, 2011 3:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I got to this blog through another blog due to an article on CRA. I don't even have a horse in this race, since I do not live in CD14 district. However, due to all these staffer comments I felt compelled to comment because I have never seen so many political staffers scared of loosing their cushy city jobs.

Seriously all these posts supporting Councilman Huizar like he was a messiah at all hours of the working day can only be done by cubicle residing city employees. Since I doubt another Councilman's staff is commenting on a race that doesn't affect them it must be Huizar's staff. Shouldn't you guys be working on something like writing Press Releases on how the Councilman just cured cancer or something? Or having him take credit for a football stadium being proposed to be built in another Councilpersons District?

All of your paranoia seeps out in your comments because if this Rudy Martinez guy had no chance of winning you would just have been ignoring this or any other blog story, but you guys keep commenting so you all must fear him. How does it feel to be relegated to the lowly position in the organization of posting support comments for your boss on blogs?

January 21, 2011 3:58 PM  

Blogger Red Spot in CD 14 said:

My bloggin week is complete.

Gatto Truther, turn Huizzynista, is in the house!

January 21, 2011 4:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:42 p.m.

The anti-Huizar spinners are weakening.

Must be time for the Geritol run at the nursing home.

They've gone back to the "everyone who disagrees with Red Spot here works for the City" avoidance technique. Don't respond to the actual content, just claim it's "insider" posting.

The numbers, election after election after election, prove the opposite. Council staff members only get one vote in elections, too.

So, explain the landslides?

(Reminds me of high school, and the guys from our sports team that lost EVERY year for decades to the cross-town rival... "NEXT YEAR, we'll get 'em NEXT YEAR... they just got LUCKY, again, for the 14th time.")

January 21, 2011 4:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


That would NOT surprise me. Not a new tactic. Pacheco helped start a throwaway community newspaper in ER/Filipinotown years back, just so they would ALWAYS run his press releases on page 1 and never report on his opponent. it lasted just slightly longer than his campaign that year. His name was never in the ownership, but it was ALL Pacheco, ALL the time.

They "endorsed" him, as well (but not any other races or props.). And, after you got past page 1, it was all just retreaded newswire stuff, unedited just to surround house ads.

The year he left office, it folded - quickly.

I always wondered just where the money for that came from? If you'd go to their "editorial offices" there would never be anyone there... just empty desks with piles of old issues. If you asked when the "reporters" were in, someone would direct you back to the printing area where some guy in a press apron would just shrug his shoulders and pretend he didn't understand.

"City -something" that was the name - "City Review" or ???

OH, and then there was the very, very pro-Pacheco "Northeast Observer" run by a guy who was almost simultaneously Pacheco's campaign guy when he re-ran in 2005 - the infamous John Edwards, also a "Bradley" booster. That didn't last much longer than the other one above.

Yeah, I won't be shocked.

January 21, 2011 4:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Ohh shut up.

Rick Coca should go back and do his job so his boss gets better press than what he has been getting the last few weeks.

January 21, 2011 4:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Rick Coca is right about the upcoming Daily News expose story on Monday.

The article will also show how that Hacopian:

owns the LA Times
the LA Weekly
NBC News and La Opinion

And that he caused the housing crisis and was the key figure in the 1929 Stock Market crash and created the SARS virus.

I say it's time for Rudy do to get rid of him.

January 21, 2011 4:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


I don't know what media you're reading, but Huizar's come out on top on almost all coverage. the last couple weeks - even though most was planted by the other side.

Here's a hint - see how many of the articles Red Spot has linked to here (the actual stories, not the bizarro RS "interpretation" of what it means), that Rudy's people are really willing to link up with on their own campaign site.

Surprisingly, only a few recent ones -- why? Because in almost every one, Rudy gets trashed as much or more... painted as someone most readers would want to "unfriend" themselves, if they'd been at the receiving end of his "mudslinging" as one said.

The bits and bytes that the Parque's and Turd-jillos of the world can pull out of the others to re-paste into slick mailers is just devastating.

Rudy is yesterday's bologna once the mailings start in force. Hell, I can't wait. What will be the sequel to Alvin Parra as Homer Simpson?

Except this time, they don't need to create an avatar to make Rudy look like 2D animation. He already did that, for national TV cameras.

He already IS a TV cartoonish character, the bumbling, corner-cutting, unethical, buyer-chiseling house flipper "REALITY RUDY!"

January 21, 2011 4:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OMG its so obvious the Huizar staffer groupie spinners. Community members don't speak the way they do and aren't as evil and mean I agree. Its a known fact Huizar staffers are MIA at most meetings. The few times they do show up its heloo everyone see me here then they jet out of there. The fact so many negative mean posters shows the desperation of the Huizar camp. When you have to climb uphill and the momentum is against you, its hard to move forward. Say what you will but the "LISTS" are definitely gaining steam and the disrespect Huizar has shown so many including cops, priests, seniors. Anyone who thinks differently are the groupies.

January 21, 2011 5:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

says: What will be the sequel to Alvin Parra as Homer Simpson?

How about Huizar as Rizzo?

January 21, 2011 5:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:01? Incredible arrogance from another Huizar supporter...Only you study facts! Only you know the issues! Only you talk to many, many others! What an ego!
Why have elections, 3:01. Just tell us all who you are voting for (after studying the facts, the issues and talking to many, many others) and we will all follow your lead. AND LOS ANGELES WILL PROBABLY BE IN A WORSE STATE THAN IT IS NOW!

January 21, 2011 6:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Community members don't speak the way they do"

(You're right, little one, all the "community members" are like you - barely able to speak coherently at all, and obviously unable to punctuate or use complete sentences when they write).

[My apologies for LAUSD; it started before my time.] Remedial night school, perhaps??

Of course you're right... Only the almight HUIZAR STAFFERS post here using good grammar. Who else out there in CD14 possibly could? You caught us. Anyone with an adequate vocabulary or (gods forbid), a COLLEGE DEGREE, must be on his payroll. (And, it's ALLLLLL from CLARKS bar funds!)

Geez, how revealing is your ignorance? And just how increasingly obvious is it which candidate the poorly educated are now seeing as their new "hero" for CD14?

This really is becoming about the amount of incredible, palpable jealousy by the Huizar bashers... that he went to college, and FINISHED... that he can actually answer a debate question directly, without zig-zagging through six other subjects (confessing to crimes in the procees). His educational success is just killing the green-eyed haters here.

Anyone who thinks differently are the groupies.

You won't know this, child, but what's it called when someone says "everyone who thinks differently from me is...?"

Anyone, anyone??

It's called "group-think" -- and according to Janus, the theorist who coined the phrase, it happens "when a group makes faulty decisions because group pressures lead to a deterioration of 'mental efficiency, reality testing, and moral judgment.' Groups affected by groupthink ignore alternatives and tend to take irrational actions that dehumanize other groups. A group is especially vulnerable to groupthink when its members are ... insulated from outside opinions.

So, what did you say about "anyone who thinks differently"?

You know, it's actually easier to be an "anti" groupie (hate comes so easy to simple minds), than a "pro" one and your little parting thought there betrayed what you're actually projecting from your own psyche.

January 21, 2011 6:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Yeah, have 'em go with that.

It'll make no sense, except to Huizar-bashers (i.e., no "converts" as a result), and appear as just so much mean-spirited overkill against someone whose positive ratings in the community are the highest of any councilmember in the last 2 decades.

January 21, 2011 6:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Your Council District has been controlled by criminals since the 1980's....

the bar isn't very high.

January 21, 2011 6:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:15 Do you and your Huizar groupie friends ever read what you write?

You castigate Martines supporters and anti-Huizar bloggers who are not Martinez supporters for simply not sharing your view...Child

Either there is one supremely arrogant blogger here or Huizar supporters have two things in common - they are all supremely arrogant and also they are backing a loser.

January 21, 2011 7:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:59 How about Huizar as Martin Ludlow?

January 21, 2011 7:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I hope CLART funds aren't paying for these blogs!

January 21, 2011 7:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


That's where you are wrong....I'm way past the DA...

Hope you didn't leave a trail...

January 21, 2011 7:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wow 5:59..

I've watched LA politics for over 20 years and can think of MANY Council people who were far more popular than Huizar....He is almost invisible when he is not being investigated for something!

He was only placed there by the machine to outrun the bribery allegations at the LAUSD.

And even there he was working for the machine ...

And placed on the Planning commission before that.....

You have to go back all the way to El Pueblo... to see when Huizar was first pulled from the gutter and groomed for the mob...

How many fake addresses were used....

How much money was spent to get him where he is today...

You can take the ghetto out of the boy....

January 21, 2011 7:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I was wrong the Huizar haters here haven't spiraled down to just "you all work for him."

It's worse, from looking at the 7:05 p.m. post. They've descended fully into the "my candidate's RUBBER, yours is GLUE. Everything you say about RUDY bounces off and sticks to JOSE!"

Nyaaaaah! (Tongues sticking out).

Such stimulating responses I can probably get from underaged barflies at Marty's, just before closing time.

January 21, 2011 8:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pointing out someone's obvious lack of education or intelligence based on how little logic and how much blind faith they reference in their arguments (when it's all just "I FEEL, I HATE, I BELIEVE") isn't being arrogant. It's just adding up the numbers.

I'm sure it's uncomfortable to hear that the would doesn't revolve around the things you believe -- just because you believe them, or that someone's campaign literature told you it was true (and you never bothered to check or think for yourself).

Sometime's it's not enough to "question authority" - you have to also question the motives of the people asking those questions, too.

Where were they 6 months ago, why do they only now care - because they're in the race, or because a family member has been embarrassed, or because they were bored, or that some other line of work they were doing is less profitable.

Think, don't just "believe".

January 21, 2011 8:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8;08, Can you enlighten us as to what is so stimulating about your response, please?

January 21, 2011 8:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It seems that one of the bloggers is paid by Huizar, he/she has to be paid because who would make up all this blogs, and this person has no idea who Huizar is. When Huizar started campaigning in CD-14.a Princeton graduate, had no idea about the 710 Extension issues, how can you miss that if you live and work in the area. Huizar was elected only because of AV, Huizar was unknow to CD14, and up to now, he does not have a clue about quality of life issues in CD 14. There are no community forum in Boyle Heights,He is afraid to meet with the community, he runs away.
Rudy is new to politcs, and yes there is some issues that he may not be familiar with. Rudy has proven he is a successful person.
A degree, or a High School diploma is just a tool, it is a fact that Rudy has been more successful with a high School diploma than Huizar with Princeton and UCLA degrees.
If Huizar staff was so happy, why does he have such a turn over of employees? There is something wrong with his management skills. One positive fact is that he can lie with a straight face,a poker face, and his staffers are in training. Maybe that is why he let go a total of 89 staffers. For graduating from Princeton he lacks people's skills. And no, he was not relaxed at Glassell Park, He ran out, and his staff followed him out the door and away like always. Huizar, apparently, does not know that some of the projects he talk about are not finish. Many of the promises he made are not even in the radar, but I still have the very expensive booklet with beautiful pictures of what Boyle Heights. How much did that booklet cost, it was printed in very high quality paper.

January 21, 2011 9:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"I am not a crook," lol

January 21, 2011 10:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think someone should tell Ana Cubas to wash her hair and comb it, she liked nasty last night. It looked like if she just woke up. and she represents " WHO ".

January 21, 2011 10:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ana Cubas doesn't have a blue dress. That is why her hair looks like that.

5;59 - How about the 3 stooges - Huizar, Rizzo and Stevenson (Huizar's partner in the Miguel Contreras crime spree - who is no serving time)

January 22, 2011 7:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Your incredibly bad writing skills prove the previous points.

I doubt very much if you would know an "issue" if it bit you.

And, once again, the VERY, very weakest illogical response here is always "Huizar is paying people to blog."

Again, he got 66 PERCENT OF THE VOTE - 4 years ago.

He has HUNDREDS of registered endorsements from community leaders.

He does not need to PAY people to blog here. I blog because it's SO easy to knock down the rabid haters here.

Stop leading with your ignorance - nothing like that computes in any way.

RUDY is the guy who's had to throw his own money in, because he has NO support.

Remember? Think it through. If you hate/oppose Huizar, you are very much in the minority in CD14, and will be again in 5-6 weeks.

It's all over but the fun of gloating. - because after March 8, these haters here will be saying, also ignorantly:

Uhhhm, Huizar must have PAID people to vote for him.

Uhhhm, VILARAIGOSA made Huizar win (yeah, explain that one, after AV's ratings dropped last election).

Uhhhhm . . .

Excuses, excuses, excuses. Keep stockpiling them. Rudy will need words of condolences. Because as he said in Glassell - he NEEDs his whole Council paycheck for his kids college funds (because he's blowing $150,000 money on a loser campaign).

Hacopian, however, WILL have a college fund now . . . always the way with conmen.

January 22, 2011 7:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Again, he got 66 PERCENT OF THE VOTE - 4 years ago."

So that means that 34 percent of the district will vote for any one against him as long as they put their name on the ballot. (which is what happend in 07)

This time he has an opponent who has money and a political team who knows how to run a campaign and well known for wacking the hell out of their opponents.

Its a new day pal.

January 22, 2011 9:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I respect that Rudy's campaign isn't being funded by special interests. To me, that's HUGE. Maybe we can finally get someone who will work for the citizens. If he wins, he won't owe anyone. Much different than Huizar. Think about it.

January 22, 2011 10:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7:55 Huizar was elected in 2005 because he had the support of AV which led to his campaign spending around $600 thousand and IEs of another $300 thousand. That's a shit load of money.

This is why people say he got elected through AV. AV didn't want Pacheco back and so he put all his efforts behind JH.

Also, that special election included Schwarzeneger's anti-union initiatives which led to a 50% turnout in CD14 primarily driven from union households. This is significant because each union voter had their cheat sheet against the initiatives and included JH for council.

A normal special election would only have a 10% turnout.

The unions kicked Pacheco's butt, not Huizar, in 2005 and they didn't even do it by design; their goal was to defeat "the terminator" and Pacheco was collateral damage because of the cheat sheets.

This election will be the first where JH will either win or lose on his own because AV has lost his coattails, ask Chris Essel.

January 22, 2011 10:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Huizar is a nice guy and has a lovely family but unfortunately he just does not seem to be passionate about being a Councilmember.

Whether or not you liked Pacheco he seemed to want to do the job. He had community meetings where HE would answer questions late into the evening, he had office hours without the requirement of an appointment every month in a different part of the district, he worked with constituents to train them to access city services, and he had large volunteer driven environmental fairs that cleaned up the district.

That is the kind of councilmembeer I want.

I don't know if Martinez will be this active but I have not seen Huizar be out there and available as our Councilmember.

Martinez needs to worry less about the 30% percent of activist and more on the 70% of voters that don't know JH or him.

This is where the race will be won or lost, not with the activist.

January 22, 2011 10:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

In 2007 Huizar got 8,785 votes (66%).

CD 14 has 93,145 voters in 2011

What will be the turnout in march?? 20% (18,629) 25% (23,286)? 30% (27,943)?

January 22, 2011 11:45 AM  

Anonymous g said:


January 22, 2011 2:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Rusy's campign isn't funded by special interests?


He IS a special interest. He's a rich, self-serving businessman who's spent his entire life serving HIMSELF, making money for himself.

When was the last time a rich businessman entered politics and succeeded in improving life for others... AHNOLD?

What part of "special interest" don't you understand.

January 22, 2011 6:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Could somebody fill us in on the Huizar -Miguel Contreras "crime spree"?

January 23, 2011 9:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Its a known fact in Boyle Heights if you don't support Huizar or the Failure of a Mayor you are discriminated, disrespected and on your own. Many organizations have learned that unfortunately the hard way. Huizar staffers stopped going to their meetings to give updates because they questioned Huizar. With Huizar in office you don't have nor can you exercise your 1st ammendment right because you will immediately be targeted. HorribleH back when Boyle Heights NC had to ask Tom LaBonge to help them get a permit for their Parade. That's the disrespect they have had for years and now are ready to get rid of Huizar. Someone should post the salaries of all Huizar's staffers. Word is over 4 of them make over $125,000.

January 23, 2011 9:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ana Cubsa makes $145,000 as Chief of Staff. Really. That is obscene.

January 23, 2011 9:21 AM  

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