Mayor Sam Exclusive: Day 3 of Councilman Huizar's "Listgate", El Sereno List revised as recently as Summer of 2010
Boulevard Sentinel Editor Tom Topping (-1 and 2) with Councilman Jose "Charro Huizzy Corleone" Huizar. How would the councilman grade LA Times Reporter David Zahniser?Great Wednesday morning to all from the "Cut and Paste Republic of CD 14" where Councilman Charro Huizzy Corleone is shovel-ready at anytime to dig himself a bigger hole of contradictions, regarding his actions in the Listgate Scandal.
Upon the release of all the Listgate documents yesterday by the Rudy Martinez Campaign, Councilman Charro Huizzy Corleone felt compel to email his supposed supporters a statement/spin on the LA Times story that broke the Listgate Scandal. (** Please note that Huizar's statement was posted yesterday at 12:37PM on the comment section) Judging by the bloggin spin from MEAT, errrr, Team Huizzy, one would think that former Councilman Charro Huizzy Corleone Staffer and Candidate Rudy Martinez Mother Juanita Martinez's profile photo would be posted in every CD 14 Council Office and post office for all to see. "Wanted! Juanita Martinez for exposing Councilman Charro Huizzy Corleone's secret CD 14 Constituent Discrimination Lists", good try Trujillo.
But as LA Times City Hall Scribe David Zahniser reports this morning (on page AA 3 of the LA Extra section), Councilman Charro Huizzy Corleone can't shovel enough spin to cover up for his contradictory statements to the "Old Gray Hag on Spring Street", as we note below.
From Councilman Charro Huizzy Corleone: "The list was put together by a former staffer who worked in my office and was intended to be a simple way of making sure that my office stay in touch with community leaders and groups".
The LA Times reports: Although Huizar tried to pin the list controversy (Listgate) on a single staffer whom he would not identify, three former Huizar aides have told the Times that the councilman worked closely with several of his employees on the lists, changing scores when he disagreed with their assessments.
From Councilman Charro Huizzy Corleone: "While the lists have not been used in years, it was not as my opponent claims, some type of Nixonian enemys list. It most definitely was not use to determine who received services or got their pothole filled".
The LA Times reports: "Huizar said Tuesday that his staff stopped using the list several years ago but he couldn't remember exactly when".
** Mayor Sam Exclusive: The El Sereno List notes a "Hector Salazar, New Director of the El Sereno Seniors Center". Los Angeles Recreation and Parks Director Hector Salazar was assigned to the El Sereno Seniors Center in the Summer of 2010. This shows that the El Sereno List was being revised most recently as last summer. In addition, "Julio Torres, Editor of the Our Town Magazine", (** The only person to get a perfect score "3 and 5" on the list) did not start publication of the magazine to until 2010., as the magazine's Wikipedia link notes.
The LA Times continues: "While Martinez publicly released copies of the lists. Huizar has repeatedly rebuffed requests from the Times for copies of them, say that they are exempted from the state's public records law. His spokesman (Rick "Coca Puffs" Coca?) said the public would be better served by shielding the councilman's decision-making process and keeping the list concealed"
Maybe concealment is the only option Councilman Charro Huizzy Corleone has when the weight of the facts, contradicts his public statements?
** Props to NELA Lives Blogger Tony Butka for posting the reminder regarding the next CD 14 Candidate Forum hosted by the Glassel Park Improvement Association.
Where: Glassell Park Senior Center, 3750 N. Verdugo Rd. LA 90065. (Inside Public Storage next to Glassell Park Recreation Center).
Who: Councilman Jose Huizar and Challenger Rudy Martinez.
When: Thursday, January 20, 2011 at 7:00PM
Your thoughts..............
Scott Johnson in CD 14
Labels: "COUNCILMAN LAST SEEN AS JOSE HUIZAR", Listgate, Outtakes from CD 14
Posted by Red Spot in CD 14 @ 1/19/2011 07:04:00 AM
94 Comments:
What an idiot, why did they have to respond? all there doing is keeping the story going.
WAKE UP HUIZAR WE ARE THROWING YOU UNDERNEATH THE BUS!
NO MATTER HOW MANY EMERGENCY MEETINGS YOU HAVE....TO FIX THINGS YOU CREATED AND USED US TO DO YOUR DIRTY WORK
THE MOLE LIVES WITHIN YOUR WALLS.
YOU CAN NOT THROW ALL OF US OUT.
Wow Red Spot, you even beat the Times. Great work.
This blog is dead (figuratively speaking). Where's Higby?
10:26
It's the same MOLE from 2005 Villaraigosa Campaign.
Posted incomplete list?
Names missing!
This issue will be referenced by public relations firm on how not to deal with bad news.
Tell the truth, minimize damage and move on.
But Jose just keeps lying and making thing worse for himself.
This is a self infilicted wound.
Got a text from a Huizar staffer.
There is a witch hunt in Huizar's office trying to find out who the mole is inside their office. Francine is yelling and screaming at every one.
The mole is that Eric guy in Jose city hall office. Team Jose has never really trusted him since he came over from La Bonge's office.
So can some one tell me how the new guy who has never run for office is running circles around a long time elected official?
Is Huizar ever going to step out of his own shit?
SCOTT,
ON A SCALE OF 1-10, HOW HONEST ARE YOU BEING ON THIS STORY?
Based on your history of embellishing and posting false information, this is now a legitimate question.
Signed, someone who dislikes both candidates.
"Engregiously" yours,
Come on everyone, we all know the mole is wikileaks.
Huizar is loved and adored in CD14. His staff would jump on a grenade for him.
He's the best Clowncilmember money can buy.
"I suppose it is Better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven."
Jose Huizar
Hmmm, you're hanging your rebuttal to Huizar as having an "enemies list" on the ES list, which lists NO ENEMIES?
Worstest "journalism" yet, here.
You've lost all rational thinking capability through partisan blindness.
HOW WILL CAMPAIGN STAFF SPIN THIS ONE?
GO AHEAD SEND ANOTHER EMAIL TO THE PEOPLE ON THE LIST…..
YOU HAVE BECOME A BAD LIAR AND A TERRIBLE LEADER.
FIRST -YOU SAY THE LIST DO NOT EXIST, THEN WHEN YOU ARE SHOWN THE LIST YOU SAY….OOH THAT LIST,
SECOND -YOU SAY OOOH THAT WAS A STAFFER WHO STARTED IT AND GOT FIRED OVER IT.
THIRD -YOU SAY THESE LIST WERE OLD 2006-2007,
FOUR- YOU SAY YOU NEVER SEEN THE EL SERENO LIST – YOU FUCKEN MORAN IT IS THE SAME EXACT LAYOUT AS THE OTHER TWO LIST – HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE
FIVE- IT’S CURRENT INFORMATION YOU ASS.
WE SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO THE OTHER STAFFERS THAT BAILED ON YOUR ASS. YOU'RE MAKING US LOOK LIKE FOOLS…. WHAT DO WE TELL THE PUBLIC WHEN WE ARE CONFRONTED ABOUT THE LIST AT MEETINGS?
YOU HAVE FUCKED IT ALL UP FOR US. WE DON’T EVEN WANT TO COME TO WORK ANYMORE IT’S EMBARRASSING, WE ARE THE ONES ON THE FRONT LINE DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC.
YOU ARE NOT THE LEADER WE ONCE BELIEVED IN
THE MOLE AND THE FAMILY
@Trojan2002
Hahaha
His staff is so loyal they've never quit on him, right?
10:46 p.m.
"So can some one tell me how the new guy who has never run for office is running circles around a long time elected official?"
1) He isn't.
2) He isn't even behind the "news" leaks, his paid hacks are. Without the, he couldn't BUY a copy of newspaper, let alone get one to cover his "leaks." They leave the scene March 8 and go to work for some other delusional wannabe.
3) What "poll" are you basing this "running circles around" on. Your "internal" one - you and five other yammering malcontents. Hell, Huizer's "internal" poll was more reliable that that.
There's no uproar over Lists, CLARTS, or anything else re: Huizar in the areas he serves, and to 95 percent of eligble voters he's still "Rudy who?"
The "furor" is all among a handful of people who have always been opposed to Huizar's election. They backed Pacheco and a smaller number backed Alvin Parra. Now and smaller, smaller number are riding Rudy's non-existent coattails, because they again have a "leader" and a face to put with their permanent opposition.
Changes nothing.
The election is already over.
Nothing left but to watch Rudy waste his personal wealth on a "vanity" campaign, so he can impress coeds in his bar. "OH, you're a political science major? I ran for City council once - let me my you a drink!"
"Beat the Times"
Ha!
The Times wasn't "beat" because this isn't a "story" they could or would cover. They couldn't really report this angle because they have the sense to know that it debunks the main point of Zahniser's original story.
If the ONLY list updated in the last three years isn't an "enemies" list (and contain "pro" Huizar people, plus has many listed with NO rankings), then Zahniser loses his snappy ending, comparing Huizar to Nixon.
But this blog couldn't care less about contradicting itself within 24 hours (it's almost a requirement to write here that you not be consistent - in the interest of putting rabid opposition ahead of any kind of accuracy).
1) Zahniser got his cute ending, 2) Red Spot got his daily, daily, daily installment to fill space (with no new information), and 3) most readers in the know in CSD14 aren't convinced OR concerned about either.
It's classic win-loooooser-whatever scenario.
10:26
Your right on that point, but you should give the other side credit for taking for taking advantage of the other sides mistakes.
11:11
Mike is that you?
For a campaign that is over they seem to be kicking you ass pretty well are they not?
Maybe the election isn't over, but I wish it was. Huizar probably can't be beat, and most likely has dirt to fling of his own closer to when people decide, but the district suffers during this period with al the slime and posturing from both sides.
And, like someone else said, a couple weeks after this is over, Huizar and Martinez will be sipping mimosas on the veranda together and slapping each other on the back about that "good one" each pulled on the other.
We suffer, it's just a "game" for them.
Most likely some El Sereno staffer just co-opted the old "ratings" list after Huizar stopped using them, and turned them into a general community leader contact list.
That's also the only one that has phone and e-mails on them.
11:11... to 95% of the electorate in CD14 it's also WHOzar.
And you're right they don't care about misappropriation of funds (CLARTS) and everything else, because on average only 5% of the ballots are cast on city elections.
So Huizar better be worried about the 5% that know he's a thug.
I'm 11.11
I've said it before -- STOP CALLING ME MIKE: "turd-jillo" isn't that smart or creative.
Give it a rest.
Huizar won by landslides twice, and has most of the major players in teh district in his side (AS EVIDENCED BY THE LISTS!)
You think NONE of them would support him here?
Puh-leeeze.
NOTE if you will, also, that there IS NO MARTINEZ support here (only Anti-Huizar bashing).
To win an election, especially against a popular incumbent, you can't just have people AGAINST the old, they have to also be FOR the new.
There aren't any, and won't be many more added in the next 5-6 weeks.
Martinez's camp screwed community leaders by leaking his lists, which means he's given up on even trying to win.
Now it's just revenge for Mom's firing.
This is all just a glorified "wrongful termination" excercise and the Huizar-haters are the pawns.
Enjoy being "sacrificed" to protect Rudy's "Queen", little chess pieces.
11:28
Let me pin this down for you.
You're 95 percent moron and 5 percent uninformed. Your "stats" belong in a 5th grade coloring book.
I'm betting you don't know 95 percent of he people on the lists and 99.99 percent of the people in the district and couldn't name 3 issues that are important to them (and "CLARTS" and LISTS don't even make the top 10).
Cheer-lead all you wan't, but "WHOzar destroyed an ex-CM Pacheco and trashed a Parra who was 5-times better known that Rudy Martinez.
The election is over, Huizar gets 60+ percent again, and Rudy's mom still thinks he's a genius (but she's the only one).
11:06
If you're really a staffer, I feel sorry for you, sort of.
Keep a smile on your face and think about that fat paycheck while the going is good.
11:52... a TOTAL of 13,376 votes were cast in the CD14 race in 2007.
That same year, only 10.5% of LA's registered voters actually filled out a ballot.
So, you're telling me CD14 was not only above the city wide number, but 85% percent above?
That means to get to 10.5% the other council districts turned out 1-2%. Which I guess would be believable, but Greig Smith in CD12 ran UNOPPOSED and garnered 14K votes.
10:39 A Cubas
11:28... when did WHOzar run against Pacheco?
Let's play
Where's the MOLE?
Clue:
1) 11:06 Mole and Family
2) 2005 Villaraigosa Campaign
3) Current Staffer
4) ?????????????????
It is painfully clear that the "power list" and CLARTS Fund issue are damaging Huizar otherwise they wouldn't be working so hard on "damage control".
Parke Skelton got Antonio elected Mayor against all odds and he is too smart to prolong this story without a perceived benefit to his candidate.
Only a hack would try to stop the bleeding without a wound, so there must be a reason for all the responses coming out of the Huizar campaign.
No matter what anyone else says, the Huizar campaign is taking these stories very seriously and doing all they can to control the damage.
Parke Skelton is definitely earning his money on this campaign.
Let's see what the next effort from the Huizar campaign is to stop the bleeding and let's see if it just creates another story.
12:29
Born yesterday?
Special election to replace Villar, after he jumped to mayor - late 2005.
Pacheco rolled out first, saying "I'm back, welcome me" then Huizar and 500 other jumped into the race.
Huizar had just weeks earlier been elected to a second unopposed term for school board, and some of the same "WHOzar?" ignorant yahoos posting here now said people would reject him because he should serve the LAUSD seat he just won.
Pacheco was white-knuckling it that he could force into 2-way runnof because their were 7 other dwarves also running that would scatter shot the votes, and then Pacheco could re-fuel with new money.
Never happened. Huizar won outright from the field - got 54 percent, and Pacheco ran VERY poor second with only 26 percent (less than half as many votes). The race was every bit as nasty as this one, and Pacheco hasn't bothered to show his face on a City ballot since.
There's your future, Rudy Rich. Not only a failed candidate in 6 weeks, the afterburn of your sliming will likely drive people away from your eateries.
I understand you have family in Texas? Might be nice to move there and start over.
Who says theres a mole. Didn't Zahniser say they got all lists from Martinez's thieving mother, and then confirmation came from ex-employee?
This "mole search" talk here is just a divide and conquer tactic. I doubt any of Huizar's people are buying it.
48 days until we don't ever have to hear from Rudy Martinez!
Thank goodness!!!
It's pretty funny to see how "The time is now; the choice is clear" (SURE!!! JAJAJAJA) campaign is crashing and burning.
The ONE question that we must be asking "candidate" Martinez is WHAT IS THE REAL REASON WHY HE IS RUNNING AGAINST HIS FORMER BFF? It's absolutely no secret that Jose Huizar and Rudy Martinez were in fact really close. Neither party has made any effort to deny the fact that until a year ago they were taking trips overseas, you could see Jose practically every night at Mia Sushi; to the point where Martinez even named a roll after him. They put their kids in the same school and spent a lot of quality time with each other's families. So why the sudden change of heart Rudy?
Rudy has already done an impeccable job at demonstrating that he is in no way qualified for this job, he is arrogant, ignorant and completely oblivious to how city government works. Perfect example his limited understanding of CLARTS and how there is no way he would be able to help "ease the public safety needs of the district" with $1.4 million. Has no clue that it would take about $400 million, that's right Rudy $400 MILLION to end the brown outs. And for your information, FD and PD are DEPARTMENTS therefore you can't pick and choose what areas of the city would end brown outs for FD and provide over time for PD. Do your homework before you talk out of your behind; you sound dumber by the minute.
As for that candidate forum… NO NEED TO COMENT!
Martinez is an opportunist and would sell his mom out for his personal gain (OBVIOUSLY), the real questions are WHAT MADE HIM DECIDE TO RUN AGAINST HIS FRIEND? WHAT OPPORTUNITY DID HE SEE IN ALL OF THIS? WHAT DOES HE KNOW THAT WE DON'T?
12:57
you assume way too much.
That it's Parke keeping this alive (and not just Huizar supporters -- because HE has them, and Rudy doesn't).
And then you assume that posting here is going to "keep (anything) alive".
This blog has never, EVER, in 6-7 years of existence played any role in any election in the City of L.A. (other than to give the winners something to crow about and LAUGH all the way to their swearing in).
It's predictions -- ESPECIALLY in CD14 have always been 100 percent wrong.
No, the nice thing about posting here is just to get under the skins of the dozen or so Huizar-haters who can't see the election for their whining pleas for "change".
Mayor Sam's 2005 - "JIMMY HAHN IS GOING TO JAIL"
Mayor Sam's 2005 - "WE ENDORSE TONY ("Failure") VILLAR
(okay, that was "correct" about the outcome -- but WAY wrong for L.A.... and not about CD14)
Mayor Sam's 2007 - "WE ENDORSE NICK PACHECO" to return to CD14 CM
Mayor Sam's 2011 - "JOSE HUIZAR IS GONNA LOSE!"
Make that 200 percent wrong about CD14.
Martinez won't even get as much of the vote as Pacheco did in '05.
Huizar in '05 - 54 percent
Huizar in '07 - 66 percent
This year, Huizar has all of the same supporters he had 4 years ago, plus the lion's share of Pacheco's supporters from 2005.
The feedback all over the (local Eastside) is all pro-Huizar, even after the Times stories.
And the more people get to know Martinez, the better Huizar looks. Martinez has serious personal baggage (REAL, not "rumored" like the stuff being thrown at Huizar), no experience, no plan but "I can 'fix' things", no support, no issues he really understands, and only his own money for backing.
And then we have these two meeting tomorrow night, Thursday:
"WHEN: on Thursday January 20th
WHERE: at the Glassell Park Community Center,3750 N Verdugo Road, LA 90065
(At Public Storage, next to the Glassell Park Recreation Center)
TIME: 7 PM
WHO: Councilmember Jose Huizar, Challenger Rudy Martinez
Thanks to the Glassell Park Improvement Association, who is hosting this
event."
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Then on Feb. 8th, another pairing of the candidates for a forum, at 7pm in Eagle Rock's Center for the Arts.
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Maybe not a pure "enemies list" but it's a ranking that seems connected to choices of action coming out of the CMs offices. (a bad thing for a public official).
What I wouid like to know is where the "listing and rating" practice came from since I doubt Jose was able to come up with this on his own.
Meanwhile, let the spinning continue. Amd if anyone doesn't like this blog, just don't read it. If it's not that important in any respect, just ignore it. The rest of us can sort out things for ourselves.
Read Surt: Maybe you should reconsider nicknaming Huizar as Don "Corleone"
Corleone died of old age, playing with his grandchild, after decades in power, and with his family still controlling things.
Or, are you admitting what the rest of us already know. Only term limits or a better job somewhere else will move Huizar out any time soon.
City Maven updates from MT on Lists.
"*Update: Huizar campaign manager, Michael Trujillo, says:
'Unfortunately for Rudy, the Golden Globes doesn’t give out awards for "best lie" during campaign season. This list was an internal document to rate how the office delivered constituent services, some people approved some did not. I think the most interesting part of all of this, is if Rudy had this wonderful spreadsheet since day one of his campaign, you would think he would have more community leaders endorsing him. His campaign is flailing and rudderless, you are going to see no positive vision for the district just negative campaigning from team Rudy.'"
What EYE said . . .
Hey, "turd"-jillo. You owe ME, an anonymous poster here for THAT revelation. I posted the "Rudy had mom steal the lists for use in prospecting decision leaders" and FAILED big time with them, then had to re-purpose them for a 'scandal'" comments here way earlier yesterday.
I'll send you a bill! Stay tuned, I'll fill you in on some of Rudy's other DUMB moves in time to reply to media with them - if you're lucky.
That's the BEST revelation in all this, and RUDY's stupid people let HIM put it out there. Desperate ain't the half of it.
Dumb, dumn, dumm, Hacopian! (And, I hope Rudy's seeing this, and realizing you are screwing him up, royally).
Only a candidate who's given up on actually winning would start exposing their OWN worst weaknesses to much wider scrutiny like that. Before this, the larger media had no idea Rudy Rich had ZERO community support. Now that not ONLY know that, they know that Huizar has ALL the players on his side, INCLUDING most of the ones his STAFF rated with NEGATIVE numbers.
This election is so far IN THE BAG for Huizar, he should take the next 6 weeks off.
Did someone say mole? Moles La Tia serves the best in Boyle Heights. See you at the Huizar victory parade!
2:19 p.m.
True, Hacopian ought to at least take Rudy out to dinner, first. And preferably not to one of his own restaurants. He's probably tired of eating dead fish, in addition to being one, in this race.
Of course, then it might be construed as "date rape."
Never in the history of CD14 elections has anyone contributed as much of their own money just for the opportunity to paint themselves as a total loser.
Ouch!
Are you people still talking about the March 8 election?
That is SO over already.
Maybe Rudy can get a job on Huizar's staff updating "enemies" lists? The names will all be new to him, but then, he's a "problem solver!"
Hoooo, ha!
Definitely a minus 2 from Team Huizar today.
"....it was not...some kind of Nixonian 'enemies list.'
What a line. What a joke.
Yes, Council Member Huizar. It is exactly a "Nixonian" enemies list. And, thanks, Parke, for reminding us.
3.16. Monica Garcia hasn't sung yet, so it can't be over yet!
I think the mole is Ana Cubas.
If you live in Boyle Heights you know that Huizar has lost the support and respect of the people. Although, he perceives the people as not being informed or knowledgeble, he is wrong. The majority of the people are hard working people, with a priority to take care of their family. just because they may not be active in the community, they are knowledgeble and will be informed by March 8 or before. Huizar you do not related with honest working people. May God forgive you and hope you learn your lesson,
The Huizar spinners get A for effort but F for content.
The supposed guy who has already lost has called my house and his people knock on my door while I have yet to see any thing from Huizar.
Keep spinning.
3:33 p.m.
The "joke" here is that Huizar and his campaign have been able to get the lion's share of the people you think are identified as "enemies" to support him against Martinez.
Now ain't that a bitch! Ain't that a game stopper.
Maybe the lists work REALLY well, when worked by someone that the people of CD14 actually know, trust, and have worked with on problems over the last 6 years (and not someone whose main DNA family trait seems to be stealing things from government offices).
(OH, and PLEASE don't give me than unfounded BS about Huizar has "lost support" where I live, because unless you live in Rudy Martinez's house or his mother's basement, there's just NO evidence iof any kind to support that).
Maybe Rudy Martinez could use some "lists" of his own instead of the ones his mama stole for him from her ex-employer, which have NOT been helpful to him in securing support in this campaign.
Maybe Rudy needs to troll the "new homes sold" list on MLS and focus on people who have just moved into CD14 who don't know the players, the issues, or even what district they live in yet.
That, and the gaggle of nursing home residents he has listed as his "endorsement posse" in his mailers, MIGHT get him up to the 25-30 percent of the voters the last two losers received vs. Huizar. But probably not.
I also have a helpful "to do" list for Rudy that goes something like this:
1) Fire Eric Hacopian
2) Drop out of embarrassing CD14 debacle to salvage one last ounce of self respect
3) Fire Eric Hacopian (again - just to be sure)
4) Order new menus for Mia Sushi with much higher prices to recoup losses from the "embarrassing CD14 debacle" Eric Hacopian suckered me into.
5) Return the other LAPD badge I did't accidentally "lose" to Pasadena police.
6) See about getting Mom a job with Xavier Becerra's office, and send her in with a shopping list, in case I decide to waste more money on a future run for office.
Rudy and friend will have to knock on about 1,000 doors a day (and spend no more than 30 seconds at each home) for the rest of the race to even come in a close second.
I hope he's wearing comfortable shoes.
People will be polite, they'll shake his hand, they say "I'll think about" and then other than the already Huizar-hating mini-minority, they'll drop his campaign stuff in the blue bins and then when their significant other says "who was at the door, honey" -- they'll say, "I don't know, some guy named Morales. I think he's running for school board or something."
(Funny, too. Even ex-non-candidate Tony Butka said Huizar's people were working his neighborhood. So, just because they haven't reached the ONE poster further up this thread don't mean a thing).
To Huizar's supporters, the fact is that Rudy does have the support of the working people and more. Huizar is in denial, waiting for AV to save him. I may not know Rudy very well, but I know who Huizar is, and what he is about, and he does not deserve my vote. I will defintely take my chance with a person that has work himself to success and money, Rudy. We cannot go wrong with Rudy, but we definetly cannot keep Huizar. Use the power of the vote to clean up corruption, start with Huizar out.
Just because Rudy's still walking the streets doesn't mean he's in the race.
He never was.
Someone break it to him gently.
1:39... Huizar NEVER beat Pacheco.
Antonio Villar beat Pacheco twice.
Antonio won the mayoral election with 54% of the vote. For some reason, he was still very popular in CD14. And he endorsed and campaigned hard for Huizar.
So, no I wasn't born yesterday.
I just don't believe Huizar beat Pacheco.
Huizar is still the best Clowncilmember money can buy.
We can agree on that, right?
Has everyone heard? The City of L.A. is so broke that Carmen Trutanich's City Attorney office is saying they will no longer be able to prosecute for misdemeanor crimes. Wait until word gets out on the street. SUCCESSFUL!
4:19 p.m. (You're obviously with Rudy's imported campaign staff that seems to keep enjoying insulting the leaders of all of the communities of CD14, over and over... the vast majority that didn't buy Rudy's bilge when he contacted them off the stolen database) -- because you see, by insinuating they've exchanged support for him for "special" treatment, you're calling most of the volunteer corps of the Eastside "corrupt" as well.
To Huizar's supporters, the fact is that Rudy does have the support of the working people . . .
(Yes, the people working FOR him, for pay. Unfortuately they can't all vote.)
I take it you believe that the hundreds of people listed on the stolen lists and on Huizar's endorsement rosters -- the people responsible for organizing almost 100 percent of the volunteer community improvements in the district, the NC & HOA leaders, the pastors, the school principals, the CofC chairs -- are NOT "working" people; they dont' "work'?
I'll pass that along to them each weekend and evening, as they slave away improving CD14 on their free time.
"Hey, RUDY DOESN'T THINK YOU "work" hundreds of CD14 volunteers. Put down those tools and petitions; drop the 'facade' that your good hard-working volunteers" Rudy's not FOOLED by you.
He also made that very plain at the first debate he attended where he lectured people who support one of the most active volunteer communities in the Northeast... "You've got to get out there and do it yourself," he browbeat them, while they looked at each others faces puzzled and thought:
"GEE, I thought I was. I spend several hours every week on some community improvement - hundreds every year."
And what, before mid-2010, when he started this run, was Rudy's history of community support?
Did he ever serve on any NC? Ever run for any NC? Ever serve on any beautification committees? Put up public art? Ever pester City government for better consituent services? Ever serve on a PTA, organize an event to build community, work a health fair, help kids sign up for college grants? Work with seniors, mentor youth, raise funds for school books? *Ever work the streets and phones for any important issue?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, nyet, not even, no, nada, zilch.
*OH YEAH, he did CAMPAIGN for an important ballot issue... to keep SECOND HAND SMOKE pouring into restaurants, as funded by BIG TOBACCO. (Sorry, I forgot that IMPORTANT work to improve CD14).
Good call there, he's a REAL worker to better the district. I feel much better knowing that if Huizar drops dead before winning on March 8, Rudy could pick up the slack.
(THE "did he ever serve on..." rundown is a freebie, Michael Turd-jillo - no charge).
I feel sorry for Rudy Martinez's kids whose college funds have been flushed down the drain when has no chance of winning this race and never did.
Whatever his motives (and I don't buy the "I'm going to fix things" bit at all) if he HAD that kind of money, and he has two young children, the responsible thing would be to set it aside for the kids. Let the kids get the education they need to become the next generation of leaders. Sacrifice your own ridiculous greed to provide for your children - but then again, Martinez's wife must have known his fatherhood instincts were pretty lacking since she left him with two little ones.
Rudy's an embarrassment to himself (and now to his Mom) and a poor example for his children, who will only learn from this whole mess to put greed and ambition and a quest for spotlights and starpower above family, future and sound financial planning.
FAIL. On so many fronts.
For 4:19...
"I may not know Rudy very well..."
"We cannot go wrong with Rudy..."
Wow, remind me to work confidence scams in your neighborhood - like taking candy from a baby.
I'll bet you've belonged to a long series of cult religions, too. Just missed the plane to Jonestown, did you? Forgot your tennis shoes and had to go back home before the Heaven's Gate thing played out.
Amazing faith, there. I'll bet you're also waiting for the 5th coming of "Tricky Nicky" Pacheco to save us all (or do you believe Rudy IS that new incarnation?)
4:13 et al. is killing me.
I'm having serious second thoughts about even giving Martinez a second look. Sounds like without his own bankroll these groups wouldn't even be bothering to hold debates around the area.
What is there really to recommend him?
Time to change the reel, Red Spot, post a new thread. Rudy's 2-3 die-hard supporters here are getting killed. Beside, it's probably time for their jello and Metamucil in the retirement home commissary.
(Then after dinner, it's peach ice cream and the Hallmark network movie!)
Dear Rudy,
Todo tiene su tiempo.
You are running for the 14th council district seat for the wrong reasons. Again, you are letting your anger get the best of you... Your anger has negatively impacted your reasoning skills. If you would only wait four more years, I think you may have a chance of being elected. Drop out of the race, save your money, and nick's; take the time to build your public service record: create a community garden, flip a park, flip a library, flip, a school, flip an entire neighborhood, just flip a public space then come back and try again...like my mother always told me when I tried to get ahead of myself: todo tiene su tiempo.
4:13 I didn't determine the ratings on Huizar's "Nixonian enemies list", he did. So, it's not a question of who I think are Huizar's enemies, he told us himself (with the help of that unnamed staff member - wink, wink).
If you think your response helps Huizar's case, now that's the joke! Another joke in your comedy routine is when you think anybody rated a minus 3 would consider that a sign of trust by Huizar. (You wrote: "Maybe the lists work REALLY well, when worked by someone that the people of CD14 actually know, trust...") Hahahahaha. What a joke.
And why fire Hacopian when he writes a better statement than the one Skelton put out yesterday? Another joke. You're quite the comedian.
What's tomorrow's revelation, Scott?
-- Huizar had "meetings" with the people involved on LISTgate, to see if they would ENDORSE him (oooh, oooh, sinister).
-- His staff has attended some of the VERY SAME community meetings these people do -- on CITY time! (oohh, ohhh, even MORE sinister).
-- Huizar has ACTUALLY taken phone calls from thes underhanded, corrupt "quin proquo" constituent service hogs, and even tried to fix their POTHOLES! Some with DISCRETIONARY funds (the NERVE)!
Will this infamy never END?
3.35
Monica Garcia is singing as we speak...but it's not a tune Huizar likes.
You don't have to hate Huizar to decide not to vote for him. And because you vote against him does not mean you hate him.
Jose is usually a nice guy but not a good Council member. And giving him another term to fumble the city's and district's needs would be a bad choice. Why would you expect any more from a Villaraigosa-aligned, supported and mentored politician to bring a better city than we have seen during the last term?
Huizar's "ratings" implies some are better than others and that must be information that's sounds like it is important to him for separating them as he did. No transparency here; nothing's changed with this CM.
Did you forget about Jose claiming the $3,000.00 as an expense for taxpayers for expenses when he travelled to a Princeton reunion, was asked about it for the Ch. 4 story and then reimbursed the city for the money? Jose would have never paid back this money if he wasn't called on it. And his salary should be enough, $15,000 a month then. It's -10% now, as he's said he's (symbolically) sharing the pain, with a $1,500 pay cut for $13,500.00 a month, still quite comfortable.)
And I still don't like "his" engineered city gift of a couple of LAFD "surplus" ambulances for $1 to send to Zacatecas. 1. Still some hefty re-sale value that the budget could have used, and 2. The benefit did not even stay in the U.S. You know Jose rates high on the Zacatecas list of friends.
Wow! Ambulances to Zacaitaecas?
Show me proof
6.04 What infamy? It's all in your mind and pure speculation.
Whatever Red Spots writes, we - you and me and every other blogger - will write whatever we want.
I understand your man has screwed up with CLARTS and his "Nixonian" enemies list, but why blame the messenger?
Forget your sarcasm and blaming Red Spot and give the people who write here and read these blogs a reason to vote for your man.
4:43
As long as you're comfortable redefining reality to suit your own gaffe's -- you go with that.
You might think about running yourself someday. You're no less deluded than Rudy (Robin Hood) Martinez and his band of merry relatives -- stealing badges and documents from the goverment to give more money to "poor" campaign hacks.
5.25
All those words....only to screw yourself. If Huizar really thought all those NC leaders, homeowner association presidents et al were doing such a great job....they would all be getting 5's from him!
You vote "AGAINST" someone, you lose.
Every time.
Perfect example, Tony V. our "Failure" mayor, had nothing top recommend him except hie wasnt Hahn.
OH, and he had
80 FAKE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES
to show for his $350-400,000, two-year salary as CD14 councilmember.
... make that, vote "AGAINST" and we ALL lose.
I only blame the "messenger" when there's really no "message" being present other then "I HATE HUIZAR" (so I'm going to condemn everything he does, every day, and 3 times some days) -- even if it means the "messenger" contradicts himself in toxic glee from one day to the next.
Where the "up-to-date" as of "2010"
Sereno "enemies list"?
Too embarrassing for the dregs here to find out they didn't even "rate" a listing?
Too Un-influential? (Yeah, I think so).
Funny how there was really no "story" to any of this until the roll-up to the election came along. And a rich opponent could pay some soulless hack to beat it to death with every media point until some bored sucker finally bit.
The "ratings" everyone keeps suggesting imply support for HUIZAR, himself.
Where does it say that?
I read them too, and I can easily see that they mean, "who can we trust in the district to help us move things forward... to 'support' our initiatives, our plans and programs and improvements."
(Versus, who's SO partisan and contrarian they'll be roadblocks to any forward movement, throw hissy fits no matter how we spend money, and accuse us of corruption every time they disagree). And, I think that last portion updates Red Spot's resume well!
Why would anyone, even someone as "paranoid" as the Huizar-haters here spend staff time mid-term keeping track of supporters, when by the time the next election rolled around everything and everyone would have changed - as evidenced by the obvious OLD, old dating of the two more complete lists stolen by an embittered ex-employee.
"** Props to NELA Lives Blogger Tony Butka for posting the reminder regarding the next CD 14 Candidate Forum..."
In understand there will be limited seating, so make sure you show them your rating #s from Huizar's lists in order to get in, and get preferred seating. Negative-numbered people can listen from the parking lot on a shared walki-talkie.
Also, will Bradley B. Bradley be stalking people and placing his body parts too close to them for intimidation purposes, during the debate?
Just wanta be sure I stay clear
Furry is talking to herself.
5:28 That's a disgraceful post. As bitter as the exchanges are sometimes on this blog, surely candidates children are off limits - in all circumstances.
6:52pm-
So do I have to look up all this too, and then have to come back to find a reference in Mayor Sam's to for this?
Yes, and then I find the reflective comment on this subject is something that looks like I wrote myself to criticize Huizar, the city and the waste.
Starting off with agenda items for the Guadalajara Book Fair expense in Mexico, then to the agenda item for 4, not 2, surplus ambulances- how much more impact is that?
But check the whole page
===========================
"Wednesday, August 13, 2008-
Correction: Zine DID Vote for $1.6 Million for Book Fair"
http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/2008/08/correction-zine-did-vote-for-16-million.html
I guess it's been such a long time that I recalled it incorrectly as 2 and not the 4 as stated in the Agenda, as noted below in relevant part:
"AS ANOTHER ITEM ON THE SAME TUESDAY AGENDA, was the $1 a piece sale of four “surplus” ambulances to a city in Mexico:
“ITEM NO. (17), 08-1982,
BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE REPORT relative to the sale of surplus equipment to the municipality of Tlaltenango, Zacatecas, Mexico.”
The fiscally relevant term here is:
“2. AUTHORIZE the sale of four surplus ambulances to the municipality of Tlaltenango, Zacatecas, Mexico, for the below market price of $1.00 each in accordance with LAAC Section 22.547”
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This was back in August of 2008, and it wasn't fiscally responsible for it to be done then or now, but it was still Jose's decision behind this.
See PDF for Jose Huizar's motion that turns out to be a doubly expensive gift than from what I had recalled, as it was 4 and not 2 ambulances. http://clkrep.lacity.org/onlinedocs/2008/08-1982_mot_7-25-08.pdf
This was during a time that the expense of the Guadalajara Book Fair was a heated topic, as shown in the blog.
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s8:39
Thanks
Contact John and Ken
Huizar's flak says he won't release the list in order to protect his decision-making process?
Which decisions?
I thought the lists weren't used to help him make decisions.
10:23
Why is this hard to understand.
They made a "decision" not to release the lists, so the lists were part of that "decision-making" process.
All points covered. Nuff said.
Once again, it's the "Mexican" connection being assailed here, exclusively on this blog, and it's all just SO transparent
Some unusable vehicles were given to an impoverished Mexican local government.
Now, while City Council does this ALL the time, with old equipment, etc. -- to groups, charities, and even other countries. There have been doezens and dozens of these transfers -- to here, there and beyond, requested by MANY different councilmembers . . . but ONLY because it's Huizar and ONLY because it went to where the "little brown ones" live -- the transparently intolerant here are raising the issue.
Doesn't it ever concern you how apparent your biases are, and how ethnically and nationalistically charged they are?
I'm in agreement with 6:22PM. Just because someone is sick and tired of being screwed by Huizar, doesn't mean that we "hate" him. Just paying my DWP bill is enough of a constant reminder in itself of his lying disregard of his constituents. The Mexican book fair and other trips bleeding the city is just salt in the wounds. All his lying just rubs it in.
And can anyone tell me what community involvement or betterment Huizar was involved in before getting elected? Didn't think so.
I thought the mole was Erik Martell.
Wasn't there a post saying that he was socializing with Rudy's people?
Here's your "Hedline" for tomorrow, oh illiterate one. As predicted here, Highland Park thinks Huizar's lists are "funny" - not "sinister"...
http://highlandpark-ca.patch.com/articles/huizar-constituent-lists-evoking-more-bemusement-than-outrage-in-highland-park
If you would have ONLY listened to me when I commented this YESTERDAY about the NELA blogs that I know you read -- this could have been "Exclusiv" here.
They're LAUGHING, not bolting from Huizar.
BUH bye Rudy, Mission NOT accomplished.
When does Huizar's List of Women hit the public? And Men? Huizar is a big liar and cheater, long before he tied the knot with Mrs. Huizar. While they dated he cheated with a motor mouth named Sonia on the CRA Project Area Committee of Adelante Redevelopment Project. Several beer drinking sessions that lead to too many nights of fun which now has continued at a different time in his life? Now he is married and still cheats...
OMG!!!! Emails are flying all over the city how Huizar and Parke Skelton are in pr crisis mode and telling staffers and supporters to continue to hit hard on this blog. Good news for Mayor Sam because show credibility otherwise they wouldn't care. While they're behaving like crybabies because the negative press has hit Huizar hard and another big story is in the works, the smart MARTINEZ campaigners are working smarter and harder on the other end making things happen. Huizar groupies can spin all they want the fact is when you have the LA Times, LA WEekly, Radio, the interent and citywide thousands of community members typing away about those "LISTS" each day its looking badly for Huizar.
11:03
Why Zacatecas?
Why not Chiapas, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua et al
OK, reading all of this made me dizzy. I think the person who is giving Rudy info is..." Ana Cubas".
8:54 DITTO
List the ladies that you claim Huizar had counter with besides Sonia??
8:47 - Zacatecas is Huizar's birthplace. He's very proud of that fact and mentions it often.
11:03
The "charges" you made appear more appropriate to your comment.
I did not bring up race, only economics and favoritism apparent in the dealing.
No race-card should be thrown in to support a bad condition.
The references to other gifts of city declared suplus property is also deserving of examination. The focus here is Huizar's actions, not the council, although they did sign off, indicationg approval. Such council approval only makes the action procede. It still does not make it a proper action. To transfer property with substantial value in a times of fiscal distress just is not good for L.A.
It's not entirely solving the L.A. budget problem, but less money for the city means a need for more tax dollars to be collected or for jobs or hours to be cut. The council usually goes firt to the former and not the latter.
And if this were fire engines involved, the value of a fully equipped engine is huge, as I expect an ambulance would be pretty high, and more if its at any level "furnished" with equipment beyond the bare vehicle. Used, the value is less but it's not negligible, nor is it about "junk" vehicles.
The fact is, contrary to what's stated in your comment is "unusable" when the gift was for the purpose of being used. You may notice the property was declared "suplus" not "unusable" or "junk"- otherwise why give junk to the recipient city if they can't use it.
NO, the value would be something helping the city's budget, but the gift giving is just too ingrained with council members. The LAFD maintenance of its vehicles is at a level supported by pride and the necessity of reliability.
The retired ambulances do have substantial re-sale value, enough so that the recipient welcomes the gifts. The fact of this going out of the country means that the aid is not afforded to stay within the U.S. economy, the "helping hand" function bypasses helping conditions within the U.S.
Spin as you will, the continued reliance on prejudicial motives relating to ethnicity or race or any other such category other than financial and proper principles of operation in government shows me that you are sold aleady on such things, regardless of any facts.
To put it differently, what would it take to present the actions as simply an example of poor choioes relative to the operation of city government and not part of the claimed presence of bias in the interpretation?
Mentioning the country of Mexico is the fact of the transaction. The transfer anywhere outside the US would have the same impact, but the hometowning by Jose adds more to this deal.
Does this mean Jose can do anything without being subject to scrutiny as to motives or merit if he ties it to "Mexico"? Your comment seem to go that way, leaving Jose's or any other CM free to make any spending decisioins as long as they include a connection to Mexico, or maybe just Mexicans. I don't accept that reasoning and I am not using that to create my views when the simpler description is what it's about.
Spinners/staffers, serial posters relying on "anonymous" labels to put comments, and maybe replies to their own comments, are going to do what they choose but that's my comment.
And I don't "hate" Huizar- why is that a need? Others can operate that way. It's not a level useful to me for addressing the issues and Jose has always been very personable when we meet, but I don't want to see another 4 years of the same thing happening for the city.
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Huizar dont trust Ana Cubas, she a snack...
10:26am
are you the mole?
She is known as "ATM" Cubas and it has nothing to do with getting money out.
THE HUIZAR SITE, HE LOVES IT! QUESTION,ARE YOU CHANGING ANYTHING? ANSWER! NO! IT'S CALLED VOTE THEM OUT. ONE DAY MAYBE YOU'LL GET WITH IT. WERE ALL WAITING.
It's Tara Devine...
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