"Don't Ask Don't Tell" has Ended, 1993-2010
"Don't Ask Don't Tell" turns into "Don't Care", finally! Welcome home Gay and Lesbian military personnel!
In related news, John McCain blows a gasket.
Labels: DADT
Posted by Unknown @ 12/18/2010 08:14:00 PM
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Joe B. Political pundit on all matters local and national. Got the last laugh on McCain. Yeah, you did.
@PhilJennerjahn Phil Jennerjahn
@ariannahuff Quiet down, dingbat. I don't need a Greek Socialist and Obama voter telling me what's best for our military.
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What a douche bag.
Excellent that DADT dies, and excellent that amnesty for illegals (aka the dream act) died, too.
Most people in the middle, as I am, agree with both.
Thankfully, we're beginning to remember that this is a center-right country.
I never understood DADT - it stuck me as a stupid compromise. On reflection I think, perhaps, it was a necessary evil to bridge the gap between intolerant homophobes and "in your face" activists.
Quite honestly, if gays and lesbians are brave enough to fight for our country, then more power to them. Our politicians place our servicemen and women in the midst of horribly awkward situations where they're often expected to fight with one arm tied behind their backs and die for causes that were never what they first seemed to be.
The death of DADT marks the end of a hard fought campaign, and a major victory in the overall scheme of things. Let's hope Prop 8 goest the same way.
Phil:
It's that pesky freedom of speech thing again. I imagine that in your America only those who agree with you are allowed to give their opinions.
Joe B. = Hater of the U.S.
I agree with 10:50.
There is no reason McCain can give to continue DADT, except that some old codgers and a few younger rednecks don't feel comfortable with gays. That's just TS.
The Dream Act on the other hand was an attempt to get a foot in the door of giving amnesty to most illegals. It IS too bad for the kids who have lived here their whole lives and worked hard, but they can thank their parents for their legal problems. Anyone who got "in" would drag in their parents, siblings, extended relations with them, then they'd marry foreign nationals and bring THEIR families and so on. N-O.
While it makes some sense to give a break/ step up in line in limited cases, like if they serve in the military (but no reason to give them as foreigners a break on state college tuition over Americans from another state), the law as written was too hard to enforce. No way would the government be able to or should it, have to spend a fortune verifying when each kid came here, how "worthy" they are etc. The PR has focused on a top few academic achievers, but you can't cut it off at "A or B" high achievers. In reality it would be an open door mess.
The argument these kids of illegals are being kept from higher education is just stupid. They can pay the out of state rate and in fact, with their being kids of uneducated immigrants and Latino, almost always get a break on SAT scores and admission preferences over middle-class whites. (The REAL unlucky ones are whites, Asians or wealthier ethnics too rich for scholarship, too poor to afford full tuition.)
Today's LA Times, Fishwrap of Former Record, highlights one such atypical high achiever who will be sent back (in this case, to the Philippines), highlights a valid point, that in cases like his, where the dad was an assassination target for political work, the INS is way too tough in granting asylum.
HOWEVER it's alleged that guy's dad had an idiot lawyer -clearly - and again, he is a rare case as a high achiever. And notice how the Slimes, when it's got a liberal reporter, often picks a NON-LATINO to make the point? They've also used Asians, an an Irish person. When those cases are the exception but they figure these people will tug on the heartstrings more.
Very deceptive, part of the Slimes' pattern of using the "news" to push whatever opinion the writer has.
The actual opinion section on the other hand, under Newton-Greene, skews RIGHT. Very right. And very kiss-assy to the rich right. They got kicked in the teeth on Kamala's surprise win. Surprise to them, anyway. Despite their negative stories on Harris, and puff pieces on Cooley, the voters now had other sources to be more aware than during the snowjob for the Fixer from Long Beach. Who in fact, was on of Cooley's Achilles heels. They're often at odds with the liberal writers like on this story, making the paper just schizophrenic.
So some call it liberal, others conservative - depends on who is writing what. What happens without a publisher who can steer the rudder.
No one even there, has supported DADT however. Thank goodness McCain didn't get elected. Whatever Obama's limitations, remember who was the alternative.
Superb 11:49am. 10:50am here.
Unfortunately, Joe doesn't recognize amnesty when he sees it, and I respectfully think that he is one of those lefties who lies to put a soft name ("The Dream Act") on something to make it seem like something other than what it is.
But I strongly suggest that things like this are coming to an end for at least a generation.
I have no doubt that no matter what happens in 2011 and 2012, Obama won't be able to stop the Romney train. We had a black president, so having a Mormon or Jew is no longer such a far-fetched concept. And Romney made himself a few hundred million as a consulting executive, and he learned his lesson from Romneycare in Massachusetts.
Romney will be in for two terms, and then his veep, most likely Chris Christie or Marco Rubio, will get two more terms, and that's a generation for you.
The Obama experiment is over. Americans do not want their president to label them as "enemies" and to call cops "stupid" or to have Eric Holder testify on the Arizona law when he admitted that he never read it. The country wised up.
It's too bad Al Gore didn't have any balls to defend his campaign. He lost the presidency by 3,000 or so votes, and conceded, rescinding his concession, and ultimately gave us Bush, who turned out to be pretty good.
And you can be sure of one thing: George W. Bush IS much more gracious as ex pres than Obama will be after his one term.
I can already see Obama turned into the modern version of Bitter Jimmuh Carter. Mark my words. Obama will play the race card,and be a bitter man for the rest of his life.
The problem I have with "DADT" in the Military is regarding health and safety issues. If someone acquires HIV while in the service and keeps it under wraps and then they are severly wounded overseas, what happens when the rescuers who are so anxious to save that person whose blood is running freely, that they don't have time use proper precautions and they themselves could have open wounds. One example is recently honored Marine, Salvatore Giunte, who rescued a severely injured team member from the enemy and carried him back to safety.
He certainly didn't have time to ask him about his health or take necessary precautions for his own health and safety. . I'm not saying his team member had HIV, but what if he did?
9:13 - are you really so ignorant as to think that only gay people get HIV? When is the last time YOU were tested?
Liberals overreached huge in 2009 and 2010 but were too stupid to grab the prize. It's too late now.
Did anyone see Vladimir Putin on Larry King a few weeks ago? Larry asked him if Russia had any restrictions of gays in the military. Putin said no, they don't. He said the Soviets had some restrictions, but not modern day Russia. He didn't even understand why the US has a problem with it in the first place. This is Russia. A country we always point to when discussing dictatorships and lack of freedom. LOL. It's really embarrassing.
Anonymous said...
Obama won't be able to stop the Romney train.
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LOL!
DON'T DON'T TELL ALWAYS WAS A STUPID BIT OF POLITICAL THEATER. GAYS HAVE BEEN IN THE MILLITARY WHEN WASHINGTON CROSSED THE POTOMAC AMERICA WAKE UP! WE HAVE OTHER FISH TO FRY.
One should empathize with those generals who were snapping and barking to prevent DODT being torn from their clenched grip.
"don't ask, don't tell" has proven an incredibly effective tool in the smooth management of a war on the cash basis accounting system. Such as the war in Afghanistan the past 10 years.
A C-130 arrives monthly at Bagram
holding a crateload of greenbacks still wet from the Bureau of Printing and Engraving.
The crate gets cracked open and broken out into stacks for the commanders.
The stacks then divide into bundles for section leaders to dispense in purchasing the essentials of a successful war effort.
Assistance,friendship, information, cooperation, protection, food, gas, lodging.
The bookkeeping and receipts are kept lean and mean.
"Don't ask for proof of where all the cash went. Don't go blabbing that you think I may have kept some for myself" would be the longform version of DODT.
A bothersome whistleblower can always be short-circuited by filing a report that he was heard to offer an unsolicited description of preference for the disallowed same gender.
The hearsay evidence does not need to be corroborated. Therefore it may be denied by the accused, but it is impossible to disprove.
The accused gets automatically dismissed and any whistleblowing becomes instantly discredited.
It has been a wonderfuly profitable ten years in Afghanistan, but all good things must finally go to rest.
At last the military is being made to establish and operate a traditional bureaucracy for the approval, financing and oversight of the projects which will eventually help us "turn the corner" with the gentle tribes of Afghan.
So also the generals must wave good-bye to DODT - this beautiful mechanism for protecting the practice of theft.
Hey, 3:44. Bozo, it's DADT not DODT
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