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Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Final Results of CD 2 Special Election

"The new official symbol of CD 2"

It's Final....

TAMAR GALATZAN 1,871 12.94 (3)
JOZEF "JOE" THOMAS ESSAVI 306 2.12 (9)
** CHRISTINE ESSEL 4,104 28.39 (2)
MICHAEL MC CUE 339 2.35 (8)
PETE SANCHEZ 699 4.84 (5)
DAVID "ZUMA DOGG" SALTSBURG 410 2.84 (7)
FRANK SHEFTEL 441 3.05 (6)
** PAUL KREKORIAN 4,929 34.10 (1)
MARY BENSON 1,198 8.29 (4)
AUGUSTO BISANI 158 1.09 (10)

** denotes runoff candidates.

We now return you to your regular programming.
** The "Westside White Guy" states this in his rant about the CD 2 results. "The so-called community candidates? Couldn't break three figures". Hmmm., how many many numbers/figures are in Mary Benson's vote total?? 1-1-9-8 = four numbers/figures. Maybe his eyes are still adjusting after viewing "these"??

Your thoughts...................

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94 Comments:

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

Congratulations CD 2 voters!

Mark your calendars...December 8th, 2009 !

You now have a choice between:

A) A Budget-Destroying Socialist, or

B) The Queen Bee of Special Interests.

One will be your next City Council Member!

Enjoy!

September 23, 2009 12:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7th place = A trip back to loserville!

HA HA HA ZUMA DOGG, WE ALL TOLD YOU SO! Pack up your tin cup, Pay Pal card and burn your one dark outfit and get your ass back to Malibu or whatever rock you crawled out from under.

It is SO over that the CMs are probably DYING to see you go there and make public comment as a SEVENTH place loser!

Shit, in a much bigger race you ended up fourth or fifth. But with just three monied opponents, you came in SEVENTH!

I'm going to sleep extremely well tonight but hope you keep coming to city hall because you're now an official, 2-time loser and sad sack. I can't wait to see the expression on the CMs face the next time you mispronounce their names, act rudely, act boorishly, act immaturely, and have to wait four hours after Friday festivities before you get your lousy 2 minutes to speak.

You==credibility gone.
You==still jobless.
You==more of a debawlled failure than ever.

All that "I'm blessed to be here and people love me" crap never sold!

September 23, 2009 1:05 AM  

Blogger Joseph Mailander said:

The election day turnout especially is very depressing indeed.

Essel paid about $45 a vote! That could be a new record for a "successful" candidate.

September 23, 2009 1:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The machine is alive and well! Congrats to all the candidates (not Essel or Krackorian) that ran honorable campaigns! Just sorry that money talks and grassroots walks.

September 23, 2009 1:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

@Joseph Mailander: $45/vote? She spent $321,464.57 for 4,104 votes. That's almost $80/vote.

September 23, 2009 1:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Joe "noone" cares what it cost Essel. She won, and your gal lost. Stop trying to figure out a way to put a favorable spin on a loss.

I don't think Tamar is feeling great that, even though she lost, the votes she got only cost $30 per.

A win is a win, and a loss is a loss. Only crybabies try to make excuses.

September 23, 2009 1:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Question-

When they say an election is bought, does that mean the voters are bought by all the advertisements, signs and mailers?
Or, does it mean the ballot counters are bought?

September 23, 2009 2:00 AM  

Blogger Joseph Mailander said:

$80 a vote! I'm stunned! That's obscene!

Who the hell has got it in for Zuma? I don't get that. He was more articulate on issues than Essel was. He spent about $0.01 a vote. With Essel's money he might have won 80% of the District.

September 23, 2009 2:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Higby, you never asked the question, how much is Hacopian paying you to run his campaign for him? Notice, he never even had an election site since why would he need one after THIS for months? And absurd as it may be, the Weakly writers use THIS as their "source" for further wild speculation and nonsense. Like how the Catholic Church was maliciously manipulating the election. And NO I'm not Joe Mailander. Just someone ELSE who wasn't a C student at Idaho State.

September 23, 2009 2:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I respect you DOGG for having convictions and stayingtrue to the people, your not a sell out, fuck these jerks who get off by putting you down. I see ya for who you are. Your DEEP. you have gifts you need to tap into, your day will come and then let these ass wipes eat shit. Your No.! with me an my crew Dogg.

September 23, 2009 4:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Now, here is my previous prediction:

The others coalesce behind Chris Esel (The Floating Vessel)and she kicks the Taxer and Spender from Sacramento in the Runoff.

September 23, 2009 5:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is special for you Red spot.
Posted on Kevin's site.

...A political type who attended the ACLU garden party on Sunday in Brentwood says the autographed photo of Mayor Villaraigosa, priced at $100, had no bids — while the Hannah Montana-autographed guitar went for over $500.

September 23, 2009 6:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Thanks to all the stupid voters that voted for these 2 carpetbaggers, one backed by the corrupt union SEIU and the other by the corrupt Mayor. You had the opportunity to effect some real change on the City Council and instead you have voted to continue BUSINESS AS USUAL and left us with a distasteful choice between 2 dreadful candidates. The other 14 idiots on the City Council can remain smug with their $179,000 salaries and all the perks since they can easily see that stupid voters were again swayed by expensive campaign mailers and TV ads rather than the facts. No wonder informed voters feel like giving up.

September 23, 2009 6:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mailander:

I don't think anyone "has it in" for Zuma. But I think people have had it up to here with his obnoxious behavior.

Being articulate is one thing. But Zuma is a rude, obnoxious guy and it wears on people. So does his screaming, yelling at Dion ODonnell, and all the others. Even the begging proved that the man didn't want to work in any job other than Mayor or City Council.

I think that the anger you're reading toward him is an extension of years of that. Try going to city hall some day to support or challenge a subject and have to deal with a disruption like those he has caused for years. The frustration you're reading about him will be apparent.

September 23, 2009 6:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Cash register politics at work- are you stupid voters happy with BUSINESS AS USUAL?? That's what you've got with these 2. The other 14 smug idiots on City Council can feel safe with all their big salaries and perks since voters are so easily bamboozled by slick expensive ads.

September 23, 2009 6:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Can someone put in a link to precinct breakdown?

September 23, 2009 6:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What special interest could possibly be interested in CD2? We've chased away every possible chance of development or even redevelopment. So it's down to a person who appears to want do good for the community or a person who is using the community for a stepping stone. I'd check with the CD2 staff and see who they like.

September 23, 2009 6:56 AM  

Anonymous matt dowd said:

this proves that most people don't know what's going on downtown, don't care, and won't care.

that leaves us free now to pursue our litigation.

yesterday in our ninth circuit mediation the City was offering us money to settle. [less than what the court already ordered]
we said too little too late....

so nothing happened....and yet they wanted confidentiality over that.
no. theres nothing confidential about the fact we didn't settle.
its business as usual, just like CD2.

September 23, 2009 7:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8 people are waking up this morning with the new name 'loossser,' but it's not just them, it's CD2 and the City of LA that lost here.

If LA is the biggest loser, Tamar Galatzan is the second biggest loser. Her $2M LAUSD credentials failed to wow the handful of CD2 voters that cast votes for her Villaraigosa buddies because of her ties to Jack Weiss.

Third biggest loser is our own Zuma Dogg, who never was going to win, but really should have made more of an impact.

Fourth, Walter Moore and Kevin James. Their support came too late for Mary Benson. Sure Walter supported her from the beginning on his blog, but it wasn't enough.

It's a blow to grassroots candidates who cannot get over their own egos to unite behind a frontrunner. Imagine, if the small 7 had been a united force, they would have worked together, walked the streets for a single candidate, and maybe scraped into third place. Not very encouraging is it.

September 23, 2009 7:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I would have given Christine Essel my vote in exchange for $80. Everything has a price tag. And times are tough. (For some of us, anyway.)

September 23, 2009 7:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Now its a choice between the lesser of two evils. Essel cannot be allowed to win. The Community activist bloggers must ban together to elect Mr. K. Essel is the Mayor's endorsement. Send the same message to City Hall by defeating whoever receives the Mayor's endorsement. This administration has taken the City in the wrong direction and the message must be sent to City Hall.

I am definitely going to circulate the petitions to cut the salaries of Council members.

September 23, 2009 7:52 AM  

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

This puts me in the uncomfortable position of having to support Chris Essel! Which I will now do -- 100%!

WHY? Because she's not Paul Krekorian.

Krekorian is in bed with the usual suspects...
The Democratic Party
Big labor unions, the SEIU...etc.

Basically, all the people who have created the problems we have here in Los Angeles because of their Socialist mindsets of ever-expanding government and ever increasing taxes and fees.

We already know exactly what we will get with Krekorian. We've already seen his handywork with the State budget up in Sacramento.

Now he wants to start dictating spending policies here in LA?

No, thank you.

Essel for CD 2.

September 23, 2009 7:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:05, still dwelling so much hate, you obviously enjoy pettyiness of the ZD attacks in all the most silly ways that matter to you.

Spending so much time on the negativity causes you obviouisdelight, but so typically, without any constructive thought to contribute as any redeeming feature to the post. THAT becomes the most telling part of your communication. You are the true loser.

"I can't wait to see the expression on the CMs face ..."
That ia another group of losers who sell out the public based on the expected outcomes, i.e., how THEY come out at the end. If it's going to cost them votes, you see them go back into the huddle with a new play to concoct. Offending union interests is to be avoided at all costs, all costs to all except the public and the city treasury as small as it is. And that was apparent last Friday where their gambles did not ever favor. or, ultimately, go in favor of the house.

CMs opinions of anything? THEY really should not be your measures of any SUCCESS when they do their overpaid jobs so poorly and act as if they actually solved anything other than what to put into future campaign brochures. You know that those publications don't have to contain any truths- any whatsoever- something very clear after yesterday's election? Yet they sell the candidate and will continue to be produced. There's no "Dept. of Consumer Affairs" in an election campaign.

And CMs really are not off the hook in the least. The should still be expecting justified attention from anyone's public oomment criticism- they still are guilty of malfeasance and non-feasance every single day that they hold office. They have bigger things to worry about than ZD, knowing that the volatility of a small turnout local election could end up in a shift of results by adding or subtracting a few more voters. And they clearly don't have to be "educated" or "knowledgeable" voters to matter in an election.

There are more elections ahead.

in cd-14

ZD's got action in getting the message out while others just try to hide the truth.

September 23, 2009 7:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Congrats, Higby! I hope your check doesn't bounce. . .

September 23, 2009 8:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Not bad, Ms. Mary Benson!

You had a divided District north of Lisa Sarkin and Judy Price thanks to Joe Barrett, et al.

You had meager funds in comparison with the machine candidates.

You had a machine with power, prestige, and money against you.

You had six candidates who refused to give up their campaign to back a grassroots winner.

You had party and religion bias slammed at you by the grossest of slimers.

And you still came in with 8.29% of the vote. You know why? Because your years of activism and knowledge made you the only candidate who knows the city and its issues.

You and those of us who supported you learned a lot and next time we will be a lot smarter.

Congratulations for sticking your neck out and showing the people that if they unite and get behind the best candidate, they can win.

The Sunland Tujunga, Lake View Terrace, Shadow Hills, La Tuna Canyon area has never lost a battle behind which we were united. We are known as the Rock. Here's to deflation of the puffing egos that divided this community. May it never happen again!

September 23, 2009 8:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Are you aware the City intends to raise the cost of filing an appeal by 85 times - from $73 to $6,200?

Oligarchy Alert!

September 23, 2009 8:18 AM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

Mary Benson for City Council -- in 2011!

She can, and will, start fund-raising next month, i.e., 18 months before the election.

Let's all get behind her, shall we? She finished first among the grassroots. And unless more people contribute, the machine will continue to own City Hall.

You don't have to contribute $500. Contribute $25 when she forms her new committee. Every dollar helps.

September 23, 2009 8:19 AM  

Blogger bill eats at sizzler said:

$80 a vote--she could have walked into any Sizzler and bought all the votes she needed for $14.95! But that's the way it goes, doesn't it?

Hey, Kiddo! That's what you get for voting--nothing! I'm not voting for no socialist, no carpetbagger, no westsider, no eastsider, nobody named Dogg, no Minutewoman, no wannabe Rastafarian. I'm not voting again! I'm not protesting, I'm just eating every day and loving it!

September 23, 2009 8:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

EXAMPLE OF PHIL'S DELUSIONAL THINKING:

"This puts me in the uncomfortable position of having to support Chris Essel! Which I will now do -- 100%!"

YES, I AM SURE THAT IS WHAT'S ON HER MIND. NOT! I WILL QUOTE ZUMATARD, "I'M HERE TO TELL YOU PEOPLE" THAT IF PHIL JENNERJAHN SUPPORTS A CANDIDATE, IT'S THE SUREST SIGN THAT YOU SHOULD SUPPORT THAT CANDIDATE'S OPPONENT.


IT'S FUNNY HOW PHIL REFERRED TO US A FEW DAYS AGO AS "THE PEANUT GALLERY" BUT DOESN'T REALIZE THAT THE CANDIDATES, CERTAINLY THE MAJOR ONES, SEE HIM THE SAME WAY. THAT GUY PHIL WHO COULDN'T FINISH A WHOLE YEAR OF LAW SCHOOL. THAT GUY PHIL WHO FINISHED LAST FOR MAYOR,AND THINKS HE IS GOING TO RUN FOR CONGRESS.

THANKS FOR THE BIGGEST LAUGH OF THE WEEK PHIL. YOU ARE A LIKABLE BUT VERY NAIVE DUDE, DUDE.

September 23, 2009 8:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:11 if it comes from the State Assembly account used to pay Hacopian then Higby is safe.

September 23, 2009 8:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'd like to see NOONE vote in the next round.

September 23, 2009 8:34 AM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

I met Eric Hacopian last night for the first time and asked for my check. He just shook my hand.

September 23, 2009 8:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, I've fired just about everyone except Parke now.

If I could just fire Shallman, my day would be made. He must be a Turk.

Eric Hacopian

September 23, 2009 8:40 AM  

Blogger Red Spot in CD 14 said:

8:24 AM

See no problem with that check considering these payments.

EDH & ASSOCIATES CAMPAIGN CONSULTANTS $6,000.00
EDH & ASSOCIATES CAMPAIGN CONSULTANTS $2,000.00
EDH & ASSOCIATES CAMPAIGN CONSULTANTS $2,000.00
EDH & ASSOCIATES CAMPAIGN CONSULTANTS $2,000.00
EDH & ASSOCIATES CAMPAIGN CONSULTANTS $2,000.00
EDH & ASSOCIATES CAMPAIGN CONSULTANTS $2,000.00
EDH & ASSOCIATES CAMPAIGN CONSULTANTS $2,000.00

Loan repayment??

Your thoughts......

September 23, 2009 8:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Instead of PayPal love for Zuma Dogg, it's now time for TOUGH love for him.

September 23, 2009 8:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Word is Irving Noone is backing Krekorian, but Irving's brother Edwin Noone is throwing his support behind Essel.

September 23, 2009 8:40 AM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

Total folly to think if all the "grassroots" candidates "banded together" they would have won. Counting up the votes of everyone who didn't vote for Paul, Chris or Tamar you get 25%. Essel still would have won assuming even if 25% of the people could have supported any of the grassroots candidates.

In 2002, when Joel Wachs resigned, You had two establishment candidates (Greuel and Cardenas) and only one "grassroots" candidate, Jamie Cordaro. Jamie got about 10%. So your theory didn't hold here.

Once again it comes down to actually going out and getting votes. Not buying hats, bumper stickers, baking cookies, passing out chocolates, spinning on Mayor Sam, etc.

Do that right and work your ass off and you'll win.

Paul Krekorian had 1/3 the money Essel had and came out ahead. Why? Because he ran a strong GOTV operation and had 200 volunteers.

If grassroots candidates want to win they have to get serious. Until then they never will.

September 23, 2009 8:45 AM  

Blogger Charlie Cheswick said:

Very good Mr. Higby. For all of the talk about "grassroots" candidates, they ALL lacked the ability to recognize that fact that they had no chance at all. Real grassroots candidates would have recognized the inevitability and sized up the situation.

They were either in it because of ego, or because of naivete. Too big an ego means that they wouldn't have put the effort in to helping the most electable of them (Benson or Dogg) and naivete means that they thought they were going to win.

September 23, 2009 8:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I agree with 5:29 they should all get behind Chris while she is probably sleeping the mayor at least I dont' feel that i need to use sanitizer on my hands when around the carpet bagger from Burbank. We all loose with either of these choices. It is to bad that good did not win over evil. Will the DA check to see if the eventual winner actually lives in the district? Will Chris get lost going home to CD 2 or will we get Mr. Bendover for the unions. Stay tuned.

September 23, 2009 9:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Does anyone (or "NOONE") believe that Zuma Dogg is spending this morning trying to solicit a job offer from BOTH Krekorian and Essel in exchange for his support?

This is where ZD was sorely in need of better judgement. NOONE is going to hire someone who rants all day long about "Crackwhorian" and whatever names he called Essel.

If the man was truly smart, he would have prepared for this likely outcome of the primary and positioned himself to get a job (the thing he needs more than the council job) and turned his life around and given him the best chance for a future election.

I wish ZD had thought of that because he did have something to contribute. It would have placed him in the center of the storm and getting a check and the respect he craved.

September 23, 2009 9:05 AM  

Blogger Petra Fried in the City said:

Mary did extremely well with basically no funding for a campaign. I'm proud of her.

Looks like I campaign for Paul Krekorian now.

At least I voted for who I thought was the best for the community, not 'who I thought could win'.

Onward and upward.

September 23, 2009 9:15 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Red Spot, you are blaming this somehow on the Democratic party? Seriously? With all of the money that Essel got and had to drive SO MUCH FARTHER than Krekorian to get into CD 2 and you have a picture of a donkey?

The "activists" of CD 2, who I usually love fucked up big time with their "support" of someone who wasn't going to win the whole district. Tamar? For real??

To those that stayed true to Mary, you should hope that she endorses Krekorian because anti-community Essel is the last person they need as a council member.

If NC's go for Essel over Krekorian or if Essel WINS (god forbid), then neighborhood councils really have zero power.

I know that isn't what CD 2 wants to hear.

Go Paul. Anybody but Essel.

September 23, 2009 9:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

We must defeat Essel. The contest is now the lesser of two evils. The grassroots internet campaign needs to group to defeat the Villaraigosa candidate. We must continue to send a message to City Hall by defeating the candidates backed by the Mayor.

September 23, 2009 9:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma is moving on and you losers STILL cannot stop talking about him!

September 23, 2009 9:22 AM  

Blogger Petra Fried in the City said:

Oh yes. Since I felt the love behind the scenes from this guy personally, I do feel obliged to say this:

Great campaign for Sheftel, David Hernandez. Your magic touch did Frank about as much good as it did Guillermo Huesca. I don't think Eric Hacopian will be losing any sleep wondering how many clients he'll lose to you. Luv ya much.

September 23, 2009 9:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So the real race is on. Maybe Krekorian's camp should borrow from the smarmy campaign ad used by Shallman in the Weiss/Trutanich campaign. It should have Essel as the lap dog to Villaraigosa. No make that two lap dogs, including Greuel.

September 23, 2009 9:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

IT'S OVER!!!!! LET'S GET ESSEL OUT BY DECEMBER.

Bastard Antonio always taking credit for LAPD shit. Who the hell does he think he is standing at the press conf. His Village Idiot GANG Czar had nothing to do with the gang sweep of brutual gang bangers on tuesday morning but there's Antonio who officers hate standing at the podium. And for you loyal Homies fans this is what everyone has always said about Homeboy Industries.

...In another wiretapped interview, Rudy Aguirre Jr. said he would allow a gang member named Anthony Rodriguez to continue to work for Richie Aguirre, who was controlling drugs in county jail from his prison cell, once he got out of county jail, if he was not restricted to a supervised halfway house. Rodriguez said he would stay out of the halfway house by claiming he had a legitimate job and that he would get a letter of support from the director of Homeboy Industries.

September 23, 2009 9:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

THAT DOES IT, PAUL IS GONNA WIN...THE KISS OF DEATH FOR CHRIS BELOW:

Phil Jennerjahn said...
This puts me in the uncomfortable position of having to support Chris Essel! Which I will now do -- 100%!

WHY? Because she's not Paul Krekorian.

Krekorian is in bed with the usual suspects...
The Democratic Party
Big labor unions, the SEIU...etc.

Basically, all the people who have created the problems we have here in Los Angeles because of their Socialist mindsets of ever-expanding government and ever increasing taxes and fees.

We already know exactly what we will get with Krekorian. We've already seen his handywork with the State budget up in Sacramento.

Now he wants to start dictating spending policies here in LA?

No, thank you.

Essel for CD 2.

September 23, 2009 7:56 AM

September 23, 2009 9:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

add tot he loser list: David Hernandez.

Don't believe frank? ask guillermo huesca! Serioulsy David, stop touting yourself as a campaign manager/strategist/consultant. you give guys like eric hacopian, skelton, shallaman and acevedo a bad name. at least they win...

September 23, 2009 9:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:14 am, blame everyone but yourself, eh?

September 23, 2009 10:04 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'll take A.

He hasn't been there long enough to be a budget destroyer and I wish I could be a registered Socialist. It seems that Socialist countries do much better than our Capitalistic society.

Paul For CD 2!!

September 23, 2009 10:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma is crowing this morning about Deming and his marketing books, losing site of the irony that he wasn't able to implement Deming's points or successfully market himself in either campaign or out of homelessness.

I feel so bad for him every time he mentioned Deming because it was like he crowed about reading a book, as if it meant anything. What mattered was not crowing, but applying those theories to his own life.

"NOONE" believes that he really read those books.

September 23, 2009 10:15 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:05 AM - get some sleep.

Zuma, I think you did pretty well considering that Mary Benson has so much credibility in CD 2 and nobody really got the vote out. It's a pathetic turnout for so many "grassroots" candidates. Pathetic.

But the DN endorsed two of the candidates who you had to run against and supposedly Sheftel had a full on office, an endorsement or two AND money and you still equaled him.

I'm sorry you lost. CD 2 will be even more sorry.

It's the jokers at 1 AM that have always spurred you on. Don't let them win.

We hate the Zuma-haters!

When they use all caps and say, "we all told you so". Um, no... we didn't. Some of us truly wanted you to win.

Of course you got more votes in a city wide election. None of us outside of CD 2 could vote for you.

But the key thing to remember is that we would have if we could have.

I'm sorry that the money won. It's something that you always say and you're always right.

September 23, 2009 10:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil - You 7:56a comment just made my day. It made it so easy to say what I have been wanting to say for weeks. You are the most ignorant so and so ever!!!!
I know you are on your self proclaimed crusade to get every liberal out of politics, but do you ever listen to ANYTHING any candidate says, or you just to busy hearing your own delusional mind at work?!?!?!
Let me get this straight, YOU, the let's call everyone out and make government safer for got knows who minority, would rather support an educated Mayoral Puppet, rather than an assembly man - who MIGHT - actually work imdependently?!?!
Now I am not a PK supporter. I wanted one of the 8, but serious between Essel & Krekorian, this city - including YOU - is best served by Krekorian. Essel cannot answer a question without the words scripted for her. We have seen it at every forum!!!

Phil, this woman represents EVERYTHING you rail against. Sorry they are both liberals, but hey feel free to move to another state.
Perhaps Utah or Arizona.

Oh and by the way, while you are on your CONSERVATIVES CAN SAVE THE COUNTRY CRUSADE - Read and have someone explain the Newspapers from the last 8 - 9 years (Higby, help the man). Two questions for you to answer:
1/ What was the political leanings of our last President - yeah the guy who got us into the financial mess we are in?

2/ What is the political leaning of the current governor of the state of California?

I'm a nice person, I will give you the answer to help you start reevaluating your misguided thesis...THEY WERE BOTH CONSERVATIVES. Conservatives had led us to near bankruptcy and destroyed the banking system.

What was the leaning of the President which brought us to strong financial times...(Phil, I know this will hurt you)..LIBERAL..(Worse his name was Clinton).

September 23, 2009 10:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Krekorian wins in a walk.

$450,000 in spending and the best Essel can do is 27%?

Good luck.

September 23, 2009 10:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

My opinion is that elections are bought in two ways and neither of them are the ballot counters.

Special interest money who will have business in the council district, such as developers, hospital expansions, owners of Home Depots, golf course developers, etc. is one.

Then there are the lobbyists for the developers and the developers who don't have business in the district but will need votes from that council person. Home Depots, hospital expansions, billboard companies, unions, etc. is the second and they are only a little bit different.

Then with all that money, the candidate is able to send shiny paper mailers (usually featuring a family picture with a Golden Retriever) bashing the other candidate and generally fooling the average voter who can't really name their current councilperson.

Sad, but true.

That is my answer to 2 AM.

September 23, 2009 10:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Right on Joe Mailander in your 2:19 comment!

Zuma with money? It makes one realize how important that clean money campaign is. Zuma was the most articulate of all the candidates. Who has it in for him? It's got to be somebody he's exposed or somebody who is very afraid of him.

September 23, 2009 10:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Higby after you met Eric Hacopian last night and he shook your hand did he hand you a cigar or did he twitch and tell you to f*** yourself. Because not matter how much you help his cheating candidate he hate people like you.

September 23, 2009 10:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey 10:22 that's what they said aboutt Cardenas only for Wendy Greuel beat him in the run off.

September 23, 2009 10:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey 10:17 - an awful lot of us who could have got out the vote for Mary were busy with something called The Station Fire until not too terribly long ago. Please remember that.

September 23, 2009 10:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil - 10:22a gave me the opening to say what I have been wanting to say to you for weeks.

"Phil, you ignorant slut!"

Yup at best your an SNL sketch..

Right on 10:22a. Phil read up!

September 23, 2009 10:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bullshit 6:46 AM. I've been to City Hall to council meetings and I've watched them on television. He's uncovered something on you or your boss and you're pissed. Go away with your Zuma-bashing.

You and your grand total of 5 blog-homies are the only ones who are interested in reading the same old shit about Zuma.

Zuma scares people like you to death. His yelling at anyone is two minutes of your day, 3 days a week. I hope he uncovers something big about you next without even knowing who you are.

September 23, 2009 10:31 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Looks like Elaine & Nina are working overtime this morning to spin the loss of Mary Benson. Go get some sleep ladies, you're starting to sound delusional.

September 23, 2009 10:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh right 6:56 AM. Check with WENDY'S staff and see who WENDY likes? You are hilarious. Who the hell do you think they're going to like?

How about doing the opposite of what the former staff of Wendy Greuel thinks!

Go Paul.

September 23, 2009 10:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let me see, a picture of the mayor or a GUITAR from one of the kids' most popular singers. Which might go for more? Hm, that's a toughie.

But if you hate the mayor, you'll really hate his woman Chris. And I don't mean his anchor-kind of woman. I mean his endorsement-kind of woman.

If you love the mayor, you'll love Chris Essel.

September 23, 2009 10:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nope 9:05 AM -

Nobody believes that Zuma is trying to get a job from either of the candidates this morning. That's your warped hatred of Zuma. You wake up with him on your mind and start posting rumors? You sick fuck.

September 23, 2009 10:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pretty good write up from Caletics site in Sacramento.


Los Angeles Council District 2: Krekorian vs. Essel

by: Dante Atkins (hekebolos)

Wed Sep 23, 2009 at 00:48:34 AM PDT

Well, I got the main part of my prediction correct regarding the outcome of the 2nd Council District race. The other...not so much.

With full results in:

Krekorian: 4,929 (34.1%)
Essel: 4,104 (28.39%)
Galatzan: 1,874 (12.94)

Upshot: we'll have a runoff election on December between Paul Krekorian and Chris Essel, and I'm expecting Krekorian's first-place finish (with room to spare) to encourage people to start considering the possibility of an open seat in the 43rd a little more strongly. But as students of politics, what can we learn?

First, election day is no longer election day. For the first time that I can remember in a campaign that wasn't mail-only, more ballots were cast via absentee than in person. Total turnout in this election was 11.74%, a total of 14,525 ballots. And of those, 54.64% were cast by absentee.

With less than half the votes being cast on election day, the importance of GOTV weekend field becomes significantly diminished. Instead, the election seems to become more about who can raise the early money and generate the early field operation to reach the absentee voters--a fact which Judy Chu made abundantly clear on May 19th.

Just like Chu did in May, Krekorian seems to have done that here. While Krekorian finished up election day with a hair over 34% of the vote, he got over 39% of the absentee vote (you'll have to trust me on that because that data isn't available online right now and I didn't cache it). Galatzan, on the other hand, gained a couple of points, while Essel stayed in roughly the same place.

I think it's about time for campaigns in special elections like this to realize that absentee ballot drop week is the new GOTV weekend. In CA-32, fully a quarter of the ballots were cast by absentee. That seemed high at the time. Now it's over half in this election. People just aren't going to the polls any more for special elections, and that needs to be taken into account by any campaign that's worth its salt.

Now, we have more than two months of campaigning left, but my initial prognostication says that Krekorian will win this in December. First, turnout will be even lower than before, increasing the importance of the absentees. Second, the election will be in December, which means that it could be cold or rainy, further depressing turnout in an electorate that skews older. It wouldn't surprise me to see 60% of the ballots cast in the runoff to come from absentees.

One last note: Eric Hacopian is probably the hottest mail consultant in the state right now. Fresh from engineering Emmanuel Pleitez' head-turning campaign in CA-32, Hacopian turns around and gives Krekorian a handy victory in the 2nd Council District primary. Nice going.

September 23, 2009 10:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

All 7 "smaller candidates" combines would not have made the run-off. A "winning candidate" needs mail, local advertisements on cable TV, calling lists, grass roots supporters and endorsements. The 7 should have united behind one a long time ago, but McCune is on the left and Essavi and Benson are on the right, so that is not possible.

September 23, 2009 10:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anyone who thinks that my zuma bashing is misguided.

I have no connection to anyone in city hall.

I am just a regular around these parts and think zuma dogg would have done very well for the city if he did not constantly SHOOT HIMSELF IN THE FOOT every chance he gets. Be it his rude obnoxious boorish immature behavior or sabotaging his campaign the day before the vote by threatening to leave the scene if he loses.

He is a bulletin: when a voter hears that someone threatens to leave if you don't elect him, it tells people that when the going gets rough the rough up and quit.

Granted it is okay for zuma to feel this way but it is just the type of thing you CANNOT SAY THE DAY BEFORE THE ELECTION.

That is unintentional sabotage and the reason he didn't make the runoff or come close to it. How else can you explain his getting on 410 votes? All of the also ran candidates were severely underfunded but only one of them had a high profile and still came in 7th place.

You know what they do with horses that come in 7th place in a 10 horse race? They become dog food. That is what zuma dogg is this morning. Dogg food.

September 23, 2009 10:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I have no doubt that zuma is scrambling for a job from Essel, Kerkorian or both of them this morning.

It's the thing he should have done a long while ago because it would have positioned him for a run in 2 and 4 years from now. It would have helped him get off the streets, a home, a quiet place with a bed and internet access and cash.


But more than anything it would have given him an "in" that he doesn't have this morning.

Zuma Dogg always spoke about people trading off campaigns in order for future jjobs. So he knows that this can be done and yet he still didn't recognize opportunities when they presented them. That's not smart because it was his big chance.

What was really dumb is that he blogged about getting offers on his blog but turned them down. To his credit, he turned them down. But he failed to see the BIG PICTURE and recognize it as the chance of a lifetime not just to do well for the city but for himself and his future.

He may be realizing that this morning and it's not ridiculous to imagine him scrambling to do now what he should have done all along.

At least he didn't take the job from Tamar. Fucking 2-job having, career climbing, Home Depot supporting via proxy liberal bitch with a grating voice. But he should have followed her lead to get himself IN when the getting was good.

He was a hot commodity for a while. But this morning he is toast. Cold toast.

I'm outta here too beccause I can't handle the childishness of this blog. It's all yours now. My job is done.

September 23, 2009 10:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Lots of Wendy staffers showing up to Krekorian's last night after the first numbers came out.

September 23, 2009 11:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

CHRIS ESSEL IS THE JACK WEISS OF THIS ELECTION.

Her ass will be kicked in the run-off, same as Jack.

September 23, 2009 11:10 AM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

Doing a cursory review of votes by precinct looks like Essel did way better in Sunland-Tujunga than I expected.

September 23, 2009 11:25 AM  

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

Anon @ 10:22

I generally make it my policy not to respond to insults, but I LOVE to respond to policy issues in which the writer..(YOU) is way off base.

Yes, Essel is terrible, but I think she is less terrible than Krekorian, who will continue to bend over and take it from the unions at any time they want. That is why LA is going bankrupt...excessive labor demands...excessive pension schemes. These Socialists in City government think that they have the RIGHT(!!) - in the biggest recession in decades -- to not only avoid losing a single job in government, but to EXPAND their pay and benefits packages and schemes.... unbelievable!

At least Essel probably fired a few people at Paramount.


1) Bush was a Republican, but not a fiscal Conservative. However, the stock market hit RECORD highs when he was in office. You will NEVER be able to say that with the fear-inducing bumblings of "The Big Zero" now in the White House.

2) Schwarzenegger is not a Republican. He is a RINO (Republican-in-name-only) He is married to a liberal...that lets you know he has no true ideology. It's all about him. I never voted for him.

3) It is the State and Federal legislatures that make policy and spend money. Californias Statehouse has been under control of liberals for 30 years. See how great the State is doing?

We had some good years under Clinton because Republicans re-took Congress in 94 and spent time passing business-friendly legislation. Stock market went soaring.

Jimmy Carter started the CRA, which FORCED banks to loan money for mortgages to people who couldn't pay. This nutty idea eventually destroyed the banking system. LIBERAL GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE is why everything is collapsing now.

You libtards need to get your facts straight.

September 23, 2009 11:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey we want to play with you guys over the hill. This race is far more fun then anything we've had in LA in a long time. I think the people over the hill should partner and help our friends in the Valley campaign to make sure Essel doesn't get in. Then we can show how strong the PEOPLE really are. Valley folks keep us in the loop when things will heat up again. Don't forget to tell us when those signatures papers to cut 1/2 salaries will be coming to.

September 23, 2009 11:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

They are both in bed with either the Mayor, the Union or both.
We should all get together and choose one write-in Candidate.
Otherwise, we have no choice!

September 23, 2009 11:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Sunland Tujunga, Lake View Terrace, Shadow Hills, La Tuna Canyon area has never lost a battle behind which we were united. We are known as the Rock. Here's to deflation of the puffing egos that divided this community. May it never happen again!
September 23, 2009 8:14 AM

Not that it would have made a difference but S-T has to get it's act together. The "Prominent activists" wannabe leaders couldn't deliver squat for Galatzan. Thankfully she is sent back to the school board to serve out her sentence.
Mary has an opportunity to get the best deal for the area. The top two realize that she is the one that can ensure their victory.

September 23, 2009 11:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:42,
Correct! Add Mary to the winners column, she should at least portray herself as the one who can deliver S-T/the rock to the 2 candidates left standing. (even though I doubt she can, the community has an independent streak, and even Mary won't sway 'em much...)

September 23, 2009 11:58 AM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

Mary did a nice job if she was running for Councilmember of Shadow Hills. But she only got one precinct in ST proper and one in Sun Valley and that's it.

And the bottom line is that Krekorian and Essel took ST. Why?

Because they both had superior GOTV ops, Krekorian's with a combination of some money and leagues of volunteers and Essel with a bought and paid for Cadillac operation.

September 23, 2009 12:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Here's a little Nina joke. Nina met Mainlander's beau Lyn at one of these candidate's debates and said, "You look like Leslie Charon."

And Lynn turned to Mainlander and whispered, "And you look like Johnny Depp..."

I was there. Lyn is hilarious.

September 23, 2009 1:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:00pm - what do YOU look like?

September 23, 2009 1:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mary wins 2 precincts in Sunland-Tujunga/Shadow Hills and people think she can deliver S-T? Think again!

September 23, 2009 1:14 PM  

Blogger bill eats at sizzler said:

Dang nabbit, I love a good thread!

September 23, 2009 2:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Which Wendy staffers were there??

September 23, 2009 3:37 PM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

Interesting. There is a Sizzler across the street from Wendy's office. Coincidence?

September 23, 2009 3:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

whats up with the editing today!?!?


run with it red spot...the posts are just starting to get good!

10:49 AM

Smartest comment of the day. you get an "C+"

I'd give you an "B-", but you forgot fundraising. NOONE wins without fundraising.

NOTE TO GRASS ROOTS CANDIDATES- Your performances are cute, but in a race this size if you can't get to 50K, don't expect to be taken seriously. If you can't count to 100K, don't expect to win.

Have fun with it, play your roll, but get out of the way when the time comes (Laurette Healy, well done, I hoped your brokered a good deal for your endorsement).

I'd offer a "B", but your answer on grassroots support was incomplete...grassroots support that doesn't walk and talk to voters (voters, NOT NEIGHBORS/GADFLYS/GOSSIPS WHO DON'T VOTE) in their neighborhood are useless.

Bonus points for asking them to hold coffee clutches with your HP data list...but only if your candidate is a good closer (see Paul v. Chris when this thing is all over)

For a "B+" you'd have to get your order correct, it is off. Cable TV/radio ads are WAY over rated, especially in a small, special election like this one and phone list/ PAID phone bank to "HP" voters is always number #1.

For an "A" you'd have to add an absentee ballot program. Clearly (as noted in Caletics) this election was decided by early fundraising and the ability to GOTV on the AB voters.

I'm not holding the "7 united" thing against you. They should not have united, they played their roles well. They represented their views and it all came out in the wash. How they finished is a good indication of how well qualified they were to serve.

For extra credit, write me an essay about lawn signs. No more than 250 words, pro or con but show me that you gave it some thought and I'll consider giving you a half a grade higher.

Phil, take notes, you get an "F" (again)

You seriously JUST figured that out about absentee ballots...

Anonymous said...
All 7 "smaller candidates" combines would not have made the run-off. A "winning candidate" needs mail, local advertisements on cable TV, calling lists, grass roots supporters and endorsements. The 7 should have united behind one a long time ago, but McCune is on the left and Essavi and Benson are on the right, so that is not possible.

September 23, 2009 4:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:00 PM I first saw Leslie Carron in the movie "Gigi" where she was like a charming ingenue. Lynn reminded me of her for a brief moment and it was meant to be a compliment. Why was it necessary to make my compliment into something other than that?

September 23, 2009 4:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:41 because that's how Joseph Mailander operates. Ask Mickey Kaus, Jill Stewart, Kevin Roderick, Ron Kaye, Brady Westwater, Marc Cooper or even Higby and they will confirm.

September 23, 2009 4:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Looks like Elaine & Nina are working overtime this morning to spin the loss of Mary Benson. Go get some sleep ladies, you're starting to sound delusional."

September 23, 2009 10:32 AM

Oh, would you look at who came out from under the Rock! And Joe claims he never posts under Anonymous!

This is the third time, Joe, that you have called me delusional, but you've lightened up and are not nearly as abusive as usual. This time you did not threaten to ruin my reputation. Again, I say to you go ahead and try.

Sorry Joe, the election caused you to become abusive and nasty in public, again - this time on Mayor Sam's.

Personally, I think it is you who is toast in Sunland Tujunga.

So sad, too bad!

September 23, 2009 6:03 PM  

Blogger Joe B. said:

Elaine, I just approved your post so I that's why I am responding so fast. I did not make that statement about you being delusional. I have no idea what other time you are saying I called you delusional. There are plenty of people besides me, that know what you & Nina have been posting over the last few weeks.
Your writing styles are pretty obvious, I'm afraid. Please stop blaming every post that criticizes you on me. geez...

September 23, 2009 6:12 PM  

Blogger Joe B. said:

And perhaps you should crawl out from under your anonymous rock and start using your real name..

September 23, 2009 6:13 PM  

Anonymous Paul Hatfield said:

The deck now gets reshuffled. All bets are off. Don't assume that everyone who voted for PK or CE will vote in the runoff.

Both candidates have to work equally hard all over again to get their core support out one more time.

Winning over the other candidates' supporters will not only be difficult, but the results of those efforts will be almost unpredictable.

If we thought there was a massive mailer effort in the primary, just wait until you see what occurs in the runoff. Money will rule and Essel will have more of it.

Both candidates are probably sitting on issues to use in the next series of attack ads. It will be DEFCON 9.

Despite CE's money advantage, it's still a 50/50 proposition because of the high level of emotions.

September 23, 2009 10:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Could someone explain to me what it means to buy votes?

Who or what counts the votes?

September 24, 2009 12:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12% of the voters in CD 2 bothered to get off their bottoms and vote. That is pathetic. It's likely even less will vote in December. So Essel could buy everyone a TV and save all the mail and get elected easily.

September 24, 2009 3:32 PM  

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