Saltsburg Responds to Moore and Rubin Debate Threats
BREAKING NEWS: We have received word that mayoral candidates Walter Moore and Craig X Rubin have allegedly joined together to ask that fellow candidate David "Zuma Dogg" Saltsburg be barred from a candidates forum held this afternoon at the Henry Fonda Theatre in Hollywood. This is in response to allegations from Rubin that Saltsburg made death threats against Rubin; allegations that Saltsburg has denied.
Via a third party, we received the following email sent by Rubin:
"I would appreciate you all helping me to make sure that Zuma, who is no longer a viable candidate (not that you all ever thought he was to begin with), stays out of the remaining debates by unanimous consent rather than me alone. I think Walter will be on this, but if not I will do it alone."
We then contacted Saltsburg for his reaction, contained in the clip below. Speaking directly from the Fonda a few moments ago, Saltsburg says he intends to participate in the forum and that he "does not answer" to Moore nor Rubin.
Via a third party, we received the following email sent by Rubin:
"I would appreciate you all helping me to make sure that Zuma, who is no longer a viable candidate (not that you all ever thought he was to begin with), stays out of the remaining debates by unanimous consent rather than me alone. I think Walter will be on this, but if not I will do it alone."
We then contacted Saltsburg for his reaction, contained in the clip below. Speaking directly from the Fonda a few moments ago, Saltsburg says he intends to participate in the forum and that he "does not answer" to Moore nor Rubin.
Labels: 2009 mayoral election, craig x rubin, David "Zuma Dogg" Saltsburg, walter moore
Posted by Michael Higby @ 2/28/2009 02:14:00 PM
43 Comments:
Good afternoon my lord Mayor (removes hat with flourish and makes elegant leg):
While we certainly do not wish Zuma lad any ill fortune, he is, if you will, now in command of his own ship. Fear not, as we have given him an oar and a roll of loo tiss-you in case he should need one or both.
Remember a while back when I posted about Sir Walter and the goings on at the Courthouse? Connect the dots and you will see who the true culprit is.
As for Reverend X who is dishing out flotsam and jetsam, and you sots who believe such drivel perhaps in the future you might want to be a little more solicitous of your local pirates and privateers, savvy?
Wow Wacko and Cracked X. That's a marriage made in Nutjar Heaven!
And people wonder why the Mayor will not debate these clowns. They must be kidding.
Darn, this means Zuma Stalker will only get 250 votes instead of 350 TOTAL.
ZUMA unhinged and off his rocker.
I’m no fan of Tony V, but Walter Moore scares me. His whole platform can be summed up as, "There are too many Mexicans in L.A., and wouldn’t it be nice if we could go back to the 1950s, back when L.A. didn’t look like Mexico?"
Back in the 1950s, Los Angeles was orchards and farmlands. Wacko should feel right at home with all those barnyard animals following him around.
Without calling Moore a racist or any other loaded term that swings the discussion over to what "racist" means, let’s take something like Jamiel’s Law, which Moore authored and tried (unsuccessfully) to get on the ballot. Based on the statute’s assumption that "many, if not most, of the members of the gangs in Los Angeles are illegal aliens," if passed, it would have mandated that the LAPD "identify, arrest, deport and/or prosecute and imprison gang members who are in the country illegally, without waiting to catch them committing murders or other crimes before enforcing the immigration laws against them." This may or may not sounds great in theory but I think this is terrible in practice - how do you identify gang members who are in the country illegally? Ah, racial, classist profiling at its best.
Then there’s this interview with the LA Times yesterday in which he stated a number of things I personally don’t agree with: first, no more funding for the Subway to the Sea (he’d use the funding to build underground parking and increase buses) and second, replacing Bratton with
Joe Arpaio, an Arizona sheriff who recently paraded a little more than 200 chained illegal immigrants through Phoenix, segregating them away from the county jail and into a little tent city, complete with electric fence. DetentionWatch was all over this, as was the local AZ news, but unfortunately, a lot of Joe’s media stunts fly under the radar.
As much as don’t like AV, I’m not willing to throw my vote behind someone whose politics I hate even more than AV’s, just to make a statement that he needs to answer to his constituents more. Because, for me, the alternative is worse: sending the wrong message of tacit endorsement to a guy I can tolerate even less than the incumbent.
Mary C. @ 2: 36 and 2:43, you've done such a fantastic job for Walter. Will he be taking you to France with him when he hightails it out of LA in one month?
I almost dropped when I read that quote by Moore about hiring Arpaio. Arpaio's Nazi tactics against the LA Weekly was covered in LA, even by the WWG so I wondered what the LA Weekly staff thought of it.
Joe Arpaio arrested the Weekly/New Times Publishers last year over an article they did, His thugs impounded their website, and got the ISPs for all New Times readers. The Weekly should not hesitate. They must come out and support Zuma Dogg after that comment by Walter.
Do you peeps now see what I've been talking about?
Zuma Dogg's behavior has marginalized ALL of the candidates. He was fine up until now. He is now going to make the whole lot of alternate candidates seem like children.
Zuma Dogg, please quietly step aside. Keep coming to city council and doing your thing. But step aside to at least let the legitimate candidates do THEIR part
Bwak bwak bwak bwack Wacko's vitriolic Chicken squawks again @ 3:52 PM.
Bad will and karma like her you just can't buy, Wacko. Good work keeping your yard chicken on the MS beat. Bwak bwak bwak bwak.
Guess Moore and Rubin both know that Zuma will be voted for more them those two; a drug king and a billbard king....both will make money...Zuma just wants things right.
Zoom
Zoom
Zuma!
Suck up to no one!
Vote for change we already believe in. Zuma Dogg for Mayor Los Angeles 2009.
Speak for yourself! I would love to see the LA that Sir Walter references.
But you are full of the freedom to ruin the run off no matter who is in it. I WILL SUPPORT WHICHEVER CANDIDATE GETS INTO THE RUNOFF WITH ANTONIO VILLARAIGOSA. I WILL NOT BE SO PETTY AS TO SUBJECT OURSELVES TO ANOTHER 1 YEAR OF THAT SCUMBAG'S CRAP. HE WILL LEAVE TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR. SO WE MUST SUPPORT WHICHEVER CANDIDATE (OR CANIDATE, AS ZOOMA SAYS)GETS THE RUNOFF.
So what does Walter want to do with barnyard animals?
5:09
Chill out Mary C. Your spinning like a Kansas twister.
Anonymous said...
So what does Walter want to do with barnyard animals?
February 28, 2009 5:14 PM
Dunno. I suppose he could ask his yard chicken to call her ALF pals and rescue them.
Well if Walter and Rubin don't want to come, that's up to them. They can join Antonio and you already know he's got no respect for voters to tell them his positive attributes- we have seen the negative ones all to often.
Rubin's problem might just be his credibility and not showing up will clear off the ballot very neatly.
Walter has always been the most abrasive of all the more prominent challengers and still doesn't see that- putting off most of the undecided ones and irritating his regulars.
If Walter doesn't show up, it's bad for him; if he does, then why bother with the ultimatum?... it's bad for him again. I would choose him in a run-off, after all, you can see Antonio's game plan and it's not doing any more for L.A. this term, either- especially with the new budget shorfall b/c of pensions, etc. Expect more taxes; he already wants to sell off rights to city property and lease for decades- back to "immediate gains for me and L.A. pays the bill in perpetuity as I leave for greener pastures."
I just can't buy THAT; and if TONY loses the Gov. nomination, he will be pissed and embarrassed more than he already is from Obama blowing him off like JACK WEISS does his contituents.
I support ZD on this one very clearly and if he did not show up, I would have to wonder about how committed he is to see this through.
Right now, we are fine. I did not know Rubin was considered a "whack" job, etc., since I just didn't pay much attention to him, but he's burned his bridges behind him, not that they were that important, but still HE'S the one who appears to have gone off.
in cd-14
This is an appropriate thread to ask this, since it is about the election antics of Moore and Rubin.
Michael Higby, you are friends with Moore. Why does he want us to hate each other so much? What can he possibly hope to gain? I'm againt illegal immigration, but my ancestors were Greek immigrants. It seems to me that Moore is against us all.
You're family is true American, Michael? Does it feel hurtful to you like it does to us?
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17861197&postID=6041342880929825633
To answer your question I do not agree with Moore on wanting to eliminate Spanish radio, Mexican culture, etc. to be honest I was shocked by that video.
I believe we can have reasonable controls on immigration without resorting to bigotry.
I am now not sure Walter Moore feels the same.
A Greek Feast: Feta Stuffed Chicken On Greek Salad
4 Chicken Breasts with skin
1 Pckg Garlic Feta Cheese
1 Head Baby Greens
2 Ripe Tomatoes
Cesar Salad Dressing
Olive Oil
Dried oregano.
Dried rosemary.
Lemon pepper
Toothpicks
Preheat oven to 450 degrees
Wash Chicken
Slice Feta Cheese
Stuff chicken breasts with feta. Secure with toothpicks.
Drizzle with olive oil. Sprinkle with oregano, dried rosemary, and crushed lemon pepper.
Bake at 450 degrees for 20 minutes. Turn down oven and bake for another 30 minutes at 375.
While chicken is baking, assemble salad. Wash baby greans and divide among four plates. Dice tomatoes and assemble ontop of the greens. Drizzle with cesar salad dressing. I like Paul Newman's, but any supermarket brand will do.
Take chicken out of the oven when the cooking time is 50 to 60 minutes. Let rest 5 minutes. Place on breast atop each salad plate. Drizzle some of the pan juices ontop of each breast. Serve hot or warm.
Delicious and Atkins diet friendly.
That recipe from my Greek ancestors is my gift you you. I have others. From my Mexican daughter in law and her Scilian mother in law. I will be posting them from time to time to dispute Walter Moore's hateful comments about creating an "American city" but most of all for your enjoyment, Mayor Sam and bloggers. Why can't we all get along?
Can't we all get along?
Did Walter rescue the chicken in his ads from someone's back yard, in the nick of time? WHERE is that chicken now, Walter? Still alive or have you eaten it using the recipe above?
Did MC adopt it, in her chicken costume? Is it in your condo now? Are the two chickens good pals?
Poor Walter has been lumped in with all these misfits by the media, who are laughing at all the "unusual" mayoral candidates. It's all working to AnVil's advantage. Walter did get his own spread in the Times, but came off looking ridiculous to mainstream voters. He's still got his right wing talk radio base at least, but the other nuts have lost it all.
Since you asked, or maybe you didn't but...Ah Mexican burrito breakfast.
Wrap some Mexican burritos in foil and heat in a warm oven.
Heat up a small can of black beans.
Make scrambled eggs, adding cheddar cheese at the end.
Make breakfast burritos. Place the burrito on some aluminum foil. Put in the cheese eggs, salsa, black beans, chopped onion, cilantro. Foil wrap the sandwich and cut in fours. Serve with guacamole on the side.
GOD BLESS AMERICA WHEREVER WE CAME FROM ;)
About the barnyard animals.
It's against city code to have farm animals in city limits.
I live in Highland Park. I've heard roosters crowing.
I've seen chickens walking down the sidewalk.
I've seen chickens in a front yard, on the front porch and walking into a front door.
Where do you people live that think this is a nonexistent issue.
Shout out to Debbie Lopez. Give us your Mother's recipe for carnitas? Post it here.
Sam do you have your beautiful Grandma Ticky's pancake recipe? Put it up.
@ 7:22 PM Shut the F up Mary C. You aren't black, you're not Latino, you don't live in Highland Park, and you're not the Rock of South Central. You are forbidden by law to rehab animals and yet you take charitable donations for an address you DO NOT LIVE AT.
How stupid and racist do you thik we are? As stupid and racist as you and Wacko. Why don't we send your racist posts to your lawsuit judge? So she can know EXACTLY want a nutjar you are.
7:22 PM,
Mary, put on your chicken suit with the hatchet and blood on the neckline, grab your friends from ADLLA, and go picketing their backyards. That's all your good for, you sick c***. So make yourself useful. Instead of writing all the ADLLA emails, and posing as Haikookela, make yourself useful and go GET THOSE BARN YARD ANIMALS FOR WACKO.
I heart Valley Doll and I'd love to have her family recipes.
The Recipes Against Hate PostUp on Mayor Sams. From now till the election, please let's post up our family recipes. Eat, drink, and be merry, folks. We can all get along.
Debbie Lopez, yours are the most valued. Post up, please. Thanx.
Mayor Sam I beg you. Make tomorrow International Recipe Day and invite your many bloggers to post their family recipes from far off lands. Let's put up our family recipes and celebrate this great diverse city of delicious food.
I'd cook that backyard pollo breast down in a slow oven with lemon slices and garlic. Serve it with refried beans and rice. Sorbet for dessert. You can barbecue it but trust me, slow roast pollo with lemon and garlic beats it all.
It's not mine but I cook if for my famiy all the time with a Mexican Twist. I add chopped chipolte peppers to it and chipotle peppers to the sauce. I serve it with fried banannas and rice, instead of potatoes. Delish.
Old-fashioned Meat Loaf
Ingredients
1 pound ground beef
1 1/4 teaspoons salt
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
1/2 cup chopped onion
1/2 cup chopped bell pepper
1 egg, lightly beaten
8 ounces canned diced tomatoes with juice
1/2 cup quick-cooking oats
2 chipotle peppers, seeded and chopped.
1 teaspoon chili powder
Topping:
1/3 cup ketchup
2 tablespoons brown sugar
1 tablespoon prepared mustard
Sauce from chipotle peppers, plus two extra chopped chipotle seeded chipotle peppers.
Directions
Preheat oven to 375 degrees F.
Mix all meatloaf ingredients well and place in a baking dish. Shape into a loaf.
Topping:
Mix ingredients for topping and spread on loaf. Bake for 1 hour. Serve with fried banannas, rice and beans.
The great recipe postings. I love it. C'mon Mayor Sam. Get with the great diversity election cookoff. Ask your posters to put up their recipes and tell Walter Moore's haters to shove it.
Joseph Mailander,
Your cocktail recipes are so yummy. As is the history of the drink and the great photos you include. Please put up the recipe for the Ramons Gin Fizz, again here. Let's make it the official drink of the 2009 mayoral election.
Trader Joe's Mexican Food is the best. I pop their enchiladas in the oven and in twenty minutes we have a meal. I cook international fast foods and I celebrate the diversity of our great city. I cook and I stand against hate.
I stand against hate and I cook. I have my Italian grandma's tripe recipe. Bet it's better than your's, DQ. Put your's up tommorow when I post mine. I'm anxious to see which works better. All these years of menudo posts, which Latino culture has the best tripe"
I want that Wally Cake recipe Higby. Don't flake out.
MOM SAYS:
7:23 pm - Sorry LOVE, Debbie's mom never cooked "carnitas". Her father & I would drive to Tijuana to eat them good carnitas and drive back home to SFV......
Could kick my own butt for not learning how to cook 'em :(
Sorry Debbie.....
Jesus Rosas for City Council in
CD1.
I was the one who played mediator in this whole event.
Here is Craigs email...
Dear Gentleman,
Obviously everyone is aware of what happened between Mr. Dogg and myself.
Phil Jennerjahn seemed to side with Zuma stating that I "over reacted," but
Phil doesn't have a house full of kids or any experience dealing with the
mentally ill and homeless; I do.
I received this letter via email from Suzy Evans a candidate for City
Controller. She is scared of Zuma and felt threatened by his call even
though he didn't threaten her directly he left a very disturbing message
on her machine. We spoke for some time and she'll be giving her tape to the
District Attorney on Monday.
I would appreciate you all helping me to make sure that Zuma, who is no
longer a viable candidate (not that you all ever thought he was to begin
with), stays out of the remaining debates by unanimous consent
rather than me alone. I think Walter will be on this, but if not I will
do it alone.
Thank you,
Craig X Rubin
Here was my response to all the candidates...
To all my fellow candidates,
Look. Here is my take on this situation.
I don't know what was said between David and Craig.
I didn't hear the conversation, but they are both telling different stories which usually means the truth is somewhere in the middle, being confused by interpretations, intentions, and emotions.
We had all been civil to each other in multiple other forums before this event, and I see no need for that not to continue.
I think it shows a real lack of leadership not to be able to handle small personality disputes without getting the police involved. I think that shows really poor decision making.
I think the situation could have been handled much better.
I'm not going to take a stand that David can't be there.
All human beings get angry and say things they don't mean.
I don't disagree that David lost his temper and behaved poorly.
(He over reacted to interpreting that Walter and Craig were mocking him at UCLA while he spoke.)
But, if you are going to be involved in politics, you are dealing with lots of people who have widely varied feelings about things.
Dealing with angry people, insults... and sometimes even vague threats are part of the ballgame.
It's a big boys league and you have to be tough.
Carlos Alvarez on the PSL website called me an "Arch-reactionary", a "racist", and a "fascist".
Instead of crying about it...I LAUGHED. I actually took it as a compliment. I even shook Carlos's hand last night and told him I would defend him and his right to be there.
I don't care for Stevan Torres being there, but that is because he didn't do the necessary work to get on the ballot and we did.
But..even his presence is a relatively minor annoyance. Listening to his answers is just a waste of time, because he's not even an official write-in candidate. But if organizers give him a chair, I will just live with it.
Also...just on a matter of personal integrity here...
I don't believe in saying things about a person behind their back that you wouldn't say to their face if necessary.
If you don't want David to attend...you should email him and tell him that.
Phil
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