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Wednesday, January 28, 2009

Let them debate!

Steve Lopez says that Mayor Villaraigosa should debate Walter Moore.  I agree.

He should also debate Zuma Dogg, David Hernandez, Phil Jennerjhan, Bruce Darian and the rest all here on Gilligan's Island.

Oh sure we know what some of you are going to say.  Especially Moore supporters.  But the crux of Moore's argument four years ago was that he should have been included in debates with candidates Jim Hahn, Villaraigosa, Richard Alarcon, Bob Hertzberg, Bernie Parks, et al.  And he was right.

So you can't be consistent with an argument that some animals are more equal than others and cut out candidates especially Zuma Dogg who has received nearly as much media coverage as Moore as well as Hernandez who has a following.  And for sure, as tough as it is for you some of you, the remaining candidates should be included.

Democracy is not pretty.

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68 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Higby why do you fail to discern the difference between zumma dogg, who is out only for self-aggrandizing attention, and legitimate, experienced and educated people who are equipped to do the job?

You can't possibly believe that a HOMELESS MAN FOR GOD'S SAKE is incapable of running the second largest city in the United Status with a multi-billion dollar budget!

He can't figure out where tomorrow's breakfast is coming from, and you think it's not a distraction to put him in a debate?

January 28, 2009 4:03 PM  

Blogger Petra Fried in the City said:

WhooHoo!

De-BATE, y'all !!!!!

January 28, 2009 4:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why is Walter afraid to debate Zuma Dogg?

For the same reason Villaragosa is.

January 28, 2009 4:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:03 -


.....snore....


ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

January 28, 2009 4:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma can debate himself about the strengths and weaknesses of being a bald egomaniac. No need for the mayor to stoop to his level.

January 28, 2009 4:25 PM  

Anonymous Phil Jennerjahn said:

Michael,

There won't be a debate with Villaraigosa. UCLA Political Science department is trying to put together a debate in late February...target date is the 25th I think. Most of us will show up...but not Antonio.

Walter Moore needs to shut up and quit being a crybaby. Antonio is a political animal and a fighter...he has had to debate other politicians in the past and take their best shots. He's not afraid of a whining, self-aggrandizing windbag like Walter Moore. Besides, Walter is anti-development, and he's not even on the right side in that issue.

There is simply no upside for Antonio to debate the rest of us. He already has a huge advantage in name recognition, and has us all killed when it comes to an advertising budget.

It is only a losing proposition for him should he make a mental error or verbal slip up.

No point in him doing that. So...no debate.

Tell Walter to quit crying about it.
Antonio is not afraid of any of us.
He has the Labor Unions in his back pocket.

I am doing what I can do.
I was on KABC this morning during drive time.
Doug McIntyre mentioned my website.

January 28, 2009 4:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil,

Shut Up.

Thank you.

January 28, 2009 5:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZUMA DOGG;

STOP POSTING ANONYMOUSLY!!!!

January 28, 2009 5:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's debate Measure B.

I just received a call from a "YES on MEASURE B" phone bank. The caller admitted to me that there is a lot of controversy about Measure B and the way it got on the ballot. He also told me he was a City employee who was "volunteering" to phone bank in favor of Measure B.

The ENTIRE pitch was that voters should approve Measure B because we need solar energy because of all the air pollution from the power plants of the DWP can be cut with solar.

That's it. That was the entire script in favor.

I asked about how it got put on the ballot in just three weeks without consulting the DWP Board of Commissioners. I asked about the exclusivity of the work for DWP union electrical workers. I asked why it was necessary for there to be a Charter Amendment when DWP has the power to adopt such a program without amending the charter.

The phone banker was clueless. We have a bunch of City employees who "volunteered" at the "suggestion" of their union boss to phone bank for this swindle of the City.

January 28, 2009 5:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

phil,
you're an idiot and have a weird obsession about walter moore "whining." he hasn't posted here in ages. he's not whining - but you sure are. it's sour graped. isn't it? he's raised money, you haven't. he was interviewed by steve lopez, you weren't. look in the mirror and you'll see the whiner. why this weird obsession? every time walter moore's name comes up you obsess. give it a rest- it's creepy.
by the way - what do you do for a living anyway?

January 28, 2009 6:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter Moore's only complaint is how Mayor Villaraigosa's policies and his failures are ruining the City of Angels and mentions on his website http://www.waltermooreformayor.com how to fix these problems.
Plus, it amazes me that the other challengers are using ad hominem attacks on Moore when I've never heard him make any attacks on these candidates. Quit attacking Moore and tell us what your solution is.

January 28, 2009 6:12 PM  

Anonymous Reality Checker said:

There is no reason for the Mayor to participate in a debate. If he does nothing, he wins in a landslide. All of his opponents are either gadflys or very minor. If he agrees to a debate, the Mayor only gives these losers a free forum to make themselves better known.

So the Mayor does what all politicians do in this situation, he runs on his record and name ID and lets the others have debates if they wish.

The reason that minor candidates like Walter were not included in the mayoral debates last time is because if all the candidates were included everyone would have 5 minutes to speak and there wouldn't be anything that looked like a real debate.

Any serious candidate would have the ability to raise money and/or a grassoots organization so there is a way to get out the message without relying on debates.

Aside from that, very few people watch debates, especially during a primary. Usually just those who are in the room. The coverage comes from what the media picks up. So if the minor candidates have something to say, a positive idea or criticism, they can stage a news event and get coverage.

January 28, 2009 6:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Not only is there no upside for Mayor V. to debating these folks -- especially the Dogg -- there's no upside for the city. Why drag out the coronation and waste taxpayers money to "try" and make the non-viable viable.

Someone call the code. "Time of death" for the also-rans' candidacies -- the same day they filed.

January 28, 2009 7:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil, you are a hell of a hypocrite.

You were grandstanding at city council this week about Villaraigosa GRANDSTANDING!

List out your list of accomplishments so we know what successes you bring to the table.

All I know is that if you're an attorney with enough free time to go midday to city council, you're not doing well enough in your practice.

Couple this with your classless name calling and baiting and you can be sure of one thing. No one is going to listen to you.

January 28, 2009 7:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

HEY GENDER-GONE:

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR LA?

January 28, 2009 7:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Would someone please answer these questions for me?

Why is the mayor fundraising? Since we know he's going to win, even by doing nothing, what does he need the money for?

Can he save it for the next campaign, or are funds raised for one campaign limited to that campaign only?

What if he doesn't spend the money? Do the donors get it back?

January 28, 2009 8:10 PM  

Anonymous Matt Dowd said:

the fix is in. antonio is the next mayor. the people don't even care any more. more people went to city council today over a single elephant than any issue I've seen there since they dragged 500 hotel workers in there for a living wage.
these people don't bother to come about street cleaning, road repairs, police, graffiti, gangs, murder suicides of families, traffic congestion, pollution, taxes, bonds, or any other major problem.

there's the proof. nobody cares about the real things any more. its a fact.

as long as the precious elephant is ok, nothing else matters. that's the constituency. people running for Mayor, take note.

January 28, 2009 8:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter doesn't have to make comments about other candidates in public. He has no balls. It's true!

He can be like the other anonymous low-lifes on this blog.

Sort of like how Fatboy used to be.

January 28, 2009 9:12 PM  

Anonymous A Voter said:

I support Zuma Dogg for Mayor. I don't care if he's homeless. In fact, his troubles make him more relevant to me than a candidate who has nothing to do but sit on his ass in his "Law Firm" haha and make personal attacks on another man's lifestyle.

Isn't this what the country is about now? People going through hard times and looking for politicans who understand their issues? Isn't that what we resent about Villaraigosa, how out of touch he is with the people? I do not understand how Walter Moore or his crazed supporter can make these personal attacks against Zuma Dogg, like rabid dogs, and then pretend that Walter's candidacy is relevant to struggling families.

Look around, voters! Walter Moore is an elitist snob. The relentless blogger who supports him with personal attacks against Zuma Dogg is on a misguided mission that has nothing to do with the issues in this election. Are these cranks the ones you trust to represent your issues? Think about it. Think. Hard.

January 28, 2009 9:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZD has experience in local politics. He goes to Council and fights every day. He gets the press. He deserves every bit of it. Walter Moore has experience in blogging anonymously, if MS is any indicator of his worth. Walter didn't even go to Council to help out the Shaw family. He left them out there alone and obviously didn't provide the advice they needed to protect their petitions.

January 28, 2009 9:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I will have you know that Zuma beat out Villaragosa on news of the small plane going down in Santa Monica and had a small interview on the KFI news

January 28, 2009 9:55 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

9:55pm,
I'll be on the KNBC 11 oclock news tonight. they will be airing the footage i shot along with an BRIEF soundbite.

January 28, 2009 10:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:30 you have a valid point.

Didn't the Lopez article say that Walter Moore spent all his money on hats and bumper stickers? And that's matching tax payer money too. What does that tell us about his prudence?

January 28, 2009 10:02 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

ZUMA DOGG;
STOP POSTING ANONYMOUSLY!!!!
January 28, 2009 5:43 PM

ZD says, go screw yourself, loser...haven't posted anonymously.

Hey Higby, who do you think would POSSIBLY make a 100% false allegation like that???

January 28, 2009 10:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma Dogg is homeless.
Homeless.
HOMELESS.
HOME-LESS.
HOMELESSLY HOMELESS.
H.O.M.E.L.E.S.S.

Did I say it enough for you, hater?

Zuma Dogg wears a hat.
Oh. My. God. He wears A hat.
A hat.
An H.A.T.
HAT!
HAT ON HIS HEAD HAT.
Zuma is the Cat In The Hat.
Go Zuma!
You go Dogg!

January 28, 2009 10:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

can you guess who that was?

January 28, 2009 10:24 PM  

Anonymous A Voter said:

No, but I can guess who you are.

January 28, 2009 10:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You really should cut it out Walter. Your dignity has gone down the drain.

January 28, 2009 10:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:30
I doesn't take any thinking.

You have to know how to manage finances and get along with people to do anything in life.

It's that simple.

January 28, 2009 10:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You have to know how to manage finances and get along with people to do anything in life.

That let's Walter out.

January 28, 2009 10:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You have to know how to manage finances and get along with people to do anything in life.

That doesn't bode well for Alger either.

January 28, 2009 11:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Most of the posts continue to get off the point of the thread with the same old personal attacks and that still leaves ANTONIO there all by himself with his pile of campaign loot to duck a debate.

And why do you think he would "have nothing to gain" by a debate? The Antonio-supporters skirt that issue constantly with every thread on MS and that is HE'S GOT NOTHING to promote.

It's all his imagined achievements and if you didn't hear Phil on McIntyre- you might not know he said he wasn't a lawyer. More non-issues to distract from what should be a one-term mayor.

I don't get the apologist style Phil takes concerning Antonio, first on the Bar Exam 4x no-pass for Tony, and then here, like saying "WHY HE SHOULDN'T SHOW"- the very simple reason is that its all about deception.

Keeping disclosures from happening in a debate confrontation WOULD happen and Antonio's position would suffer, not from a "slip up" but from actual facts. We aren't talking about interpretation of issues and approaches as might happen in a well-run city.

We are talking about the myriad list of negatives in actions, character, judgment, and it's all about Antonio Villaraigosa. I am tired of his pandering to Latino votes ever since he preached, "We Clean Your Toilets" and it goes downhill for him fast from that point on.

Absences for campaigns of Hillary, then Obama- and for his own fund raising from OUT OF STATE sources was not with City business as the priority, no matter how his spins it.

The Mayor is not slick by refusing to debate, he's simply as smug and contemptuous of voters and the ones that speak here who "throw in the towel" for challengers now, but that's them and they can have his continued "asleep at the wheel" leadership and $5 billion housing "solutions" to ponder.

Not me and not others. In any event, many have decided one thing, that Tony deserves NO SECOND TERM, Really, anyone who can show even the slightest concern for the city's well-being would already be head and shoulders above Villaraigosa in terms of merit on that issue alone.

Why would anyone even CONSIDER giving him a pass and allow a second term (aside from his staffers but they would support Satan himself it he held office and their career longevity with that hefty paycheck in his palm as does Tony.) I am talking about merit "openess and transparency" that Tony probably forgot he promised. He forgot many promises that others can recall vividly.

In CD-14 with Tony's hand-picked replacement, Jose, a separate disappointment.

January 28, 2009 11:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

HAHAHAHA!! You all are fighting for 500 votes!!

Like the keystone cops in color. I would say Marx Brothers, but they are clever.

Mayor Sams Bloggers are the Washington Generals of LA Politics.

January 28, 2009 11:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Here's my take on the Zuma Hater. "Hater of Zuma" heretofore called HOZ.

1. It's a female. ("You can't come to MY birthday party")

2. It's someone whose Mom or Dad really fucked them up with continual criticism and the idea that some people "deserve it." It loves Nancy Grace.

3. It's someone who bites their nails, alot, and is either very really short or very really tall.

4. It is someone who habitually picks their nose, even in the absence of boogers, and never leaves the house.

5. It's someone who has a crush on Zuma Dogg, and/or was once rejected by him.

...Just my take on this pathethic soul.

January 28, 2009 11:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

HOZ woulda hung Jesus.

January 28, 2009 11:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You clowns spinning away like busy beavers panting at the thought that your collection of losers, headed up by Moore (sorry zuma, he's raised some money and you haven't, and can get people out to a rally, has a real campaign office and so on) miss the key point of Lopez' article.

That barring being given a chance to stand up on the platform with Villar Moore's best bet of getting noticed would be to stick a sign on top of a car (bigger than a Dominos delivery car, maybe like a huge moving LED billboard) and pay someone to "steal" it. Then report it missing, hold a press conference and hope someone shows up.

Villar would be giving these fools the PR they can't get or buy.

He did debate Hahn numerous times in the earlier election, Hertzberg too, and he did fine. He'll rise to the occasion if he runs for Gov or something with real challengers. Like all candidates he can get groomed on talking points. I'm sure he's not "afraid" to debate Moore, and Lopez knows there's a greater chance of Moore getting on tv with a stolen car/billboard than that. Only an insane campaign manager would advise Villar to throw that kind of PR at those hopeless losers who've never held an NC Board or commission job, and have incredible nerve running for Mayor.

January 29, 2009 12:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm posting at 117am. I'm sure you can figure out that I'm not walter.

January 29, 2009 1:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

zuma dogg at 10:01 you lie again: you weren't on NBC news tonight which I happened to watch NOT waiting for you. What were they going to show you as, an ass?

That's how Nightline showed you only you probably found that flattering.

As for whether the celebrities got an extra few seconds to advocate against the zoo: several people did but Tomlin was sharply cut off when she wanted to rebut someone.

For you fools to actually claim that the time of a homeless fool, the wacky ladies and gents in Van Nuys and the other City Hall regulars -- none of whom clearly have anything more useful to do -- is worth more than a minute of time from Cher is so egotistical it proves you're all crazy. They showed up ONCE and you morons every day, wasting tons of time. Not that I agree with the celebrities, because I agree with the zookeeper who said Cher should stick to singing and let the pros at the zoo do what they know best.

Bugs me that these spoiled celebrities have no concept of OUR taxpayer money involved, just want a bleeding-heart PR cause for themselves. Anything involving kids, animals and the environment, and they're right on it, facts be damned.

January 29, 2009 1:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

zuma dogg at 10:01 you lie again: you weren't on NBC news tonight which I happened to watch NOT waiting for you. What were they going to show you as, an ass?

That's how Nightline showed you only you probably found that flattering.

As for whether the celebrities got an extra few seconds to advocate against the zoo: several people did but Tomlin was sharply cut off when she wanted to rebut someone.

For you fools to actually claim that the time of a homeless fool, the wacky ladies and gents in Van Nuys and the other City Hall regulars -- none of whom clearly have anything more useful to do -- is worth more than a minute of time from Cher is so egotistical it proves you're all crazy. They showed up ONCE and you morons every day, wasting tons of time. Not that I agree with the celebrities, because I agree with the zookeeper who said Cher should stick to singing and let the pros at the zoo do what they know best.

Bugs me that these spoiled celebrities have no concept of OUR taxpayer money involved, just want a bleeding-heart PR cause for themselves. Anything involving kids, animals and the environment, and they're right on it, facts be damned.

January 29, 2009 1:37 AM  

Anonymous Phil Jennerjahn said:

To anonymous at 11:41

You say we are all fighting for 500 votes.I strongly disagree. David Hernandez and I have the co-endorsement of the Los Angeles County GOP, which means we are backed by a real political party, which the other contenders cannot say. The GOP has plans to promote us on their website and through emails before the election.

True, Republicans are only 30% of the population here in LA, but if David and I can take most Conservative votes away from Antonio, and the others do their job, we can force a runoff election which Antonio would stand a good chance of losing.

I have been critical of Walter Moore because I don't like his style of campaigning. He tends to be lecturing people about how great he is and how he has all the answers. That style didn't work in the 2005 mayoral election and I don't think it will work in 2009, either.

However, no matter what I say about him, he would still be a million times better than having Antonio for four more years. Hell...even Zuma Dogg would be better than Antonio.
At least Zuma wouldn't be handing out shady under-the-table deals like Antonio.

January 29, 2009 8:06 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Um...actually, 1:37 am Zumma was on the KNBC news at 11. You are wrong. Here's a link to the report.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Plane-Crashes-at-Santa-Monica-Airport-LA.html

Facts. They mean something to honest, honorable people.

January 29, 2009 9:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'd bet you a collectible nickel that Zuma gets more air time on Ch. 35 just from his misguided antics than the mayor actually does.

ZD is a clown. He's seldom knows anything more about the "issues" he pounces on like a blind cat than are printed in the CC agenda.

There's no reason to debate a clown, unless you're after his job in the fleabag circus he runs in his head.

People all over the country already think L.A. is nothing but a bunch of flakes and nuts. Why add proof to their theories by exposing ZD to the public any more that he is already.

January 29, 2009 10:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:10

Money cannot be rolled from one campaign to another. AV continues to raise money but the campaign gives him an excuse to do so, and he uses the money to improve his image and his chances of becoming governor.

If he doesn't spend it all, he can return it to the donors or give it to charity.

January 29, 2009 10:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZUMA

You NEED to learn the difference between being ATTRACTIVE as a candidate for one of more good reasons, and just being an ATTRACTION.

A Mazerati is ATTRACTIVE to some for its aesthetics and performance. A Prius is ATTRACTIVE to others for economic and ecological reasons.

That nasty two-car fatal accident on the freeway yesterday was an ATTRACTION because of how horrible and nasty it was, and because people felt sorry for those who died.

Understand? You're the ATTRACTION.

(Oh, hell, what's the point. The DOGG can't tell the difference, but maybe some of the misguided few that say they'll waste their vote on him are listening.)

January 29, 2009 10:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Loon @ 1:37 AM. Public Comments are for the PUBLIC, Loon! Every citizen who puts in their time there is more important than the lazy clowncil. Who incidently are PUBLIC SERVANTS who are paid to listen to the citizens meaning Cher, Lily Tomlin, Zuma, the celebrities, voters, anyone who shows up.

Sleep it off.

January 29, 2009 10:39 AM  

Blogger Heather said:

OMG!!!! I AGREE with Matt Dowd. I'm even shocked but he's right. Unbelievable with all the issues people came out for an elephant, $42 million of tax payer money wasted and the LA Zoo and their big donation corporate people win all because of money. LA Slimes has the audacity to put Billy and the people in green t-shirts ON THE FRONT PAGE. Is it any wonder they are going bankrupt. They have an Opinion THE MEASURE B MESS BACK IN EDITORIAL.

January 29, 2009 11:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So 1:37 am, when I point out to you that you are just plain wrong, you can only come back with another attack on Zumma Dog at 10:14? What gives? Come on, you can do better than that!

January 29, 2009 12:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dear Phil Gender-gone:

All you seem to be able to say for yourself is that you hate Walter.

Please state what your record of accomplishments for the people of LA is.

Try to not mention Walter's name in your response. We want to know what you have accomplished for the people.

January 29, 2009 1:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:00 p.m. must be Walter.

I heard about your latest tirade over Zuma Dogg's media coverage.

Sad.

January 29, 2009 1:51 PM  

Anonymous Dear Abby said:

Dear Walter Supporter (female? in love with ZD? who picks her nose? lol!) Phil has never said he hates Walter. He's critical of Walter's attitude and comments. Amd he's right on the money. Maybe you're jealous because Phil has the GOP, and Walter couldn't get them. It's time you recovered from your unrequited adoration of ZD and stopped twisting Phil's words.

January 29, 2009 2:59 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Sorry you didn't see the KNBC story. Maybe you should have opened your eyes. It was on, loser.

January 29, 2009 3:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How much money did Walter spend on hats and bumper stickets?

Zuma Dogg has got just as much media as Walter and he's spent no money.

That's the guy we need for Mayor! Not a snively money waster.

Waster Moore Money.

January 29, 2009 3:39 PM  

Anonymous reality checker said:

All of the candidates running against the Mayor achieve absolutely nothing by wasting their time slamming each other. If the Mayor wins in the primary, it matters not who finished second. Your only hope is to combine forces and focus everything you have against the Mayor.

And you would think that the Mayor would be a more attractive target for each of you.

Have any of the candidates describe a strategy through which they can get elected? It's a bit a rhetorical question because none have. That leads me to believe that each is in the race just to get some attention.

January 29, 2009 3:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil,

Is it Moore is Better?

Or, Moore is Bitter?

January 29, 2009 4:26 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

"Have any of the candidates describe a strategy through which they can get elected?"

Yeah, here's my strategy. For the three years, I have woken up every day and done as much as I can to use the available (free) media to alert the masses as to the fraud, waste and abuse at City Hall. I have attended a majority of the council meetings and have scan the agenda for shadiness, then comment on it. Each meeting is broadcast on TV four times, each, for a total of twelve airings, in which I speak throughout the meeting. Plus, I have produced public access shows on TV for eight years, called into radio, blogged and met thousands of people, in person.

Add it all up, and come March 3, 2008 we'll see how effective it has all been.

So although I wish I had $200,000, also, I think other candidates will have to try and buy, what I hopefully have already achieved for free, by being myself, and just trying to be as much like Eddie Kendricks and "Keep on Truckin'."

I know that a lot of people know me in the city, and really appreciate what I have done, so we'll see how it translates at the poles.

I'm not "trashing" any of the other candidates when I say I think I have the highest level of name recognition of all the challengers, by far. Again, we'll see how it translates.

So my strategy has been to keep plugging along every day, as much as possible, doing stuff in the media, to the point where I am recognized throughout the day.

I wish I could do more in the way of mailers. But it is what it is...I feel good about the media coverage I have gotten, so far. And if Walter is a big of a big shot as Kevin James thinks he is, then ZD will only be helping Walter make it to a run, off.

One person had a fun speculation, "Zuma, what if it's you and Walter in the run-off." (Meaning Antonio comes in third.) It's nice to dream!

But to the person who is concerned the other candidates do not have a strategy, just start asking around about "Zuma Dogg" and you will see it's the strategy money can't buy.

January 29, 2009 8:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:39
So its about how much media one has?

On that basis , why not just go with Antonio?

What are you talking about anyway?

January 29, 2009 8:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:39's point is that Walter Moore wastes money on cornball campaign gimmicks.He's out of touch. But Zuma Dogg is a natural. Walter Moore spent that money on hats? One more time, Walter Moore is OUT OF TOUCH. Who is going to wear a Walter Moore straw hat, even if they support him? That's a leftover stupid stunt from an FDR campaign.

Give me a Zuma cap any day of the week. Walter Moore is just an uncool loser from back in the day. Old Skool and out of touch with the people. Might as well face it. The other candidates ring truer than he does. Too bad. So sad. Go home. Wipe your tears on a Walter Moore hat.

January 29, 2009 8:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

850 do you think Walter Moore will soon release "I'm Just Wild About Wally!"

January 29, 2009 9:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Any day now 9:03. Keep an eye out.

January 29, 2009 9:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Times reports that Walter picked up his $43thousand in matching funds today, which he was excited about -- except when he went to deposit it, his bank put a hold on the money then finally released 10 thousand.

Not much money or history in the old bank account, Walter? Too many straw hats and cups and pens? You think this is some legal secretary's convention? What made you think you should run straight for mayor anyway, never having held even the lowest elective or appointive office?

You don't sign up for a marathon when you can't run around your own block. (This egotism we can expect from CrazyDogg, Jennerjerk and the rest, but since you seem otherwise sane if shallow, you should have known better, Walter.)

January 29, 2009 9:15 PM  

Anonymous A Voter said:

I am voting for the Zuma Man. This is Mister Smith Goes To Washington. We have a chance to make a real statement and we can do it together with someone who is fresh and holds the clowncil accountable every day of his life. Pay attention to Zuma Man and his campaign. The LA Weekly was right.

January 29, 2009 9:21 PM  

Anonymous fashion victim said:

where can i buy a zuma dogg's cap?

January 29, 2009 9:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tell Zuma Dogg to shut up!

January 29, 2009 9:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So sorry Crank Face 9:58. It's not happening in your lifetime dude. Too many people like ZD get his message and think you are a mean bitter old fart.

January 29, 2009 10:05 PM  

Anonymous Phil Jennerjahn said:

His name as listed on the ballot is DAVID "Zuma Dogg" SALTSBURG.

His name recognition for the DAVID SALTSBURG part of his name is ZERO!
And that is because he has been hiding behind the "Zuma Dogg" stage name for years.

I have lived here for over 15 years and VOTE in every election. I had never heard of him before we both ended up in this Mayors race. A quick Google search showed some videos of his screaming and dancing around at City Council.

Absentee voters who read their ballots and search for him this way to find more info will also get this impression of him.

David is a nice guy and passionate about the city, but I am willing to make a bet that he doesn't even get 10% of the vote.

I'm not saying I'm perfect either, but I have at least 50 people who worked on the McCain campaign with me and they will be making calls and emailing for me...etc...etc.

January 29, 2009 10:13 PM  

Blogger ArmandV said:

El Pollo Antonio!

January 30, 2009 8:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil - you are idiot.

Even those of us who detest the Mutt know who he is and what he's done. He has actually had a few good points.

Who the fuck are you clown? Neither you, Homeless Dave nor Minuteman Walter are going to come close to 10% of the vote COMBINED.

Villaraigosa will poll about 92%

January 30, 2009 9:29 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Thanks to ABC News Nightline, KNBC 4 11 o'clock news and now FOX 11 10 o'clock news on Friday, for featuring Zuma Dogg in their broadcasts this past week!

And tune into Doug McIntyre's NEW 9AM hour on Monday as Zuma Dogg, candidate for mayor, makes an in-studio appearance. Scheduled for 9:30am.

January 31, 2009 12:57 PM  

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