F*ck You, Sarah Palin
"Before I became governor of the great state of Alaska I was mayor of my hometown. And since our opponents in this presidential election seem to look down on that experience, let me explain to them what the job involves. I guess -- I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer, except that you have actual responsibilities." -- Sarah Palin
"America... I've given you all and now I'm nothing..." -- Allen Ginsberg
Thank you Sarah Palin. Thank you for pointing out that in over a decade of serving my community as a community organizer... it all means nothing to you.
Back in December, Mayor Sam once opined that strong, opinionated women like myself and Kim Thompson should run for City Council. We would "kick ass" as he wrote.
In a Sarah Palin world, my efforts to do such a thing wouldn't amount to a hill of beans. Why should I, or anyone who isn't already in the political establishment try to make a difference, try to change the status quo when all our community activist work is meaningless?
Oh, Sarah likes to say that she's just a simple hockey mom with a dream, who joined the PTA (guess what, any stuffed monkey can join the PTA -- it only requires sending in your membership dues and adding your name to the roster) ... did she actually hold an executive position on the PTA? Was she ever a PTA President? Did she chair any PTA events or fundraisers, or did she just send in her membership dues?
Ten years of organizing community events, ten years of devoting my life to helping children, parents and teachers and neighbors and friends ... and in Sarah's world... it don't mean shit.
Walter Moore, dude... I invited you to my school to come and speak in opposition to Prop. S to inform and alert my community. I was at your Rally in the Valley looking to support you and the Shaws. I'm done doing that. It doesn't matter. My efforts don't count.
Ron Kaye ... I sent out email blasts, baked cupcakes, went to the SLAP protest at City Hall and brought two little girls with me who wanted to help bring change too, all this in order to try and help my hopelessly lost city find reform and redemption. I'm done with that now, too. It doesn't matter. My efforts don't count. Not in Sarah Palin's eyes.
Thank you for marginalizing and belittling the last ten years of my life, and the lives of every community organizer who has lovingly given hours and hours of their time (with no pay) in the hopes of making their communities a little bit better than how they found them.
Well... looks like I've got plenty of time on my hands now. Anyone wanna do lunch?
"America... I've given you all and now I'm nothing..." -- Allen Ginsberg
Thank you Sarah Palin. Thank you for pointing out that in over a decade of serving my community as a community organizer... it all means nothing to you.
Back in December, Mayor Sam once opined that strong, opinionated women like myself and Kim Thompson should run for City Council. We would "kick ass" as he wrote.
In a Sarah Palin world, my efforts to do such a thing wouldn't amount to a hill of beans. Why should I, or anyone who isn't already in the political establishment try to make a difference, try to change the status quo when all our community activist work is meaningless?
Oh, Sarah likes to say that she's just a simple hockey mom with a dream, who joined the PTA (guess what, any stuffed monkey can join the PTA -- it only requires sending in your membership dues and adding your name to the roster) ... did she actually hold an executive position on the PTA? Was she ever a PTA President? Did she chair any PTA events or fundraisers, or did she just send in her membership dues?
Ten years of organizing community events, ten years of devoting my life to helping children, parents and teachers and neighbors and friends ... and in Sarah's world... it don't mean shit.
Walter Moore, dude... I invited you to my school to come and speak in opposition to Prop. S to inform and alert my community. I was at your Rally in the Valley looking to support you and the Shaws. I'm done doing that. It doesn't matter. My efforts don't count.
Ron Kaye ... I sent out email blasts, baked cupcakes, went to the SLAP protest at City Hall and brought two little girls with me who wanted to help bring change too, all this in order to try and help my hopelessly lost city find reform and redemption. I'm done with that now, too. It doesn't matter. My efforts don't count. Not in Sarah Palin's eyes.
Thank you for marginalizing and belittling the last ten years of my life, and the lives of every community organizer who has lovingly given hours and hours of their time (with no pay) in the hopes of making their communities a little bit better than how they found them.
Well... looks like I've got plenty of time on my hands now. Anyone wanna do lunch?
Labels: allen ginsberg, community organizers, kim thompson, mayor sam, PTA, Ron Kaye, sarah palin, walter moore
Posted by Debbie @ 9/04/2008 09:48:00 AM
92 Comments:
Can somebody put a muzzle on Valley Dull we already know you "luv ya xoxoxoxo" Obama.
Do you think anybody cares about you opinion on the presidentail race?
The blog is titled "Home of Los Angeles politics" if you have something new and interesting about L.A. politics then blog away, otherwise you are blowing in the wind just like your good friend Don Quixote.
FIRST
FIRST
FIRST
FU BACK
Yeah, how about that. Just curious, is that a rather large voting bloc? My guess is that they would more likely have voted for the other guy, the one who's a community organizer anyway.
Would you have voted for her anyway?
I'm a community organizer through service clubs and chambers of commerce. I say 'you go girl'.
Valley Dude from the barrio of Van Nuys
I put Sarah Palin on eBay.
That comment really pssd me off and then I had a good laugh. The last thing the GOP wants is a community of determined individuals who challenge the status quo and actually accomplish goals. Please enjoy a great lunch and get back to work. We need you.
"Love You, Sarah Palin"
10:15
NOT
NOT
NOT
LOSER
lulz
xoxo
"community organizer" is one step below teacher in terms of ability. If you want to organize a community, fine. But it just means you do not have the guts to make your own stake or run for office, and would rather blather on to people about how to write letters and get money from the gov't
What Sarah Palin is talking about is not community activists like me, Valley Doll, Ron Kaye, the Shaws, etc. but something very akin to an issue Zuma Dogg brings up often.
The dreaded community non-profit.
These are the non-profits that suck up government contracts, make sure certain politicians get elected (to keep the cash coming, and very rarely produce a result (LA Bridges ring any bells?).
This is far different than the PTA, SLAP, The Rotary Club, NOW, NRA, Girl Scouts, Planned Parenthood, Red Cross, etc. which work off an army of volunteers and get results.
Sarah was comparing her experience as Mayor to that of Obama's role of exploiting hot issues to suck up government contracts and use that to work your way up the political food chain.
Valley Doll, your work is out of your heart, as an activist for the communities you love.
Obama's work is because he loves himself and wanted a stepping stone.
Mock indignation on full display.
Can we put Palin's "Community Organizer" comment in context.
We all know that Tony Villar was a "organizer" for UTLA, and like Obama his organizer duties were tied into a political machine that had more to do with "feeding the machine" than truly enpowering the community.
So with that said, why can't we say "SCREW YOU OBAMA" for feeding the "machine", that is known nation-wide as the Daley Machine??
....and to my bubbly friend,
BIG HUGS!!
Spot
I see Joe MailHandler made a silly comment about Sarah Palin and E-Bay, I wonder if Joe Mailhandler's blog has any readers besides Don Quackers and his alter egos Drinking with Tony and Santiago?
I would put Joe MailHandler's blog on E-Bay, except it's not worth 2 cents.
Red Spot said: Mock indignation on full display.
Mock indignation? Spot, you don't think I'm fully seriously when I write about how I felt at hearing that?
That's a very condesending remark.
xoxo
One would think that your response would be different if she was a democrat.
Obama's community organizing was the type in which people go into neighborhoods that no one else cares about, the poorest of the poor, and help them with the basic needs of life.
That's a far cry from the people of the NRA who work to help people arm themselves.
What Palin was saying is that getting out into the streets, the dirty streets, is not something that the McCain campaign is interested in. Their belief is that if you befriend the rich and powerful they will create jobs for the needy and share their wealth with those who need it, like oil companies are doing now.
Community organizing to create political power among the poor is a very effective means of helping them get the power to help themselves so there isn't a continued reliance on the welfare state.
Bullshit Spot.
Otherwise, if I only played it Democrat, I'd never give Walter Moore the time of day, right? He's still registered Republican, right?
xoxo
10:47 said: "community organizer" is one step below teacher in terms of ability.
Uh huh. Hmmm... okaaaaay.
Hey teachers, FU, too. You're about as worthless I am.
The 'Tard Nation(tm) has spoken.
xoxo
Not really,
I don't look at Walter in only Republican terms, or Democratic for that matter. What I look at is the intent and substance of what the person brings to the dialog.
Michael Higby said: Obama's work is because he loves himself and wanted a stepping stone.
And you know this from the many late night talks you and Obama have had? He confided this to you, Michael, that he only worked as a community organizer because he loves hisself?
Girlfriend, please.
xoxo
Red Spot said: I don't look at Walter in only Republican terms, or Democratic for that matter. What I look at is the intent and substance of what the person brings to the dialog.
Oh, and so you think I don't do that, too, is that what you're trying to say? You can make those distinctions, but what... I can't?
Bullshit. Hypocrisy in da howze!
xoxo
11:04 Oh the vitriol! At least Joseph Mailander owns his words. How 'bout you, Annonymous Loser?
Too scaredy cat to own yours?
Cowardly Bitch.
Actually, reality just walked through the door.
Would you agree that what Palin was alluding to with the "Community Organizer" remark was Obama's work with the likes of "DOMESTIC TERRORIST" Bill Ayers on the Annenberg Education Project in Chicago??
This link will begin to give you an idea of how Wall Street and the investing community feel about Palin. Surprisingly, the response is very mixed.
Among the postings you will find what may be the first use of the term "boy" to describe Obama, and explanations that Palin's $40 billion natural pipeline project, which has been touted as a means toward U.S. energy independence actually is going to Alberta, Canada, and the contract to build it was awarded to a Canadian firm.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/93883-sarah-palin-wall-street-s-candidate?source=d_email
ST. PAUL - Sarah Palin says she didn't need any focus group in her campaign for city council in Wasilla, Alaska. But a national focus group following Palin's address to the Republican National Convention suggests that the soccer mom scored a goal or two.
The results of a national survey conducted Wednesday night among 1,000 self-reported Democrats, Republicans and Independents showed that Palin boosted her own image with her speech Wednesday night. Media Curves reports on the study by HCD Research and the Muhlenberg College Institute of Public Opinion, designed to gauge perceptions of Palin.
They found:
-- After seeing the speech, greater numbers of people "across all parties believe that McCain's selection of the first-term Alaska governor will help his campaign.''
-- Republicans were especially positive, with nearly three-quarters suggesting the pick will "definitely" help. Seventy percent of the Republicans said they will "definitely" vote for the ticket of John McCain and Sarah Palin.
-- Palin's speech proved "equally effective in swaying votes for both men and women.''
-- Among independents who saw the speech, those who said they will "probably" or "definitely" vote for McCain increased by 10 percent among men and women.
The viewers were asked questions before and after the speech, and emotions were measured using the Ayer Emotion Battery.
Dear Spot, you didn't answer my question.
Can *I* not make judgements on my own (I know, my Lady Brain can only handle so much) based on "intent and substance of what the person brings to the dialog", as you claim you do?
Why are YOU able to make such distinctions and I am not?
Could you answer that?
xoxo
Hey Valley Doll....
Why are you a "community organizer" at all?
Most people who work in their communities do it because they want to improve their communities, because they love their towns, NOT because they are so egomaniacal that they need adulation from the stages of political conventions.
If you really cared about your community (which your blog post suggests you don't) you would NOT quit (as your post suggests you are now doing) because Palin criticized Obama's lack of experience to be President. GROW UP, QUIT WHINING, and get back to your activities for the better of your community -- of OUR community.
What does a community organizer do?
I get tired of the liberal mind set that the highest calling a person can have is to be a community activist.
You want to help your community, how about starting a business and providing people jobs!
As one who is also a "community organizer", my message would be that you can enpower yourself to answer that question.
Spot, that's a platitude, it isn't an answer.
"I" as in me, calls that a response to you.
"I" as in you, were wrong in dissing Palin by insinuating that she was slighting the work of all "community organizers".
....and can we agree that politics has no place in community work?? That is unless your community work benefits a machine over community.
Southwest Society, ACORN and a Collective SPACE come to mind.
Spot said: ....and can we agree that politics has no place in community work?? That is unless your community work benefits a machine over community.
Tell it to Sarah, Spot.
xoxo
"Thank you for marginalizing and belittling the last ten years of my life..."
You're welcome, dear.
You've been married only 18 years (re: your comment September 03, 2008 1:30 PM, countdown to failure thread)? If we compare marriages, my dear, you're still a newlywed. My husband and I celebrated our eighteenth anniversary twenty-one years ago. Would you like to exchange recipes?
Valley Ditz, I come from an age where young ones didn't talk back to those their senior, no matter how much sense or nonsense the senior citizens made.
Mister Higby, please fire this bitter valley resident from your blog - soap operas bore me, but they do make more sense than V.D.
Mister Mailander, have you received any bids on e-bay for her? I'll wager someone asked you to pay them to take her off your hands.
'Bye, Vulgar Dunce.
So, V.D., you think that you are qualified to be POTUS or VPOTUS? Haven't you heard -- it's not about YOU !!!
And this is why . . . given the "perfect" political storm to sail in (war, low approval rating for Bush, possible recession looming, anti-incumbentism, and a 'charismatic' new Dem at the helm), the liberals are still panicking like they've just been caught shoplifting.
They KNOW Obama should have been up double digits in the polls after his "Deification in Denver" concert tour.
They KNOW that millions on the left and near-left are truly pissed that their last best chance to have a female on the ticket for another two decades was botched by petty internal party rivalies (and how hypocritical the party of the "ERA" now looks).
They KNOW the best they can hope for with several million of those is that they just DON'T vote, rather than switch sides.
And the best responses they can muster is: "FU" -- "it's YOUR fault our leaders don't mean what they say, or say what they mean."
"It's YOUR fault, we can't win the White House fer shizzle no matter how weak the oppositions seems (to us).
Boo hoo. We're offended. We're hurt. You dissed us.
Cry all night long. And, dig deep and hard to find more "dirt" on the Barracuda. (It will only help turnout FOR her).
But, remember ALL the garbage the L.A. Slimes pulled out for weeks on AH-nold (and how it just solidified his support?)
You better hope Sarah Palin was a Nazi war criminal in a previous life, and she's willing to admit it. Because McCain just unleashed the very same political force that pushed doddering Geo. W. into the presidency -- TWICE. And, it's a force no liberal can even begin to control or even diminish. Ask Gore, ask Kerry . . .
At this rate, the best hope they may have of ever seeing another Democrat in the White House is if Joe Leiberman lives long enough to get called up as a VP candidate for the NEXT GOP candidate.
12:10:
One of the things that community organizers do is to help people learn how to drag themselves out of poverty by starting their own businesses and hiring people.
Let's not forget that what Sarah Palin said did not come from her.
If it had, all she would have been able to talk about is her own experiences being the governor of Alaska, shooting defenseless animals, trying to separate her state from the union, and applying for a passport.
What she said was the result of being cloistered for several days with speechwriters who told her what to say.
don't you have your own blog joseph mailander?why don't you post your thoughts there?oh you want someone to actually see them.
I can't stand either party's offerings this year. Absolutely HATE them. Lying, revisionist-history, spin-f*cktor scumbags.
I'm forced to vote Green so I can live with my noisy conscience.
Jeeeeezzussssssss.....
Dude, you made cupcakes for Ron, but not for me?
Where is the love? Where are the sprinkles?
Actually, it's okay. I should lay off cupcakes for about nine years.
12:53, how about an office pool ($20 min.)?
Will Ms. Palin's 'own words'...
a) MEET
b) SURPASS
c) FALL SHORT
...of the abject idiocy that came out of Dan Quayle's mouth when no one was writing for him?
Any takers?
The Republicans can't hog all the controversy spotlight!
The Washington Post reports that Democratic Vice Presidential candidate Joe Biden has some drama going on in his family.
His brother, James, and son, Hunter, are being sued by a former business partner named Anthony Lotito Jr. for defrauding him and an investor of millions of dollars in a hedge fund deal that went sour, according to court records.
James and Hunter Biden have counterattacked and say that Lotito defrauded them by misrepresenting his experience in the hedge fund industry and recommending that they hire a lawyer with felony convictions.
The fighting between the Bidens and Lotito has been going on in a NY courtroom since November 2007.
Lotito also alleges that Uncle James persuaded him to add an inexperienced Hunter Biden to the team for politics sake. Hunter, who was working as a D.C. lobbyist, was in need of a career change because the Bidens supposedly thought it would 'hurt' Joe Biden's presidential bid at the time to have a lobbyist son.
In an affidavit, Hunter swore his father had nothing to do with the deal and that it is Lotito who swindled the Bidens.
When contacted for comment, the Obama-Biden campaign referred the Post to the lawyer repping the accused Bidens.
He said:
"This lawsuit has nothing to do with Joe Biden, and there is absolutely no truth to those allegations. It is a business dispute between former partners. The suit is baseless."
This 'drama' is a yawner compared to the crazy shiz going down with the Republican's Palin!
But it's still fun.
Dig up more dirt on the Dems too!
I'm not defending just commenting...At first I thought the big distinction was Volunteer organizer vs PAID organizer. Then I realized that many small town mayors maybe just get a stipend, if that. I guess the real difference is that in many places (not LA of course)elected officials (paid or not paid) are accountable to the people, while community organizers (paid or unpaid)may work "for the people", but really don't have a the same accountability structure to answer too or measurements for productivity . You can't ding volunteers for productivity unless they promised they would do xyz for the cause.....
Given that I was in the same class as Obama for the two years he was there(Occidental) and never thought of getting paid for my tons of hours of community volunteerism, and actually had to work a job in addition to pay the bills, let alone think that it would be a major item to hang my hat on for presidential qualifications. I wonder where I missed the boat.
.... Barak Community Guy, whatever with one of his elbow buddies being Hate America Bill Ayers, NOT 3 decades ago but just a few years ago in Chicago, a city that Tony Avenues OUR 'alcalde' aspires to make L.A. like the great gangster governing of that city in the Mid West, Chicago.
Wm Ayers,Obamas friend now a public paid 'professor', SAID after 2001 'NOT ENOUGH WAS DONE' against the USA. Remember this guy, a convicted 'weatherground bomber'of the sixties. Democrat Peace Power (sic).
...Biden, who the hell is that?
Petra,
Left out "D" for none of the above.
The way I took her comment was to mean that, IN RESPONSE TO CRITICISM OF HER EXPERIENCE, she did things as a mayor that did not allow the possible flexibiity that commmunity organizing could tolerate; she had to come through with something to the end, no matter what else happened.
And that was the difference between her and the Democratic opponents- actually the Dem. Pres candidate compared to Rep. V-P candidate.
I did not take it as a put down of community organizers at large like many did.
in L.A.
Actually as someone who was around, engaged and active in the 88 campaign (Dukakis-Bentsen supporter, PLEASE don't shoot me, I've reformed) I can tell you
"I saw Dan Quayle on television. I knew Dan Quayle was an idiot. Sarah Palin is no Dan Quayle."
Actually that's true because Palin has been smooth from minute one where Quayle was some big giant goofball looking like a dork who got a date on prom night when Bush announced him. He slugged Bush in his muscle and had the dumbest grin on his face. They said it took ten days to get him to calm down and focus.
And the truth is Quayle is actually a very intelligent guy. He just isn't a slick speaker.
By the way the minute Quayle was announced they started slamming him, saying he had an affair, embezzled money, etc. And he was younger and less experienced than Palin.
Walter Moore is not a Republican anymore.
Hang in there Valley Doll!
Like as with Obama's involvement, community organizing is one of the vertebrae in the backbone of the country, local community work is invaluable and most of the time the effort shows immediate results, whereas national and statewide organizing is more ponderous and results take longer to filter down to the people in most need of assistance.
Anyone who has ever been involved in community organizing and development knows this full well.
To disparage the good people who are involved in local neighborhood and community organizing is based either on fear of success or just plain ignorance.
And for your colleagues here at Mayor Sams to not acknowledge this value and yours specifically, while protecting some naive politically motivated nonsense in the speech by Palin is I would think very telling.
Political campaigns and elections come around every once in a while but true friendship should be non partisan and above petty political sloganeering.
Tell it like it is Valley Doll!
Maybe you should put your feet up, light a few candles, brew some tea...and chill
It's not about you
But since you're scanning the comments all day to see what everyone says, i guess you think is is all about you
Garbage mouths are a turn off. I'm sick of offensive mouths. I'm not going to bother reading the blogs that use it. All it shows is the ignorance of the writer that doesn't know any other way to get their point across. I am especially disappointed in Valley Doll. You're not "cool" any longer. Clean up your actif you want to be heard. That goes for all of you with the garbage mouths.
don quixote are you going to vote for that mayate obama?what would the emeros say?you claim to know 3 generations of mexican mafia right?
Valley Doll should invite Don Quixote over for cupcakes and D.Q. can bring over some of his abuelita's menudo. Menudo and cupcakes can be very comforting in these trying times.
Don't worry Valley Doll we will give Sarah's speech writer one of those infamous D.Q. menudo enemas !!!!
Read the kind words of your buen amigo D.Q. one more time, Valley Doll you are beautiful, important and appreciated by all the citizens of the L.A. area for all you have done for our community.
We luv ya babe,
xoxoxoxoxo
Tio Lolo
Obama's Community Roots By David Moberg
Freshly graduated from Columbia University and working for a New York business consultant, Barack Obama decided to become a community organizer. Though he liked the idea, he didn't understand what the job involved, and his inquiries turned up few opportunities.
Then he got a call from Jerry Kellman, an organizer working on Chicago's far South Side for a community group based in the churches of the region, an expanse of white, black and Latino blue-collar neighborhoods that were reeling from the steel-mill closings. Kellman was looking for an organizer for the new Developing Communities Project (DCP), which would focus on black city neighborhoods.
Obama, only 24, struck board members as "awesome" and "extremely impressive," and they quickly hired him, at $13,000 a year, plus $2,000 for a car--a beat-up blue Honda Civic, which Obama drove for the next three years organizing more than twenty congregations to change their neighborhoods.
Despite some meaningful victories, the work of Obama--and hundreds of other organizers--did not transform the South Side or restore lost industries. But it did change the young man who became the junior senator from Illinois in 2004, and it provides clues to his worldview as he bids for the Democratic presidential nomination.
"I can't say we didn't make mistakes, that I knew what I was doing," Obama recalled three years ago to a boisterous convention of the still-active DCP. "Sometimes I called a meeting, and nobody showed up. Sometimes preachers said, 'Why should I listen to you?' Sometimes we tried to hold politicians accountable, and they didn't show up. I couldn't tell whether I got more out of it than this neighborhood."
But, he continued, "I grew up to be a man, right here, in this area. It's as a consequence of working with this organization and this community that I found my calling. There was something more than making money and getting a fancy degree. The measure of my life would be public service."
After a transient youth and an earnest search for identity, Obama also found a home--a community with which he continued relationships, a church and a political identity. He honed his talent for listening, learned pragmatic strategy, practiced bringing varied people together and developed a faith in ordinary citizens that still influences his campaign message.
Real classy title VD......do you kiss your mother with that mouth?? It's not about YOU!!! Its about a political hack using the guise of "community organizer" to further his political ambition on the backs of others. The man never had a REAL job in his life.
A twenty year old came knocking at my door about a year ago or so and told me he was going door to door for ACORN.
I didn't know that work could qualify him as President!
are you retarded valley doll?
palin's comment was in response to Obama's camp belittling HER service as a small town mayor.
all she was doing was shoving down their throats.
DOESN'T FEEL GOOD, DOES IT?
YOUR CLASSLESS TITLE OF THIS POST SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT YOU. Are you surprised that people like Walter and Ron ignore you?
Stupid DQ -
I've been a community "organizer" for decades. I've started organizations and am very familiar with the value of community service. In fact, I believe community service organizations are far more effective than government and most service work should be turned over to them from running the libraries, parks, health clinics, etc. to educating children.
At the same time I know the difference between the volunteers like Valley Doll and the "poverty pimps" like Obama or Villaraigosa or Julie Butcher who are only looking out for the next government grant.
It is interesting to notice how difficult it is for Republicans to understand why someone would give up a high paying job in the corporate world to work for pennies in inpoverished neighborhoods.
Mother Teresa have been a real puzzlement to them.
Don Dunderhead said:
Political campaigns and elections come around every once in a while but true friendship should be non partisan and above petty political sloganeering.
Tell it like it is Valley Doll!
Words of wisdom from the wisened sage? Naw! It's just dq the lech tryin to hit on the VDoll.
Joe MailHandler use to trash us on the blog for being vulgar. I guess it is okay for Valley Doll to be vulgar if she's on the same of the fence as MailHandler.
2:39
THANK YOU DON Q, FOR THOSE OF US THAT BELIEVE IN V.D.
SHE TELLS IT LIKE IT IS AND SOME CAN'T HANDLE IT..
APPARENTLY 10:07 GIVES A RATS A.. CAUSE HE'S ADDRESSING THE OPINIONS OF THOSE THAT HAVE ONE..
XOXOXOXOX
Stupid DQ?
Wow! Mayor Sam Higby, quite a reaction to an honest opinion and retort to you and some others here disparraging "Community Organizers", like the "Ice Queen of Mean" Gov Sarah Palin.
I must have really touched a nerve like Sarah Palin did with her callous remark that indicates her disconnect from the rest of America, that isn't full of hockey moms and moose hunters and small town mayors who evidently don't take to kindly to us city folks that aren't snowmobile owners, moose hunters, evangelist anti abortion, prayer in school, anti Darwin creationist, tree hugging, all around bleeding hearts, who might want to help their fellow man by community work.
Sarah Palin on Community work:
“I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer, except that you have actual responsibilities"
I'm still wondering why Dem candidate for US President Obama is a "Pimp" in your eyes Mayor Sam Higby? Angry words for the US Senator and possible President, and I wonder if you could extrapolate on your severe and ugly epithet.
Did he just lay around in the shade? Did he steal funds from the coffers? Did he and some black muslims pull some welfare scam? (hey didn't Cindy McCain steal some drugs form the drug clinic she volunteered at?)
Maybe you ought to explain about "Pimp Daddy Obama" the community organizer to Valley Doll and other "community organizers" who seem a little miffed in spite of your Palin apology.
Keep up the good work Doll. I'm very proud of you.
JM, one wouldn't make much selling her on ebay. Then again, if the right person were to purchase her, that could guarantee she will not do any more harm to the public.
Doesn't Sara Palin sound and look like a comedian?
http://www.encyclomedia.com/video-judy_tenuta.html
Lezlyee
8:07 you are nuts.
Sarah Palin is extremely good looking, and was runner up for Ms. Alaska.
Methinks you're a bit jealous that a woman would have five children and still turn mens' heads.
I assume that this is Valley Doll's final sign off.
Not only did she have a meltdown, she is delusional to think she is a community organizer.
I guess, dolly, you have no idea what an ACTUAL community organizer is.
It means LABOR organizer you IDIOT!
I am an independent, not a Republican.
Don Q. hypocritical racsit....
"I'm still wondering why Dem candidate for US President Obama is a "Pimp" in your eyes Mayor Sam Higby? Angry words for the US Senator and possible President, and I wonder if you could extrapolate on your severe and ugly epithet."
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I'm still wondering when D.Q. is going to explain his calling blacks mayates, chanates and changos.
D.Q. - do you still think blacks or mayates as you choose to call blacks are lazy and condescing especially the civil service employees.
Talk about a hypocrite and racist Jack-Ass D.Q. you are the messiah and grand poobah of pendejos.
Did you forget all you menudo enema comments when confrontted by your own vile vitriol? Eres un estupido y baboso.
Don Q. should stick to talking to his good "amigo" Santiago about huevos rancheros. El Chavo is waiting for you Don Culo. hahahaha
http://chanfles.com/blog/?p=888#comments
Can anyone think of a single elected official of national stature who is more disconnected with the rest of the United States than Sarah Palin?
Hey, that's VICE PRESIDENT Sarah Palin.
Get used to it. And get in touch with what's going on outside of Los Angeles.
I'll take as a "no."
Do you all see what's happening here?
Palin's remarks were dismissive of all community organizers -- those who choose to spend their time giving back to their community.
On this blog many have decided that she couldn't have meant them -- that they are a different kind of community organizer. A good kind.
But Palin never, even after the speech, attempted to clarify that point.
It was if the Republicans were saying that we don't need those kinds of people because government will take care of everyone's problems and needs.
September 04, 2008 8:17 PM says:
"Sarah Palin is extremely good looking, and was runner up for Ms. Alaska.
Methinks you're a bit jealous that a woman would have five children and still turn mens' heads."
Sure, I'd be jealous, if I were to dress like a drag queen.
What, with qualifications like almost Miss Alaska, you gotta vote for her. It's those other "qualifications" I'm considering as well.
AGAIN, the Obama people were belittling Palin's being Mayor of a tiny town before winning Governor.
What she said is that being the mayor of a small town, is like that of being a community organizer (LITERALLY), except that the mayor has responsibilities.
She was not referring to those of us who are in the PTA, baseball coaches, et al. She is referring to community LABOR organizers, such as UNION ORGANIZERS.
Don't be stupid. Learn to LISTEN.
Hey, this "community organizer" gig sounds great. You get to feel real righteous and important, with no real responsibilities or accountability, and hopefully glom some grant money from the taxpayers. And best of all, it requires absolutely no intelligence or education, just a strong 'hall monitor" desire to direct how others should think and live their lives.
The volunteers or community organizers in Los Angeles do a hell of a lot more then the idiots in city hall. This is the reason the clowncil morons are beginning to take over and put their own people in neighborhood councils. Community organizers in Los Angeles get more done to clean up neighborhoods, help the poor, paint out graffitti and the list goes on. These are the jobs of the moron clowncil but guess what/ THEY DON'T GIVE A SHIT ANYMORE!!!!! Before you say anything this reporter who is breaking this story is the same one who did the John Edwards story. Palin's husband looks whimpy so who would blame her?
.....McCain camp denies Enquirer story, threatens lawsuit
ST. PAUL (CNN) – A senior adviser to John McCain’s campaign threatened a lawsuit against the National Enquirer Wednesday over “baseless attacks” in a cover story about Sarah Palin that included allegations of marital infidelity.
People who have viewed this video have changed their mind on Palin.
Governor Sarah Palin: A Champion for Brutal Aerial Hunting
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Don Q. hypocritical racsit....
"I'm still wondering why Dem candidate for US President Obama is a "Pimp" in your eyes Mayor Sam Higby? Angry words for the US Senator and possible President, and I wonder if you could extrapolate on your severe and ugly epithet."
don what are you talking about i could show you countless posts of yours saying much worse about blacks, also how come every site you vistit there is santiago big betty marty and the rest of your charaters all complimenting you?do you want me to name all the sites so people can see they are all you.
4:08 Neither Palin nor any Republican officials made that clarification. Just you. Because you want badly to believe that it's true.
5:56 Clearly you have no idea what community organizers do. My guess that is that you've never spent any time in a poor neighborhood. You probably don't like community organizers because you know that Obama was one and that means that you have to hate and demean everything that he is and was. Don't be afraid of this black man. He won't hurt you.
I realize what it is that makes me uneasy with Palin and her family. It's like watching an episode of Dukes of Hazzard.
Wouldn't like to know how Bush and Cheney feel after listening to Republican after Republican condemn their administration and say that they, the Hee Haw gang will make things better.
Imagine how Bush's speechwriters must feel having to write all these damning comments for McCain and Palin.
Don Quackers writes ...
Stupid DQ?
Wow! Mayor Sam Higby, quite a reaction to an honest opinion and retort to you and some others here disparraging "Community Organizers", like the "Ice Queen of Mean" Gov Sarah Palin.
Yes D.Q. you are very stupid, you bounce from blog to blog making an ass of yourself, stupid fits you perfectly. Is this a different D.Q. on this blog. hahahahaha
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Sarah Palin had a choice, but wouldn't extend that choice to other women, 90% of whom would choose differently.
Walter Moore said: I am an independent, not a Republican.
Walter, I am sooo sorry to have made that mistake. The point I was trying to make, is that whatever party you belong to, it is NOT the political party that I am registered to, therefore refuting Red Spots assertion that I am incapable of making rational judgements based on informatin, rather than party loyalty.
I mean, WTF... Tony Villar is a goddamn Democrat and we all know how I feel about *his* stoopid ass.
I don't like being condescended to, and like Sarah Palin... won't be told to Sit Down.
I owe you cupcakes, Dude. What's yer fave flav?
xoxo
V.D. needs to stop thinking the world revolves around her. People who think that every comment reflects badly on their character have very low self-esteem and need to make up for it by being obnoxiously loud and stupid.
Sounds familiar V.D.? I would suggest that you sit down do some yoga or maybe go to the gym and do a workout. Remember Palin's comments were not meant to denigrate you personally. If you think that every comment by politicians apply to you then you have some sort of complex and need to get over it.
By community organizer, I assume Palin means the lefty, labor goon-inspired, Marcusan, vote-buying, walk-around-money dispensing, Saul Alinsky-reading Haymarket-bomb reminiscin', WTO-hatin', public-dollar supported Chicago kind. You know, Democrats, Villagarosa-defending, Boy Scouts opposin' socialism at home and appeasement abroad, woe is us, raise taxes to cut carbon emissions, open borders, criminal bills of rights-writing high-minded lefty dempsters. And not folks who support the PTA, write right-wing blogs, attend Neighborhood Watch, run for homeowner boards. No bourgeoise need apply.
hey Valley Doll, plz watch and support my daughter....she's a finalist right now on Australian idol. love or hate Matt Dowd, this is worth a minute to see the judges be so mean after her great performance.
she needs a wildcard win now to make the final 12. vote if you can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2p6fI8kppA
Community Organizer:
•reach out and work with communities in various ways.
•liaison with, and for, community agencies for service within affected areas.
•fight to make a difference.
•raise awareness.
•deal with community issues.
•raise awareness in the community of how we are making differences about undealt-with issues .
•when necessary, refer inquiries to outreach coordinators.
•Help coordination agency administrators identify and address outreach opportunities.
•model timetables and conceptualize benchmarks.
•issue guidelines for poster contests and interpretive dance festivals.
•Gather voter registrations, win valuable prizes.
Palin was responding to the Obama campaign's statement about her experience, plain and simple.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is not paying attention.
In contrast, Obama's "clinging to their guns and bibles" remark was definitely targeted towards a specific group.
Still, you don't see gun owners and black churchgoers jumping ship from his campaign.
Though, in my opinion, they would certainly have every right to.
Reading the comments always makes me think-
About the real message the author sending....
I would just to say being a community organizer and or activist is great and shows you really care about what happens in your neighborhood.
When you are a community volunteer you do it on your own time. You work on issues you care about.
But what Sarah Palin did was go a lot further.
When you are a city council-person you have decided to put you and your family into the spotlight and therefore are fair game for praise and criticism. You have to listen and represent everyone whether you agree with them or not on issues.
When you are the Mayor you do that plus you are the executive decision maker. The buck stops with you. Set the tone and a course a the while staying financially within the budget. When you sit on statewide commissions and committees you embark on a course where you look at issues statewide and sometimes globally as to how the population is affected.
When you are the governor you do all the things the mayor does but you have the state senate, assembly-persons, counties, cities, commissioners, committees, government agencies,unions, businesses, political groups, special interest groups and lobbyists, etc coming at you at all times. The press and media looking for you to make a mistake, make a poor decision or one they don't agree with so they can come after you with a vengeance.
Sarah Palin didn't say being a community activist or organizer wasn't good. She didn't say they were not worthy and needed. She just wanted to remind you that being a city council person, a mayor and governor different. That you can't compare his experience to hers because it's different. It's apples and oranges.
As a matter of fact she didn't even put her time as a community organizer down on her resume due to the fact she had so many other accomplishments there just wasn't enough room...
Ask yourself, "if she were a man, would you be asking these questions?" I wonder if they asked Margaret Thatcher these questions Sarah is being asked...We didn't ask the female msnbc reporter who's been following the campaigns who's watching her toddler twins and newborn while she is on the campaign trail...
It's against the law to ask a woman how many children she has, or even if she's pregnant when she interviews for a job. Sarah Palin has been an elected official for over ten years. No one questioned her attendance at work or asked who was watching the kids...It's not our problem to solve, it's her and her families decision to make how they work it out. It's their choice.
Sarah was not puttin down community organizers. She seems like a hard workers and stands for what she believes in.
This makes her a better candidate then anyone else in the race. I wish she was running for president. She does what is right and stands her ground.
Gun owners and church goers (excepting the radical black church) can't jump from Obama's campaign for one simple reason; they aren't there.
Notice that McCain has pulled ahead by three in the Gallup poll and by TEN in the USA poll.
Obama's teflon is wearing thin...
Palin was elected with about 900 votes as Mayor of Wasilla. She didn't need a focus group for such a small town. She got a liitle over 100,000 votes to become governor of a republican majority state with a population of 700,000because she knocked out the republican governor in the primary over ethics scandals. She is always in the right place at the right time,and has a great knack for self-promotion, but would you want her in charge if Putin and Chavez decide to put Russian missiles in Venezuela? I'd rather have a liitle more smarts in the White House at a time like that, rather than a political newbie from Alaska. McCain's health is a real issue, and I question his denial of his own condition by picking someone with so little national experience to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
another bad choice. palin is the tool of the republican party she'll forget the voters as soon as she and mccann are elected. she's chaney in another body. buyer beware!!!
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