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Thursday, May 25, 2006

Open Thread For Thursday

The L.A. City Council voted, again, to have the City Attorney seek judicial review of the Ninth Circuit ruling that invalidated the City's law against living on sidewalks. However, Councilmen Jose Huizar, Jack Weiss and Bill Rosendahl voted against the move. (Thanks, fellahs. How about we park 'em on the sidewalk in front of YOUR house?)

Some teenagers found a way to get the mayor to let them drive around with him in his City SUV all day: promise to bring a camcorder.

Half a million dollars or so is missing from the City's share of the parking lot at Hollywood and Highland.

Joan Baez is camping in a tree on a lot downtown that trespassers are using for farming.

So, all in all, just another typical day in L.A.


Anonymous Anonymous said:

The LA Weekly endorsed Jonathan Levey over Barry Groveman and Julia Brownley in the 41st assembly district.

May 25, 2006 7:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good post Walter. Joan Baez is up in the tree for publicity. The has been actors like Laura Dern and Daryl Hannah are just doing it for publicity.

Why would Jose Huizar vote against appealing? Homeless are moving into his area and you can bet if the main street in his area became another skid row he would think differently.

May 25, 2006 7:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OK, you don't own the land but you want to keep farming on it. Riiiiight.

I'm not mad at Mr. Horowitz for wanting a return on his investment. Why can't the farmers find somewhere else to farm?

Also, how many of the farmers are here legally. Maybe Mr. Horowitz should call the INS. What if he agrees to hire some of the men on the "farm" as construction workers? would that suffice?

There seems to be no stopping anyone who is latino from asking for, and damn near getting what they want in L.A.

You want to block the streets with a protest? - Sure.

You don't want to pay taxes on your taco cart? - Sure

You don't want to pay a business tax for seling cars on public streets? - sure

How about we let the valley secede next time?

May 25, 2006 7:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, I'd agree with the previous poster about the farming if only Horowitz wasn't such a dick about everything he does.

I wish they could all lose.

May 25, 2006 8:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jose and Jack voted against it because they are both lawyers and can read the cases.

This, unfortunately, is one we can't win.

if everyone would stop giving money to and feeding the beggers, they'd go somewhere else where the pickings are better.

They always find the softest touch.

May 25, 2006 8:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Daily News...(good for them not being afraid to report the truth)
Due to incomplete information provided by Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa's office, the Daily News incorrectly reported Monday the mayor's proposed travel budget of $200,000 for 2006-07 was 10 times higher than former Mayor James Hahn spent on travel during his last year. IN FACT, IT WAS SIX TIMES HIGHER.

May 25, 2006 8:15 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just because you have a law degree doesn't necessarily mean you can read or be smart for that matter. Weiss, Huizar and Rocky are perfect examples of that. What's idiot Rosendahl's excuse? He asked the dumbest questions yesterday that had been covered in previous meeting he attended. Sometimes I wonder where his brain is.

May 25, 2006 9:25 AM  

Blogger Archie Bunker said:

Well how convienent, since 2005 was an ELECTION year. What was the number in 2003 or 2004 a non election year, but one where he traveled quite a bit to Asia and DC. That would be a comparable number.

But still that is only $34,833 during an election year compared to $200,000 for a non-election year.

May 25, 2006 9:28 AM  

Blogger Archie Bunker said:


His brain is in his life-mate AV's ass because that is where that fudgepacker spends most of his time, up AV's ass.

May 25, 2006 9:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm all for the farmers keeping the land. If I had millions, I would give it to them so they could buy it. Too bad the celebrities are so poor they have to protest instead of buying the property for the farmers. Wait...

May 25, 2006 12:03 PM  

Blogger Archie Bunker said:

What's really pathetic is that for a $6.7 BILLION dollar budget, all they needed was $5 million dollars and this issue would be resolved, Case closed.

May 25, 2006 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why doesn't the city give the farmers vacant land in another part of the city such as a vacant lot in South Central? I don't get it. With all vacant lots in South Central, hell it kinda looks like Detroit in some places.

Or why won't the celebrities supporting the farmers buy some land for them to farm?

May 25, 2006 1:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is Antonio doing the lambada again today with Gov. Muscles?

May 25, 2006 2:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

wacko, you still suck!

May 25, 2006 3:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Perry did offer 3 other parcels of land the famers could have used. But they are being exploited by a group of radical assholes who have profited from the poor farmers, evicted long time families because they refused to do what they wanted and so much more.

READ LAWEEKLY.COM and search for the investigative story on the whole South LA Famers organizers by David Hernandez. I doubt anyone would be supporting them after you read the true story.

May 25, 2006 4:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

South LA Farmer story. What the organizers have done.
Evicted farmers, although they were never granted authority to do so by the agency that founded the farm, the Los Angeles Regional Food Bank
• Required farmers to attend City Council meetings and demonstrations, often by locking the farm gates during such events
• Intimidated farmers who complained by filing restraining orders against them and, in one instance, distributing anonymous fliers calling those farmers “sellouts”
• Collected unknown amounts of cash contributions and referred to their group as a nonprofit 501(c)3, which it is not.

May 25, 2006 4:58 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

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May 25, 2006 6:15 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

To anonymous at 8:12, who said those who voted against the appeal are lawyers, and therefore know it cannot be won:

Here's something you may not know: i) exactly four jurists have reviewed the case; ii) they split 2 vs. 2 on the issue; iii) two of the jurists who disagreed were U.S. District Court judges (one who originally heard the case, and one who was sitting by designation -- think of it as "temp-ing" on the Court of Appeal; and iv) two of the jurists who disagreed were Appellate Justices.

Also, this case is, I believe, the first time any court has invalidated a city law against loitering on the theory that the Eighth Amendment's proscription against cruel and unusual punishment prohibits a city from enforcing such a law unless that city simultaneously offers free housing (other than a bed in jail).

On the contrary, anti-loitering laws date back to the Norman Conquest, and were adopted by the very same people who adopted the Eighth Amendment. This arguably shows the lack of a conflict between the two.

So you may want to consider your assertion that they voted against appeal just because they are lawyers.

May 25, 2006 6:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ADLLA found guilty

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Frank Mateljan
May 25, 2006 (213) 978-8340

Militant Animal Rights Activists Convicted for
Protest Near Home of Animal Services Employee

Jury Finds Pamelyn Ferdin Guilty on Two Counts, Jerry Vlasak Guilty On
Single Charge Stemming from 2004 Incident; Sentencing Next Month

LOS ANGELES – Following an eight day trial, a Los Angeles jury today returned guilty
verdicts against militant animal rights activists Pamelyn Ferdin and Jerry Vlasak on
charges stemming from a targeted protest near the home of an employee of the Los
Angeles Department of Animal Services Officer, City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo

Ferdin, 48, and Vlasak, 49, were each convicted of one count of targeted demonstration.
Ferdin was also convicted of one count of trespassing. Sentencing is scheduled for June
22 in Division 54 of Los Angeles Superior Court.

“Free speech is a right, one of the most treasured rights this country has to offer. But, as
the verdict in this case shows, there are limits to the exercise of that right,” said
Delgadillo. “While we steadfastly defend the right of people to express themselves in a
peaceful, responsible way, if you break the law, you will be prosecuted.”

The charges were filed in the wake of a June 2004 nighttime protest by a number of
people outside the private residence of Commander David Diliberto, Director of Field
Operations for the Los Angeles City Department of Animal Services. The Municipal
Code states that a targeted demonstration may not take place within 100 feet of the
subject’s residence.

“The entire staff of the Animal Services Department is gratified with this conviction,”
said Ed Boks, the department’s general manager. “These people in fact stand in the way
of the progress they demand and which we are pursuing. We must be focused on the

Ferdin and Vlasak have been linked to the Animal Defense League – LA, an offshoot of
an organization described by the United States Justice Department as a domestic terrorist
organization. In December 2005, the City Attorney’s Office filed a 14-count criminal
complaint against the Animal Defense League – LA alleging it had participated in
criminal conspiracy to harass, intimidate and terrorize City employees.

The City Attorney’s Office continues to work closely with reputable animal services
agencies such as the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals –Los Angeles, to
investigate and prosecute cases of animal cruelty and abuse. In the past three months,
Delgadillo’s Animal Cruelty Unit has filed over 20 cases including charges for illegal
cockfighting, illegal dog breeding, and animal cruelty with over 12 convictions to date.

NEWS From the Office of the City Attorney

May 25, 2006 7:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

take that mayor daniel.

who the hell in this town doesn't know that ferdin and vlasak are true whack jobs. they don't come worse than them. they really are terrorists and they give animal rights activists a bad bad name. i'll never forget vlasak saying on prime time television that he thought humans who would euthanize dogs should be murdered.

i hope prison is involved. i hope the mayor's office thinks, wow they really were crazy.

May 26, 2006 12:13 AM  

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