Even More CD 14 Red MEAT
Seems as if the Jimenez camp is miffed at not being invited to a Neighborhood Council debate. I would think it would be good form to invite all the candidates. What are the rules on this?The following came over to us from Maria Garcia with the Jimenez for Council campaign:
Brady Westwater,President and all other Board of Directors of the City of Los Angeles Downtown of Los Angeles Neighborhood Council are in violation because D.O.N.E. governing rules and regulations of having Jose Huizar & Nick Pacheco both City Council Candidates for CD 14 to reserve a half hour time each to address the Neighborhood Council regarding their Candidacy for CD 14 without inviting the rest of the other Candidates giving them equal opportunity to address the Neighborhood Council!
Your Agenda is perfectly clear for the meeting on October 11, 2005 at 6:00 PM. being held at the DWP Building downtown. If the Downtown Neighborhood Council does not allow the other Candidates to speak on October 11, 2005 would be a violation. A formal complaint will be filed with D.O.N.E. and to the Ethics Commission regarding this violation.
Your next meeting that is scheduled would be after the Election of November 8th therefore you must set aside time on 10/11/05 for any other Candidate present and be recognized as well and be given an equal time! You moved Public Comments on your agenda to avoid the general public to address this issue to after Jose & Nicks presentation. City Attorney does not approve this special treatment of these two Candidates!
This is why our Candidate oppose hidden agendas and backdoor deals without do process! Neighborhood Councils is for the community not for special interest groups or individuals to abuse their powers!
Posted by Mayor Sam @ 10/11/2005 09:48:00 AM
41 Comments:
LAUSD... you know?
These organizations must invite all candidates. Lawsuit Election.
I'm waiting for one of the "majors" to do the respectable "RR" thing. You know "I paid for this microphone" - even if they haven't, and demand that all the other candidates be included in these debates.
Then again, they're both "Democrats" -- maybe that's asking too much.
Yes it is true that in a pure democracy, all candidates should speak. But we don't live in a pure democracy, what with a 20% average turnout?!
Although Jimenez seems to be a nice guy - it takes much more than lawn signs to win a campaign. Look at the city ethics campaign filings, only three candidates in CD 14 bothered to file. There is plenty of opportunity for side shows, just grab a speaker's card at the next council meeting.
Was anon 10:01 commenting on the semi-literate writing from the Jimenez campaign? Maria Garcia, if you wrote this pathetically bumbling statement, you should be ashamed and immediately enroll in a remedial writing class. This reflects on your candidate, who I hope will be kept out of any debate or forum I can attend.
What the Hell is the Jimenez camp gripping about??!! Juan Jimenez the canidate is the father of Robert Jimenez the President of the Boyle Heights Neighborhood Council. If his own son who is president is not inviting or even fighting for his dad to be included in the debate, that doesn't say much about the canidate. To top off this doozey Robert Jimenez son to the canidate isn't only the Prez of the Neighborhood Council he is also his pop's campaign manager. Doesn't say much for Robert as campaign manager either. The Jimenez Family loosers on two fronts!!
This is exciting. I love it. I will be there tonite wo watch the fireworks and take pics .
And of course open the meeting and yell about how wonderful and inclusinve the Neighborhood Council is. I am ashamed.
ANyway ,, most of the word has come to the knowledge of the other candidates by way of others who either participate on the board or who are stakeholders within the Downtown Los Angeles NEighborhood Boundaries.
One thing is for sure ,.
Brady Westwater will not change his mind on the subject of the other candidates speaking: His quote at an executive board meeting: an open meeting by the way was , that the other candidates were "not serious candidates." BY the mere fact that they did not raise a substantial amount of money.
I am sure these other not serious candidates will more than likely revcieve more than his 96 0r less votes he received when he ran for his seat on teh Downtown Los ANgeles NEighborhood Council.
I have invited , or tried to invite as many candidates to my forum Saturday October 15th at the James Woods COmmunity Center.
Come out tonite , we will have cake andd goodies while we watch the circus , who needs the movies or a play , drama tonight baby!!!!
I am posting the agendas for you entertainment after this post.
Neighborhood Councils are required by law to invite ALL candidates to each debate they conduct. The City Attorney issued an opinion letter to that effect.
I know this from experience because when I sued the "Alliance of Neighborhood Councils" to include me in their mayoral debate, their "defense" was that they aren't actually any Neighborhood Councils in the "alliance," and that instead it was essentially two guys from San Pedro using a bank as a mailing address.
Sent out September 27th on Newdwontown - note wherre public comments is in the agenda.
CITY OF LOS ANGELES
DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL OFFICERS
BRADY WESTWATER, PRESIDENT
KAI STANSBERRY, VICE-PRESIDENT
ED MARZEC VICE-PRESIDENT
ERIC RICHARDSON, TREASURER
RUSSELL BROWN , SECRETARY
CALIFORNIA DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL
305 E. 1ST STREET
LOS ANGELES, CA 90012
TELEPHONE: (213) 473-6451
MAIL STOP: 968-01
www.lacityneighborhoods.com
DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL
ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP AND BOARD MEETING AGENDA
Tuesday October
11th, 2005 – 6: 00 p.m.
John Ferraro DWP Building
DWP Cafeteria
Enter from parking garage
111 North Hope Street
Parking is free if you say you are attending DLANC Meeting
The public is requested to fill out a “Speaker Card” to address the DLANC
Board of Directors (Board) on any item of the agenda prior to the Committee
taking action on an item. Comments from the public on agenda items will be heard
only when the respective item is being considered. Comments from the public
on other matters not appearing on the agenda that is within the Board’s subject
matter jurisdiction will be heard during the Public Comment period. Public
comment is limited to 2 minutes per speaker, unless waived by the presiding
officer of the Board. As a covered entity under Title II of the Americans with
Disabilities Act, the City of Los Angeles does not discriminate on the basis of
disability and upon request, will provide reasonable accommodation to ensure
equal access to its programs, services, and activities. Sign language
interpreters, assistive listening devices, or other auxiliary aids and/or services
may be provided upon request. To ensure availability of services, please make
your request at least 3 business days (72 hours) prior to the meeting you wish
to attend by contacting Brady Westwater at 213-804-8396 or e-mail to
bradywestwater@gmail.com.
SI REQUIERE SERVICIOS DE TRADUCCION, FAVOR DE NOTIFICAR A LA OFICINA 3 dias
de trabajo (72 horas) ANTES DEL EVENTO. SI NECESITA ASISTENCIA CON ESTA
NOTIFICACION, POR FAVOR LLAME A NUESTRA OFICINA AL 323-224-2316.
1. Annual Meeting Reception at 6:00.
2. Call to order and roll call at 6:30.
3. Public comments – Comments from the public on non-agenda items within the
Committee’s subject matter jurisdiction. Public comments are limited to two
(2) minutes per speaker.
4. Approval of minutes from previous meetings.
5. Annual Membership Meeting announcements.
6. Presentation by Jose Huizar, candidate for City Council District 14 at
7:00 PM.
7. Presentation by Nick Pacheco, candidate for City Council District 14 at
7:30 PM.
8. Discussion and possible vote on adopting a Charter for a Congress of
Neighborhood Councils.
9. Board member comment - Comments from Board on matters within the Board’s
jurisdiction.
10. Old business
11. Future agenda items and other calendar events
12. Adjournment.
(Other items will be added later as a supplemental agenda)
Sent out october 7th after the special executive board meeting at which members from the public expressed that all candidates should be invited. Note where Public comments are in the agenda now
CITY OF LOS ANGELES
DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL OFFICERS
BRADY WESTWATER, PRESIDENT
KAI STANSBERRY, VICE-PRESIDENT
ED MARZEC VICE-PRESIDENT
ERIC RICHARDSON, TREASURER
RUSSELL BROWN , SECRETARY
CALIFORNIA DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL
305 E. 1ST STREET
LOS ANGELES, CA 90012
TELEPHONE: (213) 473-6451
MAIL STOP: 968-01
www.lacityneighborhoods.com
DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL
ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP AND BOARD MEETING SUPPLEMENTAL REVISED AGENDA
Tuesday October
11th, 2005 – 6: 00 p.m.
John Ferraro DWP Building
DWP Cafeteria
Enter from parking garage
111 North Hope Street
Parking is free if you say you are attending DLANC Meeting
The public is requested to fill out a “Speaker Card” to address the DLANC
Board of Directors (Board) on any item of the agenda prior to the Committee
taking action on an item. Comments from the public on agenda items will be heard
only when the respective item is being considered. Comments from the public
on other matters not appearing on the agenda that is within the Board’s subject
matter jurisdiction will be heard during the Public Comment period. Public
comment is limited to 2 minutes per speaker, unless waived by the presiding
officer of the Board. As a covered entity under Title II of the Americans with
Disabilities Act, the City of Los Angeles does not discriminate on the basis of
disability and upon request, will provide reasonable accommodation to ensure
equal access to its programs, services, and activities. Sign language
interpreters, assistive listening devices, or other auxiliary aids and/or services
may be provided upon request. To ensure availability of services, please make
your request at least 3 business days (72 hours) prior to the meeting you wish
to attend by contacting Brady Westwater at 213-804-8396 or e-mail to
bradywestwater@gmail.com.
SI REQUIERE SERVICIOS DE TRADUCCION, FAVOR DE NOTIFICAR A LA OFICINA 3 dias
de trabajo (72 horas) ANTES DEL EVENTO. SI NECESITA ASISTENCIA CON ESTA
NOTIFICACION, POR FAVOR LLAME A NUESTRA OFICINA AL 323-224-2316.
1. Annual Meeting Reception at 6:00.
2. Call to order at 6:30.
3. Welcome speech by Councilwoman Jan Perry.
4. Roll Call.
5. Annual Membership Meeting announcements.
6. Presentation by Jose Huizar, candidate for City Council District 14 at
7:00 PM.
7. Presentation by Nick Pacheco, candidate for City Council District 14 at
7:30 PM.
8. Approval of Prior Minutes.
9. Appointment of Alternates.
10. Swearing in of Alternates and Board Members.
11. Vote on Declaring Alameda East Business Seat Vacant.
12. President’s Report.
13. Discussion and possible vote on adopting a Charter for a Congress of
Neighborhood Councils.
14. Approximately 8:30 PM. Public comments – Comments from the public on
non-agenda items within the Committee’s subject matter jurisdiction. Public
comments are limited to two (2) minutes per speaker.
15. Discussion and Possible Vote on allowing Neighborhood Councils to submit
recommendations for action to the City Council AKA The Council File Motion.
16. Report on Budget Day and Discussion how DLANC will provide input to the
city. Also discussion on date for November Board Meeting as it falls on an
Election Day this year.
17. Consideration and approval by Board of streets to be repaired though
special $50,000 allocation.
18. Board member comment - Comments from Board on matters within the Board’s
jurisdiction.
19. Old business
20. Future agenda items and other calendar events
21. Adjournment.
Supplemental revised agenda with the statement that dlanc only invited JOse Huizar and Nick PAcheco
From: WWMalibu@aol.com
To: newdowntown@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 8:44 PM
Subject: [newdowntown] DLANC Annual Board Meeting and CD 14 Council Candidate Forum
At the annual membership board meeting of the Downtown Los Angeles
Neighborhood Council, each of the CD 14 candidates who approached us and asked to appear
before us were invited speak. Jose Huizar will be speaking at 7 PM and Nick
Pacheco will be speaking at 7:30. If any other candidates wish to speak,
there will be a period for public comment on any non-agenda item at approximately
8:30 PM.
CITY OF LOS ANGELES
DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL OFFICERS
BRADY WESTWATER, PRESIDENT
KAI STANSBERRY, VICE-PRESIDENT
ED MARZEC VICE-PRESIDENT
ERIC RICHARDSON, TREASURER
RUSSELL BROWN , SECRETARY
CALIFORNIA DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL
305 E. 1ST STREET
LOS ANGELES, CA 90012
TELEPHONE: (213) 473-6451
MAIL STOP: 968-01
www.lacityneighborhoods.com
DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL
ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP AND BOARD MEETING SUPPLEMENTAL REVISED AGENDA
Tuesday October
11th, 2005 – 6: 00 p.m.
John Ferraro DWP Building
DWP Cafeteria
Enter from parking garage
111 North Hope Street
Parking is free if you say you are attending DLANC Meeting
The public is requested to fill out a “Speaker Card” to address the DLANC
Board of Directors (Board) on any item of the agenda prior to the Committee
taking action on an item. Comments from the public on agenda items will be heard
only when the respective item is being considered. Comments from the public
on other matters not appearing on the agenda that is within the Board’s subject
matter jurisdiction will be heard during the Public Comment period. Public
comment is limited to 2 minutes per speaker, unless waived by the presiding
officer of the Board. As a covered entity under Title II of the Americans with
Disabilities Act, the City of Los Angeles does not discriminate on the basis of
disability and upon request, will provide reasonable accommodation to ensure
equal access to its programs, services, and activities. Sign language
interpreters, assistive listening devices, or other auxiliary aids and/or services
may be provided upon request. To ensure availability of services, please make
your request at least 3 business days (72 hours) prior to the meeting you wish
to attend by contacting Brady Westwater at 213-804-8396 or e-mail to
bradywestwater@gmail.com.
SI REQUIERE SERVICIOS DE TRADUCCION, FAVOR DE NOTIFICAR A LA OFICINA 3 dias
de trabajo (72 horas) ANTES DEL EVENTO. SI NECESITA ASISTENCIA CON ESTA
NOTIFICACION, POR FAVOR LLAME A NUESTRA OFICINA AL 323-224-2316.
1. Annual Meeting Reception at 6:00.
2. Call to order at 6:30.
3. Welcome speech by Councilwoman Jan Perry.
4. Roll Call.
5. Annual Membership Meeting announcements.
6. Presentation by Jose Huizar, candidate for City Council District 14 at
7:00 PM.
7. Presentation by Nick Pacheco, candidate for City Council District 14 at
7:30 PM.
8. Approval of Prior Minutes.
9. Appointment of Alternates.
10. Swearing in of Alternates and Board Members.
11. Vote on Declaring Alameda East Business Seat Vacant.
12. President’s Report.
13. Discussion and possible vote on adopting a Charter for a Congress of
Neighborhood Councils.
14. Approximately 8:30 PM. Public comments – Comments from the public on
non-agenda items within the Committee’s subject matter jurisdiction. Public
comments are limited to two (2) minutes per speaker.
15. Discussion and Possible Vote on allowing Neighborhood Councils to submit
recommendations for action to the City Council AKA The Council File Motion.
16. Report on Budget Day and Discussion how DLANC will provide input to the
city. Also discussion on date for November Board Meeting as it falls on an
Election Day this year.
17. Consideration and approval by Board of streets to be repaired though
special $50,000 allocation.
18. Board member comment - Comments from Board on matters within the Board’s
jurisdiction.
19. Old business
20. Future agenda items and other calendar events
21. Adjournment.
Brady Westwater is a joke. He's sort of a poor man's version of Kevin Roderick.
http://lacowboy.blogspot.com/
His real name is Ross Ernest Shockley. He lives off selling books out of a downtown apartment. Has the same hard on for Mike Davis that Mailander has for Roderick.
10:33 AM
Signs???? They are everywhere I go in Council 14. I saw Pachueco signs at every corner. I asked some people down the street who they will vote 4...they said Pachueco. I'm wondering if these signs are underestimated by Huizar & Co.
I think candidates shouldn't be invited to debates if they don't take seriously their legal obligation to file with ethics. Therefore tonight's forum/debate should be limited to Pacheco, Huizar and Heckman.
Do you want a piece of raw meat?
Here it is:
Why did LAUSD accept fake addresses for majority of the kids in Magnet School Program. The Magnet School seats can go to children who actually live in the LAUSD district (community). How many parents do you know, use a fake address to get the kid in an LAUSD Magnet. After school kids are picked up by their parents who drive Mercedes, SUV's, BMW's and are head out of the area, you see them head home, away from the Barrios. Sure, LAUSD Magnet schools are good enough for their preppy kids, but not good enough to live in! Some live in Covina, West Covina, Long Beach, Bell, Compton, South San Gabriel, Alhambra, and many others. Why are you letting this happen, or are we the citizens of the area to blame for not speaking out?
I know of 6 families who do this. Will I have to rat them out, I hope not, I want LAUSD to investigate and find out how many of our tax dollars are going to teaching kids that do not live in our districts.
Los Angeles city workers have abused this program, while living in middle class neighborhoods and taking spots away from neighborhood kids. USC employees have also abused this, one particular employee has 2 kids in LAUSD while living in a middle class Alhambra neighborhood, and why not send them to Alhambra? She says this is closer to her work, and the program is what she wants for her kids.
11:21
What the @$%&%*&# does Boyle Heights NC have to do with any of this?
Huh?
Solution,
Verify where addresses not only by utility bill.
Use address verification by payroll, phone address location, Cable bills (good one), and have them take a LIE Detectors test. Do surprise visits. That should work wonders.
1:16 Obviously you don't care about Education. That is a top priority in any election. Corruption at LAUSD levels, all levels is important to know.
Today's the Downtown Neighborhood Council, Robert Jimenez is the president of the Boyle Heights Neighborhood Council, that my understanding. At the Roosevelt debate Robert did the opening comments by gave the mike up to another moderator for the debate. I saw no favortism, didn't even know the connection (father and son) till today's blog....
LAUSD INVESTIGATE BACA FAMILY.
10:33 - I've never known a lawn sign to vote. Who cares?
I thought the whole point of neighborhood councils was to bring government closer to people, better educate them about the issues and provide and improve access to information.
If the boards members are now serving as gatekeepers in determining the legitimacy of candidates, God help us.
tbxJuan Jimenez is a joke and maybe that's why people in CD14 don't take him seriously. He's a radical from the old days, says he's been volunteering in the community although he and his wife are PAID and he doesn't have a clue.
As for his son Robert Jimenez, prez of Boyle Heights Council it is one of the best and largest citywide with 51 reps. It's because of Robert's leadership that they don't waste valuable time at meetings fighting like other NC's. It all stems from the top. Robert probably isn't getting involved because he chooses his battles wisely. This isn't a major one to fight. Daddy needs to stop whining and complaining like he always does and quick wasting people's time on his nonsense. He's been labeled a crybaby.
1:53 pm
Actually lawn signs are representation that the househould is in favor of that particular candidate. The household maybe comprised of 2-6 registered voters.
Neighborhood Councils should allow all candidates to speak but I don't believe they must.
I am having a similar situation in the valley, but in my case the NC is banning all candidates citing that to do otherwise would be "endorsing" a candidate.
Obviously that is hogwash. Neighborhood Councils should engage the electoral process full force and allow ALL FILED candidates to an equal platform.
To do less is to do nothing more than oreserve the status quo, which so many Neighborhood Councils abhor.
Remember, if you don't make yourself a political force, who will?
I now have 5 candidates committed to atrtending my forum here in Central City East.
WOW!
Power Outage Hits Downtown L.A.
LOS ANGELES (AP) A power outage has hit downtown Los Angeles government buildings, Chinatown and adjacent areas.
AND TO THINK CITY COUNCIL GAVE THOSE MORONS THAT BIG RAISE.
2:05 PM
Lawn sign don't vote, especially the ones that Huizar is placing on homes were the residents are not even registered to vote. Take a look at 8th Street, 3/4 of those Huizar signs are placed in homes were the residents aren't even citizens. I went knocking on these doors and they all had the same story, "the landlord want put it up, what can i do?"
My understanding is that Nick and Jose requested to go before the board and that none of the other candidates made the request promptly. Heckmann will also be there. As they're not on the agenda, they can address the Council board in public comments.
Heat is on Brady, though--I'll be curious to watch how he handles it all.
I have asked Brady to allow all candidates equal time. I believe IF other filed candidates show up, that equal time MUST be provided, even if that means cutting everyone down to 15 minutes.
This problem really was the fault of the candidate who should have asked for time early but nonetheless it is easy enough to remedy.
As for his ability to handle heat, Brady was in the trenches with me on several battles, he is fair and I am certain he can handle the heat.
OK Jimenez calls himself a volunteer and gets paid for it? Low life...
Thanks guys for speaking with BRady Westwater. The other candidates did show up and were given 15 minutes each. Although we violated the Brown act by modifying the agenda at the last minute, we did the right thing.
I am glad our neighborhood council abided by our history of inclusiveness.
Hello Mayor Sam,
How many hits a day do you receive?
dzarzilla,
Just so you know, the Brown Act is for "action items" only. Since no action can be taken on a pesentation by candidates, no violation took place.
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Q: What kind of leeway does the Act allow a body's members to bring up non-agendized matters?
Yep , you are right . We didn't violate the brown act.
A: On the one hand, members of the body may provide brief informational reports on their own personal activities, make announcements, and interact with public speakers and staff for informational or procedural purposes, including the addition of an item to a future agenda. On the other hand, they may not indulge in policy discussions or take substantive action of any kind on a non-agendized item without making certain findings by a specified vote.
The first situation is one of "emergency", within the narrow meaning discussed below, that would justify a meeting on one hour's notice to the media; here the body must find by a majority vote that there exists a condition of disruption to public facilities that "severely impairs" public health, safety or both.
The more conventional second situation -- but if properly observed, still quite rare -- is where the body is able to find, by a supermajority or unanimous vote, that immediate action is required by an exigency unknown to the agency at the time the agenda was posted. Only one case has addressed how pressing such urgency must be, but it illustrates that upon challenge, courts are free to conclude that a body's voted finding of the need for immediate action was contrary to fact and inadequate as a matter of law. The California Court of Appeal has concluded that a bona fide "urgent action" situation does not arise simply because a crowd at a city council clamors for the overturn of an unpopular planning commission ruling not included on the agenda, especially where the council knew in advance that the ruling was controversial and that time was running out to appeal it (Cohan v. City of Thousand Oaks, 30 Cal.App.4th 547, 556 (1994)).
Sing it Anon 11:05--
I would not vote for a candidate who allows staff to send out grammatically butchered correspondence.
Probably just a volunteer. Like John Edwards -- so deal with it, Parke.
Stop intimidating the campaign staff or volunteers. I don't know this person, but this is the kind of propaganda that liberal elites use to keep away the people from speaking out. Their way of controlling and keeping people that matter at bay.
Congratulations to Maria Garcia for speaking out. Don't listen to these morons who use grammar as a sword to shut you up. Instead, speak out some more!
It's a "Good Thing" to speak out, Martha... it's even better if people can understand what you're saying (grammar and spelling do help with that).
Worth a try?
hey 7am moron
It is the conservatives who tell people to "shut up" whenever they don't like it. Their montra is...
"On the eve of war this is not the time to question our president" Dick Cheney JANUARY before the war.
"In a time of war they are denigrating our military"
using patriotism to shut down oposition is the halmark of conservatives so shove your "liberal elite" crap.
Shut up moron.
Yours truly,
A Patriotic Democrat.
Coverage of the DLANC meeting here
http://www.martinirepublic.com/item/the-overnighter-18/
Robert Jimenez doesn't even know or understand Parliamentary Procedures and he has no clue of the Brown Act.
Looks like you don't either. What a shame!
He sucks at trying to act like a leader let alone pretending to be one...
What a JOKE!
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