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Sunday, June 12, 2005

Antonio Saves The Day... Again

So who do you call when you have two sides that can't seem to keep the peace at the table and hold the economic stability of the city at its hands? You call Antonio Villaraigosa. The person who has been credited by all involved in the MTA Strike as being the one who brought both the MTA Board and UTU to the table and negotiate a new contract that brought the city moving again has now done the same for the hotel industry in Los Angeles. Averting a lockout of 2,500 hotel employees by the Los Angeles Hotel Employer's Council by 5 minutes, a deal was reached between UNITE HERE Local 11 and the Council. When the dust settled, both sides agreed: this was accomplished because of Antonio Villaraigosa.

Knowing that this strike would be disasterous for the City of Los Angeles, he called both sides to his City Hall Thursday night and Friday night, had them in separate rooms in City Hall, and served as the middle man between the two. Working with both sides, an agreement was reached at 4:55 am Saturday morning, just as the 7 major hotels in the Los Angeles area were ready to lockout the workers. Those hotels are: Hyatt hotel on the Sunset Strip, the Westin Century Plaza, Sheraton Universal, Regent Beverly Wilshire, Westin Bonaventure, Millennium Biltmore and Wilshire Grand.

So with the summer tourism season ready to begin, and with millions of dollars at stake for the tourism industry here in Los Angeles, all parties can now rest assured that this city will be ready to play gracious host to our visitors. Thank you Antonio... once again.

61 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I was not a supporter of Antonio however, I do give him a lot of credit for getting the two sides to agree. You're right this strike would have been diastrous for LA.

I'm hoping he will be able to do the same with other issues when they arise as quickly.

June 12, 2005 2:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I wonder why Antonio wouldn't get involved in bringing together people in CD14?

Good luck to him as mayor, however.

June 12, 2005 3:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio was wonderful for CD 14; it is just the Pacheconiks who hate him for displacing their leader and returning their lives to mundane that hate him.

They went from being King of the Hill to nothing. Reduced to spreading lies and innuendo about Antonio and his sex life, and injuring innocent staffers who would not do their bidding.

The Pacheco Blogging Team, formerly employed by J. Hahn, is led by Eliseo, the man who could not get even one signature to file to recall Antonio.

Antonio is showing why he was elected; Hahn is busy watering his lawn in San Pedro while the man who is not yet Mayor has already displaced him and is leading this City.

Antonio is showing why it is that we have elected him, and is delivering the kind of energy we have a right to expect from our Mayor.

Good for you, Antonio!

June 12, 2005 3:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

He did get involved to bring the people of CD14 together, I'm just sure that you're one of the few people who would let politics and dislike for him get in the way of working together to improve our district.

When one gets 73% support in his own district and wins Mayor by 19%, you better know that an overwhelming majority of his district and this city support him and his continued efforts to bring this city together.

If this is him in action before he actually becomes our Mayor, I'm sure that Los Angeles is in good hands come July 1.

June 12, 2005 3:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio was good for our district. Before he was councilman, our area was in turmoil...what with the Phillipine Village nightmare, Walgreens and the general discord between groups. Pacheco did nothing but foment this discord. But over the past 2 years, people who were at each others throats have started working together again. Even TERA and the Eagle Rock Chamber have been working together! So I'd definitely say that Antonio has been good for our area and has been successful in bringing people together.

June 12, 2005 4:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Damn how you do suck up... even before I got to the bottom of that thread, I knew that was Parker, still not accounting for his "research" into the 80+ neighborhood watches in CD14.

Sucking up is not replacement for truth.

June 12, 2005 4:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

PLEASE, people, CD14 has never been in worse shape - not even under Art Snyder. Villaraigosa was a holy terror running through the district on his way to bigger and better things. Never gave a rats ass. Still doesn't.

The sooner the district is cleared out of his brain-dead, now leaderless staffers, the sooner repairs can begin, and there's a TON of repairs`needed,

June 12, 2005 4:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's be honest here. 50% of Villaraigosa's votes in CD14 were from people who wanted to get rid of him!

June 12, 2005 5:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Eliseo and the Big O are supporters of Huizar, I thought. You guys can't seem to get anything right.

June 12, 2005 5:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Huizar cannot fill AV shoes nor can Pacheco. Let's look wider and farther for a replacement. Jose did nothing for the kids in District 2 and Nick did, well .... nothing.

June 12, 2005 7:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Man, all of you Villaraigosa haters really have a bad case of the runs today. 50% wanted to get rid of him?! Last time I remember, you do that by ruining a political career, not by promoting them. Get that through your mind, and you might be able to begin to make knowledgeable comments.

June 12, 2005 7:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Boy, Sleazy Huizy Huizar's people must be on their computers tonight in full force!

They are trying to make this a race between Nick and Antonio.

But I have news for you, Sleazy Huizy LAUSD Huizar is on the ballot, not Antonio.

I should also mention that I know Antonio Villaraigosa, I've worked with Antonio Villaraigosa, and Huizar, you're no Antonio Villaraigosa. (paraphrasing Lloyd Bentsen for you morons)

At any rate, I ran into Pacheco the other day at an event, and he is such a class act. He actually said to me how proud he and his whole family are to have a Latino as a Mayor.

Nick, we want you back!!!

June 12, 2005 8:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh yeah, Nick is so proud to have a Latino Mayor - one who he didn't donate money to (I think he gave Hahn $500), attacked Villaraigosa on Yahoo listserves to get his name out, and even had the nerve, THE NERVE, to go to Villaraigosa's election night celebration! I'm sure that if he did vote for Villaraigosa, it was only so that he can run for the seat.

June 12, 2005 8:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Remember you heard it here first: AV has endorsed Huizar. The issue now is when this becomes available for public consumption.

June 12, 2005 8:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If by here you mean the Mayor Sam blog, I'm sure that we have. If you mean your posting, than you're just wrong. But I'm sure that everybody knows where Villaraigosa will go after the speech that he gave at his volunteer party today. He pretty much was an inch short of endorsing Huizar when he introduced Huizar to the crowd. I'm wondering what Nick Pacheco and Arturo Chavez are thinking right now.

June 12, 2005 8:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

do you really care what they are thinking?

June 12, 2005 10:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Federiqkoe Dibritto also supported Villaraigosa, and will be campaigning for Huizar, as well (see previous blog item).

June 12, 2005 11:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7:31 anon. Just shows how simple minded you are. If you had any idea about what really goes on in CD14 you would have known that many people voted for Villaraigosa to get him out of the district.

June 13, 2005 12:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Were the folks who voted for Antonio "to get him out of the district" aware that CD 14 is still in the City of Los Angeles?

Were they the same folks that signed the Petition to Recall Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa? (Not one single signature was ever filed, despite lame, unsupported claims that thousands signed the petition).

Or, was it just the Pacheco (formerly Hahn)Blogging Team?

C'mon guys, none of us believe the tripe you post here; get on with your sad lives of desperation.

Better yet, get a life!

June 13, 2005 2:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I didn't support Antonio because of his city council record and his absenteeism in CD14 for 2 yrs. Why can't the ADV lovers accept the fact that people who post anti-ADV stuff are NOT HAHN PEOPLE OR PACHECO. They are many registered voters in LA who didn't agree with Antonio's agenda.

Having said that I think its time for everyone Antonio Lovers and Anti-ADV haters to move on and support Antonio. He's our new mayor and we need to try and work with him. It won't do any good fighting and complaining. You need to swallow your pride and move on. I certainly have.

June 13, 2005 7:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Now, that is the right attitude. We are all in this together, and LA will sink or swim for all of us.

A super majority of CD 14 voted for Antonio, but we all need to pull together to turn around the jobs and the eliminate the boondoggles.

The bad stuff that Hahn folks did for themselves cost us all money and with that money, we can improve things for all of us with traffic, potholes, parks, etc.

But without activity in our city, without making it business friendly so we can attract more businesses and create new and better jobs, we will keep sinking.

So, when you see corruption, report it, because you and all of us are paying for it in the end.

Antonio is doing his part to re-invigorate our City. All should support his efforts.

June 13, 2005 7:51 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

I'm glad to see for the most part that the Pacheco Blogging Team and Hahn Cutter and Pasters are gone. I'm all for folks who want to criticize MEAV doing so here if they wish, its just a lot nicer to have them doing it without all that noise we used to have.

June 13, 2005 8:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Chief Barkan, your headline should read:

"Tony the Liar Takes Credit... Again"

What day did he save? The union got the same contract that was offered by the hotels two weeks ago. His former girlfriend, Maria Elena Durazo called Tony in because the Hotel Council called her bluff. When Durazo ordered the strike on the Hyatt, the Hotel Council responded by threatening a lock out of employees at six other hotels. Do you remember the supermarket strike - same thing happened then. Durazo would have lost member support when these low income wage earners would have crossed her own picket line to keep food on the table. All it turned out to be was just another press event for Tony. A walk out was called by labor and they ended up with the same two week old contract offered by the employer - who really won here?

If Tony were to save the day, let's see him broker a labor contract with the Otani.

June 13, 2005 8:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon 8:30am. Please don't ask Villaraigosa supporters to think. They act like clones of Bush supporters - believe everything their leader says and find one (perceived) political adversary to constantly critize. Truth means nothing to the Bush/Villaraigosa groupies.

June 13, 2005 8:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:47 Anon

What a sad day we live in:

Tony the Liar as Mayor

Schwarzeneggar the Groper as Governor

and

Bush the Idiot as President

Gone are the days of honorable role models. Is it any wonder voter apathy has become a pandemic in this country. I wonder what the combined IQ would be for these three morons. When did elections to these esteemed offices become a popoularity contest? It's like being in high school all over again.

June 13, 2005 8:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To: Anti Antonio Haters.

From: The Big OOOOOOOOOOOO.

Antonio will be Mayor July 1, 2005.

Jose Huizar will become the next Council memnber of district 14th.

Thats right and Big OOOOOOOO will be dancing in the street.

So, to all the jealous haters please accept the obvious:

Antonio and Huizar are the new Awesome Twosome of the EASTSIDE POLITICS.

June 13, 2005 10:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Big O, try reading a newspaper and you will see the huge dropout rates at LA schools, you will read about the violence at LA schools, you will read about schools being built on contaminated sites. And your new wonder boy of Eastside politics, Jose Huizar, presides over this ongoing scandal.

Big O, do us all a favor and take a well deserved rest from all that Villaraigosa bashing you did for the Hahn campaign.

June 13, 2005 10:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I agree with the last poster. If Jose had not been President he could claim some ignorance with respect to the issues just listed. However, as President, he should not have let these things happen on his watch.

June 13, 2005 10:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Just flapping in the wind Big O. Where is your integrity? You've never backed a winner and you always kiss the ass of the guy that beat you. You did this when Pacheco beat Griego in '99 and you are doing it again this year. How do you support that massive head of yours with no backbone. Have you sopken to Huizar lately? They don't want you on thier team - your the kiss of death for any eastside political campaign. Is it any wonder people write you off as a joke?

June 13, 2005 10:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

All right! The Big Zero is back in the Sam Yorty blogosphere. Did you know that he only has one testicle and was once charged with bestiality? He woould have been convicted but the jury felt that his manhood qualified more as a third nipple than a penis.

June 13, 2005 11:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Big O- WE DO NOT WANT YOUR LOSER ASS ON JOSE'S CAMPAIGN!!Can we be more clear then that? You are not TRUSTED! I was with Villaraigosa, we won YEAH!! However, for you to just kiss ass now act like if your guy Hahn was nothing speaks volums about who you are. If you were loyal to your guy at least we could respect you for that even if you wern't us winners to begin with. No one likes or TRUSTS a guy who blows with yhe wind!! P.S. i heard the Pacheco camp does NOT want you either!!

June 13, 2005 11:31 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If I have a problem in CD 14, do I call Jennie Carreon Lacey or her boyfriend?

June 13, 2005 12:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Rolando Cuevas will end up being that kid left on the sidelines when the baseball teams pick their players. Why is that you ask? Because he has dedicated the last few years of his life to running around in a manner that alienates himself from others.

Do you think that Jose is going to want you around, knowing perfectly well that those who are from Antonio's base will be disgusted with the sight of you next to him, after all the shit you pulled in 2001 and in this last race?

Think about it long and hard. I'm sure that you can ask Jose yourself soon enough. You have alot of bridge building and soul searching to do.

June 13, 2005 12:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:06: What day did he save? The union got the same contract that was offered by the hotels two weeks ago.

That's just not true. The crucial difference between the contract offer two weeks ago and the contract agreed to on Saturday is the '06 end date (which synchs up with most other hotel union contract endings around the U.S... ensuring that the workers have decent collective bargaining leverage in the future).

This '06 end date was a provision the Employers' Council steadfastly refused, for *years*... until this Saturday.

Why did the hotels finally budge on this? Was is 'cause of AV? Was it 'cause of the walkout on Thursday? Was it 'cause the EC finally decided it wasn't worth it? Was it something else entirely? I truthfully don't know.

But to claim (as you do) that the contract the union just agreed to is identical to the contract offered weeks ago is profoundly ignorant.

Patrick Meighan
LA Green Party

June 13, 2005 1:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Big O is kissing ass with AV and Huizy because he wants endorsement for the Board seat if Jose wins CD14. think again, Big O. Antonio is not going to forget all the shit you talked about him during the mayor's race.

June 13, 2005 1:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Big O is kissing ass with AV and Huizy because he wants endorsement for the Board seat if Jose wins CD14. think again, Big O. Antonio is not going to forget all the shit you talked about him during the mayor's race.

June 13, 2005 1:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

so, who is likely to suceed Jose on the Board? Yes, I know it's premature, but I could not help myself.

June 13, 2005 2:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don't start griping already about the candidates for CD14. What you should do instead is state what you would like them to do for your district. I hope the campaign for CD14 doesn't become another negative, dirty laundry campaign.

Voters are tired of the crap. Talk about issues, solutions, support. That's the only way things will get done for the people.

June 13, 2005 3:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio has already done more in a couple of weeks as Mayor-elect than Jimmy did in four years.

June 13, 2005 8:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To: All The Big OOOOOOOOOOOO haters.

First and foremost I never have kissed Nicks ass period.

Nick call me personally for my support.
I said to Nick I wish him the best of luck, and I would be supporting Huizar.

Second and foremost their different between being a kiss ass, and a Good loser.

Third and foremost The Great Mayor Hahn will alway be my friend!

Finally, to my fans always remember this famous saying

"There No Permanent Enemies in Politic just Permanentt Interest."

June 13, 2005 11:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, now it's certain that Pacheco wins. The Big O is supporting Huizar.

June 14, 2005 1:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Patrick Meighan
LA Green Party

Profoundly ignorant? Is it profoundly ignorant to seek a long term multi-year contract instead of a short term monthly contract? These low wage Latino workers need stability, they don't need to be pawns of big white labors' desire to take on corporate America. Given the state of Labor today, it is too much of a risk, you take the best deal for your workers now.

Profoundly ignorant? Is it profoundly ignorant to understand that the last time Local 11's contracts were in synch with most other hotels across the U.S. their "elected" President, Scotty O'Brian was selling out the mostly Latino worker's best interests to the highest hotel and restuarant bidder. Once Local 11 went predominantly Latino from predominantly Black and White, salaries, benefits and job security took a steep dive, to an almost 20 year low - was this a coincidence?

Profoundly ignorant? Is it profoundly ignorant to understand that the UFCW members in Northern California got a much superior contract than UFCW members in Southern California. They didn't need national leverage, just strong local control. Do you think they would give up their contract to wait for their Southern California brothers? And now UFCW is threatening to pull out of the AFL/CIO, so much for national unity.

Profoundly ignorant? The only profoundly ignorant thought on this thread is your insistant belief that these poor little Mexicans need a big white hero like yourself to lead them into battle.

Profoundly ignorant? And this from a self proclaimed member of the Green Party, the primary reason we have Bush and his aftermath as President.

I have family members working some of these hotels. I personally know they cannot sustain a long strike for the sake of national unity. Who will pay their bills and put food on the table, Ralph Nader?

Before you make "profound" across the board statements in the future, put some profound thought behind them!

June 14, 2005 5:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Big O:

Please check your grammar before posting. Apparently you received a substandard education. I hope you didn't attend a school within the LAUSD.

June 14, 2005 10:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If Big O was attending a LAUSD school under its present leadership, this could be his life:

1) Too scared to attend school for fear of life threatening violence.

2) He would be one of the many Latino dropouts

3) He would be breathing in fumes from contaminated soil under his classroom

4) He wouldn't be able to do any homework for lack of paper and pencils - unless his teacher paid for them out of their own pocket.

5) A school built for 1500 pupils would be overcrowded and serving twice as many

6) School bathrooms would be filthy and and in a bad state of repair (while some LAUSD board members spent thousands and thousands of dollars on custom made bathrooms for themselves).

This would be Big O's life in a LAUSD school today. And who is Big O supporting? Jose Huizar, the current president of the LAUSD!

June 14, 2005 11:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Big O didn't attend a public school. But he attended something very similar, Salesian High School. The school on Soto Street and Whittier that suffers from low enrollment and has lost it's accreditation several times. It's usually a school reserved for Catholic boys kicked out of other Catholic schools. It's a wonder Tony the Liar didn't end up here - although he did end up at Roosevelt High, the other high school in Boyle Heights that is currently under state stewardship. Salesian, by the way, is also the alma mater of Jose Huizar. Is it any wonder why he turns a blind eye to the plight of our current public school students.

But Big O did graduate from UCSB, after attending community college at ELAC for five or so years. So he does know a little about grammar. This means that his sloppy grammar can be chalked up to laziness - just like you can blame his laziness for his weight problems.

June 14, 2005 11:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon 11:24 or Tokosfky

I do agree with some of your points: A.) Big O is a loser.
B.) Our school bathrooms are in horrible shape
C.) There is way too much violence in schools (from both the students and the wannabe LAPD force we have which uses prison terms like "lockdown" and has not developed a comprehensive approach to the current endemic violence).

But, when do we start holding parents accountable??? When do we force parents to choose between a six-pack and a ream of paper and a pencil? I know you can buy ten notebooks for $.99 at Target at the beginning of the year.

Our schools are severally over populated and our teachers are underpaid, but we have to stop blaming the system for not stepping up when in fact we don't or haven't stepped up.

Case in point, driving down S. Pasadena is a billboard which boldly states, "A public education is NOT free" and has a thermometer to measure YTD contributions. If the more well-to-do areas get it, when are we in LAUSD going to realize this and start putting-up our share? Since Prop 13 passed we have let the state run things - well you know what - they suck! The fact that we have another actor (whose biggest role was as a robotic assassin) running things only further highlights my point.

Let’s discuss split roll, teacher salaries and performance criteria, and PARENTAL accountability. “You have to start with the man in the mirror” – sorry I couldn’t resist.

-Gov. Pico

PS Huizar didn't have a bathroom built in his office. He uses the one in the hallway. He was critized for moving in to a bigger office which had been vacated by the general counsel and had remained empty for over 6 months. David, let's stick to the thread. We can discuss your lack of leadership for the past TEN years on the next one - since you too are up for election.

June 14, 2005 1:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To the previous poster:

Huizar didn't have a bathroom built in his office but the other boardmembers did. Since he approved the contract that allowed those bathrooms to be built, he's just as guilty of waste as David and the others.

June 14, 2005 2:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:38

When did Big O attend UCSB, what years? Was he attending UCSB when they had that hunger strike for a professor who was terminated? Does anyone have more information?

June 14, 2005 2:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You cannot compare or dare to compare Huizar to Tokosfky. I had a problem, I called my district representative, Huizar, resulted in no progress. I called Tokosfky
and his office handled the situation effectively and professionally. I do believe Huizar is never home to take care of business.

June 14, 2005 2:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If Huizar has so much faith in LAUSD,why not resign and give the post to someone that knows what they are doing. It is obvious he has not done his job. How does he expect for me to vote for him for CD 14?

June 14, 2005 2:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why is the "Big O" a loser?

June 14, 2005 3:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:44, He attended UCSB in the mid 90's.

June 14, 2005 3:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Was big O in Mecha in the 90's at UCSB. Is he a marxist?

Any New York connections?

June 14, 2005 3:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Marxism is big at UCSB and so are it's Mecha alumni towards this area of study.

June 14, 2005 3:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I thought he was serving time in the 90s. You're telling me he was in school? Maybe that is where he received is political training ... at a stoner college.

Has he always had hair like Yoda?

June 14, 2005 3:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You guys sure don't know your Chicano history at UC schools. UCSB does not have a MEChA, they have what's called a Congreso. In the early 70's there was a huge split between MEChA, which was run then by Costelo de la Rocha, the poverty pimp who runs Alta Med and a big Tony the Liar supporter and some progressive, community oriented students led by Chicano legend Arnulfo Casillas (the main Chicano/Latino Cultural center in Santa Barbara is named in his honor). The progressive Chicanos won out and MEChA at UCSB ceased to exist. To this day, UCSB cannot vote at MEChA statewide conferences, but there presence is always respected. This split occurred during the time of the Plan de Santa Barbara and the burning of the Bank of America in that city.

Regarding the Big O, he was trying his best to keep from flunking out at UCSB and he was considered a joke by Congreso members back then, very much the same way he is still considered a joke. And no, the Big O, obviously wasn't part of any hunger strike.

June 14, 2005 5:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Congreso At UCSB are bunch of losers. Big O was to sexy for that fuck-up organization.

June 14, 2005 8:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I hear Congreso @ UCSB during the 90's was loaded with gay Mexican/Chicano.

June 14, 2005 8:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

UCSB Congreso worthless leadership during the 90's could save Rudy Acuna job.

Congreso @ UCSB is the biggest joke among the student body organizations.

June 14, 2005 8:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:37 & 8:42 ANON,

Judging from the grammar, that's the Big O posting again.

Still pissed because El Congreso didn't let you play any reindeer games?

June 15, 2005 7:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I agree with the previous anon. The bad grammer gives him away.

Here's a leap of imagination: imagine the Big Zero in leopard print underwear dancing to Right Said Fred's "I'm too sexy." Or maybe he could do the Antonio Banderas SNL skill ... "No, please, ... it's too sexy" as he unbuttons his Zorro-like shirt.

That would be funny to see ... kind of like John Candy mud-wrestling in Stripes.

June 15, 2005 8:58 AM  

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