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Monday, May 23, 2005

Long Lost Brother

One moment after Antonio Villaraigosa was elected to the Mayor's office Nick Pacheco goes and proclaims his need to be the next councilman of the 14th district.

Fact: Can someone please name me another councilman who was beaten after his first term? Nick Pacheco.

Fact: In his second run for elected office he garners a paltry 15.01% of the vote.

Fact: He endorsed Jim Hahn in 2001.

Fact: Jim Hahn is gone.

Fact: Nick Pacheco was a Hahn supporter in 2005 -- source ethics website.

A man who loses, then tries again and loses, then supports another loser -- is by all accounts a LOSER.

But wait there's more...

Ricardo Torres III -- another loser -- Pacheco who went to law school with Ricardo they are still good friends to this day.

Earlier this year, he was suspended for 30 days and placed on three years' probation for misusing a client trust account. According to State Bar records, Torres used the account to pay personal or business expenses, deposited nonclient funds into it and failed to cooperate with State Bar investigators.
Over 23 months, the bar said, he bounced 23 checks on the account, committing "acts of moral turpitude, dishonesty, or corruption in willful violation of Business and Professions Code, section 6106." Daily Journal 2002


The divisive politics of the eastside are over -- we need a fresh start.

Jose Huizar for City Council!

128 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Chief Faker, you are hereby suspended for 30 years from political blogging for lying about having proof (and posting it before May 17), re: 80 neighborhood watches in CD14.

Add 10 more years for saying Pacheco and Torres are "still friends" or produce proof (Pacheco says they are not -- that the 2003 "gringo advisors" mailers severed their relationship).

Lying causes division, broken promises cause division, grandstanding causes divisions, pitting community groups against each other causes division, "punking" another Latino politician for spite when you don't need the job and don't intend to do it causes divisions, blaming the last guy in the job for your own failure to produce causes division, sliming a competitor with false disproven charges causes division. That's ADV's legacy in CD14.

May 23, 2005 6:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Watches? We don't need no stinkin' WATCHES! We had clean-ups.

May 23, 2005 6:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ADV and Chief Faker must be "long lost" hermanas, since they both lie about his "watches."

May 23, 2005 6:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If by "fresh start" you mean being a doofus enough to "lose" a critical high school site like Taylor Yard (instead of building one on a toxic waste site like Belmont), then perhaps "Sleazy Huizy" is a "fresh start" in that sense.

May 23, 2005 6:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sleazy Huizy.

I like that Anonymous. Please don't trademark it.

May 23, 2005 6:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Does Parke Skeleton pay you by the thread, Chief Parker, or by the word. He's running Huizar's race supposedly. But if you caught Jose's misfit performance at City council last week you know there's not enough money to dress up this bumbler and get them to the dance.

He got rattled talking to Garcetti, for crying out loud! What happens when the media gets to him and asks about the only available high school space in his district being bought out by one of ADV's good "friends" -- when ADV's supporting Jose?

That won't be a late hit, it'll come early on and cripple him from day 1. Taylor Yard is like the holy grail to Northeast people, they fought to keep that out of development for like 4-5 years, going back to Mike Hernandez' time, with 5-6 communities, hundreds of activists and dozens of civic groups involved.

BAD, bad start. Huizar better go sleep that on off and try again in '07 after that's fixed.

May 23, 2005 6:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Huizar will be lucky to keep the part time job he's got when all the pieces come into focus for people.

May 23, 2005 6:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

These are, of course, trial ballons Huizar's people are putting out to see it he can take the hits (and what those hits will be).

But the good stuff is still to come. Taylor Yard and 50 percent LAUSD drop out rates are not the worst.

Huizar's been pulling a "Hahn" in recent months - after running his first term without so much as a fresh idea, he's now (suddenly) just "popping" new solutions out left and right -- for tracking dropouts, for new types of schools, you name it.

Same question ADV asked Hahn. "Why didn't you start coming up with new ideas during your FIRST term??"

Too late to look like the "out-of-box" thinker now, Jose. Those board sessions are televised, are you a mor BORING than Hahn there.

May 23, 2005 6:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

SLO Galindo called Chief Faker. He wants you to stop calling and asking if there are any new neighborhood watches. They're going to trace you calls from now on, and arrest you for impersonating a polic chief.

May 23, 2005 6:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ho many times you going to endorse the same guy? Until traffic picks up?

May 23, 2005 6:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Did anyone mention that ADV is the mayor elect.

He won, he's lost, get over him!

May 23, 2005 6:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How immature!! Once again throwing the attacks on a councilman who did more for CD14 then anyone and continued to help residents because Antonio was too busy campaigning.

Jose Huizar should grow up first. He's still in diapers and needs about 10 yrs to play with the big boys. Ask Jose why he campaigned sooooo hard for Pacheco against ADV in 2003? Jose stop making those calls to people in CD14 trying to get support. They are on board with Pacheco. They know you were in cahoots with Richard Muerlo and ADV to sell the school land.

May 23, 2005 6:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Doing Antonio's dirty work again. Could it be that Jose is already so tarnished that he needs all the help he can get? Why would this website sink to such a bottomless pit to help Jose? Face the fact Huizar doesn't have a chance in hell against Pacheco. People are welcoming Pacheco with open arms after realizing what a waste their vote on Antonio was. Jose allowed the State to take over Roosevelt High and that has a lot of alumni who live in CD14 really really really pissed off.

May 23, 2005 6:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I say we get the fine citizens of Miami to pay this freight, since they wanted to "clean house" at L.A. City Hall so much. How about it Fla. "hisssspanics" -- start popping for this ticket:

ITEM NO. (55)
05-1034
RESOLUTION (PADILLA - MISCIKOWSKI) relative to authorizing acceptance of gifts for the purpose
of financing the Mayor-elect’s transition activities.
Recommendations for Council action, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MAYOR:
1. RESOLVE to AUTHORIZE and DIRECT the City of Los Angeles to solicit and accept gifts made to
the City for purposes of financing the Mayor-elect’s transition activities for any expenses incurred
prior to August 30, 2005 and to deposit any such cash gifts in a public trust fund hereby established
for such transition purposes in a cumulative amount not to exceed $200,000 and with no gift from
any one source to exceed $10,000.
2. RESOLVE to ACCEPT any gifts made by the donors to the City for such purposes on behalf of the
City.
3. RESOLVE to AUTHORIZE the Mayor-elect’s transition organization to make expenditures out of
the Fund for the sole purpose of paying the costs and expenses reasonably associated with Mayorelect
Villaraigosa’s transition activities, such as paying for staff, acquiring equipment and supplies
and funding the reasonable costs of inauguration events, and AUTHORIZE the Controller to deposit
any unspent cash gifts on hand after payment of all the costs and expenses associated with Mayorelect
Villaraigosa’s transition activities into the City’s General Fund.
4. RESOLVE to REQUEST the Controller to process any requests for disbursements submitted to the
Controller by a designated representative of Mayor-elect Villaraigosa’s transition organization within
24 hours of receipt of such request for disbursement.
5. RESOLVE to AUTHORIZE and REQUEST the City Attorney to prepare any necessary agreements,
documents or other instruments to memorialize and implement the foregoing; AUTHORIZE and
DIRECT the President of the City Council to execute any such agreements, documents or other
instruments on behalf of the City, subject to the approval of the City Attorney as to form and legality;
and REQUEST and AUTHORIZE the Department of General Services to make available suitable
office space on a temporary basis for the Mayor-elect’s transition activities.

May 23, 2005 6:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Villaraigosa made history in a big way Tuesday, sweeping into office in a landslide that put an emphatic punctuation mark on the hard-fought Los Angeles mayor's race.

But there is a less celebrated footnote to the groundbreaking contest: the incoming head of the nation's second-most populous city was chosen by just a fraction of its registered voters.

Villaraigosa's meager share of the city's registered voters, about 18%.....

May 23, 2005 7:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

HEY, as long as you're going to keep planting bug hairy wet ones where the sun don't shine in the form of endorsements for ADV's cronies, how about Richard Muerlo for Deputy Mayor over land use?

Or, school board?

May 23, 2005 7:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Or BIG hairy wet ones....

May 23, 2005 7:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I heard Ricardo and Nick aren't even talking anymore. Ricardo has a tough time holding on to friends and those that remain in contact usually do so because of Judge Ricardo Torres, Torres III's father. Even so, Ricardo has never been an operative in any of Nick's campaigns, he's never been part of Nick's "kitchen cabinet", never held any staff position with Nick and is detested by the vast majority of Nick's friends.

Ricardo took it upon himself to mail those ill fated Antonio pieces in 2002 because he wanted to be a player. For Nick, with friends like Ricardo, who needs enemies. Furthermore, Ricardo sent out these pieces because he got into an argument with Antonio before he annouced in November of 2002 to run against Nick - this was confirmed by Parke Skelton. It was personal, not politcal. So slam away, Chief Parker, Ricardo is the epitome of an arrogant, spoiled brat, egotistical lawyer. But guess what, he's not the one running for office. As a lawyer, I'm sure Huizar has got his share of scumbag lawyer friends - in fact, I believe Ricardo is one of them. They would meet regularly when Huizar was working for the city attorney in Alhambra, where Ricardo's practice was located.

And if you're looking to slam Ricardo, is this the best you can come up with - this is just the tip of the iceberg. There's a whole lot more out there on Ricardo, stuff that will even put Tony to shame. But you won't put it out, you want to know why? Because in December of 2002, after those infamous Torres mailer went out, do you want to know who made contact with Ricardo, June from the Venice Room. So keep pushing, Ricardo and Tony deserve each other along with their mutual slimey fate.

May 23, 2005 7:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pacheco is an idiot and surely has a serious bdsm thing because he must love public humiliation. The 1st incumbent in LA history ever to be spanked in a primary? He ran for DA and only got 15 points? Jesus...this guy should just put on the leather and ask constituents to randomly whip him up in Eagle Rock where he lives. It might make great theater and get more people to that crappy flea market they call a "farmers market".

May 23, 2005 8:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Huizar is a boy!

May 23, 2005 8:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Huizar already beat himself.

It's spelled T-A-Y-L-O-R Y-A-R-D. Holy ground in Northeast L.A. Better figure out some way to pin THAT on Pacheco.

Some way..........

(Think Parke, think!).

Huizar endorsed Pacheco OVER Villaraigosa in 2003.

THERE'S your connection, it's all Nick's fault for not winning last time! Damn him!

May 23, 2005 8:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That RESOLUTION is bullshit! Antonio raised $2 million more than Hahn so why doesn't he spend that money? This is opening the door for corruption again. What is Antonio going to do for the people who give the gifts$$$$$?

I want to see how these councilmember morons vote and how the media spins this.

May 23, 2005 8:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pacheco won't be able to raise any money. He's a 2 time loser. He got all the lobbyists and donors to give to him in 2003 and not to Villaraigosa, and he still got his a$$ handed to him on a platter. His feeble attempt at DA was so embarassing that no one will come forward. Aside from his hardcore handful that spend their life blogging here, Pacheco doesn't stand a chance. Anyone running for the first time can say that they are running a "grassroots campaign" (code for: I ain't got no money 'cuz nobody thinks I can win) but when you are a known commodity and still can't raise money....well...uh...its pretty simple to figure that one out.

May 23, 2005 8:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey 8:46 anon...check out yo history before actin' all morally indignant and shit. Riordian and Hahn both did the same thing with the transition funding. Its common practice. Don't fall prey to these people who want to get a rise out of people like yourself who haven't done a bit of research before responding to a piece of crap thread on a blog...stay logical grasshopper and all that other shit my sensei used to say

May 23, 2005 8:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Huizar endorsed Hahn for Mayor 2001 over Villaraigosa.

Huizar endorsed Pacheco for CD 14th over Villaraigosa.

Huizar endorsed Pedro Carillo "Pacheco Buddy" against "Villaraigosa Buddy" Fabian Nunez our current Speaker.

Huizar endored Pacheco over Griego "Villaraigosa Buddy" for CD 14th.

Do you see? What I see? Yes I do!

May 23, 2005 8:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pacheco is whaleshit and Ricardo Torres III is five fathoms lower than whaleshit.

No one is nice to him because of his BS father, loser Ricardo Torres the hotheaded Judge (ret.)

That is because no one is nice to Ricardo III for any reason. There is no reason strong enough.

The man tried to be a big man and showed how small he really is instead. Yet, Pacheco befriends him. Why?

Birds of a feather...

May 23, 2005 9:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Lev you've been dead too long -- wrong dates, wrong acronyms, no understanding of checks and balances and the shifts of power. From day 1 Tony V. checks in as mayor, City Council puppies start lining up to show him who's boss... push, test, and show their mettle. Especially those who did endorse Hahn and have nothing to lose now (they BEEN on Council, they KNOW ADV is vindictive). The wrestling match begins July 2, and the longer he's in office, the more CMs try to show they're not his lapdogs.

Did Dems in D.C. go rushing up to GW to make nice-nice when they got whipped in all three levels of government? Hell, no - OBSTRUCTION is how you make your name now, now being a couch poodle for Mr. "I'm out of here any day now for the next big position" himself.

Try out for "Night of the Living Dead," LB. Leave politics to people who still breath.

CD 14 gets one whiff of Sleazy Huizy's major screw-up at Taylor Yard - the "jewel" in the local activists' crown, he's lucky to break out of single digits.

Now if Jose sits out the transition and FIXES that little debacle in the next two years, maybe he'd have a shot as the full-term in '07 (city elections are odd years, bubba, remember), maybe.

No way, for now, especially in a three-way with Cedillo in the fray. Jose and Gill split any Anti-Pacheco's out there and take each other out of the way... (and just in case no one broke it to you -- all the pro-Antonio's are not Anti-Pacheco... not even close.

Plus, Huizar comes off like a high school kid who had to attend too crowded a school to learn to FULLY PRONOUNCE WORDS. Just like ALL the 13 year olds coming up from massively overcrowded middle schools whose parents were SO HAPPY to hear that a new modern H.S. was going in in a couple years. (oops)

Nope Sleazy Huizy's immediate political fortunes were sold to Antonio's highest bidder.

May 23, 2005 10:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

doesn't matter who's running, Pachuco only gets a handful of votes. He was never loved and barely respected. He's a fool to try again. Even my Abuela plans to vote for anyone except that fool.

May 23, 2005 10:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How about Hillary Norton-Orozco? I hear she's thinking of running.

May 24, 2005 12:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You all adv supports are afraid of having anybody to replace the counsel seat for cd14, especially Nick, because it will point back to adv's lack of leadership and no action as a counsel person in cd14

May 24, 2005 12:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's just a game for mayor sam. what does he care about the people of cd14? but, antonio was right, the people of the district will decide who represents them at city hall. not mayor sam. not antonio villaraigosa. no. the people will decide. what bs from mayor sam.

May 24, 2005 1:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Chief Parker is an idiot.

Villaraigosa was the one who started the divisive politics on the eastside.

Pacheco from 1997-1999 was serving as Charter Reform Commissioner (CD14) with Becerra's support, Villaraigosa's support and Gloria Molina's support.

But the moment Pacheco wasn't loyal to Antonio by telling him he would back Becerra for Mayor, Antonio tried to kill his political career.

In 1999, Villaraigosa and Molina targeted Pacheco for elimination by moving in Griego from South Pasadena to be Councilman for the 14th District.

Divisive, divisive, divisive!!!

So much for Chicano power in 1999 and supporting a local boy done good. All that shit went right out the window the moment Villaraigosa and Molina couldn't control Pacheco to help Villaraigosa become Mayor in 2001.

Pacheco beat them and I expect he will beat them again, because Villaraigosa never really served the people of the 14th Council District and they will not fall for a smooth talking wannabe Villaraigosa.

Here is Pacheco's Announcement

Nick Pacheco
Campaign Kick-off Announcement
May 19, 2005

Thank you all for joining me this afternoon in front of one of my biggest public projects as Councilmember of the 14th District. First, I want to congratulate our Councilman for getting elected Mayor of our great city. I wish him well and look forward to working with him to lift all the communities of Los Angeles as a Councilmember, and especially the communities of the 14th District.

Now, I would like to focus on the great district I call home, the 14th Council District.

Right behind me is the future site of the Boyle Heights Youth and Technology Center. This center was a part of my plan to reduce crime in the district. As Councilmember I always promoted the 3Ps of Crime Reduction: Prevention, Protection and Punishment. This site would fall under prevention “for those of you keeping score at home.”

I am running because the people of this district need someone – right now – who can step in and finish the projects that mean so much to them. In many cases, these projects have been in the pipeline for years, some since the day I was elected in 1999. The specific projects include completion of:

- this (Boyle Hts. Youth & Tech. Ctr.) new educational and training center
- the Skate Park in Garvanza
- the preservation of open space at Moon Canyon & Ascot Hills
- the Constituent Service Center in El Sereno
- the tranformation of the Bridewall Armory for a Center for the Arts & Technology
- the Sears site re-development and housing project, and
- the Breed Street Shul as a community resource

I have a vision for the Fourteenth District, a vision that involves maintaining the upward momentum that many of our neighborhoods currently enjoy, while unlocking the tremendous potential of the other neighborhoods in the district. Everyone is aware of the transformation occurring in Hermon, Highland Park, Glassel Park and Eagle Rock for the past 6 years. We need to bring this transformation to El Sereno, Garvanza, San Pasqual, Boyle Heights and all other parts of the district. To facilitate this transformation I will be bringing back the cornerstone of my prior administration, regular constituent contact with their Councilmember.

I will bring back:

- “No Appointment Necessary – Mondays”: every first Monday of the month from 4:00 – 7:00 pm, on a first come first serve basis, I will personally meet with the residents of this great district.
- The Neighborhood Leadership Institute: I will sit with the residents as they reveal their Power Point presentations regarding the changes they want to see in their particular part of the district.

As a council member, I worked very hard. I paid a great deal of attention to the quality of life issues that make such an impact on our neighborhoods. When I demanded the creation of the CLARTS Amenities Fund for this district it was to help us improve the quality of life for every resident of this district. This fund currently generates sufficient funds that once elected as Councilmember I will immediately put in place the following:

- CD 14 Anti-Crime Taskforce: The task force will bring together people from all walks of life to reduce crime. It is only through a joint effort of my office, police, residents, community based organizations (CBOs), city and school departments, and activist that we will get a handle on crime in this district.
- CD 14 Joint Use & Education Taskforce: This task force will bring together administrators from both private and public schools, charter schools, and community based organizations to establish a work-plan to address the needs of our children, both academically and socially.
- CD 14 Business Team: This two person team will be funded by CLARTS funds and focus on assisting our CBOs with grant applications to increase their services and work with our local businesses to increase their capacity to serve the entire Los Angeles region.

I want to thank everyone here for their support. With the help of these great people I look forward to serving as Councilmember of the 14th District once again. Everyone knows how much I love this district and how much I enjoy every detail of this district. Once sworn in as Councilmember I will “hit the ground running” and I expect everyone to keep up. Put on comfortable shoes because there is a lot of work ahead for all of us.

Thank you and God Bless you.

May 24, 2005 1:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pacheco - NO
One Bill Gil - No
HUizar - No


ELISEO! - YES!!!

Eliseo is the dark horse candidate.

He is out getting signatures right now...

May 24, 2005 6:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey, give Chief Parker a break Latino politics on the Eastside is complex and it did exist before Antonio decided to run for Mayor in 2001.

Nick doesn't matter because it is going to be bloody between Gil's camp and Antonio's camp.

May 24, 2005 6:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hi Mayor Dan: Will the firm of Shallman and Skelton be running your campaign for District Attorney?

May 24, 2005 7:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How did LA get stuck with the worst reporters in the US? They're as bad as the Newsweek idiots who reported the wrong story last week.

Antonio had been scheduled for months to go to Washington next month to speak at a conf. Now because Antonio LIES about it and tells reporters he's going to WA to try and get money for LA these lame ass reporters say it. How fucking stupid can these reporters be? Antonio could tell them he's off to MARS and they'd report it.

May 24, 2005 7:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Former Assembly Speaker Bob Hertzberg, who came in third behind Villaraigosa and Mayor James Hahn in the primary election, is expected to chair the mayor-elect's transition team. He'll be assisted by Robin Kramer, executive director of the Broad Foundation, who was chief of staff to former Mayor Richard Riordan.
(and also worked for coke head Richard Alatorre)

May 24, 2005 8:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don't leave out the Big Zero. He's running too. And that Operation Yes bozo too.

May 24, 2005 9:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The "Big O" will officially back Mr. Jose Huizar for City Council.

May 24, 2005 10:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who is the Big "O"

May 24, 2005 10:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon 10:09

Stop the hateful and completely false rumors. F--- You!

There is absolutely no need for these lies.

-Mustang

May 24, 2005 10:27 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

I'm going to do a little off topic cutting and pasting myself here.

The reports of the demise of the Sister City are premature. We've maintained a fairly consistent 1500-2000 hits a day or more this entire month. There was a huge spike up (as to be expected) just prior to the election.

In fact, I had expected us to drop following the elections (election fatigue), but it looks like we are moving along.

Now, posting may be down due to the layoffs at the Hahn Cutting & Pasting Center, but that's a different story.

Blog away dum dums.

Sunday, May 1, 2005 1,099
Monday, May 2, 2005 2,608
Tuesday, May 3, 2005 2,696
Wednesday, May 4, 2005 2,851
Thursday, May 5, 2005 2,357
Friday, May 6, 2005 2,146
Saturday, May 7, 2005 1,349
Sunday, May 8, 2005 1,489
Monday, May 9, 2005 3,795
Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2,852
Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2,960
Thursday, May 12, 2005 3,262
Friday, May 13, 2005 2,566
Saturday, May 14, 2005 1,695
Sunday, May 15, 2005 1,483
Monday, May 16, 2005 3,707
Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3,823
Wednesday, May 18, 2005 3,011
Thursday, May 19, 2005 2,313
Friday, May 20, 2005 1,927
Saturday, May 21, 2005 896
Sunday, May 22, 2005 953
Monday, May 23, 2005 2,544

May 24, 2005 12:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And we're suppose to take your word for it Mayor Sam. Please!! You made up those numbers. You can tell by the posts these days that you've lost considerable people who use to visit and post intelligently. You continue to post negative mean spirited articles on people and wonder why you get slammed. You never posted the 80 made up neighborhood watches. I hear more people are hitting Laobserved.com

May 24, 2005 12:14 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

Dumbass 12:14

I don't give a shit if you believe it or not. You can contact Google if you want to know how many hits we get.

Now go gargle with MEAT!

May 24, 2005 12:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FROM MEAT:

So how is everyone?

All you crazy haters have a fun week watching Antonio be mayor?

Have fun watching him take his victory lap?

May 24, 2005 1:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nick will perform better in the CD 14 race than he did in the DA's race (he did run for DA, right?). I'd he'll do just a little bit better and score 19% (assuming a two person race).

May 24, 2005 2:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let the Big "O" back Huizar. Let's look at his recent record:

Griego '99 - lost
Pacheco '03 - lost
Hahn '05 - lost

Talk about the kiss of death!

May 24, 2005 3:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Rolando Cuevas (aka - Bio "O") is nothing more than a political groupie who sees who's headed in the direction he thinks will take him to better places and sticks to them like gum on shoes.

In all the campaigns he has ever been involved with, he's only served as a big ass ball of hot air with nothing substantive to contribute to ANY campaign. He's good to distract people and to cause a scene with all his shit talking. Other than that, he's worthless.

May 24, 2005 3:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon 2:36pm

Griego 99 was the favorite.
Pacheco victory was an upset.

Pacheco 2003 was the underdog.
It was no secert that Antonio was going to win.

Hahn 2005 was the underdog.
Antonio won end of story.

If, you really know Big O track record it

Hahn over Villaraigosa
Baca over Block.
Gloria Romero over the AFT.
Solis over Martinez
Goldberg over Polanco Guys
Pacheceo over David for Charter Commissioner.
Willie Brown for Mayor of S.F.
Martin Ludlow over Nate Holden Guy.
Ed Reyes for CD 1.
Richard Polanco over Mike Hernandez
Gloria Molina over Art Torres for Supervisor.

The list goes on.

May 24, 2005 4:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To all the "Big O" haters please, if you have someting to say about me do not hide behind ANONYMOUS say who you are I will have more respect for you.

May 24, 2005 4:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FROM MEAT:

Hey ANON 4:08pm

Your a little shit whose only card is to fucking lie and talk shit about people. When you go to hell i'll be there with you to help the torture process continue on a little longer than the plan called for.

May 24, 2005 4:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To 4:08

Get in line Meat - this assholes mine.

-Mustang

May 24, 2005 4:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FROM MEAT:

Big "O" I have no hate for you brother -- you win some and lose some, i've lost in the past and will lose again. Today we won and i'll enjoy it until the next battle.

But i do have some pain to deliver to the little shits running around this blog lying about people they know nothing about.

Like the big "O" said, stop hiding behind anonymous and show your little faces.

blog away dum-dums

May 24, 2005 4:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Meat, if you need help call the Big O because Anon 4:08 has cross the line.

May 24, 2005 4:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

show your face!~!!

May 24, 2005 4:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think the entire blogger community should be afraid if the Big "O" and MEAT join forces.

The entire Los Angeles political community should be afraid as well.

May 24, 2005 4:24 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

In 1944, underneath my desk, now that was a Big O!

May 24, 2005 4:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm reading but there is not 4:08 post. What is this all about?

May 24, 2005 4:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There's that Mayor Sam humor that we love.

May 24, 2005 5:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Did I miss something cause there's no 4:08pm anon?

MEAT you have a lot of nerve. You hide behind your dumb screen and are afraid to come out. Don't forget Antonio only got 18% and there were more then 2 million people who didn't vote. The media protected him.

MEAT you sound so bitter for just winning. Here's my advice.
1. Call Dr. Laura at noon and discuss your mental baggage.
2. Get tickets and go on Dr. Phil
3. Sounds like you're a really uptight guy so find a mate on match.com. Maybe that's your problem
4. Go to Barnes & Noble. I've heard they have a great "Self-Help" section for you.

May 24, 2005 5:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Business Journal's Howard Fine sizes up the contest for president of the City Council between Alex Padilla, who has the job and jumped from Hahn to Villaraigosa this year, and Eric Garcetti, who backed Hahn but is politically closer to the mayor-elect. If the buzz is correct, Padilla is lining up his ducks to run for the state Senate seat now held by Richard Alarcon, who would flip over to the state Assembly (in a bid to become Speaker) and back current assemblywoman Cindy Montañez for the Senate.

May 24, 2005 5:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You're stupid!

No you're stupid and a liar!

No, you're liar.

This is the state of political discourse in the Age of Antonio.

Suits him!

May 24, 2005 6:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The 4:08 post had something to do with a pregnant person. I do not know a name or who it is. This is why i am confused as to why some are upset. Can someone explain this anger on the blog?

May 24, 2005 6:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

From The "Big O"

Leave Antonio alone don't you guys get it he won! He now the Mayor come 7/1/2005.

Do not get me wrong I fought to the last second for Hahn and we came up short.

As for Meat congratulation on your victory enjoy your four years.

Like my friends from the hood say "Don't hate the Player. Hate the game."

May 24, 2005 6:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Eric Garcetti will be the council president before the end of the year.

May 24, 2005 7:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The one thing CD 14 residents can hope to get out of the campaign to replace AV are some new potholders. My old "Re-elect Pacheco" potholders are on their last legs. The campaign can't begin soon enough!

May 24, 2005 7:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Garcetti is the best on the Council. Hope he makes President. Will be interesting to see how the votes line up. Padilla ain't done much.

May 24, 2005 7:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't know any of you clowns however all I have to say about big O is that he is loyal and dedicated to all his candidates. If I ever run for office I want him on my side. I don't know him but I sure as hell respect him.

May 24, 2005 9:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, I've seen Pacheco and what he did to our community the during his 4 years and I can say to everyone that I and others I know will not be voting for that man! He really created a mess and left one for Antonio's people to try to clean up. Believe me, my vote is anybody but Pacheco and so will all the votes of my friends.

May 24, 2005 9:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"I don't know him but I sure as hell respect him."

This comment above was the most dumbest comment on this thread...

May 24, 2005 10:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam, Your site is literally trash now. It used to be interesting to browse, but not anymore...sayonara...

May 24, 2005 10:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Big O love him or hate him he marches to his beat. I think he refreshing because he's honest, hard working, and loyal to candidates he support. Also, I do not know any other person who pumps-up the volunteers to work hard.

May 24, 2005 10:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That may all be true about Big O; I don't know him. But I wouldn't want him as a corresponding officer, I know that.

May 25, 2005 1:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9.54 Teraforma. Can you give a little substance to your charges? What mess did Pacheco leave? And while you're are at, list a few accomplishments of Antonio Villaraigosa. Many thanks in advance.

May 25, 2005 1:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Are the Meatheads in CD 14 so dense that they do not get it?

Elect a Councilman who can get along with the Mayor!

That lets Pacheco and One Bill Gil out.

Find someone else...

May 25, 2005 5:04 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It amazes me how people can turn so easily. Big O slammed Antonio more than anyone else. He obviously didn't like nor believed in him. NOW all of a sudden he forgets why he slammed him and is telling people to leave Antonio alone.

Its hard to believe BIG O would support Jose Huizar. He more than anyone knows Jose's baggage and the whole Taylor Yard land deal to Richard Muerlo.

Amazing how soon people forget and are hypocritical for their own gains. Its amazing they sleep at night. POLITICS

May 25, 2005 5:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, that's the Big O, Rolando Cuevas for you. How do you support that massive head without a backbone?

May 25, 2005 8:15 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ANON 5:55am

To the Big O Haters ANON 5:55 & 8:15.

The two of you losers must be jealous of me because I have balls to accept defeat with grace.

I will be held accountable for my actions and I accept whatever the terms.

Maybe both you losers are having a hard time with reality that Antonio is the new Mayor.

Finally, suck it up Jose huizar with my help or not will be the next Council member of district 14.

I suspect hater 5:55 & 8:15 are people that believe that I should join the darkside.

Go Antonio Go. Go Antonio Go.
For, your information I have personally given my congratulation to the new Mayor face-face.

May 25, 2005 8:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The so called "little O" "Big O" you must be obese, you are far worse than ADV. Yes, Antonio won this election, and Yes their is going to be a new councilman, but not Huizar. Why do all of you Latinos promoting only Latino people. This city is composed of other races and I for one would like to see an Asian and African American person. It does not count who Villaraigosa wants, it only counts who the people want.

May 25, 2005 9:20 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Big Zero is one fat ugly toad. He better lay down the shovel and pick up the fork or he's going to end up like poor old Lloyd Monserratt. It's a good thing he doesn't put on weight by eating his own words or he'd explode like the guy from Monty Python's The Meaning of Life. He deserves no forgiveness for the way he spoke of the new mayor. He can go sit under a tree and become the California Buddha ... only you get no wishes when you rub his belly.

May 25, 2005 9:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

All of you ADV staff and supporters posting here, especially Mayor Sam pushing the Huizar AGENDA. Well, let me say this, "It all depends on who the people want in office, not who you want in office!" It is especially disturbing to read post after post discussing the latino possible candidates, and you have left out all other ethnic people out of the councilman race in CD14. Huizar is not the only option, it may be the option AV, Parke, SMith, Riordan, and the Vignali gang want, but keep in mind on what the people want. There are alot of Asian Americans in CD14. It would be a true Mayor to support a candidate that was not of his race (latino) and show that he indeed is trying to be a candidate of all people. If I know well, the mayor will support those that have funded him well, and supported him through kickbacks in contracts. Huizar has every right to run for any office, but so does every other citizen in this district. We need new credible people to run, not these recycled bodies that are puppets for a dime a dozen. ADV is not the Latino face, he is the latino farce.

May 25, 2005 9:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ANON 9:20

I encourage Latino/a, black, white, asian, male, female, gay, and whoever I forgot to mention to run for CD 14th.

If, I choose to support latino/a candidate that my problem.

Anon 9:20
If, you choose to call me names the bullying people around my age is over. Obviously you are still a special education student over the age 30 struggling to graduate from high school.

Go Antonio Go.

Thats right from the Big O.

May 25, 2005 9:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FROM NACHO FROM PICO:

Ok, I'm going to do something that I never, NEVER, thought that I would do: give credit to Big "O".

Given he has his style of political activism. Call it what you will, but it's definitely his style. He will trash talk, get in your face, and leave it all out there when he's done. he can be vulgar and just straight out rude and disrespectful. Oh well, that's Big "O" for you.

With that said, every time that I have seen him be part of the losing side, he has taken it like a man and congratulated the winner in a mature, respectful manner. Yes, it's hard to believe that he would do that considering that many (including I) consider his campaigning tactics to be childish, but somehow he ends up dealing with defeat better than most people.

So Big "O", it's good to see that you can deal with defeat in the manner that you do. But if you were able to handle yourself during campaigns in the same manner which you do afterwards, I believe your street cred and overall respect in the political circles would improve dramatically.

May 25, 2005 9:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anon 9:43

I am Asian American 52 years old, business man from Eagle Rock. I am Democrat and proud to elect Antonio, but I get upset when he does not support other races. I did finish High School, College, and have my own business for over 20 years. I give money to the community, schools and politicians. What do you do "O" do you just complain?

May 25, 2005 9:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh sure, he has "style." If you call acting like a dumb fucking idiot "style," then yes, he has it in spades.

May 25, 2005 9:59 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What does Big Zero and Jabba the Hut have in common? They're both fatheads with no necks and bottomfeeders of the outgoing administration.

May 25, 2005 10:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I can't believe how ill informed all you posters can be.

The raw population base in CD 14 lends itself to having CM candidates that have the same ethnic background as the majority of the population - as they are supposed to be from the community. No one has said that only a Latino can run for this seat, it's just that the three first candidates that have come out happen to be Latinos.

Why do you insist on making this a race thing when no one is saying it has to be a Latino who runs? What really surprises me is that a strong female candidate is missing from the debate. But, I guess that after reading how misogynisticly some of these posters berate women in political circles, they (strong women in politics) have decided not to expose themselves to such lies and innuendos. Truly sad as I know we all miss out on some true talent out there.

I still stand by my earlier comment that whoever decides to run has to have their act together right now. The pressure will be put on the City Clerk to have the primary election in 60 days instead of 90, so it will be an all out war for ten weeks straight.

Given that time frame, Huizar has the upper hand. He can fundraise into his current account where as Nick has no account - except for debt account which he can not transfer $$$ out of. Gil can try to raise $$$, but that has never been his strength and can't develop that base within the next 100 days.

Other than a female candidate jumping in, the only other surprise I can see would be a wealthy businessperson jumping in who can personally bankroll this deal.

Huizar makes it to the run-off, against who is to be decided.

-Mustang.

May 25, 2005 10:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

WHO'S THE PREGNANT CHICK IN VILLARAIGOSA'S OFFICE??? ANYONE??

May 25, 2005 10:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I sense so much anger out in the blogging community in regard to the Big O for supporting Jose Huizar, and for saying congratulation to the new Mayor Elect Antonio.


If, you are mad at me because I have chosen to support Jose Huizar over the other guys suck-it up baby.

My advice to all the immature blogger who hate Antonio GET OVER IT CRY BABIES.

UNLIKE MANY PEOPLE THE BIG O DOES NOT HAVE TO HIDE FROM ANYONE.

WHEN I SUPPORT MY CANDIDATE I LIVE AND DIE WITH THE RESULT.

I DO NOT HAVE TO HIDE IN DEFEAT.
YOUR TRUE COLORS COME OUT IN DEFEAT NOT VICTORY.

GO ANTONIO GO.
ANTONIO FOR GOV.
ANTONIO FOR PRESIDENT.
ANTONIO FOR WHATEVER OFFICE.

GOT LOVE THE BIG OOOOOOOOOOOOO.

I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WISH THEY COULD CONTROL ME, BUT I THOUGHT SLAVERY WAS OVER.

May 25, 2005 10:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To: Nacho from Pico.

From: The Big OOOOOOOOOO.

If, you decide to run for office I'll be there for you.

All Anti Antonio support please do ask because I hate bitter losers.

Hahn lovers I'll also support anyone of you.

May 25, 2005 10:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ANON 10:38

Who pregnant in Villaraigosa office? Your Mother, Sister, Girl friend.

May 25, 2005 10:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mustang - you're not informed either. You have at least one huge factual error. But it's not my job to point it out.

But, based on your post, don't ever again criticize people for being uninformed.

May 25, 2005 11:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Anon 10:54 a.m. first of all check your grammar! Secondly men aren't the only one's who blog you know. And lastly, get a life!

BTW BIG-O love your smile, but are you jocking for forgiveness or a job? Just curious in Los Angeles.

May 25, 2005 1:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

He's jocking for access, which is normal for anybody who ends up on the wrong side of an election.

May 25, 2005 1:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wwe all supported who we thought would be better for this city. What bothers me is BIG O really said the truth about Antonio as did many of us and it seems so easy he can just forget those words and move on to another race! Call me human but I could never forget what I said and wipe it off my mind so easily. I didn't vote for Antonio and maybe in time I will accept him being mayor. However, I feel its way too soon to be congratulating someone who burned, disrespected, dismissed and used his own people for his own political gain. Maybe its because I have seen senior citizens cry and tell me that they called the council office and they were yelled at. Maybe its because I've heard of horror stories from mothers who desperately needed help and advice to take care of an issue and they were hung up on.

BIG O I give you credit for having a cold heart and being able to move on so quickly. But glad I'm nothing like you.

May 25, 2005 2:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bingo, last poster. Nail on the head!

"Unfaithful in the little things..."

Too much posturing and not enough serving the people.

May 25, 2005 3:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Big O, your convictions are weak, your verbal skills stink, and it looks like your sinking your teeth on your next job...yes, your lining up for a job and begging for it on a blog. You may convince the naive, but not all buy the circus act. I am a counsel for Antonio, and I would not take you in if you volunteered.

May 25, 2005 3:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A blogger posted this name "June Harriman," what does this person have to do with politics?

May 25, 2005 3:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:09

If you were counsel to Antonio, then you would be smarter than to blab about it here.

A person in this position doesn't need to showoff to the whole world. I guess you won't have his ear for long.

Amateur.

May 25, 2005 3:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FROM MEAT:

Anyone counseling Antonio has no idea this blog exist. Neither does Antonio.

blog away

May 25, 2005 3:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Meat

Although I have agreed with you in the past, you lie like a rug about AV's staff not knowing this blog exists.

They may be extremely busy to post during the day - but who else would care enough to be up at 2 or 3am posting and rebutting.

See you at inaugural!

May 25, 2005 3:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

When did this BLOG thread become about the BIG-O? I thought we were here to DISScuss the Huizeer!

May 25, 2005 3:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Meat, for once, I have to say that you're full of it on that comment. Look, EVERYBODY knows that this blog exists! I don't care if you're still using a typewriter that you have to push back into position when the line finishes, you're going to know about this site if you have any bit of politics in your life.

May 25, 2005 4:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What has the "Big O" done to merit such attention on this blog. Has he ever run for office, has he ever run a campaign, has he ever orchestrated anything remotely resembling community adavancement - no. All Rolando Cuevas has going for him is the long list of people that he has insulted, including Nick Pacheco's mother, Antonio's family and Hahn's legacy. But this is the way he has always conducted himself, going back to the days when he was a "D" student at UCSB. Maybe that should be his new call sign - the "BIG D" - all those connotations brought up by this name would surely fit.

May 25, 2005 4:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The game of politic like football does not have room for soft heart or minds. Only the strong survie and weak die!

When you decide to support a candidate you have decided to suffer the consequences that come with defeat.

Bloggers, I understand the consequences of defeat ask Nicks office how they treat Victor Griego and all his supporter including the BIG OOOOO.

Adraina, Nick Mother, Martin, Juana and there gang beat the shit out of us for 3 1/2 years.

Did I shake Nick hand in defeat YES!

When Nick ran for re-election I supported Nick and lost, and once again I shook Antonio hand and said "CONGRATULATION"

For the record Antonio staff never treated me like shit but in the same breathe I never asked for anything.

Now 2005 I supported Mayor Hahn with great pride and we lost to Antonio.

Just because you shake hands does not mean the winning team will forgive you for a cheat shot, clip, or chopping below the knees.

Shaking hands and saying congratulation to the winner is about sportmanship!

May 25, 2005 4:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Utterly incomprehensible....

May 25, 2005 5:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yabba Dabba Doo, what?

May 25, 2005 6:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Boy Rolando, you sure do place yourself high on your own self made pedestal. What's the matter, can't get anyone else to toot your horn. But then again, what would they be tooting, you haven't done anything. Getting in peoples faces isn't much of an accomplishment.

May 25, 2005 6:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That's a good one 6:09, Rolando does come across as the Mexican Fred Flintstone.

May 25, 2005 6:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, he would be a good Mexican Fred Flintstone, but I think he fits more of a Mexican Homer Simpson:

oO(Go Hahn, Go! You can do it!... What, he lost??? DOH!)

May 25, 2005 7:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey! Alvin Parra still holds the title of Homer Simpon, dating back to '02. Has the torch now been passed?

May 25, 2005 8:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ok, you got me there, but I just think that the visual of Big O going "Doh!" is funnier than that of Parra doing it.

Parra just seems like the Little Politico that Could (well, more like I couldn't)...

oO(I think I can, I think I can, I think I... Doh!)

May 25, 2005 8:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OK. U got me. The visual is funnier.

May 25, 2005 8:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You guys have it all wrong. He's like Chunk from Goonies ... only a little older, a little heavier and just as dimwitted.

May 25, 2005 8:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How about this visual, Rolando as Homer and Alvin as Ned Flanders.

May 25, 2005 9:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Rolando Cuevas, 36, a community outreach activist originally from Boyle Heights, says he's a Hahn volunteer because "I have the ambition to make my community safer. Boyle Heights is very gang-ridden. I think it is very important for Hahn to win because he'll help achieve the goal. So I volunteer as much time as I can."

May 25, 2005 11:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I thought of Alvin as more like Millhouse.

May 25, 2005 11:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pacheco, we have asked you to stop. You never would listen. Why should we expect you to now. You are one to talk about someone else having a cold heart and being able to move on so quickly. You have no heart - no respect.

May 25, 2005 11:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is the thread that won't die. A question for you nightowls? Who would you consider the Steve Erkel of politics? They would have to be smart (which means some people discussed on this thread are automatically cut off) but also annoying and dorky. On the female side, your suggestions on the Ursula of politics. They have to be cunning, heavy-set and wickedly-smart.

May 25, 2005 11:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Change the template back already. I liked it the old way.

May 25, 2005 11:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ace Smith is the Erkel of L.A. politics. Come on - even ADV lovers have to admit that. This guy looks like the coroner from central casting.

May 26, 2005 6:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Very appropriate, he just helped put a dead man in City Hall.

It is true ADV finally did "roll up his sleeves" after two year on city payroll and found out there was nothing there?

Empty suit!

Told you so!

I'm ready for my photo-op, A.S., where do I stand.

When you ask ADV where he stands on any issue, he starts looking for the red tape on the floor in front of the cameras.

May 26, 2005 6:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pacheco was the most honest, accessible CM the 14th district has had in 40 years. He got more down in any six month period that anyone before of after did in 2-4 years. Brought so much new money into the district that ADV still couldn't figure out how to spend after Pacheco left. There are many, many millions of dollars in community funds rotting in city accounts designated for CD14 projects that ADV's staff couldn't get going if they had a starter button on top that said "press here" ("PRESS, where's the camera??")

If ADV has cared enough about the district, he could have spent one day a week doing its work and had all those projects up and running and been a hero to all the ADV-haters that posted here in recent month, or at least shut them up.

People didn't elect ADV in 2003 because they hated Pacheco, they elected him because they "thought" ADV would do more (not less). He said he would - but didn't address ONE single initiative he ran on.

What did he do? Campaign photo-op cleanups funded by city Public Works Clean-Sweep budgets - one per quarter.

Don't tell me to get over it. ADV won, now you better neging to get over HIM. Nothing will start, keep moving, or get finished in this city for the next four years.

Two-bill Gil will look like an overachiever compared to what ADV does in the next four years.

Bet the farm.

May 26, 2005 6:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Old Pacheco had a farm, E I, E I, doh!

May 26, 2005 7:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And old Villaraigosa had a brothel e-i-e-i-ooooooooooooo!

May 26, 2005 9:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No, no, no. The song goes, Old Tony V. had a Muruelo, I.E, I.E. Oh shit!

May 26, 2005 3:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

WARNING:

This article comes from the NY Times:

There's an old legal adage that "talebearers are as bad as talemakers."

A talemaker, as you might guess, is someone who wrongly communicates or publishes a whopper of a lie about someone else. That person may be guilty of defamation. In addition -- and here's the kicker -- a person who carelessly or recklessly re-publishes or circulates a defamation -- the talebearer -- may also be guilty of libel. After all, as courts have long pointed out, the last utterance of a false statement that injures a person's reputation may do just as much harm as the first.

But what happens when arguably libelous material is not re-published by a talebearer in a newspaper or magazine on terra firma but is "re-posted" in an Internet news group or bulletin board -- an interactive environment that tends to be chock full of re-postings, musings and hyperbolic statements. Does the standard rule that a re-publisher of a libel may be in hot water apply in cyberspace?

Under a recent decision by the California Court of Appeal, the answer is YES!

The case involved a woman who posted to USE-NET groups. She was informed by the victim of libel, a doctor with a very public reputation, that certain facts that had appeared on him were wrong.

Despite this notice, she kept on publishing. She even published his letter on the same USE-NET group, as an "in your face" type move.

The Court was not amused. It determined that the poster, as a taleteller (repeater), though in Cyberspace, was just as guilty of libel as anyone else who purposefully slanders a person's reputation.

Though damages have not been set yet, they are expected to be in the millions of dollars...

May 26, 2005 7:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Something tells me that "Yeah, I won you fuckin' crybabies!" might be more along the line of what Villaraigosa would be thinking than "Oh Shit".

May 26, 2005 10:34 PM  

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