More Heat in the Hahn Kitchen
The Daily News "staffer discipline" story occurred Thursday evening at the LA County Young Democrats endorsement meetings. It turns out that Hahn's camp, feeling scorned for his dismal performance at the LA County Democratic Party endorsements earlier in the week, felt the need to stack the meeting and hijack the endorsement. This is nothing new in most political circles. The interesting part is how they went about it.
First, a city hall mayoral staffer sent an e-mail to fellow co-workers asking them to attend the meeting and vote for Hahn. (See Boi From Troy's excellent scoop on details). While she did use a private account, the e-mail was sent at 3:56 PM. Now, either A) she wasn't at work during what most of us would consider normal business hours and was off campaigning for her boss, or B) she used a city hall PC to send the e-mail. Either way, a spade is a spade, and this doesn't look right.
Second, many of these staffers who received the e-mail turned around and drove city vehicles to the event. Another no-no of the city code. (Technical difficulties prevent me from posting the pictures of these cars, but trust me they do exist, as multiple angry LACYD members sent them to us out of anger for Hahn taking them for granted the last four years and then stacking the room to block their endorsement, which was recommended by their endorsement committee to go to both Villaraigosa and Hertzberg as a dual endorsement).
To add a bit of color commentary, I love this quote by Kam Kuwata, Hahn's campaign guru in the Daily News story: "Hahn campaign spokesman Kam Kuwata accused Villaraigosa and Hertzberg of showing a lack of respect for the democratic process. "(Supporters) were not asked by Jim Hahn to go," Kuwata said. "We all have constitutional rights to vote. I'm surprised that Bob Hertzberg and Antonio Villaraigosa would take away people's rights to vote." Funny. That's not how I see it.
The Daily News "padded bills" story stokes more flames on the fire of the Fleishman debacle.
Public relations bills submitted to the Port of Los Angeles by a Fleishman-Hillard executive who is now Mayor James Hahn's press secretary were marked up by more than $1,700 in 2003 without documentation that extra work was done, according to records and interviews.Outrageous is right. Normally, I'd give her the benefit of the doubt, but with indictments swirling and the controversy in the Mayor's office growing larger every day, it's getting tougher to believe a word any of them say.
Shannon Murphy, who left the firm less than two months later to replace Matt Middlebrook, who joined Fleishman-Hillard, declined to be interviewed but said in a statement that the handwritten additions to her billing statements were "outrageous."
The LA Times story re Hahn and Hertzberg shows just how heated this race is becoming. The part that caught my eye was not the main focus of the story, but something I found as a bit of irony. Note the second paragraph:
Hahn and his campaign aides have blamed Hertzberg for the state's crumbling highways, derided him as a "Sacramento politician" and tried to tar him as a consultant to a public relations firm accused of fleecing the city.As the Daily News points out today (Hahn's Traffic Jam), Hahn is hardly the transportation guru. For someone deriding "Sacramento Politicians", why is he bragging about their endorsements (California State Senator Gil Cedillo, California State Senator Jack Scott, California State Assemblymember Betty Karnette, California State Assemblymember Rudy Bermudez)? Wasn't Hahn's administration the one 's actually fleecing the city with the PR help the were provided under the DWP contract?
Just some thoughts for a Sunday morning when I was hoping to see comments on what people were gossiping about.
Posted by Anonymous @ 1/23/2005 07:45:00 AM
32 Comments:
Chief Parker I'm amazed at the lengths you will go to campaign against Hahn and how this website has now become a one-sided ,unbalanced site. Have you noticed lately how many people you have lost? I remember the days when your posts were attracting tons of bloggers. That isn't so any longer. Instead of reporting unbalanced stories go back to your strategy of being fair and then maybe you'll get those bloggers who have left for other sites and have more of a balance.
Quit picking on the Mayor of this City for taking inconsistent positions and claiming 'he knows nothing about what his staff is doing....they act on their own'. Sadly he doesn't get it.
First, if you think that Shannon Murphy didn't know that her billings were being upped, then you probably still believe that the Pope is not Catholic. As you know from the now documented revelations from former employees of Fleishman Hillard, the staff was regularly told their 'billing requirments', when they were and weren't billing enough(always) and about the upcharges. She should resign now, period.
Second, Kawata's quote was not only rediculous, but if you think it through, what he criticizes Hertzberg and Villiaragosa about is just what his staffers, whom we the City pay for their jobs, using our vehicles that we pay for. They stacked the deck and they violated and abused the political process for their own personal gain and job security. If Hahn had the guts, he would fire all who participated in these meetings for their actions in corrupting the process. To think that his staff didn't check with Kawata and McKosker and they didn't check with Hahn before this action was taken, is like believing gthat the tooth fairy is real. They Mayor sets ethical standards that flow like the LA river during storms. His so called eithical standards take different twists and turns and flow like the ebb and tide as the weather changes, always to his benefit or that of those who support him.
Third, thsnk you so much for picking up the fact that Hahn and his campaign are criticising the very people they are wining and dining to obtain their support. It is again the duplicity and inconsitency of his positions, those from whom he seeks support and the methods which he and his staff undertake to survive this election that can only lead one to believe that his ONLY concern is to remain as Mayor and he has no plan and no real concern, even after his first term of Mayor, about the well being of the City. Those City interests are ALWAYS secondary in the best intereests of JIM 'THE JACKAL' HAHN !!!
Why do you assume Shannon Murphy is guilty? Did you work at Fleishman at the time? Did you hear her say that she did it or that she knows who did it? If you didn't, you better stop saying that before you get a lawsuit slapped on your idiot behind.
And get over the Eastside Democratic mtg or whatever the hell it was- we all know that these things happen because we all work in politics. Office staff always go to campaign events in their off time. They go to mtgs and vote for their boss. They would be foolish to not do so. However, they are usally not so STUPID as the Hahn staffer who should be fired, but in reality we all know this goes on for every candidate, why are you all pretending that it doesn't?
There are several important things to take out of this yet, another scandal from Hahn's administration:
1) The organizations need to share part of the blame for this problem. They're policies allow for politicians to be able to get some people together and alter the endorsement of an organization. Northeast Democratic Club had a similar problem in the last Mayoral Election, when Becerra and La Colectiva organized to bring in over 20 youth to join the club on that night and attempt to change the way that the endorsement would have gone. The votes that night (just like they did at this week's Young Dems meeting) showed that the heart and soul of the club were going to go to Villaraigosa (Hertzberg included in the Young Dems) and that their presence was what prevented the other camp from stealing the endorsement. In both instances, the groups came out with a no endorsement for any candidate.
These groups need to change the membership status of their bylaws to ensure that those who vote come endorsement meetings are those members who actually have demonstrated a desire to be part of the club and strengthen it, rather than let these examples of vote stuffing occur by any politician. Maybe changing it so that only previous members who have not been inactive for longer than a year can pay dues at the meeting and regain member status. These slight changes would only come to strengthen the value of an endorsement, but also the integrity of an organization.
2) Kam Kuwata's quote is a pure joke. I can't believe that this seasoned political player would have the nerve to respond to this "pay for play" incident in the manner that he did. If you're going to get an endorsement, you should try to value it for it's authenticity and what it really means to your campaign. What Hahn's camp probably ended up doing was strengthen the vote of those who are part of the Young Dems and actually support Villaraigosa and Hertzberg to work harder for their respective candidate to beat Hahn come March 8. Let's see what happens.
3) I hope that the fact that Hahn's staffer (and I think somebody from Ludlow's office too) got busted using her car to go to a political event sends a sign to all politicians that they cannot for one second think that they can try to use taxpayer funds to forward their political agenda. I know that Ludlow decided that his staff should reimburse the city for the use of the car for that night, but I hope that Hahn's Chief of Staff takes a hard stance on his staff member, as I'm sure that they had to go over political dos and don'ts before Hahn began his campaign.
even more delicious was kuwata's quote about disciplining the hahn staffer for using her car - what the hell is a campaign operative doing punishing city staff?
just further proof that there are NO lines between campaign and city resources for hahn. he'll do anything to get re-elected.
--fridge
Give me a break. First all this only shows that the other mayoral candidates are desperate and are angry that the Hahn supporters had the good sense to be at these endorsement meetings and they didn't think of it first. Secondly, to solve the problem these democratic orgs. should state emphatically for members only. That would end the whining. I want to know if the people who took the pictures used city cameras. I know for a fact that Tony has used his city staff to campaign and be at functions to influence constituents on city time. If you don't think Hertzberg, Alarcon and especially Parks hasn't done anything unethical while campaigning then all of you are living on another planet. Get real..this is politics. The ones making the loudest noise about corruption have major skeltons in their closet, taking money from ENRON, giving money to organizations outside their districts, making up lies about accomplishments that they had nothing to do with etc.
The previous blogger's entry clearly shows where the problem is within these blog discussions. This topic began not from accusations or midguided rumors, but from a charge that was supported enough by evidence that it brought action from the Daily News and from Hahn's administration.
The previous blogger just goes on to make accusations without providing any evidence of improprieties that have taken place by other campaigns. You state Villaraigosa has used his staff on City time to campaign on his behalf, just like other bloggers have before (or maybe it's you who posted all the other times). The point is: PROVE IT! Give us instances that you are aware of when this happened. Give us events, dates, which staff member did it, etc. Please come back to this blog and post again when you have that.
You finish your post making numerous statements regarding other candidates (although my money says that you're talking about Villaraigosa). Once again: PROVE IT! At least give us, the people who come to Mayor Sam's Blog, who contribute to this blog with thought-provoking comments, something to come away from your entries other than blind accusations.
Come on, si se puede!
There is no Sunday off anymore in JH's office for anyone. Campaign staff or regular staff. All of us (I think we are sometimes reffered to as the bigger cheese) are on the job 24/7. Or as the saying in the office goes: you want your job in June... keep your butt in motion. Make the boss look good.
The e-mail message posted at fellow bloggers BoifromTroy site was only the begining. Staffers were hustled out of the office to make the vote. (Perhaps a check of cellphone records thru the use of freedom of information act) will prove to all you taxpayers out there, just how those lines between city paid work and campaign staff has been erased.
JH and his uptight (I will not get more graphic here) campaign staff are going ape-sh**. A big to do last week was about "Who the F*** is leaking all this stuff to them Mother-F****** Bloggers?
2 hours at JH command was about bloggers.
AV and BH are preparing for a nasty and dirty fight from JH. For those that are interested, these 2 men, although far away on leadership styles and agendas have remained cordial friends.
The best strategy for now would be for them to compare notes when going after the Robber Barron JH. His office is out of control.
I should know,
I am The Fly....
Stay tuned...
Antonio and Hertzberg while in Sacramento almost bankrupted California. No one can tell me that they would know how to run a city. Hertzberg continues on ihis idiotic idea of separating schools that he's been critized for time and time again in the press. He took money from BFI, was a consultant for Fleishman and has the audacity to attack Hahn. Antonio is just as bad. He hasn't done a damn thing in his district, go to any community meeting and all you hear is "get rid of him," he's been lying about his accomplishments and in time will get nailed. Hertzberg and Antonio just talk about what they did years ago in Assembly. They can't say what they've done in the last year cause there's nothing. All Antonio has done is have the residents pick up brooms to sweep. His supporters from council campaign are now supporting Alarcon. That in itself is a loud and clear message.
Antonio and Hertzberg while in Sacramento almost bankrupted California. No one can tell me that they would know how to run a city. Hertzberg continues on ihis idiotic idea of separating schools that he's been critized for time and time again in the press. He took money from BFI, was a consultant for Fleishman and has the audacity to attack Hahn. Antonio is just as bad. He hasn't done a damn thing in his district, go to any community meeting and all you hear is "get rid of him," he's been lying about his accomplishments and in time will get nailed. Hertzberg and Antonio just talk about what they did years ago in Assembly. They can't say what they've done in the last year cause there's nothing. All Antonio has done is have the residents pick up brooms to sweep. His supporters from council campaign are now supporting Alarcon. That in itself is a loud and clear message.
Those Hahn staffers can bash Villaraigosa and Hertzberg all they want. Debra Yang doesn't care. And Debra Yang is the one they should be worried about.
If Debra Yang had anything on JH and his staffers, she would have already indicted them. Don't you know that almost 95% of political ethics "scandals" mysteriously pop up around election time and suspiciously disappear afterwards? Then about 2 years later, an article runs from the DA or someone saying there was no misconduct.
Oh yeah, you wouldn't know anything about that because you don't know crap about politics or campaigns.
FROM MEAT:
NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH UPDATE: Here's the reason why i can't list the names of the neighborhood watches (same reason LAPD won’t either) -- secrecy is key, the gangs don't know these watches exist and for their safety the Villaraigosa folks won't release the names -- however Vic Dennis Head of LAPD community policing will verify the number of neighborhood watches as increased substantially -- Officer Galindo in the will verify a substantial increase in neighborhood watches in his division (Northeast).
As for the bar owners financing this --- El Prado and El Leon de Oro are now financing this recall with paid walkers who have so far gathered 1,760 sigs -- and this is before verification. Unfortunately 3 of them are my friends and i can tell you a HUGE number of them aren't voters -- so your money is going down the tubes. Latest polling again has Antonio with an 81% approval rating in his district, 13% disapprove and 6% no opinion. With the threshold being 15% of the voters in the district needing to sign the recall form -- it ain't going to happen. As for the numbers game -- you guys need to be closer to 3,500 as of today to reach 12,000. You are well short of that goal - recall ain't going to happen.
Ok now that i've put that to rest i'd like to move on to the real target – This Mayor.
Now we know why Yolanda Fuentes was missing in action during her 2nd week on the job as a commissioner she was orchestrating the LA County Central Committee vote (which they lost) and the LA County Young Democrats (which they lost) even with the expose the Daily News and the Boi From Troy did we now know whats going on in the campaign for Jim Hahn - complete lack of a campaign. While Antonio has well over 400 folks walking and talking on Sat (LA Times was only there for the morning part, not the rest of the day where more people joined in) Hahn was where again? Oh yeah having to punish his staffers for being IIIIIIDIOTS.
Today's Daily News regarding the SOHA debate: Some 500 people turned out for the event, which featured all of the major candidates except Hahn, sparking complaints from those in attendance about being snubbed.
"There are so many debates and just so much time," said Hahn campaign consultant Kam Kuwata. "The mayor was not snubbing the Sherman Oaks homeowners or anyone in the Valley."
However i can tell you right now -- the invite for the SOHA debate was months and months ago -- in fact Richard Close was heard saying the mayor can confirm with us 5 mins before the debate starts and that will be fine. What we learned however was this....Hahn had been invited last September but told organizers he could not attend.
Villaraigosa's campaign said the mayor was making an appearance before the Northeast Democratic Club in Highland Park where he was seeking to win the group's backing. However, the campaign said the club backed Villaraigosa after hearing a four-minute speech from his wife, Corina.
--That was from Jan 20th Daily News.
This should be a fun week – Hahn gives his state of the valley – always fun. LA Times will come out with their poll which will show the same thing we already know Hahn and Antonio in the top two positions – with Hertzberg ready to get into the 2nd place position by knocking out Hahn. And I am sure Hahn will do something dumb to prove once again he does not deserve a 2nd term.
Lastly, as for the Daily News today regarding the padding of the PR bills – I personally see no scandal there – I don’t see the Fleishman stuff being that criminal, I am waiting for the Troy Edwards – LAX, DWP and Ports of LA indictments.
P.S. Cooley hates Hahn.
Blog away dum-dums
FROM MEAT:
NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH UPDATE: Here's the reason why i can't list the names of the neighborhood watches (same reason LAPD won’t either) -- secrecy is key, the gangs don't know these watches exist and for their safety the Villaraigosa folks won't release the names -- however Vic Dennis Head of LAPD community policing will verify the number of neighborhood watches as increased substantially -- Officer Galindo will verify a substantial increase in neighborhood watches in his division (Northeast).
As for the bar owners financing this --- El Prado and El Leon de Oro are now financing this recall with paid walkers who have so far gathered 1,760 sigs -- and this is before verification. Unfortunately 3 of them are my friends and i can tell you a HUGE number of them aren't voters -- so your money is going down the tubes. Latest polling again has Antonio with an 81% approval rating in his district, 13% disapprove and 6% no opinion. With the threshold being 15% of the voters in the district needing to sign the recall form -- it ain't going to happen. As for the numbers game -- you guys need to be closer to 3,500 as of today to reach 12,000. You are well short of that goal - recall ain't going to happen.
Ok now that i've put that to rest i'd like to move on to the real target – This Mayor.
Now we know why Yolanda Fuentes was missing in action during her 2nd week on the job as a commissioner she was orchestrating the LA County Central Committee vote (which they lost) and the LA County Young Democrats (which they lost) even with the expose the Daily News and the Boi From Troy did we now know whats going on in the campaign for Jim Hahn - complete lack of a campaign. While Antonio has well over 400 folks walking and talking on Sat (LA Times was only there for the morning part, not the rest of the day where more people joined in) Hahn was where again? Oh yeah having to punish his staffers for being IIIIIIDIOTS.
Today's Daily News regarding the SOHA debate: Some 500 people turned out for the event, which featured all of the major candidates except Hahn, sparking complaints from those in attendance about being snubbed.
"There are so many debates and just so much time," said Hahn campaign consultant Kam Kuwata. "The mayor was not snubbing the Sherman Oaks homeowners or anyone in the Valley."
However i can tell you right now -- the invite for the SOHA debate was months and months ago -- in fact Richard Close was heard saying the mayor can confirm with us 5 mins before the debate starts and that will be fine. What we learned however was this....Hahn had been invited last September but told organizers he could not attend.
Villaraigosa's campaign said the mayor was making an appearance before the Northeast Democratic Club in Highland Park where he was seeking to win the group's backing. However, the campaign said the club backed Villaraigosa after hearing a four-minute speech from his wife, Corina.
--That was from Jan 20th Daily News.
This should be a fun week – Hahn gives his state of the valley – always fun. LA Times will come out with their poll which will show the same thing we already know Hahn and Antonio in the top two positions – with Hertzberg ready to get into the 2nd place position by knocking out Hahn. And I am sure Hahn will do something dumb to prove once again he does not deserve a 2nd term.
Lastly, as for the Daily News today regarding the padding of the PR bills – I personally see no scandal there – I don’t see the Fleishman stuff being that criminal, I am waiting for the Troy Edwards – LAX, DWP and Ports of LA indictments.
P.S. Cooley hates Hahn.
Blog away dum-dums
If someone has that email, you can maybe look to see if the IP address is in the header and find out if it came from a city computer.
Its amusing to read the Hahn apologists on here. People believe in Hertzberg, people believe in Antonio, Richard has his fans and there are folks who are excited about Bernie. No one believes in Hahn the man. His defenders are trying to keep their jobs or keep out of jail. Sad.
The bottom line is Hahn has to go. Period.
Its amusing to see the bloggers have got to him. Poor Poopy!
Mandy Olvera is the one who sent that email on the city computer supposedly. Unless she ran home and ran back. Maybe she thought by using a hotmail address she was kosher. What an idiot. These are the type of people we have working for the taxpayers.
Question - is Mandy hot?
Mandy is responsible for searching the backgrounds of potential commission appointees.
http://www.lacity.org/ita/urldoc2470.pdf
I for one find it scary that someone so careless has access to numerous people's personal information. If I was an anti-Hahn commissioner, I might be scared.
Meat is no doubt on Antonio's payroll. Interesting that neighborhood watches in the most violent part of the city (South LA) are listed on the LAPD website. Meat says an "increase" but that doesn't mean the 80 NEW CREATED ones Antonio is bragging about. Seems their backing down from the LIE of thenumber 80. The community thinks you and your boss are full of shit on this one. Word is your boss is devastated by NO Endorsements from the same people who endorsed last time round. Now why do you think they changed their minds? HMMMMMMMM Could it possib;y be they believe his butt will be recalled. Hey, we still have time to go. Antonio is sounding more and more like Gray Davis. He never saw it coming.
I want to know where MEAT is getting these so called poll numbers. If Antonio is so liked in his district why hasn't one single organization come out to support him? Cause they all know it's too political. When he he gets realled they all get burned.
Thank you for blogging on Mayor Sam's Sister City. Please leave your name, telephone, and some sort of identification along with your comments so that we can give a rat's ass about your comments, which are so strong that you fail time and time again from providing any support to them. Thank you for blogging and please come again soon.
Just for you MEAT..today's LA Business Journal
http://www.labusinessjournal.com/article.asp?aID=42069974.2100436.1091584.3192521.8240851.249&aID2=83959
""Villaraigosa’s Luster Has Dimmed Second Time Around"""......Now, as the 52-year-old former Assembly speaker-turned-city councilman nears the final stretch of his second try for mayor, even his closest friends and allies say the magic is missing. The crowds are smaller, the endorsements fewer, and – most of all – the candidate lacks the charm that so captivated Angelenos four years ago.
Mayor Sam and Chief Parker why didn't you post this?
I find it hypocritical that some members of a democratic club like LACYD voiced opposition against same-day voter registration, a core party issue that Dems have been pressing to pass nationally. The fact is that these mayoral candidates found the endorsement valuable enough to fight for.
FROM MEAT:
Our we all idiots here today? Ummm let's see 4 years ago Antonio ran for Mayor about a year out from election day. This time he is the LAST to enter the race. What dod you think the other campaign were doing before Antonio entered the campaign? Making balloons? These other campaigns were locking up endorsements and supporters just like they are supposed to. Now if you can do basic math this tells you there are less organizations and institutions to go after -- needless to say folks are weary of politics in general after this Presidential campaign. Let's never forget that we are going up against an INCUMBENT, there is an advantage that comes with that office, fortunately for the other campaigns this administration doesn't use it correctly with its arrogence and gets caught over and over again.
I think if i were any of the other campaigns -- I'd love the problems Antonio is having -- #1 in raising money since he entered the race and #1 in the polls. Yeah real trouble brewing right guys? Of course there is, you guys are wackos and can't see the forest through the trees.
blog away dum-dums.
It took you how long to come up with that lame ass excuse, FAT, about not naming Neighborhood Watch groups? I have been waiting almost 4 weeks to hear that one. You are SLOW, FAT! Oh, and now you name a couple of bar owners who YOU say are giving to the recall. Got any proof you'd like to share with us on that one FAT? But I am going to save you another 4 weeks of trying to come up with an EXCUSE for not providing any proof once again. Those guys you name are not contributing to the recall. No bar owner is giving money to the recall. In fact, everything you wrote about the recall is WRONG. And didn't I just read the spokesman for the Northeast Democrats say that Antonio's support in Northeast Los Angeles is "tenuous"? Do you know what that word means, FAT? Actually I give you another 4 weeks to come up with the answer to that! Do you realize Antonio and his people are just feeding you s**t hoping some will stick when you throw it out on this site, FAT. And I don't think they care that you look a complete idiot in the process. What a DUM-DUM you are.
The reason why the Mayor's staff/commissioners are attacking other candidates in this manner is because they can't face the fact that they are incapable of running a City and/or campaign in an ethical way. Every single appointed person is going to lose their job when their good old Mayor is defeated. And they deserve to lose their jobs. There is so much unethical stuff going down that it's disgusting to see it right before your eyes. Obviously the JH supporters/staff aren't looking at what's in the best interest of the city. They're just trying to save their ass. It's all self serving and it's sickening and they are using city resources to do it. Why else would they herd themselves (some in City vehicles), use city equipment and city time to prevent an endoresement at the LA Young Democrat meeting last Thursday. There is a lot at stake for them. Stupid people will get nowhere but in trouble. I'm sure Ethics is checking out this websit along with ITA and tracking all the posters that think they can get away with doing this on City time. Why don't you appointed/exempt folks try to get into the City by taking an entrance exam? City employees are sick and tired of seeing this bullshit. We have never seen crap like this in City hall, atleast not in my 30 years with the City. One more thing, the great thing about this site is that the employees know most of these folks are short timers because of term limits. This site has spread among the "regular" city employees like crazy and believe me, we are trying to convince every voter to vote for "anyone but Hahn". We are sick of the arrogance, the rudeness and immaturity by these folks. Thank goodness for term limits because a lot of us employees are looking forward to a new group of ethical folks to get the City back in shape. Remember "anyone but hahn".
Let's talk about who will be the next person to get indicted for fraud and/or corruption? Those exempt folks on the 3rd floor need to wake up and smell what's cookin', do their job and stop f#$%ing around. Make the city a better place. Your reputation is making all of us employees look real bad.
FROM MEAT:
Why do you keep calling me FAT? Do you know me? I know i've gained weight, but no where near being fat. Could i lose 5-10 pounds? Sure we all can.
As for the Antonio folks giving me stuff -- again i am not on the payroll, not for his mayor's race, his assembly, his city council, his current council office, never ever on those payrolls.
Do i support Antonio -- sure do. Are the recall folks going to get their sigs, sure aren't. Can i prove the bar owners - not yet because the financing statement isn't public, plus the recall folks are also asking for contribution $99 bucks or less so their names don't become public.
As for the northeast -- i suppose 70+% of the vote for his endorsement must mean his support his thin. As for the Eastside Dems, same organization that La Colective kids infiltrated just like Hahn did with LACYD to prevent an endorsement of Antonio. Not impressed, do not care. If i recall those kids came back and haunted Pacheco during his reelection campaign, to the point that they created fliers and protested outside his campaign office. You know what sign i liked the most, the one with the 4 yr old lil girl on her daddy's head with a sign asking Pacheco to pay her daddy. What a funny picture that was.
"pay my daddy" dum-dums
MEAT = ULYSESS IN ANTONIO'S OFFICE. It was confirmed at the volunteer mobilization event this past weekend. You can deny deny all you want Ulysess but we know who you are. And YES, you are on Antonio's payroll. Like Antonio you have that "little man syndrome."
I am calling you FAT because your posts have no substance to them, no MEAT to speak of. For weeks you have been telling readers of Mayor Sam about "sleazy" bar owners bankrolling the recall of Antonio. You promised to publish a list of the names of the "sleazy" bar owners. Then, after 3 or 4 weeks of nothing you name two bars that you say are contributing to the campaign. And, finally you ADMIT that you don't know who finances the recall. Why would anybody trust you anymore, FAT? Clearly FACTS and the TRUTH have no meaning for you. Antonio's claims are under the mircroscope for the first time in his political career. Neither Antonio nor his supporters are going to get a free ride anymore. That's why Antonio's position in Northeast LA is "tenuous". (The word used by an Antonio supporter, FAT!)
FROM MEAT:
Ok, Ok, i'll start running around my neighborhood in Los Feliz and try to lose that extra 10 pounds. Calm down buddy -- i am not Ulysses. But dum-dums can never be expected to read, so i don't expect you to change your mind.
As for facts that what i live for -- The facts are the LAPD has a policy of not releasing the names of Neighorhood watch groups for security purposes.
Facts are the recall campaign has about 1,800 sigs, FACTS are those numbers are below where they need to be, FACTS are this is funded by sleazy bar owners, FACTS are 3 of your paid signature gatherers are corrupting your numbers.
Believe me, or don't. I'd rather you not believe me.
As for the free ride, i suppose when bill mabie went after Antonio that was a free ride. Or when don perata was fighting Antonio for speakership maybe he gave Antonio a free ride as well. Or perhaps when Antonio first ran for mayor he got that free ride, a ride so free he came up short the first time against Hahn. I'd like to think that Pacheco and his supporters made Antonio pay for that council ride, but if you think it was free thats your opinion.
Personally i never thought Antonio got a free-ride, but hey you are an anonymous blogger so you're the expert right?
blog away you dum-dum.
Neither your physical appearance or real name concerns me FAT. I'm only interested in what you write. And for the most part your facts are mostly fiction. I think everybody on this site knows by now that you don't have any special insight, nor insider knowledge. You are just Antonio's mini-me of spin.
But how do your spin your way out of the statement by the spokesman of the Northeast Democrats that Antonio's support is "tenuous" in Northeast LA. That's pretty devasting, FAT!
FROM MEAT:
You got me!! I can't spin out of that one, i can say however that my definition of tenuous isn't 70 plus percent of the vote. I mean good god man, if 70% is tenuous what is strong support? 99%?
Only Antonio Villaraigosa would get someone saying that 70% of the vote is tenuous -- he has that much support out there. I mean every POLL has him in 1st place.
blog away dum-dums -- especially the above poster who is truly the king or queen (gots to be fair) of dum-dums.
FAT? You are the Dum-Dum, you can't even read. It was a Villaraigosa supporter, the spokesman for the NEDC, writing that Villaraigosa's support is "tenuous"! And, FAT, Villaraigosa got 70% of the NEDC, a group of maybe 100 people, compared to 75000 registered voters in the 14th district alone. Why Antonio trusts you to represent him I'll never know! I suppose he can't get an intelligent person to fall for his BS. Keeping blogging away DUM-DUM.
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