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Sunday, January 14, 2007

Villaraigosa Says, "I Do" To Gang Czar Idea and Speaks on "Special Order 40"

People are going to claim the mayor's previous history as Assemblyman, ACLU activist and former "youth of the streets" will prevent him from going hard on gang violence and actually follow through on his plan to make gang activity reduction the City's number one goal, however I think the mayor is going to have to "go with the flow" and actually get serious about it, if for no other reason, his future political aspirations.

So although he might have preferred to keep it on the backburner, political pressure will keep him in check and on the accelerated treadmill in this area, I hope. He's in the political big leauges now, and knows he cannot move ahead, politcally unless their is "perceived" imporvement. In this segment of the interview aired on KABC TV 7, the mayor is aked why gang violence isn't considered "terrorism" and fought locally, the way we fight against terrorism overseas.

Then, the question many people have been waiting for, "Do you like the idea of a gang czar to co-ordinate (gang reduction) effort?" Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa's replied, "I like the idea of someone whose job it is to focus our resources in a comprehensive way, I do."

It's official, the mayor is officially engaged to a soon to be announced Gang Czar, I guess. (It's a beautiful ring, mayor!)

AND 790-KABC's KEVIN JAMES...I HOPE YOU'RE SITTING DOWN, I just posted, "Villariagosa on "Special Order 40". You WON'T be happy. And check out all his statistics!

Click here to get your own player.

And please read and comment on the "gang activity reduction" speech I would like the mayor to read on TV: www.zumadogg.blogspot.com


Blogger Walter Moore said:

Of course the mayor will support the appointment of a "czar." Why?

First of all, the proposal implies, erroneously, that it is not already the mayor's job to coordinate the various city agencies. We already have a "czar" position when it comes to getting agencies to work together to solve the city's problems: it's called "the mayor." Villaraigosa will be only to happy to act as though a new position needs to be created.

Second, the "Marshall Plan" line, along with the magical "gangs cost $2 billion per year," is simply the pre-rinse cycle for the brainwashing to follow: you, Mr. and Ms. Taxpayer, must now pay billions more in taxes to rebuild the city, for the children, for the future, to prevent gang violence. This "Marshall Plan" will be the pretext to distribute more of your money to other people.

If you REALLY want to fight gangs, how about starting with the simplest solution: more police. Put enough police in every neighborhood to catch, or better yet, deter gangs from committing crimes. When you catch and remove the criminals, you'll have left in place the law-abiding citizens, and will have created an environment in which people will, eventually, try opening new businesses.

January 14, 2007 2:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio had no choice especially in light of the $2 billion on gang violence. I wish the reporter would have asked what Antonio thought about that much money being spent without any concrete solutions. You're absolutely right Walter about more cops on the street. The clowncil needs to approve LAPD overtime and the mayor supports. The more cars on the streets will show these loser gang members they can't free reign the streets with their terror. The reporter also should have asked Antonio what he thought about gang injunctions that work. Baca has committed to keeping gang members who are part of a gang injunction in jail instead of releasing them so quickly.

January 14, 2007 2:41 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

Great point about the jail time.
The young people in L.A. learn one thing from the lack of discipline in our schools, and the lack of law enforcement on our streets: there are really no serious consequences for misconduct. None.
The odds of getting caught are small; of getting convicted, smaller still; and of staying in jail more than a fraction of your sentence, essentially nil.
This City doesn't need a Marshall Plan. It needs to focus on the basics, "law and order" being the operative term. We don't need any big new ideas or programs, we need to focus on the fundamentals of a civilized society.

January 14, 2007 2:53 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

I just listened to the Mayor's testy response about Special Order 40. It's worth hearing. I love his "reasoning," too! He says that the proportion of illegal aliens in gangs is no higher than the percentage of illegal aliens in the general population. (Actually, he uses the term "undocumented," but we know what that means.)

Interestingly, he does NOT state, much less guesstimate, what that percentage is. The figures I've run across for the inmate population indicate that something on the order of 25% of the criminals in our jails and prisons are illegal aliens. The percentage of the non-imprisoned population is presumably even higher, insofar as we have seen illegal aliens flee to Mexico to avoid arrest (e.g., the murderer of Deputy Marsh).

Hence, rather than accepting an easy way to reduce gang crime by 25% -- i.e., by using deportation of those here illegally -- the Mayor, incensed at the very idea, would rather continue to subject our city's residents to crimes committed by the "undocumented." Does this give you some idea of the priorities here, people? His Number 1 priority -- ahead of public safety -- is to facilitate the continuing invasion of this city, state and nation by illegal aliens. Nothing must interfere with that flow.

January 14, 2007 4:08 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Here's what I find most intersting about the mayor's reasoning behind continued suport of Special Order 40:

The only reason he gives for supporting Special Order 40 is; that without it, people won't want to report crime to police for fear of immigration enforcement. He doesn't say repealing Special Order 40 WOULDN'T be helpful, or that it would be bad...Only that the people who are scared of bigger Federal Immigration issues would be scared to share information with the police (as if these people would be doing that anyway. And for these people who WOULD be scared to provide info to the police, as a result...That is not a good trade-off, if indeed you are against Special Order 40.

In other words Mayor V., if you like S.O. 40 because you like the spirit of what it is supposed to achieve, so say. Because to say you don't wanna repeal it because you're concerned that those in violation of Federal law won't come foward. Well then, you just sold me on repealing Special Order 40.

[This wasn't supposed to be a pro or con comment on Special Order 40 (because I need to read the whole thing, and look into the whole enchilada), merely a commentary on the logic. Ya feel me, dough AV?

January 14, 2007 4:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio can't oversee this gang czar. He's alredy proven to be a total failure and has stated he wants the gang czar out of his office. Dictatorship is what that is. Bratton can do the job but not with all the politics and south la crybabies having people like Parks, Perry, Weiss Ass down his throat questioning every move. These electeds want an open door policy on the Board of rights hearings. Fine. I found this posted on ex-liberal Hollywood that makes a great case if that happens. How many times has clowncil secretly met behind closed doors without the public? Can we all say Tienne Pierce!!!

...If LA politicians really believed in openness, they could open their doors right now. And while Chemerinsky's at it, maybe we should have all allegations of misconduct by lawyers, judges, and academics posted online and aired at public meetings so we can get a clear view of those groups as well. Openness is healthy in a democracy.

Holding board of rights hearings in secret serves no one's interest.
I agree with Chemerinsky, Erwin, Bratton, and everyone else concerned about openness. But let’s open all the doors and not just a selected few. And LA’s politicians don’t need to wait for legislation – they can start today.


January 14, 2007 4:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Nice to here from a phone message lefted at the "RED SPOT INSTITUTE", that "HIS POLLONESS" is in favor of a "GANG CZAR". 2:31 is right on with observations. I will add one, "HIS POLLONESS" needs to call out the one organization that is thee major inpediment to our police doing their job. That organization is none other than the A.C.L.U. I will heap loads of praise of "HIS POLLONESS" when he takes RAMONA to task for enpowering street gangs to challenge the work of our POLICE.


January 14, 2007 5:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Nice to here from a phone message lefted at the "RED SPOT INSTITUTE", that "HIS POLLONESS" is in favor of a "GANG CZAR". 2:31 is right on with observations. I will add one, "HIS POLLONESS" needs to call out the one organization that is thee major inpediment to our police doing their job. That organization is none other than the A.C.L.U. I will heap loads of praise of "HIS POLLONESS" when he takes RAMONA to task for enpowering street gangs to challenge the work of our POLICE.


January 14, 2007 5:01 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

Zuma --
To see what your position should be on Special Order 40, you need only consider your own sage comments about rent control. We should either enforce our repeal our nation's immigration laws. Special Order 40 does neither, and creates havoc as a result. The LAPD should enforce federal immigration law the same way it enforces federal laws on bank robbery, kidnapping, counterfeiting, etc. Requiring our police to "look the other way" is a terrible idea.

January 14, 2007 6:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I agree with the mayor on this one. Victims of crime, and I say victims, ought to have 14th amendment equal protection of the law regardless of their immigration status. that protection of due process is extended to everyone 'in' the country regardless of how they got here.
the federal courts have ruled on this. Many states in this country are starting to do the right thing, deport convicted felons upon release from jail. but fix the revolving door. thats step 1.
and it IS a federal issue, and this City needs to lobby washington to change things, but with the current political flood of mexican pollies, I don't see that lobby getting on the plane.

January 14, 2007 6:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LAPD can't even enforce the laws that are on the books now, what makes anyone think that special order 40 will all of a sudden end crime in L.A. . Dream on. Listen to a police scanner in the SFV. Crimes down my ass, LIL Billy Bratton and and his bogus crime stats are full of crap.

January 14, 2007 6:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

this is more important: Stripping away Villar’s self-justification about ‘relevant education,’ it becomes clear that the fight was a proxy power grab by militant Chicano organizations. Their goal: to turn an academic unit at a proud university into a mere ideological factory to support and undergird a drive for exclusive minority power accumulation.

Villar was ultimately successful in his fight for his vision for a relevant education. On July 19, 1974, the Daily Bruin announced in a brief notice that Professor Alvarez had resigned from his directorship following internal private deliberations with higher administration figures.

Villar’s goals, and the actions which made it possible, are instructive in understanding the man who desires to be the next mayor of Los Angeles. Not only did Villar himself harbor radical ambitions, he proved willing to destroy both an innocent man and a fellow Chicano by turning his staff, his students, and eventually, his employer, against him.

January 14, 2007 7:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

click my name for this amazing link to ucla archive. incredible insight into the AV mind when it comes to 'education'

January 14, 2007 7:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

so the mayor is a liar. he's always been against assimilation of mexicans into the american culture. so thats a possible reason for his lausd attempt-he wants to exert his 'influence' now in the schools like he did at UCLA.
he's trouble, and he only got elected because Hahn hired Bratton.
I came to AMERICA, apple pie, fonzie, big block chevs, and the English language. I love Fender, and Harleys and Venice free speech. I will fight to protect those things, not any Mexican standards. this is the fuckin USA, and I'm setting my allegiance to the dollar, and the flag, and the constitution and the language. anything else is really UN American. and UN acceptable.

January 14, 2007 7:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

it reminds me of that fee waiver event, I forget the name, but AV, rocky, garcetti, reyes, padilla, huizar and cardenas (and pseudo mexican Jan Perry) they all stood there on stage, but what amazed me was the Mexican consul general going berserk on stage with a Mexican flag. like patriotism is one thing, but for god sake, they all left mexico to come here, whats with all the mexican bravado? I don't get it. maybe I'm retarded. when was the last time you saw an Englishman, aussie, kiwi, german, frenchman or canadian wave their flag in this country? probably at the olympics right? exactly.
chants like 'si se puede' are actually a contradiction in terms in an english speaking country. how hard is it to learn 'yes, we can' ??
its a mark of respect to the country to learn little things like that. do you want america? or do you want an extension of mexico?
I want everyone to be American FIRST, like american african, or american korean, whatever. lets put america first, is that too much to ask?

January 14, 2007 8:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's always fun to see a bunch of yahoo nativists (including some converted immigrants) go ballistic about this stuff, all the while embracing anti-gang measures that are either irrelevant or which, as the new report so clearly shows, HAVEN'T WORKED OVER A 20-YEAR PERIOD!

So let's just throw more money at doing more of the same and blame illegals at the same time, right?

Great! This is why you guys are bloggers and will never be anything more. Keep chattering while the rest of us try to figure out a better way of addressing a real problem that involves a hell of a lot more than SO 40 and MAV's ego.

And, by the way, Villaraigosa voted against a bunch of idiotic, over-reaching GOP "my anti-crime gonads are bigger than yours" bills when he was a freshman Assemblyman which were introduced during the two years when Republicans had the majority and could force the Dems to vote for them out of political fear. Villaraigosa said, "I don't represent a district where anybody demands I play that game, so screw that," and rejected some of them. It hasn't got a darn thing to do with what he's willing to do now. He voted yes on plenty of crime bills even then. That's a matter of public record, but the critics who keep harping on it won't tell you that.

January 14, 2007 8:37 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

So "equal protection of the law," in your mind, means "not enforcing immigration laws?" No. That's not equal protection. That is creating a special class of people, namely, people who violate immigration laws, and making them exempt from the laws.

If I may borrow from "The Paper Chase:" "Take this dime, and use it to call your mother. Tell her you will never be a lawyer."

But it's okay. There are plenty of lawyers already.

January 14, 2007 9:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Strong evidence points to the probability that most gang members are illegal aliens. A 1997 L.A. Times three-part series on the 18th street gang stated that out of the membership estimated to be as high as 20,000, about 60% of them are illegal immigrants, according to a confidential report by the state Department of Justice.

January 14, 2007 10:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Your comments are inflammatory.

January 15, 2007 12:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma Dogg...

You are way off-base! First of all, Mecha Boy DID NOT say he wanted to appoint a "Gang tsar". He said: "I like the idea of SOME ONE whose job it is to focus our resources in a COMPREHENSIVE way...I do."

He is not talking about eliminating gangs...he is talking about spending money on such crap as "intervention, prevention, and suppression". The ONLY responsibility for a "Gang Tsar" is to ELIMINATE gangs! Not spending our tax dollars for the idiotic gang prevention programs.

He also said"Let's get something very clear....Most gangbangers are LEGAL CITIZENS!!" What a load of crapola!!! Every single report says gangs are over 60% ILLEGAL ALIENS! Don't insult our intelligence!


As far as Special Order 40 is concerned, did you know that Bratton has the AUTHORITY to unilaterally rescind Special Order 40????? He could end it today! But the little coward wants to keep his overpaid salary and he loves living in LA. He was fired by Mayor Guiliani, you know. He's was unemployed until he came to LA.

Mecha Boy said crime hasn't been this low since he was 3 years old! What a crock of shit! Gang crime is up far more than 14%, but non-gang crime is rampant....home invasions,car theft, ID theft, burglary, robbery, rape, etc. ]

Do we believe him, or our "lying eyes"????

****I'm surprise no one has mentioned the fact that Mecha Boy was practically incoherent during this interview. Didn't anyone notice that he could hardly articulate? He was speaking in slo motion and looked like he was drugged out. He could hardly stay awake, and his words were slurred. It was an embarrassment!

Zuma Dogg...Wise up! Look at the forest...not the trees. He is DESTROYING THIS CITY! He has done NOTHING constructive! Wake up, ZD!!!

January 15, 2007 7:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you have seen meida in the last few months most of the suspects have been illegal. The guy who shot 2 Long Beach officers was illegal and deported 6 times, the guy who bashed an innocent woman face with a rock 16 times was illegal, etc. They come here and drive with out license and insurance, buy fake documents, get aide, move in their families in apts. work with fake documents and yet clowncil comes out strongly to support them. When have you ever seen so many politicans come out to support anything but them? Antonio better get his act together cause people are tired of ilegals ruining our city. Ted Hayes was protesting with Minute Men at federal building Sat. because now they want to send 2 border patrol agents who killed an illegal drug lord. Wake up people!

January 15, 2007 7:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Check s*** out. If the influx of illegals and the Mexicanization of the city isn't behind what's going on with the LAUSD, then I don't know what is.

January 15, 2007 8:02 AM  

Blogger Archie Bunker said:

I have an idea to slow the Mexican/latino gang problem especially down around Harbor City.

When the LAPD arrests these thugs, they should circumcise and cut their balls off them without any anestetics, just tie them down, get the scapel and go to work. And the circumcision shouldn't look pretty, it should leave a deep scar.

Cutting the testicles will ensure that those thugs can't reproduce
bastard children to Los Angeles.

That scar will make them think of the errors of their ways and make them look "American" at the same time, enforcing the belief of assimilation into this country rather than jumping the border and making a mockery and criticizing of it.

January 15, 2007 8:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

As of 6/04 in Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

January 15, 2007 9:31 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

see, these are the numbers I want. fugitives. wow. and yes, big numbers. omg. talk about these tomorrow Bratton.
and so Mayor: address affordable housing, the schools will fix themselves when the parents aren't out 16 hrs a day commuting and working to pay the exorbitant rents.
and mayor? if that's your post earlier, I'm glad you recognize inflammatory comments.
ur parading around for show in the MLK parade, but ur blowing off an American-African (Michael Hunt) who has asked for help for 12 months to resolve the boardwalk issue, which has severely affected the livelihoods of yes American Africans. I could line up a dozen black men TODAY (stakeholders no less) directly discriminated against by this Venice boardwalk ordinance. and they're angry as hell at you.
you violate all manner of laws and constitutions when you sign in some of these ordinances. ur AB 1381 another case in point.
I have a federal judge hearing my preliminary injunction tomorrow, so we'll see. maybe I'll make that call to my mom, maybe not.
its very exciting.

January 15, 2007 9:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7:43do you have a video?

January 15, 2007 10:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


ex-Liberal in Hollywood
Retired LAPD officer (1980-2000) and Hollywood resident discusses local, national, and global politics. Clark has traveled or lived on every continent (except Antarctica) and served at US diplomatic missions in Asia and Central America during the 1970s.

LAPD's Latest Scheme: Gang Czar

Haven’t we learned ANYTHING yet?


January 15, 2007 10:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I also want to know how many home;less died over the weekend, froze to death downtown.
I called 3 months ago for some urgent temporary shelter to be built, as the winter loomed. now its hit, just ask the farmers how f*in cold it is.
these are real humanitarian issues.
no-one's gonna condemn you Mayor for helping the homeless get shelter in winter.
how much did we pay you in salary for all the time you wasted on LAUSD? give the appointed super a chance. an American African who can instil american value into the kids.
majority homeless downtown are also American African displaced by cost of living and job discrimination.
get downtown now and start 'bleeding ur knuckles' on that problem. thats conciliation. thats inclusion. thats non-partisan. thats public service.
developers pad your school takeover account with cash, while black vets die on the streets, abandoned. thats the truth.

January 15, 2007 10:18 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:



I probablyu shouldn't reveal my lateset strategy, but I don't want you to think I'm so naive.

Don't lose faith in ZD...I know what's up...Antonio has to say these things because of political pressure, even though if you believe all the opponents of the mayor feels it's all b.s.

So ZD is gonna play naive, and pretend that the mayor means what he says, and take his quotes from a little seen sunday morning news program, and put the mayors message out to the masses on mayor sam, radio and TV 35...they say repeat a lie enough and it become the truth. so if the mayor is lying about gangs being #1 priority and "I do" to gang cazr, and all that...ZD wants to repeat it publicly, BIG TIME, to keep the political pressure on the mayor to do what he says, and turn the lie into the truth. ya feel me dough.

Thanks for saying your part, too...I did my part, and you did your (in telling it in a little bit less of a columbo style.)

January 15, 2007 10:20 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Matt you should tell Mike Hunt to ask Villaraigosa how blacks are still in jail after he signed that letter to let off a drug kingpin Vignali? I'll tell you 17 and they are black. Most of the blacks don't even know that cause papers like LA Slimes never reported it.

There was a study out that says Los Angeles is the #1 homeless city. Ask Antonio what has he done for the people freezing out in the cold including women and children

January 15, 2007 11:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What has the Mayor done for Homeless Children? Would he keep his own children in the cold?

January 15, 2007 11:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What the f'k? What was Villar aigos on, what drug? He sounds so frikkin incoherent and incompetent.

January 15, 2007 11:40 AM  

Blogger Archie Bunker said:

Well I warned you didn't I.

This is what you get with Antonio Beaneraigosa. He's a Riordan-Broad puppet that was a high school dropout with a 1.4 GPA and failed the bar 4 times.

But people forgive him because he can dream and he has a vision!

I say, big deal! So does a pimp, Instead this "pimp" will rape and whore this city out to the highest campaign contributor.

January 15, 2007 1:25 PM  

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