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Wednesday, September 01, 2010

Boxer and Fiorina Set for Debate

From Politics Now
By Ben Demers on August 27, 2010 12:59 PM

Just days after a poll showed that the California U.S. Senate race is practically a dead heat, Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer and Republican Carly Fiorina on Sept. 1 will have what could be their only debate before Election Day on Nov. 2.

The debate will be from 7 to 8 p.m. at St. Mary's College in Moraga. The moderator will be Randy Shandobil, political editor at KTVU Channel 2 News in Oakland.

Locally, the debate will air on Channell 11 KTTV.

Results of a Rasmussen Reports telephone survey released Wednesday showed Boxer garnered 44 percent support, while Fiorina had 43 percent.

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Anonymous Anonymous said:

Boxer is going to kick ass!

September 01, 2010 12:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I can't wait to see if disrespectful Barbara Boxer will fly off the handle if the moderator calls her "ma'am."

That's the type of thing that people won't forget, even though it has nothing to do with her work as a Senator. For that reason alone, I wouldn't vote for her. But I won't vote for her because of her votes on healthcare, the stimulus, and the fact that given the state's debt, she hasn't brought in enough to help the legislature, which as you know is heavily Democratic.

September 01, 2010 3:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Joe B.,

Why not a whisper from you regarding O'bama having to acknowledge that George W. Bush is a patriot!

Did you vomit?

Did you ever see O'bama look stiffer than he did last night? He obviously doesn't want to be involved in foreign affairs, even though he said he would bring vicious dictators like Akmedinejad to the table.

On that note, how about that nuclear plant they're building in Iran?

I thought that was supposed to not happen when you talk with scum like Akmedinejad?

Where have you been on that Joe? I thought you were anti-nukes?

September 01, 2010 3:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

For anyone who supported the healthcare bill, he's what happened as a result.




September 01, 2010 3:12 AM  

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

Although I am no fan of Fiorina, I will probably hold my nose and vote for her. Because Barbara "Don't call me M'AM" Boxer is an arrogant entitled elitist...a typical limousine liberal who wants to dictate the lives of others.

I pray for Boxers defeat and permanent removal from public office.

September 01, 2010 7:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil, I normally agree with conservative positions, but you're a fucking idiot, do you know that?

The other day, you posted something in which you said you would NOT vote for Fiorina, and now you ARE?????

This is why people don't respect you. You flip flop like Bill Clinton. I hereby name you Clinton Jr. You're no friend to Conservatives because you can't take a position and run with it, NOR can you hold your nose, but shut your fucking mouth about it. If you're going to vote for the Republican, then DO IT and shut the fuck up. Do you want people to waver on this?

Do you REALLY want to run the risk of Boxer winning? If not, then shut the fuck up and vote.

September 01, 2010 8:02 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil's wishy-washiness is indicative of how he would be on City Council. We already have too much of that there now.

Phil has made plenty of obnoxious comments in city council's public comment period, deriding the cms for being wishy washy, but he has just shown that he is exactly like them.

September 01, 2010 8:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I like 3:07AM 's comments. That was right on.

Boxer thinks she is so much better than the rest of us and it shows. Hopefully she will lose this time. It should be a lively debate. Too bad there is only one debate scheduled.

September 01, 2010 8:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


What office are you going to run for after you losing the race against Tom LaBonge?

Congress again?

What's left that you haven't yet come in last for?

September 01, 2010 8:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jennerjohn is a kook.

Bluster with no substance.

PHIL: What is your campaign platform? Do you have any SPECIFIC positions? "I'm gonna arrest Antonio," which you don't have a HINT of authority to do, is childish and immature.

What is your PLATFORM?

September 01, 2010 8:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Thanks, Phil. It's good to know what a constant last place finisher thinks. Now go away and gamble.

September 01, 2010 8:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Nanny State suffers another loss! Plastic bag ban loses!

That being said, I'm a Republican who wants nothing to do with Phil Jennerjahn. He is for us what Jerry Brown is for the Democrats, except Phil is wildly unsuccessful.

Imagine that: a wildly unsuccessful Republican! It's unheard of!

September 01, 2010 8:21 AM  

Anonymous trojan2002 said:

Phil, what's wrong with Fiorina?

Is it she's more mainstream CA than right wing CA?

Unless she's totally unprepared for the debate, Fiorina will move 3-4% higher. She will show most of CA how mainstream she is.

Sorry right wingers... only a mainstream Repub. can win in CA because the CA GOP and all of it's sub chapters are filled with a bunch nuts.

September 01, 2010 9:08 AM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

Plastic bags loses? Wow. Signs of intelligent life in the legislature. That was a horrible solution; perhaps now we can go back and put a real answer in place.

September 01, 2010 10:14 AM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

Mostly because poor and middle class people would have been hurt the most so the Sierra Club types could gloat at their cocktail parties.

September 01, 2010 10:15 AM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

Mostly because poor and middle class people would have been hurt the most so the Sierra Club types could gloat at their cocktail parties.

September 01, 2010 10:15 AM  

Blogger Parque Esqueleto said:

My sure-fire prediction?

No one, anywhere in the media will refer to this one -- Boxer/Fiorina -- as a "beauty contest" election.

(I mean, just look at the pictures?). An these are their retouched "glamour" shots.

Dogfight? Yeah, maybe!

September 01, 2010 10:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Higby, speaking of the cocktail circuit, isn't that your cue to say that you went to some cockamamie KABC party?

"Speaking of plastic bags, I was talking with Doug McIntyre about this at KABC's xmas party! I get to over every year!"

September 01, 2010 10:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

We need better education about plastic bags, not outright banning.
Gil Cedillo the bill's sponsor also is the one who wanted a bill to prevent illegals from being "denied the right to drive without a driver license," giving them the "right" to drive potentially killing machines with no regulation. No license also means no insurance.

Then he was used by Clown Carmen to try and go around our asleep-at-the switch as usual city "leaders" and City Charter to get him powers to become the sole CA in the country to get Grand Jury authority. Cedillo got defeated on that one in the nick of time.

Clown Carmen DID get the Senate to pass a half-baked paparazzi law that Zine had wanted for a while.
(WHO did he use for that one?)

People should not throw their bags in the street or anywhere but recycling bins if they're not re-using them. Same as with plastic bottles-will they ban those too?

However I want the right to choose to accept a bag at the store or not. When I have enough stacked up I decline, and do use a cloth bag often. However NOT when I have meats, produce, eggs and milk and items which could run together or break and leave salmonella and other serious bacteria in the bag.

The health hazards of NO bags has not been thought out and cities like L A which want to ban them on their own will cause NEW problems, like they always do with their bans like with the no business with Arizona new ordinance. They do something "feel good" and instinctive, which gives them a chance to rant on with soundbites, to be PC and THEN get hit with the consequences.

Also, when a ban does go into place there will be last-minute hoarding that will hurt stores since the bags cost them money.

In some European countries like Spain they do charge a few cents per bag which is reasonable, about half the people I saw brought their own bags - a few bags is a dime each time, and adds up especially for the poor who NOW are most likely to throw them away without thinking, lacking environmental consideration. But if you need a bag that cost isn't prohibitive.

September 01, 2010 11:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

On more important news, former meth addict Jodie Sweetin from "Full House" had her second kid today.

September 01, 2010 11:02 AM  

Anonymous g said:


September 01, 2010 2:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Carly's a nut. Boxer is always lucky by running against nuts. I think once the public hears some of the kooky things Carly has done and her nutty positions, only the hard right wingers will vote for her........which ain't enough.

Oh well, hopefully we'll only get six more years of BoXer. Hopefully Hugh Hewitt will run then.

September 01, 2010 3:33 PM  

Anonymous trojan2002 said:

2:33, Sherman is a punk, that's what is up with him

I am in his district.

His district has the WORST constituent services.

I cross over and get services from Berman and McKeon, and they don't complain. Apparently, everyone knows Sherman is a punk.

The people in his district elect him mostly because they don't know better, and he gets money from the same folk that bribe spring street.

September 01, 2010 5:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Are you out of your mind? Brad Sherman has the BEST staff of all of our elected officials here in the middle north valley.

I don't know who you're dealing with? Cameron Smyth? You see his chief of staff around at events? Greig Smith? You think he has good staffers? Alex Padilla? What are your great dealings with him? Did you love Buck McKeon?

Who is better than the extremely efficient, yet always good-humored staff of Brad Sherman?

Go to his next town hall meeting and you'll be proven wrong. Which I might add is an awfully good model for ALL elected officials to do on a regular basis. You know, just kinda check in on those who elected them at a town hall meeting and not just at election time.

September 01, 2010 10:37 PM  

Anonymous go barbara go said:

Dear (anonymous Mayor Sam poster):

I just left the St. Mary's campus in Moraga after my debate with Carly Fiorina. And let me tell you something: I feel great!

Tonight's debate showed what a clear choice the people of California have in this election.

It's a choice between someone who's fighting for jobs, day in and day out, right here in America -- versus someone who, when she had her chance, laid off 30,000 employees and shipped jobs overseas.

It's a choice between someone who's working hard to see the words "Made in America" again -- versus someone who, during her time at HP, stamped "Made in China" and "Made in India" on her products.

On issue after issue -- creating jobs, defending a woman's right to choose, fighting climate change, protecting our beautiful coast, and so many other important issues -- the choice couldn't be clearer.

I feel great about how the debate went tonight because it gave the people of California a chance to see that clear choice for themselves.

I'm proud of my record of more than 1,000 accomplishments for the people of California, including the first federal after school program and improved veterans health care. I look forward to continuing to share my vision for the future with the voters over the next two months.

Before the debate started, knowing that all of you were standing with me gave me such a boost of confidence. Late this afternoon, Rose told me that we had already passed our initial ambitious goal of 10,000 individual donations in today's "100,000 Strong for Boxer" effort.

Thank you so much for standing with me, today and every day.
On to victory!

In friendship,

Barbara Boxer

September 01, 2010 10:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

10:43 BARF!

September 02, 2010 6:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Both sides showed what they support. There was no surprise there. But Carly did explain why she was pro life. And, she did explain why she was in favor of ending the death tax. She also said that Boxer did not help the farmers with much needed water when they needed it.

Each side supports their base. There were no real surprises. But we got to see each one as a real person. That was a good thing. And, it was a very good debate.

September 02, 2010 8:03 AM  

Blogger Valley Doll said:

trojan2002 said...
2:33, Sherman is a punk, that's what is up with him

I am in his district.

His district has the WORST constituent services.

I cross over and get services from Berman and McKeon, and they don't complain. Apparently, everyone knows Sherman is a punk.


O rly? Because I just cold walked into Brad Sherman's office a week ago, no appointment, nothin'... just something we wanted to talk to him about, and he wasn't in. So a staffer came out immediately with a note pad in hand and listened.

That's when Brad Sherman walked in, saw us in his lobby, thanked us for coming into the office and then walked back into his own office. He set down his briefcase and immediately walked out to sit with us and I cannot tell you how impressed I was with everyone in his office. They were extremely kind and caring and Brad was enormously attentive and very non-punkish both towards myself and my friend Carol Champommier, who was there as well.

We were there to talk with Brad about the shooting death of Carol's son Zac in Studio City.

Thanks Brad and everyone in your office for welcoming Carol and I and taking the time to sit and listen to us.

We'll always be so grateful for your kindness. And for being anything but a punk.


September 02, 2010 9:39 AM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

The debate was pretty lame. Both candidates performed poorly. The panelists were even worse. And the dopey questions from viewers were pointless. Though I did like the elderly Chinese man who asked Babs Boxer why she doesn't give someone else a term. But her answer was correct, you have that chance now.

September 02, 2010 10:12 AM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

V-Doll I probably don't agree with Brad Sherman on one thing but I do have to absolutely agree he is an excellent Congressman. Compared to that slug Berman Sherman at least has the balls to meet with public and put himself before the folks at Town Hall meetings and face their grillings. Kudos to Brad.

September 02, 2010 10:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If the race is this close, this late, then Boxer is in trouble.

Even if she's a 3-term incumbent.

I think a GOP landslide is coming.

September 02, 2010 11:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You can't call any bank for customer service and NOT get someone in India. CitiBank, Chase, all of them. Or most credit reporting agencies, anywhere.

Your credit's messed up by some mistake, you have to call someone in India and give them your Social and personal info and hope they don't steal or sell it. How about other types of tech support?

Fiorina's a nut and catty bitch, and was fired at HP, so it's hardly a shining reference. But outsourcing is hardly unique to HP.

September 03, 2010 5:31 AM  

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