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Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Will the Lincoln Heights Neighborhood Council vote to support Beer and Wine sales at the 7-11 Store on Broadway and Eastlake Ave.?

Message to the Executive Board and General Board Members of the Lincoln Heights Neighborhood Council, what show of leadership will you exhibit on the motion below, at this Thursday's meeting, in the basement of the Lincoln Heights Library, starting at 6:00 PM?

Will you force the 7-11 Corporate Office to keep their promise to the Lincoln Heights Community and vote yes on your motion, to deny them a license to add another choice for beer and wine sales near the likes of Gates Elementry, Lincoln High School, and Little Flower Pre-School? Will you show the community that you stand behind their collective voices that stated loud and clear that additional venues for the sale of alcohol, were unwanted, in this part of Lincoln Heights?

(f) Planning and Land Use
(1) Presentation by 7-11
(2) MOTION: The Lincoln Heights Neighborhood Council accepts the review of condition compliance submitted by the 711 at Eastlake and Broadway for a 24-hour convenience market.
(3) MOTION: The Lincoln Heights Neighborhood Council opposes the granting of any kind of alcoholic license for the 7-11 at Eastlake and Broadway.

Or, on the otherside of this issue, will you bow to the wishes of 7-11 and grant their request, hoping that the community is not fool by the verbaige posted on the agenda above? It is evident that some in the community have been bought off, errr, given thought to the plight of the Broadway and Eastlake Store Owners and want them to enhance or grow their sales, with the beer and wine option.

In my discussions with members of the LHNC, there are only five sure yes votes for Motion 3. It makes one wonder if the Lincoln Heights Chamber of Commerce and the Business Improvment District, is putting pressure on the LHNC to usurp the will of the Greater Lincoln Heights Community. But then if the store donates more material support to the Lincoln High School Football Program, that should override community concerns about additional alcohol sales.

.... and a special message to Area 4 Represenative Lou Calanche, just think if you vote no on Motion 3 and beer and wine sales are granted at this location, maybe they will reward your no vote with beer and wine donations for your next Legacy LA Fundraiser at the Hazard Park Armory? BTW, can you bring your permit to serve alcohol on Recreation and Parks Property to Thursday's meeting, so all can see you were following the rule of law, pertaining to alcohol use on public property?

See you there and remember board members of the LHNC, it was the 13-17 age demographics that got you all elected, right Vera?

Your thoughts..............

Scott Johnson in CD 14

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Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

Come on Red Spot. 7-11 selling beer and wine?
Is this really worth talking about?

Pensions are about to bust LA wide open.
Budget chaos coming soon.

August 31, 2010 7:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I have an idea. Maybe red spot can shake it up and write about something OTHER THAN CD14 OR LINCOLN HEIGHTS NEXT TIME!!!

August 31, 2010 7:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


"See your there"

August 31, 2010 7:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is top story on Mayor Sam???

August 31, 2010 8:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is why LA is going in the shitter: millions on top of millions being wasted downtown and the so-called "activists" in the town are worried about 7-11 selling BEER. I THOUGHT EVERY 7-11 ON PLANET EARTH SELLS BEER!?? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH LINCOLN HEIGHTS??????

August 31, 2010 8:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Such a myopic story is just what Council and their donors count on.

August 31, 2010 8:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

See Red Snot? MYOPIC.

I'd tell you to go look it up, but I realized that you don't know what a dictionary is.

September 01, 2010 3:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Here is a good compromise that we are trying out in Valley Glen. 7-11 gets the license. In return: 1) no singles are to be sold, 2) no liquor sales between 11:00 p.m. and 5:00 p.m., 3) 7-11 plays classical music just outside; this drives on-site drinkers crazy, 4) Council has the right to approve design and monuments if any, 5) 7-11s in the NC area need to be cleaned up. Also, have a couple of SLOs show up at the meeting. It tends to scare the 7-11 people. The deal is this 7-11's corporate strategy is to have more stores to get market share during these bad times. So it's the Council's job to get what they can get.

September 01, 2010 5:40 AM  

Blogger kayojon said:

But this is the "real issue". The will of the people cast aside for the greed of corporate interests. All important things are local.

September 01, 2010 7:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I say give the blue collar and illegal filth all the beer and corn chips and cheap cheesedogs that can clog into their veins. It's a free country.

September 01, 2010 7:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The city should not give a liquor license to that store. It will become the new liquor store just like the 7-11 on North Figueroa. People just go there to buy liquor and that's it.

This area does not need another liquor store.

September 01, 2010 8:11 AM  

Anonymous Frank said:

Looks like the whole trailer park is in favor of beer and jerky! Is Jethro and his buddies using the community computer in the rec room…again?

September 01, 2010 8:33 AM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

If Prop 19 passes will they be able to sell pot?

Unbelievable. This is the same as the Hamburger Jan Plan.

I love these liberal politicians who say that poor minority people are too stupid to take care of themselves and not overindulge in hamburgers or beer. Hence Big Nanny Government has to take care of them.

What's next? You going to wipe their asses for them?

September 01, 2010 10:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Scott, now that you're a BIG WIG on the LA32 NC, you need to understand one of the cardinal concepts of the NC system -- LOCAL control.

Neighborhood councils were create to allow the people with stakes in THAT community, to decide what's best, without OUTSIDE interference.

Go BACK to LA32 - which hasn't done sh*t to improve that community in years, other than hosting car shows - take care of your OWN back yard, and LEAVE Lincoln Heights to the PEOPLE THERE.

Never mind that you got more hole-in-the-wall booze hutches on Huntington Drive and Eastern Ave. than the next three NCs combine have in their whole area.

Clean up your OWN damn yard first, "neighbor". If the people next door want to put 50 PINK FLAMINGOS out, tough darts!

-- (Not from LA32 or Lincoln Heights)

Note: The letter "d" was intentionally left off the end of several words, so "Re Spot" coul understan .

September 01, 2010 10:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If prop 19 passes or not, there's still the federal law.

According to the city attorney's most recent comment on this, "It's still illegal to sell marijuana."

September 01, 2010 11:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That's pretty funny, 10:39, but it looks like its more true than funny. Scott's LA32 neighborhood council also has a meeting this week. Their new board has been in office since May and based on the agenda, there are the only two new, critically important "action" items for them to vote on in service to their nearly 60,000 stakeholders:

"Motion that the LA-32 Neighborhood Council approve the purchase of office supplies, goods and computer software and accessories for the LA-32 Neighborhood Council Office in an amount not to exceed $2,000."

"Motion that the LA-32 Neighborhood Council approve refreshments for the LA-32 Neighborhood Council General Board Meetings as follows: the purchase of a coffee pot, hot water pot, bio-degradable and/or recyclable paper goods and utensils, coffee, tea, and related supplies in an amount not to exceed $700; as well as water, cookies, and / or other refreshment and snack items in an amount
not to exceed $50 for each meeting."

Lincoln Heights, a much smaller community, is having a public forum to discuss the 7-11 issue with its stakeholders. What critical issues is Red Spot's NC giving its stakeholders a forum to discuss this month?

... office supplies for board memebrs and what kind of COOKIES to serve at its future meetings.

(Hey, why not just hire Phil J. as a "refreshments consultant"? He has some history of reporting that important infomation here, as I recall).

September 01, 2010 12:17 PM  

Anonymous g said:


September 01, 2010 2:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You should attend Lincoln Heights Neighborhood Council meetings in the basement of the Lincoln Heights library on the 1st and 3rd Thursday of each month at 6 p.m. They must spend $500 on food for each meeting. They have entire meals! Spending money to feed themselves is a priority.

September 02, 2010 8:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm constantly amazed at the immaturity level of the haters against Red Spot on this blog. THese are the bad parenting kids who have low self esteem and most likely have never lifted a finger to do something good for their community. This alcohol issue is a big one. Given Lincoln Heights has some of the most dangerous gangs, the 7-11 is close to schools and there's enough liquor stores in miniority communities. I say fight it because in other areas they residents have won. Its so damn obvious the haters posting are the council staffers told and berrated to keep tabs on this blog for negative articles.

September 02, 2010 9:56 AM  

Anonymous Kim Thompson said:

On Monday, I had to order food for our NC meeting. They last from 6:30 PM - 9:30 PM so both board members and stakeholders who are coming straight from work need food. It keeps them less cranky and there is nothing wrong with feeding people.

I'm counting what I spent. Do I sound like Phil? I don't know what he's ever said about food at events.

So I don't think this sounds like taxpayer money spent badly. The stakeholders were all eating.

I got a tray of sandwiches, a tray of vegetables and dip, a try of cookies and 2 pizzas. I spent about $75 on food. Our stakeholders need food. I've seen taxpayer money spent on way worse.

September 03, 2010 1:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I am an active member of a central city-area neighborhood council. I
made an effort to attend this Lincoln Heights Neighborhood Council meeting, based on all of the press that it received from this blog, in the days leading up to this meeting.

It was quite interesting, indeed. The motion to oppose received only one vote, and it's now going back to the Land Use Committee for further consideration. This brings up the question: how did this motion make it out of the Land Use Committee with a positive vote in the first place, if it only wound up getting one vote from the full board?

There are a couple of things that I noticed about how this neighborhood council operates, which are quite different from the one where I'm deeply

First, the NC feeds people. This is good. A lot of people go there right after work, particularly with the unreal start-time of 6:00pm...and it's great that the NC takes care of these stakeholders. Our NC can learn
from this.

Second, I found it rather interesting that the stakeholders are rather involved in a give-and-take with board members, in public comment and
even further during the meeting. We've always been told that public
comment on an item needs to be just that--public comment--with no
interaction, give-and-take, between board members and the stakeholders allowed during this period. How this NC can manage with high levels of interaction like that,is beyond me. At our NC, people get their 3 minutes, and that's it.

Third, I noticed that one board member was actively videotaping the proceedings. Is this for use on the NC's website, or for the board member's personal use? What does one make of a board member that videotapes meetings...that could conceivably wind up on youtube, etc,etc?

Finally, the meeting had to adjourn by 8pm, because the library was closing, and about a third of the agenda was blown out as a result. Our NC could not function under those conditions, however we only meet once
a month, not twice, like Lincoln Heights NC does.


September 03, 2010 10:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You know sometimes what a Neighborhood Council does in one location does not make it right.

If we allow our governing bodies to take away our rights to know, then all we will have is another City of Bell situation.

The following could help you understand why the Lincoln Heights Community demands answers when something that could harm the community is pictured as a benefit.

It’s better to be well informed and free, than well fed before your rights are slaughtered:

Preamble from the Brown Act:

54950 Ch. 1

Public commissions, boards, councils and other legislative bodies of local government agencies exist to aid in the conduct of the people’s business. The people do not yield their sovereignty to the bodies that serve them. The people insist on remaining informed to retain control over the legislative bodies they have created.

September 06, 2010 10:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

In the end, the pressure that LHNC bowed to was that of it's own community members, who......(wait for it).....WANTED 7-11! Why? Because a dark empty parking lot is way worse than a 7-11 selling six packs.

September 17, 2010 10:55 AM  

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