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Friday, November 13, 2009

Is Paul Krekorian a Conspiracy Theorist??

Or does he just hate Turkish people??

CD 2 voters....Read this letter (link to above) and decide for yourself.


Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil, you can't be serious? This is how you've chosen to bottlecap Joe B's story? What a loser.

November 13, 2009 5:35 PM  

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

Joe B. is the king of bottlecapping!!

He'll bottlecap this in the next hour.

His story was up all day.

November 13, 2009 5:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is Phil a bottlecapping bloviating buffoon? For a guy that doesn't even
live in CD2, you should really just STFU.

November 13, 2009 5:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

what part of it is conspiracy theory? the articles show that the turks were deliberately targeting krekorian because of his work in genocide recognition.

essel's folks are also out there misinforming voters, saying they are from the city and that krekorian isn't on the ballot. if you lived in the district you would know that.

November 13, 2009 5:44 PM  

Blogger Joe B. said:

Phil, you'll say anything to smear anyone that doesn't agree with you.
I didn't even know what bottlecapping was until a few days ago. I have never done it, so cut the crap.

November 13, 2009 5:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil, like Chris, is getting desperate.This story is proof. If I was Chris I would fire Phil before he does any further damage to her campaign.

November 13, 2009 6:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't think Paul really wrote that part about people wanting to punish him. I think you just added that at the bottom, yourself, to make him look bad. Who would ever say something like that?

November 13, 2009 6:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Thank you,
Chris Essel

November 13, 2009 6:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This can not be a real letter. The ethnic race bating "PS" part is beneath even a Sacramento Politician.

Please tell me this is not from anyone one already in office. It is an insult to all voters no matter who they support.

November 13, 2009 6:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hmmm, if I wanted to win an election in CD2, who would I rather have in my corner, people of Armenian ancestry, or Turkish?

(This is EXACTLY why you failed the "mayor" math test, Jennerjahn).

November 13, 2009 6:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Its not a conspiracy if it is true.

Phil, your full of shit once again.

November 13, 2009 6:20 PM  

Blogger Red Spot in CD 14 said:


Do you remember the day you called me out for "bottlecapping" your post about Essel's penning her "real address" on Frank Sheftel's petition sheet??

If I remember correctly, That "Little Albert" post garnered 100+ comments.

So while I agree with you on most things political, you should respect the opinions of others who post here and stop acting like something that rhymes with "wussy".

.....and if I could tell you this in person, you would see that I mean business.

BTW, Krekorian is playing the ethnic card, something that an supposed front runner should stay away from.

November 13, 2009 6:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And the big deal is?

Have not Essel and Wendy been sending out e-mail after e-mail about how important it is to elect a "women" to be the next councilperson.

This is campaign 101, grow up.

November 13, 2009 6:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If she is dumb enough to do fundraisers with Genoicde deniers, don't you think her opponent was going to call her on it.

She is too stupid to be in this line of work.

November 13, 2009 6:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Essel has been playing the race card all over ST.

Her supporters keep bringing up the disaster which will befall CD2 if an "Armenian" is elected to this seat.

What goes around comes around.

November 13, 2009 6:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I've worked on a lot of campaigns in my life. The better part of your days are spent going through your lists of various "groups" of people to target as voters. It's all part of get out the vote and it's easy to see why Phil came in dead last. He's clueless as to how campaigns are run.

As an activist and campaign employee, I've had to deal with people who truly thought that the way to win elections was to sit and discuss the issues with me. Nice and all, but that is better left for your time off because while you're in the office, you need to target the "groups", perfect your message and push it out.

Over and over and quickly. That and campaign contributions is how you win elections.

November 13, 2009 6:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

For Phil.
To the tune of Britney Spears' "Womanizer".

Where you from, how's it going?
I know you don't Gotta clue, what youre doing?
You can play brand new to all the other hicks out there
But I know what you are, what you are, cry-baby

Look at you
Gettin' more than just last place
Baby, you
are the joke of the town wassup?
Fakin' like a good one, but I call 'em like I see 'em
I know what you are, what you are, baby

You're a bottlecapper
Oh bottlecapper
Oh You're a bottlecapper Baby
You, You You Are
You, You You Are
bottlecapper, bottlecapper, bottlecapper

November 13, 2009 6:39 PM  

Anonymous Chris Essel said:

I need to see you in my office first thing in the morning!

Your boss,
Chris Essel

November 13, 2009 6:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Paul's comments at the bottom of the letter is a strategy for someone who feels they are losing.

November 13, 2009 6:50 PM  

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

Red Spot,

I am always courteous about not stepping on the stories of others. If I see a new post, I let it be.

The blog should change every 8 hours or so just to keep it fresh, I think. Joe B's story was up all day.

The only time I have bottlecapped is by accident when the time/date stamp on a long story I wrote ends up squeezing someone else out that just posted recently - but that I hadn't seen yet.

I have often felt that Joe B bottlecaps my stories based on political ideology. This story, because it is negative about Krekorian using his own words...will not last on top for 12 hours... I guarantee that!

So I'm not being petty.
I'm as right as the rain.

And yes.. Krekorian calling out people because of their ethnicity comes dangerously close to being racism, but you won't hear the liberals here address that issue at all.

oh...and ....

Anon @ 6:39 PM.

That was actually kind of clever.
I'll give you credit for a good slam on me.

November 13, 2009 7:14 PM  

Blogger Joe B. said:

Really, Phil? Please show me when I have done that. Thank you.

November 13, 2009 7:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don't take money from Germans because of the holocaust.

Don't take money from Catholics because of the Spanish Inquisition.

Don't take money from Italians because of Mussolini.

Don't take money from Japanese, because of Pearl Harbor.

Are you fucking kidding me Krekorian? This is outrageous.

November 13, 2009 7:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And, here's "Campaign" 102.

Secure and turnout the base.

If you fail that, you lose.

Ask John McCain, John Kerry, and Al Gore.

Call it whatever you want, Paul K. is making sure his base is there.

November 13, 2009 7:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Excuse me. Let's not forget what these Turkish and Azeri groups stood for who did a fundraiser for E$$el. They were Armenian genocide deniers. Explain why those in Beverly Hills, well outside CD2, care about this election? They are the ones playing the ethnic card as has E$$el all along. Why shouldn't Krekorian reach out to the Armenians? E$$el certainly won't represent them anymore than she will the rest of us. E$$el is a bought and paid for downtown insider - with special interest money and tons of independent expenditure money from unions.

And Jennerjerkoff is, as usual, way off base.

November 13, 2009 8:08 PM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:


Phil did you not eat your wheaties today?

And Red Spot calling someone a Sal Bonpensiero who is not Jose Huizar - unheard of! Phil must have really gone off the deep end for that!

Anyway Phil I know you support your coffee girl Essel but this is silly. I don't see what Krekorian did as a racist and you know I'm not a liberal.

Come on Phil!

November 13, 2009 8:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil, I like you dude, but really- ALL campaigning is "conspiracy" positioning. The Dems conspire, the Repubs conspire- all God's chillen' conspire. And that's what they all try to prove.

Shit, Phil- YOU think the entire legislature and congress is conspirin'.

November 13, 2009 9:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil needs a vacation from Mayor Sam so he can go reflect on his stupidity.

November 13, 2009 9:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I would pay money to see Red Spot and Phil trade blows.

November 13, 2009 9:48 PM  

Anonymous Heather said:

Y'all are crazy.

November 13, 2009 9:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil would go to the ground as soon as Red growled at him. Then he would scream that the "Libruls" were after him.

November 13, 2009 9:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How much money did Essel raise at that Turkish fundraiser Krekorian is basing his entire campaign on?

November 13, 2009 10:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Michael, Joe B.

MAKE THIS HAPPEN!. Next Saturday. Sunland-Tujunga on Commerce, Red Spot vs. Phil Jennerjahn Title Bout $1,500 purse and the loser makes a contribution to Krekorian, everyone's a winner.

November 13, 2009 10:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And the story is?

November 13, 2009 11:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


November 13, 2009 11:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Please give Jennderdoodle better talking points.

November 13, 2009 11:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Paul is doing what any smart candidate would do, using the other person's mistakes to motivate his base.

He would be stupid not to do so.

November 13, 2009 11:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

November 13, 2009 10:38 PM
"How much money did Essel raise at that Turkish fundraiser Krekorian is basing his entire campaign on?"

Say what!! Show your bullshit proof that Krekorian has based his "entire campaign on" this Turkish fundraiser. Do you see it in his flyers, on his website, in his e-mails? No you dumbshit, it's in your imagination. Well, get used to it, Councilmember Krekorian. Ha, ha.

November 14, 2009 12:00 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I've got $700 on Phil. He's quick on his toes

November 14, 2009 12:00 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You guys need to chill this blog is all Krekorian and Phil makes one comment and you Anonymous sissies tag team him

November 14, 2009 12:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil, I have looked at past posts and cannot find a single instance of Joe B "bottlecapping" your posts.
Are you ready to apologize for your false charges?

November 14, 2009 12:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Everyone lighten up.

Krekorian so stupid he went to the dentist and asked for a bluetooth.


November 14, 2009 12:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Word is, Krekorian is opening a new field office in Sunland-Tujunga. To get there take the 210 North to the Slauson Cutoff. Get out of the car and cut off your slauson. Get back in the car and park in the rear.

November 14, 2009 12:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Krekorian is getting desperate; what's with his inability raise money in the Armenian community?

Do they see the same thing in him that everyone else sees? He's a professional loser.

Too bad. He's a nice enough guy, but his running for every office that comes open non-stop is really over the top.

We need less guys like this and more citizen candidates who step up and bring common sense to the job instead of a laundry list of politcal crap.

Vote for Essel and get common sense business sense represention, or vote for Krekorian and get some more Sacramento tax and spend representation.

Those are the choices folks.

November 14, 2009 5:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:52 A.M.- are you serious

John I guess you had another sleepless night.

Your really obsessed with the other guys fundraising.

If the guy can't fundraise, then how come he is out campaigning your Gal both on the phones and in the mail boxes?

November 14, 2009 7:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Get a life.

November 14, 2009 7:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

For the Blog Phil:

Dear Supervisor Yaroslavsky:

In the off-chance you check your e-mail, I'd like to bring to your attention a 4-page flyer I received this week that shows a picture of you with candidate for CD2 Chris Essel. This picture appears at the bottom of a page. It looks like an older picture of you because I know you have lost a lot of weight in recent years (you need to tell us how). Below the picture appears a caption that reads "For 20 years, Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky and Christine Essel have worked together to create new jobs and protect our quality of life."

The picture appears in the lower right hand corner of the back page of the flyer along side a picture of Chris with Controller Wendy Greuel and a picture of Chris with Mayor Richard Riordan. A list of endorsers appears above showing endorsements by a number of people including Wendy and Richard Riordan. However, your name does not appear. Supervisor Knabe's name appears as an endorser.

I am a little confused. Are you endorsing anyone in this Special Election? The flyer is quite confusing.

Please clarify your involvement in this Special Election.

Thank you


Phil, if you post this, I am sure that the Supervisor's Office will respond.

November 14, 2009 8:05 AM  

Blogger Joseph Mailander said:

"As a Permanent Absentee voter..."

"PS My opponent, Chris Essal, has been soliciting campaign funds from Turkish and Azeri leaders who want to punish me and set an example because of my effective advocacy for our community. They are making concerted efforts to suppress my support by confusing and misleading voters. If you get a call or a visit from anyone who tells you that you don't need to vote, or you can't vote in this election, please call our office immediately. Your vote is extremely important--don't let them interfere with your rights!"

I'm not fully understanding. The letter is to Permanent Absentee voters, like soldiers. But he speaks of "my effective advocacy for our community" which implies the Armenian community. There's a Permanent Absentee Voter Armenian community that he's targeting? Wow, that's some ambitious direct micromail segmenting.

November 14, 2009 8:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"He's a professional loser?"

really? is that the best you could do? are you still in elementary school?

November 14, 2009 8:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Got a good point Joseph, but all good campaigns are this detailed.

November 14, 2009 8:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


"Or does he just hate Turkish people??"

and you Phil, "do you just hate Armenians?"

November 14, 2009 8:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Essel build the platform, purchased the rope and Phil is complaining about why Krekorian is hanging her with it.

Only a poor campaign would hand the other side an issue like this.

November 14, 2009 8:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil is an enemy of the people.

November 14, 2009 8:36 AM  

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

Over half the posts are insults about me, while nobody mentions Paul Krekorian slandering an entire ethnic group with a pretty wide brush.

I guess the Paul supporters are not so interested in hearing those types of facts mentioned.

November 14, 2009 8:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"slandering an entire ethnic group with a pretty wide brush."

Jennerjahn definition of Genocide Deniers.

Phil you need a pretty wide brush for for mass murder apologists.

November 14, 2009 9:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This issues is helping Paul motivate his ethnic compatriots into voting.

If the Klan did a fundraiser for John McCain don't you think Obama would have used it to get out black voters?

So Phil I don't know why you keep bringing this up, its not helping your client.

November 14, 2009 9:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Essel was an idiot for doing this fundraiser with the Turks. Whatever she raised it is not worth the grief she is getting on the issue.

She should apologize, return the money and move on.

November 14, 2009 9:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The insults to YOU Phil are about your inability to be measured.

I've told you a hundred times to grow up. If and when you do, you'll eventually overcome the mistrust you've cultivated about yourself.

Seriously, you're running for Congress? With this type of behavior? What YOUR track record? Last place. Drop-out. And you have the nerve to critique others?

November 14, 2009 9:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Armenian community is a big problem and a big crime ring. I guess you are not allowed to mention anything like this. But it is a disgusting culture of greed and illegal activity. If this surprises you then you need to do your homework. I know it sounds bad to say this. The Armenian community is a culture centered around being a crime ring.

November 14, 2009 11:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Paul really went off the deep end with this one. Why would you publicly accuse some community of trying to punish you? Are you friggin crazy? He has quite the Jesus complex doesn't he. Or is it a Napolean complex. Probably a bit of both.

November 14, 2009 11:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Playing the Armenian persuction card is over the top. But then when your opponent is Shallman from the Sewer, sadly you have to counter punch for punch.

Since Shallman entered the scene L A politics is in the sewer.

Some of his clients are down there with him - like the Nooch - and they are meant for each other.

Some like Essel just get the crap rubbed all over them anyway, you can't play with that stuff and not have it get on you.

Wendy only won because she outspent her opponent 10:1 but even so, a nobody with no money like Suzy Evans came second over Nick, who'd gotten Wendy in such a panic she ran to D'Arcy and begged for $300,000 so he owns her and Essel. Sold out to the devil cheap and easy since Nick only had $30,000 total and Evans almost zero.
Wendy's only support in CD2 was from Sunland-Tujunga over HD but she's lost that since all their endorsements went to Tamar and Benson, now Krekorian. Wendy is as empty a vessel as Essel now.

November 14, 2009 12:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wendy Greuel is proving to be a massive disappointment as Controller. She cannot get 'control' over the ugly mess left behind by Rocky and Chick, and now wants to be fiscally irresponsible by making the City of LA pay $500k to Chick's lawyer for losing the case.
Wendy has hired Shallman to be her campaign advisor for her 2013 run for the Mayor's Office but her weakness and stupidity over trying to justify paying legal fees to the lawyer who lost the law suit is not going to help her credibility one bit.
The original dispute was whether Chick as Controller, could audit the City Attorney. That dispute ended when Judge Mooney said the Controller does not have that power. One of the new City Attorney's campaign promises was to allow an audit, and when Trutanich took office, he asked the new Controller (Wendy) to start the audit, and indeed that audit has started.
So why is Wendy showing us how stupid she is? Doesn't she realize the case is over, the audit has started and nobody understands why we need to pay a half a million dollars for nothing.

November 14, 2009 2:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:47 = as stupid and as much of a liar as all of FALSETanich's brain-dead corp of liars and idiots. FALSETanich swore up and down on all that's holy to uphold Chick and Woocher no matter how the ruling came down to get her support - Weiss had supported her right to audit but was trying to get her and Rocky to agree to mediation before they went to court, Trutanich gave her his blessing.

2:47, you hacks LOVED Chick and Doug McItyre until they pointed out that people, especially officials entrusted with stewardship of all those lawyers, shouldn't be liars and frauds, and shouldn't use the lawyers for their egomania.

What a low-down lie to claim that Woocher would be insane enough to take the case on for free, pro bono - he took it on with no money upfront on promise of being paid a fair amount when case was settled. Because Laura made one slip of the tongue somewhere, FALSETanooch and his flunky Bill Carter are using that to claim that a pro like Woocher would have ever agreed to work for FREE.

But that egotistical idiot Nooch won't pay him because of he's so ignorant of the law and arrogant, that he insists it would turn Chick and Woocher from "losers" into "winners," since the Nooch has some 3rd grade playground idea of the world. Woocher had offered to settle for as little as $100,000, possibly $80,000, but NutNooch is intent on driving up the costs knowing it hurts the city. But he has his primitive idea of what it means to "win" or "lose."

FALSETanooch won't let Greuel be represented in court, unless she agrees to a lawyer who reports to him, which the Judge says is nuts, or of his choosing outside the city, which the City Chief Financial Officer said was irresponsible -- it would cost a lot mroe than paying off Woocher.

Hey 2:47, what about the LATimes' latest editorial TODAY, telling the cowardly City Council to MAKE the Nooch settle, to act like his bosses which they are.

The Daily News wrote an editorial over a month ago chastisting the Nooch for putting his ego over the good of the city, in so many words.

Greuel may have her faults over issues, but fighting the imbecilic egomaniac we got as Shitty Attorney because of Shallman's lies isn't one of them.

November 14, 2009 5:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

John Smithian
1234Main St.
Anytown,CA. 90000

????? LOL
Obviously, entirely fabricated.

November 14, 2009 5:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil said, "This story, because it is negative about Krekorian using his own words...will not last on top for 12 hours... I guarantee that!

So I'm not being petty.
I'm as right as the rain."

Well genius, the story has now been up over 24 hours and no one has bottlecapped it like you did to Joe B yesterday. An apology is now in order.

November 14, 2009 6:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why would Phil apologize?

He wrote a half-true story about a man, but never corrected the story and vehemently refused to acknowledge he was wrong.



November 14, 2009 7:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What does it mean to bottle cap?

November 14, 2009 9:29 PM  

Blogger Joe B. said:

It means to post a new story so that the current lead story is pushed down on the blog. The further down the story goes, the less attention it receives.

November 14, 2009 9:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pray for Bottlecap.

November 14, 2009 10:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Put a bottlecap on phil's head to seal all that sand in his bottle.

November 14, 2009 10:38 PM  

Anonymous LouieG said:

I want Shallman, and Phil also, to know this...

We don't dislike Christine here. See? We dislike political machines running slipshod over our city.

And yes, Krekorian's got some of that too. But at least, that's sorta' like some so-called "vegetarians" who will still eat fish, nevertheless.

Paul's got less of a "face" than Essel. Like Branzino compared to Braciole. Capisce?

November 14, 2009 10:41 PM  

Anonymous New Rules said:

Getting "capped" doesn't mean getting shot anymore.

November 14, 2009 10:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A vote for Essel is a vote for more Greuel/Villaraigosa/Riordan.
We deserve better? I take my chances with Krekorian! We need Change! I'm sick of them.

November 14, 2009 11:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Thanks for the definition Mr. B

November 15, 2009 12:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:19PM = Lying asshole. Not a very good liar either.

Woocher pro bono? That's what Laura Chick said - so I guess she's the liar?

No, Lying Asshole says it's "Because Laura made one slip of the tongue somewhere." The stupid shit doesn't know where or when Laura made a "slip of the tongue," but she must have made it because it suits Lying Asshole to invent an excuse. Try telling the judge Laura made a "Slip of the tongue" and see where that gets you.

LA Times and Daily News are beginning to get it. Lying asshole still doesn't. The decision to dismiss the case or accept the judgment is not Trutanich's. It's the City Council's. Trutanich can only do what the City Council tell him to do when it comes to settling a case, and that''s a fact. That's why it's all closed session as anyone who understands the Charter can tell you. But lying asshole doesn't care to tell you the truth.

November 15, 2009 12:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil, your disgusting. Why don't you get real a job! You are not even a stake holder in District 2.
Shut up already, nobody cares what you have to say. And to think I considered voting for you! I will never even think of making that mistake again! Don't bother to run because I doubt anyone will vote for you. You're and idiot and a cry baby,

November 15, 2009 9:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The use of pejoratives to try to make a point in a discussion is viewed as a sign of the weakness of one's logic and position.

There was a person who used to post here that had to pervert everyone's name and make up pejoratives on everyone he didn't like.

After a while, we all grew weary of the sophomoric use of the pejoratives to describe anyone and everyone with whom he disagreed. Thankfully, that individual is no longer with us.

To: 5:19 P.M. Anon

May I suggest that you do make some valid points, but the message is obscured by the objectinal nature of the ad hominums.

Clean up your act, please, as you do have something valuable to say, but many of us will skip the read if you persist in this practice.

November 15, 2009 9:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Are there limits to Phil's idiocy?

This is not even a story.

November 15, 2009 10:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

to the FALSETanoch troll: of course we know "where laura chick allegedly made a tongue" that that REAL "lying scumbag" to use your terms and his flunky Bill Carter have seized on.

Clearly READ from an LATimes piece where Chick is quoted using the word "pro bono," at that council meeting they'd hoped to keep secret from us. But Woocher said then AND Chick did many, many times elsewhere that Chick's not a laywer and didn't understand the difference between "pro bono" and deferred compensation. Carter KNOWs that, and that a lawyer like Woocher would never work for FREE -
Anyone who's not a lying scumbag admits it - how DESPICABLE for not only the Nooch who'll "say and do anything" to get what he wants but also for Carter to keep repeating this despicably sneaky lie.

If a pissant two-bit lawyer from Long Beach does it to get a rapist off the hook, it's one thing, though detestable - but for a City Attorney AND his chief Deputy, who was 2nd in Command for Decades to the DA who behaves like he has unlimited power and no checks on him? Makes you realize how much they got away with "in secret."

On top of scads of lawyers and even presiding judges IN WRITING expressing shock at their behavior of circling the wagons to hide lies and mistakes, often which ruin people's lives, depriving victims of justice and worse, keeping innocents in jail.

Now of course that idiot Kevin James repeats it nightly as gospel as do the uneducated, nasty fools like you Mr. 12:07 a.m. FOR SHAME.

How SAD for Carter that after a long career doing Cooley's dirty work AND some probably decent stuff in relative obscurity, he's now been forced to take on trying to do the same for this amateur who can't understand the law or get past his primitive instincts.

Just shows that Carter and Cooley got away with this in darkness for decades - they gambled their puppet could do same but there's so much more attention on him than was on Cooley, even though the DA has so much more power. Shallman is Cooley's campaign manager too - they ALL played the same way.

By helping the Nooch with his dirty tricks and thuggery, Cooley and Carter (and Livesay) have unwittingly exposed their ow decades-long appalling behavior to the air above the dungeons in which they operate with impunity.

November 15, 2009 11:35 AM  

Anonymous Not Jack Weiss said:

Anonymous at 2:47PM asks: "So why is Wendy showing us how stupid she is? Doesn't she realize the case is over, the audit has started and nobody understands why we need to pay a half a million dollars for nothing."

The answer is obvious. Wendy is scared that Nuch might run against her for mayor in 2013. She's playing the "innocent bystander", in the hopes that some of the manure piles on Trutanich. It wouldn't surprise me if the one and only Anti-Nuch spinhole were actually a Greuel operative.

November 15, 2009 3:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:59 thinks that idiot LieTanuch is going to run for mayor? How out to lunch are his few diehard fans about how much of a buffoon he is to all? Besides everyone knows that his puppetmaster Cooley recruited him and groomed him to run for this job to learn the ropes about public office so he can run to replace HIM as DA.

The idea of this opportunistic IQ-challenged bully rising to an even higher level of incompetence is utterly impossible. He'll likely be recalled soon and he's up for an ever bigger long over-due slap on the head from the Council real soon.

November 15, 2009 7:56 PM  

Anonymous Not Jack Weiss said:

7:56 PM writes "3:59 thinks that idiot LieTanuch is going to run for mayor?"

Actually, we have already started collecting signatures. Trutanich for President. In addition to locations around the city we can be contacted by supporters and signers at funone@hotmail.com

November 15, 2009 8:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Republican community is a big problem and a big crime ring. I guess you are not allowed to mention anything like this. But it is a disgusting culture of greed and illegal activity. If this surprises you then you need to do your homework and follow the money. I know it sounds bad to say this. The Republican party is one centered around being a crime ring for developers and environmental rapists.

November 16, 2009 12:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Trutanich for mayor. Oh that is hilarious. Unless Jack Weiss is the only candidate who runs against him, there isn't a chance in hell that Carmen is capable of winning that election, much less being capable of the job duties.

And Wendy is no better. Laura Chick is the obvious candidate!

Laura Chick for Mayor 2013!!

November 16, 2009 12:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:43, Weiss was right in everything he said about Nuch and on the issues so he's looking pretty darned good about now, not one thing against him held up. He was railroaded by the Times and other media which regretted having gone so easy on Antonio when it turned out he barely won against a field of nobodies - so like Joe Mailander keeps saying, took it out on Weiss. When it comes to how he handled development, the quality of projects that emerged, the wisdom of Pico-Olympic vs. continued gridlock now, someone who'd have really worked FOR the social and economic issues people stand for instead of driving off businesses like AEG, messing with LAPD in ignorant ways like Nooch, giving the city sound consistent legal advice - all down the line. The SLAPPERs who united against him aren't looking so sharp now.
Those who think the mayor isn't that sharp on his own, more of a salesman than a thinker or detail man, should want someone he trusts to guide his administration. With Robin Kramer gone, even the Times realized too late, the mayor needs "a grownup in charge" he can trust. Carr is a nice guy and has few enemies, but little depth.

Chick for mayor, after she fell for Trutanich and supported him just because she wouldn't take the advice of the Council which Weiss agreed with, to let them find a way to mediate before she and Rocky got bogged down in court?

Of course Nuch lied to her to use her, like he did the medical pot people - but she should have known better. She also grandstanded on issues like the rape kits instead of giving others their earned due.

Ask Charlie Beck, who worked on the issues for years, worked out a solution pending full funding, when she suddenly "discovered" the problem.

Chick was beloved by the Nuch-Kevin James crowd ONLY because she was WRONG on Weiss and the DNA rape kit issue. As soon as she outed Nuch, they turned on her. She has no fan base left.

Anyway Wendy wouldn't let her come back to kick her out of that slot. Wendy's got her eye on the job, as do Eric and Perry, and Perry is a very dark horse. Eric's got big negatives as the density hawk and his smooth talk cuts both ways. Wendy would get slammed if she didn't stick out Controller for 2 terms, for job-hopping again, while Eric will be termed out, so he's got to run for something. Would he go to Sacramento before circling back?

November 16, 2009 1:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No, he won't. So if your theory is right and it is the most plausible one I've read yet, I would look toward Eric Garcetti as the next Mayor.

November 16, 2009 1:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

November 16, 2009 12:28 AM
wrote: "The Republican party is one centered around being a crime ring for developers and environmental rapists."

Perhaps, but the Democrats are no better. Theirs is a crime ring for unions and increased taxes (they call them rate hikes and penalties). Both parties protect their financial backers, whether or not laws are broken.

Both parties are just different sides of the same tarnished coin.

November 16, 2009 4:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To the fool that is 11:35 A.M. and attacked Bill Carter, perhaps you need to do a little homework.

Yes, Bill was a DDA for a while, from 1985 to 1992, only. Steve Cooley was first elected DA in 2000.

Bill had a distinguished career as an Assistant U.S. Attorney and later as counsel for the California EPA. He never worked for Cooley as the DA.

What's the matter with you guys?

Are like the mainstream media that Sarah Palin has to say "Quit making things up"?

Bill Carter is a stand up guy and a professional prosecutor.

Don't tell me you meant Curt Livesay, either, because Curt is also a professional and yes, he did work for Cooley, but he also worked for Van de Kamp, Reiner, Philibosian and Garcetti. He is a long time professional prosecutor who has come out of retirement and is instituting appropriate procedures in the City Attorney's office to bring them into the 21st century.

Grow up and stop whining; Nuch is doing the right thing and when he's done, we will have a functioning City Attorney's office, not the crap that Jimmy and Rocky ran.

November 16, 2009 7:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Police Political Union's ads are running on 790kabc and all over, but even they tout the endorsement of Wendy, themselves and all the b.s. of how she's an agent for good change but even they aren't dumb enough to push Nuch's endorsement.
While they spent almost a $MILLION Bucks on the Nooch just a few months ago. And we're supposed to listen to them this time? The cops are mad at their idiot leaders who throw good money after bad and want the Teamsters or someone who's in the tradition of Tim Sands. Weber and Repovich have managed to ruin their rep in mere months at a waste of millions.

November 16, 2009 8:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:28 AM wrote: "The Republican community is a big problem and a big crime ring. I guess you are not allowed to mention anything like this. But it is a disgusting culture of greed and illegal activity. If this surprises you then you need to do your homework and follow the money. I know it sounds bad to say this. The Republican party is one centered around being a crime ring for developers and environmental rapists."

Just like the Jews in Germany?


November 16, 2009 8:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What Curt Livesay has done as second banana to Steve Cooley IS very much a matter they'd rather have left in the dark. Ask Paul Lisker or Deborah Peagler just recently. On Lisker, the Times felt strongly enough to editorialize on how nasty Cooley and Livesay were to him, that after being exonerated for a crime he served many years for, they "kicked him to the curb on his way out' of jail. Because his turning out to be innocent made them look bad for having convicted him anyway and then hiding the evidence so no one would know.

Deborah Peagler is even worse of - a private law firm spent countless pro bono hours to free her, but too late. Peagler's dying and has only weeks to live after they took her healthy years from her, letting her rot in jail so as not to expose the knowing prosecutorial misconduct that left her there when they had evidence that would reduce her First to Involuntary manslaughter for abuse victims.

Just ask the judge who handled her case, who accused Curt and Cooley of prosecutorial misconduct and covering up in so many words. That's just two.

As for Carter, his continuing to insist that Nuch can renege on his sworn promise to Chick because she didn't understand the difference between "pro bono" and deferred compensation - he kept waving the Times interview, where her words were selected by someone else, as 'proof' - he showed for all to see that he will use a semantic trick to knowingly deceive the courts and public, do ANYTHING to shore up the Nooch and real boss Cooley.

You want more?

November 16, 2009 9:31 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Notice how Zine is no longer sticking like glue to Nuch? It was him and Nuch joined at the hip from a year before the election, to the Jackson events when they joined against AEG over that and billboards, Zine demanded the city get rid of Rocky's people and raid a consumer defense fund to do it, Zine insisted he has the right to hire the many private investigators so Nuch can loose then on his own colleagues and controller and above all, their ultimate wet dream, against the Mayor. Zine was in every photo op and followed him more slavishly than the Mayor does Beck.

Last time Zine was publicly against someone for Nuch was when Woocher presented his side against Carter, who was lying that Woocher had agreed to work for free. While other councilmembers advised settling so the fee wouldn't rise as nooch kept letigating, Zine glared at Woocher, "so your clock is still running!?!" like he was the scoundrel they're trying to paint him as - after urging him to fight for CHick with Nooch's full support.

WHERE IS ZINE NOW? Looking out for his own fat bald bod, I guess.

November 16, 2009 1:30 PM  

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