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Thursday, October 22, 2009

More on Essel and the Armenian Holocaust Deniers

So far, rather than come out and admit she made a mistake by attending and co-hosting a fundraiser with an organization who is on official record that the Armenian Holocaust did not happen, supporters of Chris Essel appear to be digging in their heels and at least on this blog are regurgitating bigoted propaganda claiming - against historical fact and the general consensus - that 1.5 million Armenian citizens were not slaughtered by the Ottoman Turkish government during the time of World War I.

Dr. Efraim Zuroff - one of the chief Nazi hunters for the Simon Wiesenthal Center (whose Museum of Tolerance acknowledges the Genocide) in Israel told the Jerusalem Post that its imperative Israel and the world's Jewry must acknowledge the historical basis for the Genocide despite the fact that Turkey is one of the few Islamic nations in the world that has good relations with the Jewish state.

A Simon Wiesenthal Center official told the Jerusalem Post in August, 2007 that the Armenian Genocide should be recognized as a historical fact despite "the political ramifications." We have "an obligation to tell the truth about historical events - even if they sometimes create certain problems for us,"said Dr. Efraim Zuroff, the chief Nazi hunter of the Wiesenthal Center.

Dr. Zuroff was joined by Morton Klein, the president of the Zionist Organization of America, who told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency last week that it is "imperative for Jews to acknowledge the truth of the Turkish genocide against Armenians, notwithstanding Turkey's relationship with Israel." He added: "It's high time for Turkey to acknowledge that truth of history and move on."

At worst, this is a confounding moral problem for Essel and at best an incredibly horrific decision made by her campaign team. The longer this sits out there without an explanation, apology and return of the funds (and more appropriately a donation of the funds to an organization such as the Armenian National Committee) Essel's campaign and viability - as well as her character - will remain seriously in question.

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45 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Lovely picture of Chris and the Mayor.

October 22, 2009 2:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

she's taller.

October 22, 2009 2:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Really what is left to say?
Big elephant in the room.
It's quiet...too quiet...
So how about them Dodgers..maybe not that...um Lakers season starts soon..

October 22, 2009 2:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Can Chris name any of the Supreme Court Justices?
Does she know the capital of the state of California?
Does she know when the war of 1812 was?
And um, does she know where Valley College or any CD2 landmark is?

Just ya know...trying to pull off the scabby bandaid and get to the heart of things...

October 22, 2009 2:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Out of all the candidates who ran, we've got the two with the dirtiest campaign managers going at each other having taken down the real locals with their slime. Afraid to say it but Krekorian has the most experience in being slimy: Chris wasn't a real movie executive just a community liaison who had to make "nice," she's in over her head.

Tamar must be glad she hasn't endorsed either of these bozos. Mary Benson probably won't ever.

October 22, 2009 3:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil,what about this HOLOCAUST DENYER?

Mahmoud Ahmedinejad does the same on the Jewish Holocaust!

Ess-hole and Mahmoud. What a couple! Throw in Antonio and you look like a retard backing her still.

October 22, 2009 3:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What the rule for write in candidates. I miss Pete and Tamar.

October 22, 2009 3:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:04, c'mon, you're the real bozo. Point to the things that Krekorian has done that are slimy. And show what his campaign manager has done during this campaign that is dirty. Nothing, nothing, nothing!

You could fill a book with the dirty campaigning of Essel, from lying, slanderous mailers to door-to-door foot soldiers who are misrepresenting who they represent and spreading more falsehoods about Krekorian. More ethics violations than you can count on all your fingers and toes. Remember, she was the one who said that three violations and you should not be allowed to run for public office again. So say goodbye and good riddance to Essel.

Tamar wasn't exactly pure either. Must be nice to look at the world through your rose-colored glasses. And as far as Benson, she needs to get out in the district a little more and see what the issues are outside of Sun Valley. Although, it won't make up for her deficiencies, smiling once in awhile wouldn't hurt either.

October 22, 2009 3:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Even Antonio is smart enough to avoid holocaust designers.

October 22, 2009 4:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mr. Higby:

It appears you believe only Armenian propoganda.

You should read the following site, it will inform you about what really happend.

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/

October 22, 2009 4:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Not to make light of a really serious subject, but what does the poster at 4 p.m. know?

What's a Holocaust "designer"?

This isn't exactly an area where feng shui comes into play much, is it?

"Oh man, those metal shower doors HAVE to go, they're just so drab and lifeless. And, can we please get a poison gas that's more eco-friendly?"

I mean, just because your KILLING people in large numbers doesn't mean you have to do it with so little ambiance.

October 22, 2009 4:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Chris Essel position on the "so called genocide" issue is the sensible position.

Unlike you Mr. Higby she is open minded to all sides of the debate.

October 22, 2009 4:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You don't know the Armenians very well, they try to control every country they settle in.

October 22, 2009 4:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Krekorian must be feeling the heat to pull the race card so earlly.

October 22, 2009 4:31 PM  

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

This storyline is ridiculous.

The winner of the CD 2 election should be the person who would be least likely to loot the City Treasury. That would be Essel.
She's already wealthy.

Higby and Krekorian supporters want to make it all about who received money from someone else who has the wrong type of opinion about something that happened 100 years ago in a different country.

Absolutely ridiculous.

I have a storyline coming out that will make most of you change your mind about Krekorian.

October 22, 2009 4:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Again, all of this has been orchestrated by Eric Hacopian.

I believe the Genocide is a historical fact. But until you address Hacopian's crimes, you don't have credibility to criticize Essel on this issue.

October 22, 2009 4:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I've held my tongue about you, until now, Jennerjahn, but now you're getting on my last nerve.

Politicians who are wealthy won't steal?

Elected officials with big wallets won't take bribes?

Is that what you really think? You should have held on tighter to the tailgate of that turnip truck you came into town on recently (and exactly what time last night WERE you born?)

Selecting quality public officials just got a LOT easier. Use the Jennerjahn method -- simply elect the richest person on the ticket, and they'll always walk the straight and narrow.

Man, you are just too damn dumb to tolerate.

As for your upcoming Expose' about Krekorian, how about you fact check this one, before you put it online. And by "fact check," I don't mean asking your initial gossip/source, "Are you sure?"

October 22, 2009 4:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil looks like an idiot, yet again.
This is becoming an almost daily occurrence.

October 22, 2009 4:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:29

Unlike the JEWS, right?


Can someone name me one group of people that's been transplanted somewhere else that doesn't try to "control" their environment, for their own benefit?

(If this one stumps you, channel Sitting Bull and Geronimo, and ask how those new "Americans" handled that "control" issue a couple centuries ago.)

If there are any peoples that don't , then they're probably extinct.

October 22, 2009 5:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Has Essel released a statement on this issue?

What is her position on the Armenian Genocide?

Does she agree with her genocide denier supporters?

October 22, 2009 5:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:32

"I have a storyline coming out that will make most of you change your mind about Krekorian."

I guess Phil must have gotten his daily instructions from Shallman.

What an idiot.

October 22, 2009 5:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:33

What the hell are Hacopian's crimes?

You post the same crap every day, back your statements with facts or just shut up.

Hacopian is a damn saint compared to most other consultants.

October 22, 2009 5:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:25 to 4:29

It is disgusting to hear your crap.

Your a bunch hateful fascists if you believe what your writing.

And these are the Essel suppoters?

October 22, 2009 5:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:09

I concur, I worked with him on Gloria Romero's race.

Eric is thought but fair and a real honest guy. I have never understood where all the hate against him from the MS bloggers comes from.

October 22, 2009 5:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good point Higby, but it is not Shallman style to admit that he made a mistake and move on.

He will over react and do something stupid that will hurt his client even more.

Just go ask Assemblyman Waldman.

October 22, 2009 5:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hacopian's crimes?

Thank you, 4:43! Never in my life have I laughed so hard! Blew milk through my nose and scared the dog.

October 22, 2009 5:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Every minute that goes by Essel's silence hurts her more and more.

October 22, 2009 5:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Higby:

Your a good man or a very righteous issue.

Don't be intimidated by the Essel thugs.

October 22, 2009 5:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Essel should return the blood money, apologize and put this behind her.

A distraction like this cant be helpful to her campaign.

October 22, 2009 5:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil - Please do not refer to "Storylines."
This is not a film or TV show - scripted or unscripted.
This is about real people's lives.
This is about the lives of the people of CD2 and the city.
This election is not joke worthy.
Let's be clear - this is about who is best suited to serve the people of this district.

October 22, 2009 5:50 PM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

Replace what the Essel supporters are saying about Armenians with JEWS and go back 70 years and you'll soon see what we were fighting a World War over.

October 22, 2009 5:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Shallman knows that Essel will get few if any Armenian votes.

By making this election about race, he is trying to bait Paul's people into constantly talking about Armenian issues.

He is hoping that will push all the conservative anti-Armenian-immigrant voters into Essel's camp.

It sounds risky, but it might be the only move he has given his bad hand.

October 22, 2009 6:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

HIGBY WHERE IS JENNERJANE'S APOLOGY TO THAT GUY WHOSE REPUTATION HE TRIED TO KILL?

CAN YOU BE SURE THAT PHIL APOLOGIZES INSTEAD OF JUST "CLARIFYING"?

THAT'S ALL HE SAID HE WOULD DO. BUT YOU SHOULD FORCE HIM TO APOLOGIZE.

October 22, 2009 6:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Give the devil his due.

Hacopian play's his hand well on this issue.

Get your opponent into a free fire zone, with other people doing all the firing.

October 22, 2009 6:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

PHIL,

THIS IS NOT ANCIENT HISTORY!

THE ARMENIANS ARE MURDERING MY HAPPY LIFE IN GLENDALE EVERY DAMN DAY!

October 22, 2009 6:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil's vehement defense of Essel on this issue leads me believe that he himself is a genocide denier. Either that or Essel promised him an endorsement in his...(struggling to hold back laughter)...run for congress. The thing is I don't think even Essel is that moronic.

October 22, 2009 6:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Higby:

I think you should investigate Hacopian's crimes.

After that you should look to see who really did 9-11.

Then you must investigate to see if President Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Then find out who really sunk the Titanic.

And if JFK was abducted by aliens.

After you do all that, then you can criticize Essel.

October 22, 2009 6:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I am sure Essel's team has a secret plan to get out of this. Don't underestimate Shallman and crew.

October 22, 2009 6:51 PM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

Still no word from Essel.

October 22, 2009 8:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There will be no word from Essel.

They will try to distract people with some off the wall attack on Krekorian.

This women has no integrity.

October 22, 2009 9:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Higby:

You keep asking Essel to take a position on the Armenian Genocide.

What about asking Jennerjahn? He sounds like a denialist to me.

October 22, 2009 9:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think your all in for a surprise.

The Essel folks are talking about a secret revelation that will end this campaign very quickly.

October 22, 2009 9:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:51

Does Essel's secret plan include V2 rockets.

October 22, 2009 9:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Secret plan my butt.

The only secret in the Essel campaign is how Shallman is ripping Essel off.
And even that is only a secret to Essel.

October 22, 2009 9:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't care about secret plans, when is Essel going to tell us her position on the Genocide.

October 22, 2009 9:40 PM  

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