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Sunday, June 29, 2008

Report from the "Rally In The Valley"

It was a packed room that greeted the Shaw family, Kevin James and Walter Moore yesterday in the Shoshone Room at Cal State Northridge. The "Rally in the Valley" brought out an enthusiastic crowd eager to hear from Walter, and ready to sign petitions for Jamiel's Law.

It was indeed, quite the rally... the Shaw family receiving standing ovations twice; Walter Moore For Mayor bumper stickers and campaign flyers being scooped up faster than organizers could set them out; Jas' Aunt Althea (the blooming photographer in the family) taking pictures of the crowd (and one of yours truly) and an excitement and energy in the room which was tangible and infectious at times. I was pleased to be able to meet and speak with Jamiel Sr., as well as Aunt Althea. Anita Shaw was there greeting arriving supporters, after setting up a table with pictures of Jas and his family. Walter gave a great speech on the sorry state of the City and once again proved that if the Mayor is ever brave enough to debate Walter Moore -- Villaraigosa doesn't stand a chance.

Once Walter's speech was over, the boxes with petitions for Jamiel's Law were opened and lines formed at different points of the auditorium to either sign or pick up copies of the petition. The crowd patiently waited in long lines for the chance to sign petitions as well as for words (and many hugs) for the Shaw family. For more information on how you can download petitions and instructions on how to collect signatures, please visit JamielsLaw.com

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Anonymous Anonymous said:

Moore was in several of the 2005 debates and didn't distinguish himself at all, even as the only Republican (as he was quick to remind everyone at the time).
If he could have rallied those voters to his cause, might have stood a chance, yet somehow he failed.

He may know more now than he did then, but so does Villagarosa. Seems like another steep hill to climb for underfunded, underexposed Uncle Walt, V-Doll.

June 29, 2008 12:04 PM  

Blogger Red Spot in CD 14 said:

Spinsters on weekend duty.

June 29, 2008 12:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:





June 29, 2008 12:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So Zine didn't show, not surprisingly. Instead of playing him up and buttering him up, Wacky Walter has been dissing him as a Zine-Come- Lately, trying to hang onto HIS coattails on the Jamiel's Law issue. As though there were anything in it for Zine on the upside - he's already been marginalized and not heading to higher office, Bratton's written him off publicly as in need of education, and now he gets dissed by Walter. Good political savvy, Wacky Walter.

June 29, 2008 1:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

San Bernardino alos needs a jamiel's law to get rid of it's mexican gang members.

"Eight years later, the so-called Dead Presidents case is underway in a San Bernardino courtroom. Closing arguments are expected this week.

Prosecutors have charged Luis "Maldito" Mendoza, a boyhood friend of the Agudos and a 7th Street gang member, with organizing the killings. Also charged is a member of Mendoza's crew, Lorenzo Arias. Both could face the death penalty.

Mendoza's cousin Froylan Chiprez -- another alleged shooter -- is believed to be hiding in Mexico. John Ramirez, part of Mendoza's crew, pleaded guilty and testified against Mendoza and Arias.

The arrests of Mendoza and the others shocked residents. All were members of Johnny Agudo's 7th Street Locos. No West Side gang ever killed one of its own.

The Mendozas were from Mexico, while the Agudos were a Mexican American family with decades in the barrio. The arrival of Mexican immigrants had upset some Latinos in the neighborhood. But Mendoza's brother was Johnny Agudo's best friend and together they started 7th Street Locos."

June 29, 2008 2:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What the article about San Bernardino shows is that they have the same trend that we have in L A, with Eme/ Mexican Mafia controlling the streets and demanding "taxes" from Latino gangs, especially since the 90's. As soon as one of them gets out of jail, they're on the streets delivering orders about hits or doing the hits. Anyone who doesn't execute the hits, makes his WHOLE GANG open to execution.

They may be what happened with Espinoza, why the day he got out of jail he went looking for Jamiel's neighbor (as his girlfriend/driver testified in court) and when he wasn't home, say jamiel in the street and shot him instead: he may have feared for his own life if he didn't follow Eme orders and kill someone from the black gang. (I'm not saying Jamiel WAS in the gang, but if he was wearing gang colors, and lived next door to a gangbanger, he'd be assumed to be.)

San Bernardino article also makes clear that Mexican-born gangbangers are sometimes taking over from Mexican-American gangs, maybe being considered even more loyal to Eme, as Mexicans first.

This is another reason to get rid of Mexican- born gangbangers, and if they're anchor babies, deport the parents who came illegally. Coming illegally IS a crime, plus they've often committed some fraud like using fake SS#'s and getting welfare/ MediCal benefits intended only for legals. That's financial fraud and SHOULD be prosecuted and strongly outlawed, as in other states from AZ to S Carolina.

June 29, 2008 3:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A flawed exhausted empty mind resorts to petty name calling.

June 29, 2008 3:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

what ever happened to the loser doctor who used to post here to endorse hertzberg - he wanted to have concentric phone circles - can we organize a circle jerk for walter - it would be nice to take on antonio - can we get a real candidate?

June 29, 2008 4:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mexican gangs should be treated as urban terrorists, they have executed babies (Luis Angel Garcia -Weslake district) and young kids such as Albert Anthony Garcia. Jamiel's law does not go far enough, torture and execution for any low life cholo who would kill a kid like Albert Anthony Garcia.

The clown at 3:38 reminds me of the old cholo pendejo who was here before and then went over to Joe M's blog, before Joe quit in disgust.


The video speaks for itself. Albert was shot and killed in Montebello by gang bangers trying to crash a graduation party for a blind girl.

Police have remained completely silent regarding progress of their investigation.

June 29, 2008 5:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Look at the photo. Not a single brown or black face in the crowd sans Walter's house Negroes, the Shaws.

June 29, 2008 7:09 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

Red Spot --

You said! Wow, those staffers are working weekends!

Various untelivised debates from the 2005 election are available online. I was excluded from the televised debates. I invite anyone who's interested to watch them and form your own opinion about who prevailed in those debates.

I suspect that, when the time comes, Villaraigosa will decline to accept matching funds. He'll say he's doing it to benefit the taxpayers. His real reason, however, will be to avoid the legal requirement that he debate me. You read it here first.

If I'm in a televised Lincoln-Douglas style debate with him, his political future will end on March 3, 2009.

June 29, 2008 7:27 PM  

Blogger Red Spot in CD 14 said:


You are being too kind to Villar by equating him with Douglas.

Great job on your rally!!


Red Spot

P.S. Hearing "Ah", "Ahhh" and more "Ahhs can be grating on the ears.

June 29, 2008 7:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You forgot to say "Love YUH" at the end, so everyone knows how YOU, Vally Doll, feels about the event.

Daffy broad.

June 29, 2008 8:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

110, yes, I think Walter didn't need to "diss" Zine.

It was unnecessary, and at a time when having just one or two friends on the City Council could have really amplified his efforts.

Rookie error. I still hope Walter gains the platform to overcome this type of mistake. We all know he's a smart guy who would make macaroni midget salad outta villar.

June 29, 2008 8:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

God damn Walter you have a tremendous ego!

You're so stupid you blew some support from Dennis Zine that could have got you a few more votes.

Are you that dense?

Honestly I really doubt you're much brighter than Tony Villar.

Zev - are you listening?

June 29, 2008 8:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's not ego, dopey. It was a rookie error. He's entitled.

June 29, 2008 9:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Stop whining about the debates. Few people ever know about them and don't decide who to vote for based upon them.

Describe to us a scenario in which you could win and convince us that you're a viable candidate.

June 29, 2008 10:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ABC Channel 7 covered a story regarding an over proposed development at Ponte Vista in San Pedro:

June 29, 2008 10:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jack Hoff posting again.

June 29, 2008 10:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes Walter if the Mayor declines matching funds it will be because he is afraid to debate you...or maybe the truth can for once be said.

The option to accept matching funds comes well before the deadline to run for Mayor comes...now if Caruso is even .5% thinking about running for Mayor than Villaraigosa will forgo matching funds early to begin to amass a warchest to compete with Caruso.

Now, if the Mayor did accept matching funds than once Caruso breaks the limit on self funding the Mayor will then be released to raise the equivalent, but why wait til 3 weeks before election day and be immediately behind. Why not be a good boy scout and be prepared now.

But yes, lets make sure everyone on this blog believes that the Mayor is afraid to debate you and thats why might not accept matching funds.

June 30, 2008 1:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So much pointless energy spent here dissing presumed posters. Maybe this blog would make a damned difference if people actually put some substance in their arguments instead of just dismissing comments as being the product of this or that hated person.

At least Walter Moore says something substantive (except when he also piles on the speculative "consider the source" lame-game). Red Spot just hates. Some of the others hate AND can't spell AND can't form a coherent sentence.

This is Mayor Sam's idea of "free speech." A waste of good electrons. I'm with 4:07 p.m. Give us some good arguments and a real candidate.

June 30, 2008 5:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Red Snot.

Saying something is "spin" isn't the equivalent of saying it's wrong.

If you're going to be the chief apologist here for "Wacko" Walter (remember, that's the nickname Mayor Sam's blog appropriately coined for him in 2005) for the next 9 months, 1) he's doomed, because you couldn't reason your way out of a paper bag; and 2) you'll have to at least do better than one-liners saying "that's spin".

Even Wacko realized that and had to chime in here to save your lame save (and he's been trying to avoid posting here in order to appear to be a "serious" candidate).

But, too bad Wacko, anyone with time to post on Mayor Sam's CAN'T be a serious candidate. And anyone who has to try and ride on the coattails of a family tragedy like the Shaw's like Wacko is doing is the worst kind of opportunistic demagogue - and most people will realize that and quickly become very uncomfortable with Moore's slimy manipulation of this family.

(And, guess what? You're saying "that's spin" is -- SPIN, itself!)

Finally, you illiterate boob - a "spinster" is someone who never marries, NOT someone who practices political "spin".

I'm glad you're on Wacko's side. A perfect marriage of the illiterate and the illusory.

June 30, 2008 6:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I hope Walter Moor does get to debate on TV.

The visual of his nerdiness attached to his grating whiny voice and his one-note campaign message is a perfect trifecta of loserness.



June 30, 2008 6:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dontcha just love LA's Proud Progressives like 7:09 PM? Classic.

June 30, 2008 6:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is another reason to get rid of Mexican- born gangbangers, and if they're anchor babies, deport the parents who came illegally. Coming illegally IS a crime, plus they've often committed some fraud like using fake SS#'s and getting welfare/ MediCal benefits intended only for legals. That's financial fraud and SHOULD be prosecuted and strongly outlawed, as in other states from AZ to S Carolina.

I will vote for any Mayor,Supervisor, Assemblymen, Govenor or candidate for President who brings forth this type of legislation in this City, County State or Federal government.

June 30, 2008 9:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Tony is not going to debate anyone. There are lots of reasons for this, but the consequences are the same- he will get hurt.

Tony used to speak in a mixed style of street and scripted language. He's still a "gonna" and "wanna" guy, instead of "going to" and "want to," in his delivery, but it's improved. Now he's heard so often stuttering and stammering, looking for the right words or lie to say. That's more noticeable now.

He has a lot that can't be justified- waste in city spending by his own or by the council's doing, for one thing. This comes by institutional spending without apparent control, and it happens as a direct choice, like fighting for the school control, traveling for city "business" and similar choices.

The remarkable number of absences from the city during his term is another area for criticism. "City business" would not be so easily applied for much of the missing time. The junkets could arguably be justified in some part, but not the rest, since there is so much self-interest involved in his choices to plan his political future and taking time out of the city to advance that cause.

One increasingly obvious influence on Mayor Tony is the campaign fundraising sources and the influence expected by donors for the money. Out-of-town fundraising creates even more suspicion of a "quid pro quo" expectation.

Finally, debating means he has to be IN town and that's a challenge all by itself.

in L.A.'s CD-14

June 30, 2008 9:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To ignorant poster:

I was there and there were
Black,Brown ans White U.S. citizens
in attendance ALL outraged by
mecha mayor tony villar and his
anchor baby city clowncil!
I see the midget has his
la raza hermanos spinning BS
as usual. Legal citizens will
dump him or the Valley and the Westside will form their
own cities put up more walls and leave the rest to rot in grafitti and crime and gangs!

Walter you won't need a slingshot
to drop villar just the TRUTH!!

June 30, 2008 11:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, the color-count comment by the misguided "progressive" was out of order. Wacko is, I'm sure reaching people of other races, or will once some of them have heard about him.

Sheep who will blindly follow a hyperbolic demogogue can come in all colors.

On the other hand, there's Red Spot, whose idea of "celebrating diversity" is owning every different caliber of handgun.

Right, Spot?

June 30, 2008 11:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think it is a liability to keep linking Jamiel's law with Walter Moore's campaign.

I'm for Jamiel's Law, but the jury is out in Mr. Moore.

June 30, 2008 11:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anyone tempted to be impressed by this propaganda from Mayor Sam's gushing poster (and the fish-eye lens photo intended to make it look like more than it was), realize the truth.

The Shoshone Room at CSUN only seats about 200, maybe 250 people, tops.

For someone who was already on the ballot as a mayoral candidate 3 years ago, who's been running for a second time for months now, and whose appearance was touted by someone working at a major talk radio station in town (Kevin James, who also appeared), plus, he had as guests people as sympathetic as the Shaw family, with their timely tragic story, this isn't exactly a groundswell of support.

If it was completely SRO, there may have been 300 people present.

Because there IS no groundswell for Moore, even when he brings interesting better-known people with him. If you want Villaraigosa out, you better find someone the bulk of the city can take seriously and someone who can quickly push what little bit of Moore is showing into the background.

Moore's presence will continue to make people realize - "damn, we could do a lot worse than Antonio - a lot worse."

June 30, 2008 11:33 AM  

Anonymous stephen c. foster said:

11:18, obviously you've no idea who wrote Jamiel's Law. For you to post that you think it is a liability to keep linking Jamiel's law with Walter Moore's campaign shows me that you haven't a clue about the issue.

I'll give you a broad hint about the author of Jamiel's Law... the author's name rhymes with Walter Moore.

June 30, 2008 12:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Probably most of those who showed went to see Kevin James, who promoted it on his show. He's more in favor of Jamiel's Law and the illegal immigration issue than Walter Moore, who gets all paranoid about "third floor spinners" whenever anyone challenges him. The way he blew off Zine -- not just once in a casual remark but repeatedly as an interloper on his coattails -- is more than a "rookie error." It's a fatal error. Plus if it's true his voice is a whiny as he sounds in writing, he doesn't have a chance.

I don't like Antonio or his intentional blindness to the financial and social costs of illegal immigration and the way his MEChA spinners here try to justify keeping illegal gangbangers in our country, while denouncing the sensible supporters of our nation's laws and justice to citizens as racist.

BUT you'll need someone with charisma to beat that little shmoozing Mayor. Plus, liberals aren't going to easily dump a Latino, even one as mumbling as he is, for a better Latino. Luckily for the Mayor, the other all suck more than he does -- just list them, Marxist Alarcon and Let-me-put my slums in the hills and valleys Reyes; Tony Cardenas of the Tony and Janice Let-us-tax-the homeowners for our gang programs Show; El Grito and Fiesta Broadway Huizar -- all but Alarcon Anchor babies, and Alarcon the worst, with his sister a former head of the Communist Party USA/So Cal, which he supports. Then there's Nunez, FElipe Fuentes/AB212, One Bil Gil Give Drivers Licenses to Illegals Cedillo; Padilla, Fuentes' mentor; Alatorre, Cindy Milk-the-Taxpayers- Montanez; Screw the Cops Again Gloria Romero. Oh yeah, State Attorney General Candidate Rocky Delgadillo. Forget anyone?

June 30, 2008 12:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Golly, 32 comments. Must be one from every person who attended Wacko's "meltdown among the mini-malls" event this weekend.

June 30, 2008 2:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It is a shame that Walter Moore has decided to use the Shaw family tragedy for his own political expedience.
Was Ipsen at the Rally? Did he show up after jumping on the coattails of Jamiel's Law to enhance his DA race didn't quite work?
I'm willing to bet that Walter Moore leaves the Shaw family high and dry after his Mayoral bid fails.
Jamiel's Law is misnamed. It should be "The Walter Moore attempt to seize political opportunity Law"
I will do everything I can to help the Shaw family, but I will NEVER attend an event that is a political rally for Walter Moore and his ego.

June 30, 2008 2:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So 2:52, Cooley's shameless spinner, is here as well. Too bad he has to use the Shaws to diss Ipsen, who was right-on with all his criticisms about fat, lazy, drunkard Cooley, who refuses to prosecute illegal gangbanger felons as he's required to and prefers to release them early on plea bargains.

The way he did with Espinoza, who should not have been released to kill the next day, on a shot call form Eme, if Cooley had done his job. Cooley has hundreds of bully investigators he could use for that but won't, so blames Baca, who has had 2 staff people for ALL the jails to try to ID illegal felons, and those on gang lists.

We see Cooley using his thugs to attack Ipsen here, just like Ipsen said he does to ALL the Asst. DA's.

Sheer intimidation, including by misusing staff, and backroom deals got him re-elected. At least the Shaws aren't letting him misuse their son's death for his P R.

June 30, 2008 4:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Fortunately, most people already see Wacko Walter for what he is, as evidenced by his failure in the last mayoral election (despite being on free radio more than any other candidate) -- a grandstanding loser.

Some never-wasses as just not satisfied until they're has-beens.

June 30, 2008 4:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Wacko" Moore just needs to befriend a young tagger, like Tony V., and offer to mentor him.

(Is it true he has tattoos from his wayward youth hidden under long sleeves that say "born to whine"?)

Or maybe it was "born to exploit others' pain"?

June 30, 2008 4:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Truly, Walter Moore is to local politics what ambulance chasers are to the practice of law.

I'll bet he's a lawyer isn't he?

June 30, 2008 4:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter seems to think a televised debate would favor him. I'm not so sure. He doesn't come across as very likable. And unfortunately that matters even if he has all the right answers.

June 30, 2008 7:19 PM  

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