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Monday, August 06, 2007

Does Zuma Dogg Need to Change Marketing Warfare Strategy as Bloggers Attack ZD as If He Were In A Leadership Position in the Market's Perception?



Click here for "ZD's Campaign Promise Speech" article

Well, Zuma Dogg has always felt like the under dogg (#2 position) in a two-horse (dogg) race, for all to witness in the media on blogs, TV, newspapers and radio.

And as the dust settles over the past year and four months, the trail has left a public perceptions that "Marketing Warfare" co-authors and strategists Al Ries, Jack Trout remind us should be used to evaluate your current position in the market place. Only the leader (#1) should engage in a "defensive" strategy. Under doggs (#2/non-leader position in the market) should stick to an "offensive" strategy.

So how do you know whether you should be engaging an offensive/under dogg strategy or defensive/#1 leadership strategy? Ries & Trout say in the book, "And like military warfare, marketing warfare is an art, not science. You have to use your judgement." And based on recent "offensive" attacks from ZD haters on the internet, I think it's time to re-evaluate my own position and strategy on the internet.

Click "READ MORE" for all the libelous fun! (Who's being "libelous"? Well, I guess that's for the "READ MORER" to decide.

And sad to say, looks like that means a switch to "defensive" strategy. Cause no one is chasing the guy behind them/#2 or #3 position in the market. People attack the #1 position. And maybe everyone else already felt this way, but when people are complaining in Citywatch about ZD, and Citywatch is posting these delusional, psychic-mind reading lies and speculation, they must feel a change in strategy is necessary, too. (I mean, no one gets more satisfaction over this non-sense than ZD. Because despite the un-fun strategy change that Ries & Trout might suggest if they were to access the market -- of course, as a homeless and hungry blogger, I don't even feel like I'm on the radar, let alone someone worthy of all this outrage.

So like at City Hall, I guess I have to engage in what I feel is the proper marketing warfare strategy, at this point. (I mean, even Mailander had to comment on ZD in his Daily News article that I shouldn't even mention, because ZD was less than thrilled with the context in which he mentioned my blog efforts. I shouldn't even bring attention to it, according to Ries & Trout. But I mention it because, to be honest, it did factor into this new strategy.)

But this defensive response is in regards to Citywatch's oh so responsible and credible posting of a letter from some who has seen, heard and read just about everything there could be on Zuma Dogg. (Including reading my mind!) From someone named, Jean Wiskowski. And while you are at it, you can read the next letter, directly below it, from former Mayor Sam blogger and former NC boardmember Jim Alger who commented on something else called, "It's the Takeover Stupid". And I think Jean may even be an anonymous Mayor Sam blogger, you will notice some of his verbage may look familiar to the comment section.

First of all Ken, let me say that I have enjoyed reading your newsletter over the
past year, and although certain bloggers may have issue with me, I enjoy your coverage of City issues and your blog is part of the media mix that inspires me, as a blogger myself. (And whether you like my blogging, or not, I hope my critics will at least allow me to proclaim that, without dispute, just for the sake of the point.)

Regarding this piece of comedy, that is actually a tribute as well; I did want to pass along a few "clarifications":

from Citywatch:
Westwater Totally Correct
[ZD response in brackets.]

Brady Westwater is totally correct in his demolition of the L A Weekly article about
downtown, which they had called "Grand Illusion."(CityWatch-July 27-“The Unasked
Questions.”)

As he says, "Unfortunately, not a one of the many questions that still need to be
asked -- was ever asked." The article has lots of factual errors reflecting the
reporter's "lack of first-hand knowledge of...the events" or an "understanding of the players and their relationship with each other."

[I read it and didn't really see any of those "factual errors". (And disputing Paul Novack, Antonovich's Planning Deputy is not a "factual error", is it? And how does Brady know about any "lack of first-hand knowledge..."? Someone sent me a copy of the complete business plan in the form of a board memo, the same on Eli Broad and Related and Council and County were all looking at, with every detail of phase one, and the outline for phase two and three detailed.

Spoke with Bill Witte in a long, exhastive interview, quoted Eli Broad, and interviewed other people involved in the project including CRA, Council, CLA, community members, others "off the record" and did extensive internet research on the project. Brady complains I didn't cross-reference quotes between Broad and Witte...I hate to break it to Westwater...Bill's response was in response to my description per Eli, dummy! Witte's contradiction, was in response to my mention of Eli's position. Spin that loser. YOU HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY BRADY WESTWATER. YOU ARE POSTING AS FACT SOMETHING YOU KNOW ZERO ABOUT UNLESS YOU WERE ON THE CALL WITH BILL WITTE AND ZUMA DOGG. Sorry if all of that is not good enough for your article.]

(Back to Jean) I can't disagree with any of this criticism, except with the fact that Brady keeps referring to the writer of this piece as a "reporter" typical of other media.

In fact, the author, one Zuma Dogg, is a City Hall PNG and time-wasting gadfly who knows absolutely nothing about City Hall or politics...

[EXCUSE ME, YOU ARE WILLING TO SAY I KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT CITY HALL POLITICS??? I think there is a more accurate, less agendized, way of expressing the fact that you think I am an idoit without exposing yourself and losing credibility]

...and has no journalistic or other professional experience...

[Except that I was Director of Charts for Billboard Publications, overseeing four magazines a week, including my own weekly international column, and have had my articles published in numerous industry trade publications (Radio & Records, Quality Digest and others). And as Director of Charts for Billboard, with your own weekly international column; that definitey IS "professional journalistic experience, if you could let her know since it seems to be an issue for her.]

...but started hanging around for the explicit purpose of pestering the City Council after he ran afoul of Venice Beach ordinances decreeing where he and his friends could sell their t-shirts, incense and other such products....

[Because she is a talented psychic/mindreader, so she knows there was one explicit reason, and that was the reason.]

...It was during the course of hanging around and annoying everyone, that he gained what knowledge he purports to have. He remains a homeless man who sleeps in a van, and goes downtown on a bus to save parking and gas, and in his own mind [again, talented psychic/mindreader], to save the rest of us uninformed and uninvolved citizens from our public officials. [That's going a little overboard, I didn't say anyone was uninformed and uninvolved. But I do think a lot of people don't have time to do what I have been doing, and I hope my efforts help chip away at the fraud, waste and abuse along with everyone else's.]

...If you check his very recent, 7/25, interview and video on LAist, he will tell you in his own words what drives him to keep this up ("bitterness" and an "inability to stop" the adrenaline high of making everyone so mad), and about his lifestyle.

[Can you check the interview where I discuss or refer to, even indirectly, about an
"adreinline high from making people mad?" As a matter of fact, can you call council and the mayor's office and they will tell you "trying to make everyone so mad" is simply ignorant hype.]

If you check his own websites, you will see that even his most ardent followers [NOT MOST ARDENT FOLLOWERS, THE SAME PERSON WHO WROTE THIS LETTER, WHO I DOUBT IS WHO
"SHE" CLAIMS "SHE" IS...Not ardent follwers, agendized ZD spinners out to try and smear my reputation -- and the only way to do that is on my personal life, it appears. Or else these folks aren't smart enough or motivated enough to do the research to disprove me. And how could they, all they do is read, watch and listen to ZD, then spend hours upon hours on end posting about me. (LOL!)

I think it is pretty obvious to people who read and watch what I have been doing that I have been continuing to evolve, with less ZD character. http://executivestrategy.blogspot.com]

...He is one of those bloggers who openly has posted anything and everything about everyone, often libelous. [OFTEN LIBELOUS. I THINK YOU ARE THE ONE BEING LIBELOUS. KEN...AT THIS POINT, SINCE YOU POSTED THE HER/HIS COMMENTS IN YOUR NEWSLETTER THAT YOU PLEASE ASK THE PERSON TO SEND YOU THESE LIBELOUS COMMENTS AND PLEASE FORWARD THEM TO ME!]

ZD FINAL THOUGHTS: Interesting there is no mention of concern that this project has the county and city taking public land, money, time, trust and decision making out of the public's hands and puts it into the hands of private developers. Sorry "Jean" nice try. Can't win the battle of perceptions in a reader's mind, when you reveal yourself as an agendized basher, using propoganda, lies, hype and inaccurate statements based on your own ignorance and failure to do any research. But thank you for being so well versed on my efforts. You have obviously read up and followed my community activism over the past year. Keep watching, reading and listening! But try and control your emotions enough that you can maintain some of that journalistic integrity you crave.]

-Jean Wikowski
[Zuma Dogg]


Ken, can you forward a copy of this email to "Jean". Maybe it really is someone
named "Jean Wikowski" (maybe it's a regular reader of yours. If so, even more
shocking that anyone but a paid ZD spin bashers would be so thouroughly knowlegable of "all things Zuma Dogg." I mean, WOW, maybe she can write my biography.]

Click here for Jean Wikowski's/Jim Alger's comments in Citywatch's "'Insider' look at city hall".

zumadogg@gmail.com
www.zumatimes.com

Reference: Marketing Warfare by Al Ries & Jack Trout

47 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

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August 06, 2007 4:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma, you can post on your own blog article but don't do it in your user name. Michael Higby posts on his own blog articles all the time but he doesn't use his Mayor Sam name. He does it as anonymous.

August 06, 2007 4:34 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

hmmm, I think if i did that, people would be upset for posting anonymously.

How about posting without the ZD picture, and I'll just use it for certain things.

August 06, 2007 4:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No, we shouldn't be concerned since Zuma Dogg is NOT in a leadership position.

We should be much more concerned about an individual who doesn't seem to be able to handle a simple household's financial matters (over $2,000 of unclaimed checks) being put in charge of adopting and overseeing our city's multi-billion dollar budget.

Mayor V, a tip for you. Please ask Robin Kramer as soon as possible how many zeros are there in a billion, and remember the answer well. Next time, a reporter who catches up with you without getting beaten up first may ask you that question.

August 06, 2007 4:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

4:55pm,

Nice post. And to clarify, I am not using the term "leadership" as you apply it to elected officials and staffers. (I know that's what YOU were saying, but some of the "distortion and deletists" might have missed that.)

The term "leadership", as it applies to my use in the post, refers to the position in the "blog/related media" world in which I am being attacked (offensively), and that is a #2 strategy, forcing me to switch to a "defensive" strategy, which Ries & Trout say is that of the leader.
[In reference to marketplace.]

August 06, 2007 5:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why should you care what one or two people have to say? When you've said so much about so many people over the years. And I don't see anything in that person's comments, other than agreeing with Westwater -- what is so odd is your reaction. Everyone who writes in public forums, let alone city officials you attack, must be prepared for criticism. Is the issue here that someone else shouldn't have free speech, when you have claimed that excuse to say whatever you want, about anyone? Either stop writing and posting, or live in the real world.

August 06, 2007 5:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who's acting like the "crybaby loser" now? What you call everyone who criticizes you in this blog, and that's a lot of people. For weeks now, maybe months, seems like there are whole threads just telling you to shut up, and if I had a buck for every person who called you an idiot, from Jim Alger to anon to some regulars you know who, I'd be rich. And how many more people do you think are tired of your rants at city hall and all your stalking their staffs? Which you admit you do to get info, I'm not privy to city hall, but that's what you boast about.

You scream about how important you are, that you are going to teach the council how to do their jobs.

If you want to act like a leader, ask yourself, how many leaders have come out crying like this? With all the nastiness the Mayor has received lately, has he come out and attacked anyone or cried? Even Yvonne Burke has gone about her job. How many times have you attacked the mainstream writers like the Times -- who you call the L A Slimes, of course. If you want to be taken seriously, grow up and prove you have something to say.

August 06, 2007 5:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

since you're so thin skinned, you'd have been perfect for city council. too bad you didn't keep your promise to run.

August 06, 2007 5:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think it is pretty clear what I took issue with. Re-read the thread if necessary. Because here goes Mr. Propoganda to use "filters" (deletions and distrotions, mainly) to try and spin you. But these are the same people spinning for (you know who) and it doesn't see to be working.

So, to clarify...not because I care what an anonymous distorter says, but as a lesson in how these agendized spin doctors extend the truth and tack on complete lies and fabrications:

Why should you care what one or two people have to say? [I don't, it was printed by a "newsletter" that is sent out to more than two people.] When you've said so much about so many people over the years. [Has it BEEN years? And does what I do (try and fight for issues to create change, as opposed to all the time they spent of the singular issue of "ZD" at a personal level.]

And I don't see anything in that person's comments, other than agreeing with Westwater -- what is so odd is your reaction. [YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THOSE COMENTS OTHER THAN AGREEING WITH WESTWATER??? DID YOU SEE THAT EVERYONE!!! THAT'S A HUGE TACTICT RIGHT THERE. THERE WAS ONE SENTENCE OF AGREEMENT, THE REST WAS FRESH MATERIAL FOLKS!]

Everyone who writes in public forums, let alone city officials you attack, must be prepared for criticism. [Which I gladly accept, however, that does not mean people can lie, post what is inside people's head, and post opinions as facts, only to be proven wrong. (As in the claim I have no journalistic experience, even though I was Director of Charts for Billboard (BPI) among other internationally published work.]

Is the issue here that someone else shouldn't have free speech, when you have claimed that excuse to say whatever you want, about anyone? Either stop writing and posting, or live in the real world. [Am I not living in the real world because YOU have decided what falls into that real world and what doesn't? The issue is NOT about free speech. WHERE DO I MENTION ANYTHING ANYWHERE ABOUT THE ISSUE OF HER RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH??? (SEE THAT PEOPLE! MORE PROPOGANDA SPIN, INSTEAD OF EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION STRATEGY. This is what happens when you are forced to "go negative" with personal attacks, cause you can't seem to find any (factual) factual errors, besides your opinions.]

ZOOM BUTTERFLY WINGS...And there you have it. How a fear-based, inferior minded to begin with defeated loser, is forced to try and spin his/her way against ZD with nothing to go on, except personal details, that I was the one who released! LOL! And now, it appears as my "guerilla marketing warfare" strategy has worked. Keep covering me, the big zd from the 213...AS U CAN C!

Time to pull out the big one for you losers:

Zuma Master File

August 06, 2007 5:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:21pm,

I doubt that post is from Jim Alger. I think there are a lot of people out there who notice that kind of thing. And if someone can please find my mentions of Jim Alger, besides this thread, please email them to me, I would like to read them. So you have someone saying I posted that "Jim Alger is an idiot", and I don't see where people could have seen that to complain about it. But maybe there are more "distorters" and "filterers" out there.

So remember, I'm saying that post is probably not from Jim, and there are a lot of people who are keeping track of my "alleged" comments about Jim (outside this thread, which I included, since it was directly underneath "Jean's" comments, too. And she sure did know a lot about ZD and really felt compelled to spend a good amount of effort to try and tell a very compelling distortion of Big ZD! Wow!!! Then Jim Alger, who posted some pretty angry, name-calling stuff about ZD himself, in the last week or so. Although I didn't mention him.

August 06, 2007 5:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma- after reading the letter, I must agree. Jean Wikowski is your MayorSam secret admirer.

I doubt the name is real. This is probably the same person posting the "gay" comments and attacking Walter. Its all personal and vindictive. No substantive debate.

August 06, 2007 5:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma at 5:07

I didn't misunderstand. And thanks for the comment and explanation.

We should be less concerned about who is the alfa wolf here in the blogging community and stop attacking each other.

We should be more concerned about those out there who are in charge and could seriously affect our well-being in this city. That is what bring us together here in the first place.

We shouldn't be distracted.

August 06, 2007 5:55 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

5:55pm,

I agree with you, and just about everyone who knows me, including the haters, knows I agree with you. The challenge we face is that these people will never stop trying to run the diversionary propoganda attacks. When one spinloser is pulled off for ineffectiveness, they will just pop in another. You could say, "Please donate the Mayor Antonio's Re-election campaign" and they would see the google alert, and be here to post anti-productive stuff EVERY TIME...because that's what scorpions do...that's all they can do...it's a trap they can't break, because they operate on scarcity and fear and have a lot to cover up.

EVER NOTICE: they only attack on personal issues. They don't want to call any attention to the issues, because they are on the wrong side of public opinion and too many times, the law.

So, I hope you recognize, besides this post, when you see a thread I post, it's not about people's love life, or personal life. The filter I use to decide if it is blog worthy is, does it include fraud, waste and abuse -- AND is it something that people can take action to try and change.

So for example, you may say "the mayor's (insert personal issue) is a fraud that is wasting time and money. Well, unless you are writing to start a recall campaign...doesn't really matter what her name is or what TV station she works for. But if there are appointments being handed out due to personal conflicts of interest, well now you have something worth the public's attention.

August 06, 2007 6:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:55pm,

I agree with you, and just about everyone who knows me, including the haters, knows I agree with you. The challenge we face is that these people will never stop trying to run the diversionary propoganda attacks. When one spinloser is pulled off for ineffectiveness, they will just pop in another. You could say, "Please donate the Mayor Antonio's Re-election campaign" and they would see the google alert, and be here to post anti-productive stuff EVERY TIME...because that's what scorpions do...that's all they can do...it's a trap they can't break, because they operate on scarcity and fear and have a lot to cover up.

EVER NOTICE: they only attack on personal issues. They don't want to call any attention to the issues, because they are on the wrong side of public opinion and too many times, the law.

So, I hope you recognize, besides this post, when you see a thread I post, it's not about people's love life, or personal life. The filter I use to decide if it is blog worthy is, does it include fraud, waste and abuse -- AND is it something that people can take action to try and change.

So for example, you may say "the mayor's (insert personal issue) is a fraud that is wasting time and money. Well, unless you are writing to start a recall campaign...doesn't really matter what her name is or what TV station she works for. But if there are appointments being handed out due to personal conflicts of interest, well now you have something worth the public's attention.

August 06, 2007 6:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

SOMEONE POSTED MORE "UNTRUTHS" SHALL WE CALL THEM, SO I DELETED THE ORIGINAL COMMENT AND REMOVED THE PERSONS NAME, AND WAS NOT FORCED TO TAKE ANY COMMENT DOWN REGARDING THE MATTER...The rest of it...whatever. WOW!!! Mayor sam, there must be tons of people reading this blog, look how many different people just happen to be posting the same style propoganda spin at the same time!!!
_____________________

zuma, are you really denying that you have attacked virtually every city official, with special attention to the Mayor, in very personal and mean terms? Can you really be in such self-denial? I remember some mean comments about [someone's] weight that you were forced to take off [forced by whom?], and the stuff about the Mayor and Salinas has been over the top. But most of the problem is your setting yourself up as better than them, when so many people have said that a person in your position is in no position to tell them how to run the city or their lives. Can you see that? Do you see that it's only when Antonio Watch or Mayor Sam put up a thread, that people respond? How many people have pointed out that no one can take seriously advice from someone in your position? Even the KFI hosts you admire have called you "an amusing gadfly." I feel sorry for you, but just take a deep breath and ask yourself what your real goals are. What can you do that is positive? How do you apply your preaching to yourself?

August 06, 2007 6:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So "Zuma Dogg" is just a hit-generating bot for this site?

I guess it worked just now, when my hit was counted.

August 06, 2007 6:31 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

and for the record, i posted, "(Blank), who is no stranger to the treadmill."

But took it down within minutes, simply because I was not comfortable going down that path.

Even though I believe what the person did to me was a Federal violation! But you are comfortable re=posting the person's name, aren't you? Hmmm...

People reading this...do a search for "zuma-dogg salinas" and see how much coverage I gave the issue.

So as you can see, it's typical propoganda spin, same methods employed by cults...they will keep doing this all night long, because that is there job.

AND, since these people never learn, ZD will be logging off for a bit typing up a big issue oriented shoe to drop.

Hope you all have enjoyed this little session on propoganda spin and the tactics they employ. They are the same tactics cults use, and we have all heard who runs his team like a fear-based cult?

Oh you haven't??? Well, I better get typing. I have a bunch of old emails of stuff I never posted because I didn't want to be associated with that kind of content. But if you are tagging me with the image, I may as well the credit!

HAVE FUN WRITING ABOUT ME...I'LL BE GOING THROUGH ALL THESE EMAILS FROM FOLKS WHO'S INFO I PASSES ON ...AND YOU WILL BE QUITE AWARE THAT I HAVE NOT BEEN DOING WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN ACCUSING ME OF...IT'LL ALL BE OVER ON WED!

August 06, 2007 6:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm not going to read all this pro and con, or your story, but one thing: you call this a blogging issue but the issue was about a story you wrote in the L A Weekly, an established paper with certain standards. Every writer for the L A Times, the Daily and probably the Weekly, has a bio with their education, experience. As readers, we have a right to know who is telling us the story and their track record. These days, the question of what journalistic integrity means, the standards by which the story was researched and reviewed, is big. Salinas made one mistake in over a decade, and her personal life has been the issue.

Luke Ford, who happens to be a friend of mine, will tell you, blogging and writing for a paper are very different with different standards. Recently the papers have made fun of people but never with the meanness and innuendo that's been your hallmark.

August 06, 2007 6:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Can Antonio Watch or Sam post another thread for people who don't want to talk about Zuma Dogg again? Isn't there anything important happening in the city or country?

August 06, 2007 6:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil Krakover urged we boycott any rants by Zuma and I agree. Yes, you are proving you are in a "leadership position." Anyone found a new site like the old Mayor Sam used to be?

August 06, 2007 7:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why bother to defend when you just delete the ones who nail you?

You are a chickenshit punk.

August 06, 2007 7:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Zuma Dogg, why do you keep deleting my posts? Don't I have as much of a right to free speech as you do? If you can't take criticism, don't blog. You are the only person with less integrity than the mayor!

August 06, 2007 7:55 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

6:56pm,

Why don't you scroll down the blog and read the archives. Most of the issues covered ("going ons in the city) are still relevant. Even stuff from weeks, months or a year ago, still need attention.

And you shouldn't be reading this thread as "about ZD", my hope and wishes are that people are reading this from a "strategy" perspective, with particular focus on how opponents use "propoganda" style cult tactics to "spin" (not ZD), but the reader. There attacks are not for ME to read...they are not an insult to me...it is an insult to YOU...they are targeting YOU with the propoganda spin, which is limited to personal attacks.

Not everyone reading this is aware of the show behind the show. They are reading the comments, and making decisions in their mind over whether they agree or disagree with the spin...so I am trying to show them how to keep their eyes open for all the lies they tell and comments they take out of context and add their own distorted comments on top of -- and the reader has no idea what hit them.

They'll post five comments, then the sixth will say, "Common Higby, look at all the people making comments." It's a joke! And now, hopefully, you can be just as entertained. These people are allowing themselves to lose their minds and souls which is what happens when you focus all your time and energy geared toward one person/goal. And in this case, it seems to be me. I mean, take a look people...check the comment sections of these threads. Some folks have definitely turned their lives over to the "cause" or "goal" of focusing on zuma dogg.

And at the end of their day...what do they take away from it? What cause or issue did they advance, what change throughout the city did they help to create? You can say you do plenty, but judging by the comments...I'd say some folks have little time for anything else.

Some pretty big and powerful folks think they are some pretty top experts in psychological warfare and "spinning" and know exactly what button will cause what reaction...

HOW'S IT WORKING FOR YA? Perhaps a bunch of pompous, arrogant and ignorant dummies fell for the columbo routine. How ya like me now? YOU LOSE CARL MILLER!

Go to my master file blog and start reading.

August 06, 2007 8:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam, PLEASE put an end to this crap. As you can tell by the threads that Zuma doesn't post on there are respectful discussions. Zuma with his incessant posting of drivel lowers the level of your blog. If I wanted to read zumatimes, I would visit the site, I don't need to see the same crap posted over and over.
It's your blog, don't let a dog shat your place up.

August 06, 2007 8:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OH...and now here comes the "he's deleting my posts" B.S. (LOOOOOOOOOOOL!)

Good propoganda trick. By claiming that posts have been deleted, you assume it is true, however, since the "alleged" deletion cannot be seen, you assume it is tr-ha-tr-ha-ha-true!! (I can't even type it without laughing.)

Remember, as moderator, I took one comment that named someone in reference to weight, so i took out the name and reposted it. I hope the point the person was trying to make wasn't over the person's name.

So that could be the only thing you are referring to...that i reposted immediatley in it's entirety, with the only change being subsituting the person's name with (blank). is that what you consider a deletion that takes away your free speech?

Do all other blogs allow people to comment anonymously, un-moderated? Are they preventing you from free speech? Does the radio that does not allow any or all words to be said prevent you from free speech? And I guess since the U.S. govt won't let radio and TV broadcast anything they want, then the govt must be limiting your free speech.

So if taking someone's name out of your comment about their "weight", that had nothing to do with the point you were trying to make, or anything going on in the city, is preventing you from free speech why not read another blog? Why do you tourture yourself? Oh yeah, you ended up getting hypnotized like the cult followers you loathe.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS PERSON IS A PAID POLITICAL SPIN DOCTOR, BUT THE POINT IS, I THINK I AM LETTING SOME FOLKS UP THERE KNOW...I THINK THEY FELL A LITTLE TOO HARD FOR THE COLUMBO ROUTINE...AND I DON'T THINK THESE PEOPLE HAVE WHAT IT TAKES.

ISN'T THERE ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE??? ARE THESE THE BEST THEY GOT??? NO WONDER IT'S ONE PR BACKFIRE AFTER THE OTHER.

Let's start calling city hall, "the dugout"...cause they're the "Bad News Bears" of strategy and implementation. See the thing is, in the mayor's case for example, even with the right strategy, his confidence is gone as a speaker, and he's very incongruent, and sends all kinds of mixed-messages...and it's all caving in. MAN...I ASSURE YOU IF IT WAS MY JOB, ANTONIO WOULDN'T BE APPEARING LIKE A WOUNDED DEER IN HEADLIGHTS EVERY TIME HE'S IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA. I thought that was his strenght. (on camera appearance.) When you lose your strenght...it's over.

I should go find some candidate and run him/her for mayor and just have em do all these things and follow the executive strategy blog, and I'll help explain how they can apply it to them specifically --- and they would win.

It's called "Bottom Up Marketing" by Al Ries and Jack Trout. Domino's Pizza and Prego Sauce are two examples.

August 06, 2007 8:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:10pm ("Brandon")

And of course you are forced to continually read the comment section of this single thread. WOW! you are some helpless loser, who's patterns are strikingly familiar to some other anonymous folks I happen to know. Nice to meet you "Brandon". HEY, do you have a profile? Welcome to Mayor Sam's blog! Try not to force yourself to read the comment section of my threads. There are other threads to read! All blogs link to other blogs, and mayor sam links to other blogs, and he has tons of links to blogs. So of course the one link that is one too many is ZUMATIMES.COM??? Interesting! And Brandon, you really do sound a lot like this other person who comments around here. The two of you should get along great with yourself.

August 06, 2007 8:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Actually, he is a bald, smelly, chickenshit punk.

He deletes my posts as well.

Insecurity, thy name is Zuma.

August 06, 2007 8:52 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Hey, does anyone know the name of the STAFFER a certain candidate was sleeping with when he ran for mayor? HEY FELLAZ, betcha didn't know I knew about THAT, did you?

That's because I never posted it...but YOU already know about it...you just didn't know I knew about it. So know you know. And since there is enough focus on ZD to cause him to take a new "defensive" strategy...that means I need to run deflections, like posting a bunch of stuff about the people who are trying to attack me. Cause now, I'm playing defense.

And some intersting re-appointments, wouldn't you say.

HEY FELLAZ!!! THE DAMN IS ABOUT ONE WEAK ASS COMMENT AWAY FROM BREAKING!!!

Oooooooops...too late! By the way, some nice re-appointments lately.

August 06, 2007 8:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

:52pm,

Really, what posts have I deleted? People are watching???

See that's the trick..."Hey he deletes my posts, too", when it is most likely the same person. (I mean, how many people who feel their comments are being deleted are here at the same time complaining about it???

Now here is what's next:

Posting some things that SHOULD and WILL cause deletions, like graphic sexual allegations, or lies about people's personal lives. Pretty rancid stuff!

SO LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL...AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK LATER. I ASSURE YOU THE STUFF I POST ON THE MAIN THREAD WILL TAKE THE FOCUS AWAY FROM THE LOSER ZD CULTISTS WHO HAVE LOST THEIR SOULS TO THE COMMENT SECTION OF MAYOR SAM, LIKE SOMEONE STUCK AT THE FIVE CENT SLOT MACHINE IN VEGAS.

AND LOL the ANONYMOUS person who calls me a chicken shit pussy! What a chicken shit pussy.

August 06, 2007 9:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Look, you just said right here that you read some book called Bottom Up Marketing by someone called Trout, which apparently helped turn around Prego Sauce, and based on this expertise, you are going to "run a candidate for Mayor." Do you ever stop and read yourself, see how you sound? If you were someone else, would you take yourself seriously? You need help.

And why do you have to post an attack on every person who comments and accuse them of being the same person, or delete their posts?

August 06, 2007 9:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I know it's old news, but does anyone know why Eric Robles left the mayor's office?

And what about H.H./Chamber Maid? That should be good!

And I wonder what is being done about the DA"s investigation into "housing"? I wonder if they are concerned about illegals building condos? Or the the new LAUSD SCHOOL BOARD...

Oh yeah...priviatization of public money with front-end loaded contract --- AND...


JUST TO SHOW ZD HAS BEEN HOLDING STUFF BACK...


WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THE CITY GIVING MONEY TO NON-PROFITS RUN BY PEOPLE INSIDE CITY HALL??? I MEAN HOW MANY NON-PROFITS CAN ONE PERSON RUN???

And LA's Best...I say it's LA'S WORST when it comes to the money going where it should. The TEMPLATE for "front-end loaded bullshit." Any CM's spouses sit the board?

CHARTERS AND NON-PROFITS! And oh yeah, hey mayor, did you know that city council is pretending to have authority over STATE land and funds as they pretend they are allowed to vote on the same things that the CRA is allowed to? (LOL!)

MAYOR...DO YOU KNOW MAJOR PROJECTS ARE AT RISK OVER THIS???

DID YOU KNOW THAT I COULD WALK INTO COUNCIL TOMORROW AND HAVE A CERTAIN MAJOR PROJECT THAT ZD KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT SHUT DOWN...EITHER THAT, OR SOME FOLKS COULD END UP IN SOME LEGAL HOT, SCOLDING HOT WATER.

OUCH! And I hope they aren't voting on any projects requiring their voting approval if they took campaign contributions related to the project...

OOPS, they probably did! Some folks are SURE they did!

HEY MAYOR...HEY COUNCIL...Your spin doctors are doing a great job...look at all the things they keep reminding me i will need to discuss in my new defensive strategy.

Who should retreat? Well, that depends on who has the most to lose. ZD has nothing. What do the corrupt politicians have to lose?

August 06, 2007 9:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:23pm,

Another "delete my post", not the same person comment.

Sorry to post so much, but this is how it is...it's like any cult programming...they don't expect me to respond to every comment, just like the cult programmer doesn't expect a person to keep responding then they just give in.

So again, this is just a session in cult programming/propoganda and all that stuff. In this case, it's not about me running a defense strategy, but an "executive strategy" LIVE online seminar.

And the national bitch slap will be coming on Wed...but it might take until thursday for it to come down. I cannot believe this is the best they got.

But I bet they could never get Tony Robbins to bow down to them on HIS stage. I guess he had never felt so compelled as to do that in the history of his career.

It was a lot of fun! Wonder if any of these paid spinlosers could cause Robbins to drop down and give them the Wayne's World "we're not worthy" bow. No biggie. I only reveal this now, because I know Bill Clinton flew Robbins to Camp David to work with him...so don't feel bad that you tried to spin me, but you got spun. Tony invited me on his stage and proclaimed, "YOU KNOW I'M GONNA WIN, DON'T YOU" (Tony to ZD)...but before long, he couldn't prevail, so he simply had to drop down to his knees and he started the "we're not worthy bow." (Guess it was the first time ever, according to all the long time staffers who were all who were stunned and amazed that he did that, claiming they have never seen him do that before.

MAYBE YOU SHOULD CALL TONY TO HELP SPIN ZD...YOU WOULD STILL LOSE BASED ON PAST EXPERIENCE, BUT IT WOULD BE CLOSER!

So don't feel bad.

August 06, 2007 9:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is it me or did everyone just suddenly shut up?

August 06, 2007 9:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam: It's your name on this site, and what you had of credibility. Many people are under the impression that it's Zuma's site.

Do you want this to continue, bizarre claims of self-importance, making his hero Tony Robbins bow down to him "on his knees," and threats? Idle or not, this is just inappropriate and sad. Do you think any reputable blog carries on like this? You must exert your authority. We are watching the self-destruction of someone already on the edge, and the loss of the credibility I am told the blog once had.

August 06, 2007 9:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, whoever runs this site, the incomprehensible ZD thing is getting pretty old...

August 06, 2007 10:18 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

9:55pm,

You use the word "threat", when I say I am going to merely express my first amendment protected speech. Nice tactic from the same old person.

And do you have the market research to back up your "psychic/mindreading" that people think this is my blog? How could you feel anyone thinks that, when the blog says Mayor Sam all across the top??? But you must feel Mayor Sam is suckered by your, "I am told the blog once had" b.s.

OK...it's a brand new person to the blog who showed up and spins the same stuff as the other guy and "has been told" about the history of this blog.

Wow! a lot of you people out there. Hey Mayor Sam, maybe all these scores of people are right.

[see how they do it...i am not supposed to respond to every comment, and they plan on that. But there has been some especially nefarious activity going on in a special district...so they feel they are keeping me occupied here.

But I wanted to focus today on exposing the propoganda spin and this comment section was actually a working session I was running. Thanks for playing along.

If you aren't sure what I mean...well Bandler and Grindler took Erickson's clincial sessions and tried to decode and transcribe them and that became NLP.

So this thread was the "session", for the case study I will be presenting to a potential client this week.

Thanks for being at your best/worst. I'm satisfied.

And remember...all of these comments are contained on this one specific thread, and the content I am posting here is relating to the topic of "warfare strategy" which is a political topic, for sure.

So why are you tourturing yourself by continuing to return to this thread, when mayor sam and other contributors have many other issues to discuss...

OH, I KNOW WHY...BECAUSE TO YOU, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER GIG!

August 06, 2007 10:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

zuma dogg at 6:19

So for example, you may say "the mayor's (insert personal issue) is a fraud that is wasting time and money. Well, unless you are writing to start a recall campaign...doesn't really matter what her name is or what TV station she works for.

I suppose "personal issue" here = MAV's affair with Salinas. But it may not be just personal, and therefore it is quite different from most other politician's affairs.

MAV appeared to be giving certain mayoral information and mayoral access, which are things that belong to the PUBLIC, to Salinas exclusively, in exchange for a romantic relationship which is for MAV's PERSONAL enjoyment. At least it gives such an appearance. If they were innocently falling in love, they should have stopped the "business" relationship much earlier.

Seems to be stealing from the PUBLIC for PERSONAL gain.

Salinas on the other hand seemed to be using romance to exchange for mayoral access and information that could give her the edge over other reporters, and help her advance her career (possibly also help the TV station if the managers were in it together). Again, at least it gives such an appearance. If they were innocently falling in love, they should have stopped the "business" relationship much earlier.

Again, it seems to be stealing from the PUBLIC for PERSONAL gain.


But if there are appointments being handed out due to personal conflicts of interest, well now you have something worth the public's attention.

Zuma, you wrote an excellent LAWeekly artical about Grand Avenue.

However, I think you have withheld certain crucial information waiting for verification. We both know what it is. I can't wait to read your follow-up article.

Zuma, is that the type of potentially huge conflict of interest that you are talking about that worth the public's attention?

August 06, 2007 10:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I saw plenty of space for condos in Malibu.

August 06, 2007 10:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

We know that BRADY WESTWATER is a comrade in arms to the SCORNED WESTSIDE BLOGGER, worshiper of all things POLLOVILLAR and a bloggin hater of the CENTRAL CITY TOWN CRIER GUY (Don Godzilla Garza).

August 06, 2007 11:19 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

I find this all amusing. You take or leave whatever blogger you want. Its always been that way whether it was Chief Parker, Jennifer Solis, Walter Moore or Zuma.

And I find it hard to believe people see this blog as anything but Mayor Sam. When I meet people they say oh you write for Mayor Sam's blog.

Indeed, some people actually think the blog is run by Sam Yorty.

August 06, 2007 11:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who are Jenifer Solis or Parker? Have any of them drawn the sort of ridicule that zuma has? Usually you learn something from every blogger, even if you don't agree, and they are not also so paranoid and self- promoting every chance they get.

The next post is a repost of the same Malibu tour, for folks who missed it. My objection to his posts is that it's a sort of mind pollution: just glancing at it, even if you don't read it, is like falling into a cluttered basement and feeling ill as you crawl out.

Do you guys just keep him on because it increases your number of hits, even if people then tune out in disgust? If so, are you really like the MSM or corporations rather than about "credibility and integrity," you know, the things that blogs were supposed to offer up contrary to the MSM?

August 06, 2007 11:33 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

10:24pm,

Thanks for your comments on the mayor and for your comment on the article.

I didn't withhold anything pending verification. With a project of that scale, there was no way to get everything in the "overview" introduction to the project article.

Are you referring to the state decision making authority they have magically bestowed upon themselves?

Violation of Bunker Hill redevelopment agreement?

The possibility that councilmembers who took campaign contributions from people tied into the project, voted to approve the project without recusing themselves from the vote. (And will be voting on all expenditures over $25,000, unless the recuse themselves on all those votes.)

The fact that a couple of private billionaires have made the decisions as to what is happening regarding the needs and development of downtown, along with the public land and money?

The fact that if rooms don't rent, or parking spaces don't fill, the city takes a hit?

The fact that if CRA does not happen to come up with the subsidy money they are planning on raising for the affordable housing, the developer can scale back on the amount of affordable housing accordingly? (Then, all we get is the luxuty condos, without the promised affordable housing. Personally, I can't imagine them having the nerve to try and pull that one...however, the concern is that it is in the contract.

AND, after we allowed Related to be the developer and we assume the operator, they can flip it like a dime sack of weed, and turn it over for any less qualified operator to run (into the ground).

go to www.grandaveproject.com to read more.

August 06, 2007 11:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Repost of WHAT Malibu tour??? Do you mean the Vh1 segment. Hate to break it to you, it was just posted by Vh1 this evening, and I saw it for the first time ever, just a couple minutes before I posted it. SO THAT WAS THE FIRST POST OF THAT EVER!?!?

SEE FOLKS...MORE PROPOGANDA SPIN BASED ON LIES!

August 07, 2007 1:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

About half the posts here are from the insecure chickenshit punk ZD.

The rest are all from one other person, according to the insecure chickenshit punk.

Ergo, there are only two people on this blog!

What a joke.

August 07, 2007 8:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There are eight people who contribute to Mayor Sam by name. If you dont like Zuma Dogg DONT OPEN HIS POSTS!

Fighting with these petty arguments makes me weary. I am tired to read 44 comments and most of them, if not the same person, dont like Zuma Dogg. What are getting out of these comments?

August 07, 2007 6:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The point is, you can't avoid the idiot: soon as people start to have an exchange, he jumps in with his ugly head to sabottage it with stupidity, illogical nonsequitors, and garbage. Mind pollution at its worst.

And I think the poster this moron is so hysterical about -- everyone seems to be struck by the absurdity of this fool devoting his entire non-life to criticizing others a million times his superior in intelligence and what they contribute to society -- was trying to tell people that, just because an idiot is picked up by a sometimes reliable paper and heavily edited, that it's worth the time to read and analyze his drivel.

If a Hooter girl ran for Mayor because some newspaper owner thought it would be fun for his "reporters" to cover, because it would sell papers for the sheer absurdity: wouldn't you want to know the background of said lady?

No doubt, someone could clean up her speeches. Ditto with Village Idiot: HERE, on this blog, his true moronic self shines, and it's important for people to see just wnat sort of idiot is presuming to be the New Snoop Dogg (as he says wants to be) of "Social Justice."

August 08, 2007 12:00 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Fully 30 of these posts are from the Dogg himself, under several different blog names -- all screaming at the one other person on this blog who, in his mind, is the solitary person in town who is not under his spell enough to criticize him. Yup, this is a guy I want to be getting my city hall insider analysis from.

What ever happened to that aborted but much-promised run for CM? I'd actually like to see Zuma as CM, just to see how crazy he makes all the others. It will become a national reality show, and with the royalties, the city will really add to its coffers.

Of course, provided the deal includes free mental hospitalization for not only the other CM's and Mayor, but also their staffs, security guards, the dogcatcher and trash collector, pretty much everyone who works for the city.

August 08, 2007 8:39 PM  

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