Zuma Dogg's LAUSD "Education Reform" Politician Style Speech [What to watch for under new school board and what direction society needs to take.]
As of July 3, 2007 a new Villaraigosa-backed majority (four of seven) LAUSD school board has taken over the latest “reform effort” and started by voting out President Marlene Canter and voting in new LAUSD board president, Villaraigosa’s Monica Garcia.
Team Villaraigosa is using the position of, “Hey, forgive us if we take tight control of the reigns and try and do some big things, quickly. The kids have waited long enough, and the previous administrations have failed for too long.
Well I’m sure everyone reading this agrees we have a major crisis on our hands regarding the public education system, and specifically LAUSD, and we do need change and we need change now.
However, a sense of urgency does not give a small group of politicians and their colleagues to run rough-shot over the community with public funds as they take the annual “order of business” and run it through (the agenda that LA Weekly reports was sent to Garcia with the mayor’s name still on the file) without going through committee and without public input and before the statistics and answers they are calling for have been provided?
Without Zuma Dogg making the mistake of forcing every reader to see how the sausage is made (explain my detailed timeline that drew me to these predictions), here are some things I would expect VillarGarcia’s LAUSD school board to try and start doing:
a) Whereas, the annual “order of business” didn’t go through committee, don’t expect too many other things to be run through committee, either.
b) Whereas, VillarGarcia wants to steamroll through the agenda with as little friction as possible (from boardmembers, as well as the public), watch for Monica to call for “NO QUESTIONS FROM BOARDMEMBERS UNLESS THEY VOTE AND APPROVE FOR A BOARDMEMBER TO ASK THE QUESTION FIRST. And guess which four boardmembers will never have enough time to vote, “Yes” to allow the question from opposing boardmembers?
c) Whereas, you are not running things through committee anyway, won’t let boardmembers ask questions without a vote to allow the question to be asked first; you may as well cut back to one meeting a month;
d) Whereas, you claim to want MORE parental input regarding the future of your kids at LAUSD, by cutting back meetings to once a month, you reduce the opportunity for the public to provide that input and;
e) Whereas, Zuma Dogg says you are going to even try to cut back the once monthly public input to five or ten minutes, no matter how many people show up to provide the parental input you campaigned on including in this process.
f) Whereas, how come before you had any parental input, any results of the research you requested, or anytime to discuss as a board, in a public forum your plans for the year – it magically pops off Monica Garcia’s computer with the file tracing back to education expert Antonio Villaraigosa’s computer?
g) Whereas, because Zuma Dogg feels it was the same “order of business” left over from Richard Riordan’s computer, toward the same goal of the Thomas Sanez’ authored AB 1381 (Private Counsel to Villaraigosa and frequent spokesperson for Antonio when the mayor couldn’t take the AB 1381 “public heat”/simple questions from the public)
h) Whereas, AB 1381 was deemed unconstitutional and illegal, and AB 1381 was trying to pull all the budgetary spending power of the school’s $20 billion plus construction and repair budget in the hands of one person (the school superintendent, that they mayor hoped to control);
i) Whereas, oh yeah…in case you still aren’t concerned, I forgot whereas watch Monica Garcia try and punt the Inspector General as far away from her agenda as possible, even if she has to have him physically removed by the Sergeant of Arms – and whereas ZD says what the new VillarGarcia board vote to increase the amount of expenditures that require board approval to be increased to $3 million dollars. (I think it’s currently $250,000.)
j) Zuma Dogg says you have been warned to please be watching for MORE accountability and transparency with the new VillarGarcia run LAUSD school board.
k) And now, ZD will focus on gathering some of the input VillarGarcia is trying to cut, and will try and recap it here. Please send all LAUSD “real-reform” feedback to zumadogg@gmail.com.
But first, before I present my LAUSD “real-reform” platform (criticism of current LAUSD attempts, highlighting the positive reform measures they are taking charge of, and additional ideas that may, or may not already be on the runway);
COMMUNITY CHALLENGES AND GOALS:
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As mentioned in my previous articles on Deming (as published in ‘94’s “Quality Digest”), recent LA Weekly article on “SCAG” (Southern California Association of Governments) and blogging, most of the high-quality jobs the previously available to college graduates have gone overseas to Asia and China. (Did you see today’s news reports that China is now #3 economic superpower, surpassing Germany?)
And of course the manufacturing industry is overseas, as well.
That leaves the U.S. and especially Southern California in a strategy position it hasn’t been in for quite some time, if ever in the industrial era: The under dog position. The U.S. and as I will refer to for purposes of this audience, California, must look around and say, “ How do we rebound, now that we allowed it to get away from us, and we are left with the low-quality, low-income angle.
In other words, how do we regain the ground we lost to oversea economies that took Dr. W. Edwards Deming’s 14 Point plan, implemented it, and now has the U.S. scrambling to keep its society above water.
It starts at the top. It’s a prevailing philosophy. Successful management, like the type responsible for turning the manufacturing tables on the U.S. by implementing “quality and productivity” on the job (like Japanese automobiles and electronics manufacturing) would never front-end load management contracts that end up putting inappropriately excessive amounts of project money into salaries of managers and their perks and not enough into the public project, itself, to get the job done. Then the politicians come back and ask for more money though bonds and taxes.
So if you are operating from the premise of, “Well gee, all the high-end, college type jobs have gone overseas along with the manufacturing that left a long time ago, how do we make due with what’s left? The lower-paying, “lower-quality” jobs. (That term is not an insult. That’s how government and economic types categorize it. “high-income”, “low-income”, “high-quality jobs” (higher education, higher skilled, higher paying, higher status), “low quality jobs” (lower education, lower skilled lower payer, lower status).
However, given California’s position in this new global economy, the lines are beign blurred between what constitutes “high skill”/”low skill”; and what level of education you need to make what is considered to be “higher paying” money. (Shortage of vocation workers like electrical workers at DWP has raised the pay.)
COLLEGE READY KIDS?
So just as LAUSD has a 50% dropout rate as it is, with more and more English learners coming into the system that before, there is a lot of LAUSD “order of business” relating to preparing kids to be college ready.
Although this is an ambitious and admirable goal, and of course we need a certain percentage of LAUSD students to continue on to college (the career of further education to fill the jobs requiring that added level of skill and knowledge), it should not be the goal of LAUSD to prepare all kids for college.
The goal should be to prepare all kids for graduation and if you have to prepare them for college, the added raising of the bar will actually increase the drop out rate as a whole new level of students are not able to rise to the higher level of achievement, because you have not yet fixed the system for them.
The current Villaraigosa-backed majority school board, under Monica Garcia, has an overly ambitious agenda for a board that just got started and doesn’t have the answers to the questions that will allow them to provide the actual solutions that will actually improve the district.
However, although they are biting off more than they should regarding the policy (a full streamroll ahead approach)/already raising the bar and making it more challenging and demanding for students) – you should be doing EVERYTHING to improve/fix the system for the students and parents! Make no demand until you have provided the environment and system (method) to achieve such goal.
Some basic examples:
Monica Garcia should let Superintendent David Brewer make a new public announcement, (under this new annual “order of business”) to all parents, students and teachers that transformation is on the way. One leader is now in charge of this transformation and will be working with the school board to achieve new levels of heightened student achievement and increased graduation rates. And request input from all interested parties, from wherever it may come from.
Empower everyone on the job in the district from tree trimmer to school board president to use common sense and life-experience to do their best job, and let management know how they can help you do a better job/improve.
For example, maybe the gym teacher suggests moving classes to after lunch, when the kids have more energy to burn, rather than right before lunch when they are ready to drop because no one eats a good breakfast. Maybe a principal that tells teachers, "Hey no mid-term exams the day after American Idol finals. Kids won't study, and overall test scores will drop." (Based on what the teacher learned last year.)
Let common sense prevail, wherever legally possible. Knowledge comes from everyone within the system (it is called a school “system”), and if your ship is sinking, don’t ask what kind of life jacket they are throwing you.
For example, maybe the janitor can tell cafeteria not to serve a certain item anymore, because most of it is ending up in the trash. (The meal planner would never know, because all of it was served. Or the parking lot attendant who notifies the principal that the lights need to be replaced in the staff parking lot because kids shot them with a BB gun. (And the principal would never know because he leaves work before dark.) Kids know the problems; parents know the problems; teachers know the problems. Many of them have the solutions. Embrace your biggest asset, community input. (And I see Brewer doing that.)
Now, let’s look at some bigger picture solutions outside LAUSD’s job description that can help “fix” LAUSD.
So, a more immediate first thing that can be done to fix the school system starts at home. Parents need to accept responsibility and become active participants in their children’s lives. You can judge what a young kid says, and how they behave by the standards imposed on them by the parents. It’s tough to say “no” to your kids, when other parents say, “yes”, or don’t say anything at all, because the kids are left un-attended.
Too many parents think it is the schools and teachers job to instill dignity, respect and discipline into their kids. BUT IT IS NOT. That is the parents’ job. The schools job is to educate kids. Help fix LAUSD by fixing your kids, so the school can do its job. (Teach them how to read, write, add, etc.) Asking your kid, “How was school today? Did you do your homework?”, is not taking responsibility for your child’s education.
I know it’s tough to be a parent to your kid, these days. The high cost of housing, taxes and gas makes it hard to make ends meet, and both parents (if there are even both parents at home) have to work long hours, and travel through long traffic-jammed commutes, for not enough pay, at the end of the day.
And at the end of that day, It’s much easier to say, “yes”, than argue a long protracted battle over how late a kid can stay out, or how many hours they can use myspace, youtube, ipod, xbox, or even regular old TV. And it doesn’t help when other parents refuse to do a thing to help instill discipline, morals or standards in their kids.
But you must rise to the challenge and be the leaders and role models in your kids’ lives. Parents, don't rely on the City to be your kids’ babysitters after school. Rely on each other. Spend more time talking to each other about after school activities. Do more for each other. Talk about what your kids are and are not allowed to say and do. Try and convince other parents to go along with the higher standard, so all the kids that play together lift each other up, instead of drag each other down.
So that's ONE thing the community can do to fix the schools (besides reducing classroom size, paying teachers more so we can recruit new ones, after school programs, safer streets and other things that are out of your control):
Take on more responsibility to do the job you asked for when you had a kid. Be a mentor -- to your own kids. You cannot leave the job of raising your kids and teaching them responsibility and values needed to keep them in school, graduating and productive members of society we need them to be to a school system. That’s not THEIR job, it’s YOURS. Take on the challenge. It will be almost as enriching and rewarding of an experience as myspace or YouTube.
There IS much for LAUSD to do as well, especially in the areas of management of quality and productivity as it related to operations and the administrative system itself. But the parents and kids have a long way to go before they can start pointing too many fingers at the system itself.
HOW ABOUT “JOB READY” KIDS?
How about vocations to prepare kids for today’s U.S. job market? Do you know how much carpenters, plumbers, sales people, electricians, AC/Heating, tile person, car mechanic or truck drivers make these days? ($90,000 plus.)
If high-end college type jobs have left the region and are now overseas in Asia and China, how about the vocations mentioned above, and others are jobs that you cannot export; and you cannot import. (You don’t fly in a construction contractor when you build a new condo. And you can’t import the electricians DWP is short on.)
Not everyone is meant to go to college. It is the school systems job to provide students with the basic, necessary skills to either enter the job market, go on to further vocational training, or college and more interpersonal skill training.
But to say it is the government’s job to prepare all kids for college, means that a diploma has no value as its own entity. A diploma is supposed to be the piece of paper you need to be prepared to enter the job market, not an expected requirement to enter another four-year round of expensive education to prepare you for jobs that are not available, because they have been outsourced and downsized in a new electronic era. Do all kids need to be prepared to learn Shakespeare and calculus?
Today’s school system was created in 50s era to prepare kids to conform for the manufacturing jobs that drove the U.S. economy. Everyone had to conform to the same factory jobs, along the assembly line. No uniqueness required.
Engineers make a lot of money, sales people make a lot of money, real estate agents make a lot of money. Train people for the types of jobs the big corporations need: Sales, administration; and construction of facilities, among others.
LAUSD CHARTER REFORM
Charter schools can be valuable tools to allow the community to partner with the government to help improve the quality of education for the student and be an overall asset toward improving the overall result of the State education system.
However, as in any system, there is concern for flaws that allow for the exact type of fraud, waste and abuse that ends up producing the exact opposite results that are promised (higher student achievement provided more efficiently) and ends up leaving the public system weaker than before (cream of the crop students taken by charters leaving higher percentage of “special needs” and “low-achievers” at LAUSD non-charters, which also means less number of students, then they cut the money to those schools who need the money the most).
So as LAUSD starts to approve more and more charters to help the state better educate the kids, and increase all the right numbers in all the right places…let’s make sure there is enough openness and transparency in the process so as to prevent the types of conflicts of interest and fraud, waste and abuse that intentionally, or unintentionally continues to shoot the system in its own foot, causing it to stumble out of the starting block, time and time again.
THE COMPASSION PRINCIPAL
Since ’94, LAUSD has authorized charters: To this date, there is no accountability standard according to the district. I have also heard that there is an intensive application process. Some people view charter schools as a back door policy to break up the LAUSD district.
And breaking up the district in a meaningful and efficient way would be the right step to take. It’s way too big and way to bureaucratic to operate efficiently. Besides being too big geographically, it’s too wide socio-economically. The higher performing schools in the more affluent areas seem to get the “house advantage” over the lower performers in lower economic areas. (Different needs and attentions.) But even socio-economic inequalities aside, it’s just too big a system to operate as an efficient system. But, we are stuck with this monstrosity of a system, for now.
At Green Dot Charter, applicants are required to include parent income; previous student grades; and require additional parental involvement. And some say the application process is more like a screener, skimming the cream of the crop students from the non-charter, public schools; leaving LAUSD with the special needs, and low-achieving students.
Charter schools are run by a lottery to pick students. But the application process to get into the lottery is more difficult than and Ivy League Law School (12 pages long).
What are bright kids from low-income, less-attentive/non-attentive parents to do? They are being punished because charters won’t take them, because parents won’t commit to the added time, or don’t make enough money. Why are we blaming these kids for who they are born to?
As in “special education” students, “highly gifted” students (150 and above I.Q.) is an equally distributed number across all income, social and cultural levels.
So this means there are a minimum of 5000 “highly gifted” kids in the 73% Hispanic and 11% black LAUSD district which reflects the demographic makeup of the district (including 9% white).
So what do we do about these low-income, neglected geniuses not having their uniqueness being catered to?
You have to prove that you care about kids in the way THEY want you to care about them, instead of disenfranchising them; having them drop out, and fall prey to gangs, and we lose out on qualified workers to help keep society not only competitive in a global economy, but simply ticking and functioning on a day to day basis.
If you get them interested in these vocational skills, then they will be interested enough to want to learn the basic and more advanced math that is needed for shop, or garage class. And then, that just might provide the jumpstart that will allow them to be able to go on to college, if they choose; or to directly enter the local job market with a higher level of achievement, and there for higher level of skill and value to the job market and therefore, society. DWP can’t find qualified people to do the electrical work.
This is how you reduce the dropout rate as well. Get them interested in a vocation or interpersonal skill that will create the interest to get them involved in the math, science and English skills required to pursue their dream, and you will reduce the dropout rate; reduce the crime rate; reduce the gang rate; reduce the prison population and increase the pool of qualified applicants for jobs we need like teachers, police, fire, sales, administration, and all of today’s highly-demanded jobs.
A charter lottery is supposed to be an open application process of anyone who wants to “go charter”, and then the lottery is based on all applications.
According to one LAUSD “reformer/charter supporter”, all the “involved parents” already pulled their kids out of LAUSD and are in private/charter schools.
So now, LAUSD will start to jump into the privatized Charter game, using public money and handing the management over to private entities. So we have to admit, we now have a two-tier education system, like cable TV. You have basic LAUSD (non-charter public school catering to special needs and English learners) and premium LAUSD (charter public school with “cream of the crop” skimmed off the district).
Instead of preparing for two school systems, all teachers, resources and efforts should go to ONE education system for all.
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Is the newly elected LAUSD school board members like the zero experience as an educator, Tamar Galatzan, or even “now veteran” Monica Garcia knowledgeable on the type of school reform they are taking on?
I heard that at Green Dot, only 40%=50% of teachers are fully credentialed. In one school, only 3 out of 22 teachers are credentialed. By state law, this number must be equal to LAUSD, which is 90% credentialed across the general district.
IF THIS IS TRUE, THESE SCHOOLS SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN BY LAW!
Do these charters have the 12%-13% Special Education Classes like LAUSD? Are Charter schools skimming the cream of the crop students leaving LAUSD with the lower performers, then get to say, “LAUSD failed”, while making it easier to charters to show improvement with the cream of the crop highest achievers?
And the system is set up to keep the school in constant, “need for reform” mode.
The State Lottery placed steady funding for books and supplies. So, you must wonder why you hear so many cries from students that they don’t have enough text books. Somehow, the State Lottery money is now being used for wage and benefits.
Now I support as much money for teachers as possible, and they have one of society’s most important jobs (next to the police), but I don’t think there is a need to take the kid’s book and supplies money to achieve the goal.
With a $61,000 average LAUSD salary; plus those who chose to earn more money as mentors; summer school gigs; mentoring new teachers; or simply choose to work at Radio Shack during the three month vacation you are talking $85,000 a year, plus National Board certified teachers make upwards of $100,000. (And who else making this much also gets three months off?) But they had to dip into the kids’ books and supply money because teachers were too uncomfortable at this type of salary level, for nine months work. And teachers don’t generally work as many hours as other executives and workers in this salary range, and don’t have the long “after hours”, at home computer work many executives at this salary level are forced to take home everyday and over the weekend.
CHAPTER SUMMARY
People have given up on our public schools, now they want to pass the buck to charter schools. (I mean pass the buck literally and figuratively.) Although charter schools can be a welcomed blessing to the community and state (society), it is up to the community to insure that the system is providing that service in the best interest of the public, since the state, through LAUSD approval, is handing over public money to be managed and operated by private corporations (non-profit and for-profit organizations), and history has shown that in many cases, conflict of interest, fraud, waste and abuse ends up producing the exact opposite results as required by law.
More to come.
LAUSD AND CHARTERS...Off to a good start. LA TIMES article
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34 Comments:
Anonymous said:
When the other side engages in a nuclear war to avert the election of these four members, what else can they expect?
You were not there when the war began, nor do you know the details of how the other three, when in the majority, treated Garcia and the minority.
The union joined with the now minority in a war of devastation; they ignored the others and hired the Superintendent even when they KNEW they would lose the elction and majority. The ignored everyone, including the Mayor.
What else should they expect? A Dove and a Olive Branch?
Politics is a body contact sport; you have no idea how to make the sausage, fool; all you know is how to eat it.
Anonymous said:
Kanter is out!
Ding, dong, the witch is dead!
Ding, dong, the wicked witch is dead!
Zuma Dogg said:
5:54pm,
I have a long story to tell, and this is the appetizer so here it is for the first time, for the millionth time:
Don't try and pull that non-parallel, faulty logic round here, now. Save it for those fancy new spin doctors your boss' boss hired.
Round here, we embrace Robbins, Deming, Ries, Trout, documents, facts and historical perspective, not agendized, faulty-logic propaganda.
I know it's tough cause you have such a weak position to argue...(that Villargarcia isn't gonna end up creating Belmont Pt 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10...et al),
or at least have excessive amounts of the public money go toward business friendly contracts and front-end loaded management structures that allow too much money to go to cronies and not enough into concrete!
And if what I hear about Green Dot and Semilla is true, they should be shut down by law NOW!
And just because there is a crisis that needs addressing, it doesn't mean you can allow LAUSD Villargarcia anarchy to run rough-shot over the general fund like a Bonnie and Clyde.
Anonymous said:
LAUSD ... public education ... Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!! Lotsa luck!
Anonymous said:
When the other side engages in a nuclear war to avert the election of these four members, what else can they expect?
You were not there when the war began, nor do you know the details of how the other three, when in the majority, treated Garcia and the minority.
The union joined with the now minority in a war of devastation; they ignored the others and hired the Superintendent even when they KNEW they would lose the elction and majority. The ignored everyone, including the Mayor.
What else should they expect? A Dove and a Olive Branch?
Politics is a body contact sport; you have no idea how to make the sausage, fool; all you know is how to eat it.
Anonymous said:
Zuma, you still understand nothing of politics; the people elected these members to represent them. Who the Hell are you to tell them they can't run the place with a majority?
You are a self appointed representative of no one; you have no constituentcy. If you want to have a vote, then run for office and see if you can get elected.
Otherwise, shut up your pie hole, because they are doing what they want as elected officials. If the majority of voters don't like it, that is what elections are for.
Go back to you incense and Tee shirt begging business, something that you weren't very good at either.
Zuma Dogg said:
6:30pm,
First of all, when I complained to you on the phone that nothing went through committee and there was no public input and you admitted that was true, however, at least, "the people elected these members to represent them."
That is not the same as running their policy and agenda through the public and committee. NOT EVERYONE VOTED FOR EACH OF THOSE MEMBERS...THEY MAY HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO RUN THE SHOW...
But their agenda was not approved on board member election day. They were voted in to be the people responsible for the process that they had finished before it began.
Remember I said to you after reading the Annual "Order of Business", "Bro, for Monica to thow is on the table so quickly, it must have been already prepared and sitting in a drawer."
Only to find that was indeed the case. (The file was sent from Villar's computer to Monica.)
So FUCK THAT NOISE that we live in an "elected dictator" society where whoever wins the election gets to do whatever they want behind the publics' back and without being involved in the process you cold, heartless, non-compassionate, doing the work of the dark side and therefore no soul and therefore you know happens merchanary!
If you want to have a vote, then run for office and see if you can get elected.
[OH!!! So if you wanna have a say in the democratic process you have to become an elected official!?!?!? If you wanna take a stake in the process you have to win an election to have your voice heard???
Hey Ms. Thing...your spinner is slipping...never a bigger loser in this comment section...
DOWN GOES TYSON!!!
DOWN GOES TYSON!!!
Otherwise, shut up your pie hole.
[Wow! Now you're on REAL strong "Art of War" territory. You're obviously the merchanary who DOESN'T hablas Antonio R.
...Go back to you incense and Tee shirt begging business, something that you weren't very good at either.
[You would like that wouldn't you! Maybe your boss should have left well enough alone at Venice Beach. Think he would have pushed for the ordinance and signed it looking a year and three months into the future. Yup! It's only been that long.]
Anonymous said:
If people read and understood what was going on, things would change. But when less than 25% of city refuse to vote for anyone its because they feel helpless that ALL politcians are illigal, immoral and shady.
Anonymous said:
i thought we 86'd the junk food dispensers? who's that tubaguts setting a very bad example for the chilren?
Zuma Dogg said:
LAUSD AND CHARTERS...Off to a good start. LA TIMES article
Anonymous said:
7:12: zuma, making the loudest noise doesn't make you the smartest, or even remotely competent or coherent; it just shows you are ill-bred, and so filled with yourself, and lacking in real education, that you've never been around truly intelligent people before, and so your basis of measurement on both aspects -- manners and civility and education and intelligence -- is so low, that you see yourself at its summit.
Judging by your cohorts and followers, that may be the case, but only reflects what I am saying.
Zuma Dogg said:
Hey Clinton spinners and Tony fans...this is pretty cool. Tony in action on YouTube doing some pretty serious practioning. The guy is THE most amazing practioner of hypnotherapy...you have to get past the "cult or culture" you may associate to his "hangers on" or for his shameless self promotion and constant spinning he is doing to put you in the perfect "frame of mind" to make a seminar purchasing decision.
If anyone wants to call zd on his phone (310) 928-7544 I will explain how everytime Tony steps on the stage it's about a four day upsell to his next seminar...
BUT,
his product is that of creating positive out of sheer speech and gesturing.
[Tony, did your nose itch...or was that some kind of anchoring-frenzy??? It seemed distracting. But bro, great to see the master in action...PEOPLE...you gotta listen to his patterns, watch his gestures...
You hear the term "hyponotherapy" and it has all types of associations...
However, as far as the Ericksonian, clinical, ivy league application (if there is such a thing), this guy is playing Eddie Van Halen riffs while everyone else is playing three bar chords.
Tony Robbins LIVE for Google corporate crowd with Al Gore in front row
Anonymous said:
People may have voted for them, but it is the mayors developer friends who paid for the election.
Go to the CalAccess site and see who "donated" how much.
$2M+ for the school board?
The question is: Why?
Anonymous said:
9:09: How do developers "buy" votes, exactly? Tie people down and force their hands? Send in absentee ballots in their names? Blackmail?
All you can "buy" is the P R to get your message out, and then, it's up to the voters to decide. So you're saying the voters are too stupid to do this, that if they see more P R for one side or the other, they'll automatically vote for that person?
The assumption that voters are too stupid to know what they're doing is also behind Hayes/Hernandez trying to overturn Prop R, because the voters were "duped," the truth was "camouflaged," etc. You think voters are too stupid to know what they're doing, that developers tell them what to do and how to think --
and so YOU people on this blog from zuma on, need to "explain" to them the error of their ways.
If ever there was a patronizing attitude to the voters and about democracy, you guys are it: yet you love to disrupt the democratic process at City Hall and elsewhere in order to "explain" this again.
People don't agree with you because they see without the blinders of mindless hatred, get it? They just plain don't agree with you, because the don't WANT to. They elect the people they do agree with, not you.
Anonymous said:
zuma at 7:12: We elect people who we think can best represent us, knowing what we can find out about them, then let them use their brains, instincts, intelligence, education, and whatever else they bring to the table to do so -- we do NOT have a right to expect to micromanage every decision they make, nor should they let us. Start worrying when electeds can't think for themselves without asking your opinion on every matter.
Of course, when they're not sure, they do attend community meetings, pass out flyers and ask for input.
You are certainly free to send your input, by email, writing or phone, or to attend appropriate meetings, and speak in the same context as other constituents.
They don't need YOU micromanaging their every move; it's distracting from their real work and annoying.
Anonymous said:
You guys still don't get it.
ZD has been elected by himself to be self-appointed judge of what is right and what is wrong with the LAUSD, now that he is PNG at City Council and the Mayor's Office.
Soon he'll get his loudmouthed, ugly, smelly ass bounced from LAUSD and will move on to another gig where he can beg donations to paypal to pay for his food, coffe and van gasoline.
So, everyone needs to listen to him (if you can follow the Eminem wannabe jive talk)and follow his advice.
So far he has Matt Dowd (his van-mate) for a following.
Any takers?
Zuma Dogg said:
That's it spinlosers...
FULL ANTHONY ROBBINS THREAD INCLUDING VIDEO OF HIM HIGH FIVING AL GORE AT A SEMINAR DROPS AT MIDNIGHT...
THE DEMOCRATIC POLITICAL MACHINE IS LOSING AN ENITRE GENERATION OF SPINNERS TO PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T HAD THE PROPER TRAINING IN THE ART AND SCIENCE OF COMMUNICATION...
BILL CLINTON WASN'T TOO GOOD TO BE TRAINED BY TONY ROBBINS, BUT YOU THINK YOU ARE TOO GOOD...HA, THAT'S WHY YOU ARE STUCK SPINNING ME!!!
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!
What an embarassment to paid spinflys!
Anonymous said:
Deming, then Robbins. Who else do you give figurative head to these days?
You are an uneducated starfucker, picking up little dribbles of excrement from these stars.
Can't you just learn proper English, spelling and punctuation, then learn to think for yourself?
By the way, we all make a living and live in real houses and drive nice cars, have families and a life.
How about you, loser?
Anonymous said:
Once again, Krackover gets it all wrong. If Zuma is a Robbins et al groupie, Krackover is the definition of a Villaraigosa groupie (hey, Phil, how does that Villaraigosa sausage taste?)
Anonymous said:
People vote for someone or something that they feel they will benefit from. If someone is apathetic and they dont care, the money machine hires people to voye. They may not pay them with money, but the do promise jobs, approvals, etc. Elect AV he'll get all of legat without having to go back to Mexico or San Salvador. How many 'illegils" voted with phony dirivers liceses?
David Shein said:
Cronies v. Zuma Dogg,
Zuma has credibility here because no one is paying him to spin anything. I love that ZD has garnered the attention of such refined spinners who spell well.
The problem with you spinners is that you fail to express any skepticism regarding your side and therefore many of your comments are inherently disingenuous. The rest of your comments are viewed in that context.
I agree that government officials should be free to operate without ZD micromanaging them, but I don't think that it can fairly be stated that ZD is micromanaging branches of city government. Are you claiming ZD has that much power? All ZD is doing is shedding light on what the mayor and the school board are doing. It may be the case that ZD has ideological differences with the school board, but the facts are the facts and the cronies do not seem to be disputing them. The best argument the cronies can summon is that the other side was just as bad when they were in the majority. The cronies are just upset that Zuma Dogg, of all people, is able to expose their machinations.
ZD is rightly concerned that an unchecked school board will resolt in the spreading of crony-ism as friends and political supporters are given lucrative contracts with very little oversight.
And we know that there will be little oversight because the plan has been written and was written by the insiders who will benefit from it.
The cronies and their bosses just don't want people looking into the sausage.
What is with the ad hominem attacks? You have wives and kids who probably (I say probably b/c this is just an educated guess) hate you because given your status as political operatives standing up for who ever is paying you, they understand that you are greedy and have you have no soul.
Gary Fouse said:
Has that guy, Brewer, who is heading the LAUSD, learned to pronounce the mayor's name yet? (Vilagarosa)
gary fouse
Anonymous said:
10:12
Go back an look for the correlation between money spent in elections and votes received. There is a well known and documented link and you know it.
The truth is that most voters do not bother to educate themselves. They base their opinions on how many pieces of mail they get and/or how many times they have been touched by advertising.
Money buys that advertising.
If your assertion was true, why the expenditure of $2M+? Why not trust the voters to make the "right" choice?
Note that the point is not if the current school board/the mayor are no the right track or wrong track on education. They may be.
The point is that developer/high-roller money heavily influenced/bought this election.
The question is what was promised in return and by whom.
A sampling:
HISPANIC EXPRESS, INC. $50,000.00
J.H. SNYDER COMPANY, LLC $50,000.00
MANI BROTHERS, LLC $50,000.00
OCCI PETROLEUM CORP $50,000.00
BENY ALAGEM $75,000.00
AEG, INC. $100,000.00
AP PROP, LTD. $100,000.00
DAVID I. FISHER $100,000.00
MARC NATHANSON $100,000.00
WESTFIELD $100,000.00
ZENITH INSCO $100,000.00
JERROLD PERENCHIO $500,000.00
This is just one of the committees under control of the mayor. The other one had the same people and similar additional amounts.
Anonymous said:
6:14, Tony Baloney: The fact that people are trying to get rid of this fool and his followers doesn't mean he's significant at all: why do people expend so much energy swatting a fly? Because it buzzes around and annoys and distracts them, is totally irrelevant and unnecessary, and takes society back to the swamps and holes the crude peasants supposedly crawled out of centuries ago. As a society, and City, we have tried to be open and accommodating to all, regardless of status: but all it takes is a few pesky, big stinky, disease-ridden flies and fleas to turn everything into a stinky, smelly barn.
It is OUR taxpayer resources and time the fool has been wasting: let him get his own public access show, and no one would care.
By the way, are you the one who wrote the longwinded attempted whitewash and "defense of Zuma" in his latest thread? What's in it for you, Mr. Tony Baloney Potatohead?
David Shein said:
If my face is on the "long winded defense" of ZD then I wrote it. I don't post anonymously.
I don't have a stake in your spat.
I am simply amused by your approach. Once again, in your latest comment, you resorted to slurring ZD, calling him a fly, a mere nuisance. I doubt that is what you think. Do you consider yourself a fly swatter? An anonymous fly swatter?
I should state for the record that I do not know what the mayor's plan is for schools and I don't know what the plan was previously. Enlighten me.
Perhaps you would be more persuasive if you would discuss the issues on the merits.
Anonymous said:
Mr. Potatohead: Yes, I do consider myself a flyswatter in this case, as do many, many, many people...The same many, many who have tried to reason with the pesky disease-ridden fly, to no avail, wasting their energies and breath -- better used elsewhere. For flies have no reason, do they now? Nor any purpose. That's why he's just a fly. Shoohh, fly, don't bother me.
David Shein said:
There's more to it though, isn't there? Lets at least say that ZD is a really, really, big fly.
I'm sure Dick Cheney swats at flies too.
The fly analogy just doesn't work. Get more creative.
Anonymous said:
9:27: Potatohead, you just won't get it. No one wants to bother "getting creative" with the fool, not because he's a big fly, but because he's just a fool. And all we want, is for him to use his own platform, not city's, or he will be made to. And that's an embarrassment for him and a waste of time for everyone. -- Get it into your head: we really, really think he's a kook, psychotic timewaster.
By the way: where did you come from? Just invent that ID after a while being anon? And don't say you show your face/ don't post anon: you're using a deliberately unrecognizable photo under a hat, could be anyone.
So pretending to be above us all by and "using my face" is as phony and pretentious, as is your "advice."
You could be zuma himself, even.
Zuma Dogg said:
11:05pm,
You are a confused loser. You are just so, so confused the ghetto boys wrote a song about you.
"Mind Playin' Tricks on Me"...yours sure is.
David Shein said:
Look at this anonymous ZD hater trying to figure out who I am. Are you searching for more potential flies to swat at?
Who are you? Who pays you? Why do they pay you to come over to comment on ZD's blogs?
Public comment is for the public of which ZD is a member. Be honest, what do you dislike about ZD at City Hall, the "inconvenience" or the "truth?"
Anonymous said:
It will be interesting to see if this board majority can do any better than the last mayor controlled LAUSD majority under Riordan.
Romer. in fact, did improve test scores, built thousands of new classrooms, and had relative labor peace during his tenure, but the Mayor and the times trashed him unmercifully. Let's see if the Times tune changes now that Tony's in charge.
Anonymous said:
If Antonio is as successful in improving the LAUSD as he has been with other school districts, then we'll be seeing scores going WAY up. He and Assembly Speaker Nunez represent what I like to think of as a "Dream Team" for getting California's schools back on track.
Anonymous said:
huh? what schools are you talking about?
Anonymous said:
3:31, just because you want to deny Antonio the recognition for his past successes doesn't mean you have to lie to everyone.
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