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Thursday, October 26, 2006

String Theory And ACLU Hypocrisy

We all know the ACLU has filed lawsuits to prevent the display, on public property, of crosses.

Well, what if there were a city, hypothetically speaking, that allowed a congregation to place small crosses at the top of thousands of street lights, and to run rosary beads between those streetlights?

The ACLU would file a lawsuit to stop it in a New York minute, right? Right.

Why then, have the ACLU's armies of lawyers sat idly by while Orthodox Jews have been using public property in the City of Los Angeles -- including street lamps -- to display icons of their religion?

Specifically, the Orthodox Jews have been stringing fishing wire from streetlight to streetlight, using a bracket they call "the Teichman adapter," and now they want to run it along the beach, too. (The area inside the string is called an "eruv.")

So how about it, ACLU? You say you want the separation of church and state. Do you also want separation of synagogue and state? Or do you have a double standard? If rosary beads, rather than sacred string, spanned the public poles, would you still be sitting in your offices, or would you instead race to the court to file a federal lawsuit for an injunction?

Here's an article on the effort to string the wire at the beach: http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-me-venice25oct25,1,1319168,full.story
Here's the website of the people who maintain the string: http://www.laeruv.com/adapter.htm
Here's the current perimeter of the string: http://www.laeruv.com/eruvborders.gif


Anonymous Anonymous said:

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October 26, 2006 10:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter, what are you talking about? What Jewish string, where?

October 27, 2006 3:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'll forward the rhetorical question to the local ACLU and wait for a reply . Will let you know if & when I receive same. Anon/ACLU card-carrier.

October 27, 2006 6:59 AM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

You can find out more about where they are by going to the URL's listed. I hadn't noticed them before, but now that I've read the article, I see them all over the place in my travels. It was the same story with the cross on the County Seal: I think most of us never knew it was there until the ACLU made an issue out of it.

October 27, 2006 9:38 AM  

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October 27, 2006 11:08 AM  

Blogger Councilman John said:

Off topic comments have been removed.

Please keep the comments in their appropriate threads. You guys should know this by now.

October 27, 2006 11:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No doubt there would also be an uproar on local conservative talk radio if Muslim groups wanted to start creating religious boards within Los Angelus using public property. Would be a big story on 640am and 790am talk radio. As you note, if a Conservative Baptist church said they wanted to start stringing lines symbolizing something for the their church, there would not be a chance that would ever go anywhere. Interesting. I had absolutely no idea this was taking place.

October 28, 2006 8:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How do you find and/or recognize a Jewish string?

October 30, 2006 12:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How is fishwire a religious object? The only people that know it has religious signifigance are the people that use it.

I don't even know where it is and I live in the neighborhood where it is probably most utilized!

The difference between the eruv and a cross is that I can tell by looking at a cross that it stands for Christianity and the values that go with the morsels of wood Jesus died upon.

Can you make the same judgement about an Eruv just by looking at it? And knowing what an Eruv does, it still only tells me that it extends the boundaries of a house so an Orthodox Jew can carry her child or push a babybuggie on Shabbat and the holidays. Not exactly a symbol of Judaism. Heck, I wouldn't consider it a religious symbol at all. Can you say the same about a cross on a hill?

The argument Mr. Moore presents compares apples and oranges. What would rosary beads on streets lights do? What purpose would they serve? Does it improve the quality of life for a group of people? How? Is it free of symbolism?

I can answer those questions for an eruv. I can't for his comparison.

October 30, 2006 1:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

After they string wires all over the city, so that Orthodox Jews can be "inside their house" even while walking down the sidewalk, I'd like to fill in all the sidewalk cracks around town.
After all, I'm a little worried that someone will step on one and break my mother's back.

November 20, 2006 3:00 PM  

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