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Wednesday, September 06, 2006

The volley continues - Westchester NC joins opposition

The Westchester/Playa Del Rey Neighborhood Council turned up the heat last night and not only opposed Measure R (Term Limit Extensions) but H (Housing Bond) as well.

I have to wonder out loud that maybe if the City Council would have -- FOLLOWED THE CHARTER -- and provided time for Neighborhood Councils to provide input this wouldn't be happening.

"NCWPDR opposes the bond due to the lack of input by neighborhood councils as required by the Early Notification provision in the City Charter"

Note to City Council: This action was both foreseeable, and preventable.

Below is the text of both motions passed unanimously:

To: Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, Los Angeles City Council, and Los Angeles Congress of Neighborhood Councils

Re: Council File 06-1800-S3, Proposed $1 Billion Affordable Housing Bond, Measure H

Resolved, that the Neighborhood Council of Westchester/Playa del Rey opposes Los Angeles City Measure H, the $1 Billion Affordable Housing Bond, on the November 7, 2006 general election ballot and encourages all registered voters in the City of Los Angeles to vote against Measure H. NCWPDR opposes the bond due to the lack of input by neighborhood councils as required by the Early Notification provision in the City Charter, the cost and the market timing of the proposed bonds.

NO ON MEASURE R- TERM LIMITS EXTENSION
Neighborhood Council of Westchester/Playa del Rey Resolution and Community Impact Statement on Council File 06-1800-S1
WHEREAS Ballot Measure R is entitled "Councilmember Term Limits Of Three Terms; City Lobbying, Campaign Finance And Ethics Laws. Charter Amendment And Ordinance Measure"; and
WHEREAS the Measure mixes two separate issues on a single ballot and obscures the largest reform, which is to give City Councilmembers the possibility of four more years in office; and
WHEREAS the City Attorney has advised that, as such, the Measure may not conform to State law and therefore makes the City vulnerable to costly litigation; and
WHEREAS the City Attorney has also suggested that the Measure may in fact weaken current City Ethics standards; and
WHEREAS the Measure was drafted by a law firm which represents the interests of lobbyists; and
WHEREAS the City Ethics Commission, an independent watchdog panel created by voters, was denied the opportunity to approve or reject the recommendations, nor even to review the proposal and/or to make recommendations for revisions before it was adopted; and
WHEREAS the Measure revises current standards and will allow lobbyists to remain hidden from public view until after winning favors for a client; and
WHEREAS the Measure was rushed through City Council hours after its arrival; and
WHEREAS there was no Early Notification to Neighborhood Councils, as required by the City Charter; and
WHEREAS our stakeholders were refused an opportunity for informed participation in drafting the Measure; and
WHEREAS the Neighborhood Council of Westchester/Playa del Rey insists that Los Angeles city government remain open and transparent and include opportunities for public participation in all decision-making processes; and
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Neighborhood Council of Westchester/Playa del Rey opposes Ballot Measure R and urges its stakeholders to vote "No" on November 7; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Neighborhood Council of Westchester/Playa del Rey opposes extending term limits from two (2) to three (3) four-year terms for all Municipal offices.


Well... Ray Charles could have seen this coming.

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UPDATE***BREAKING NEWS***

Judge O'Brien suggested that voters may be disenfranchised by being asked to decide two seperate issues on one ballot. He has taken the matter under advisement and is anticipated to issue a ruling in the next few days.

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122 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wait! Is it possible? You mean it isn't just "Valley failed secessionists" that are lining up to oppose this???

Let us sit back and see today's spin shall we?

Hold on, let me get some popcorn this could get entertaining.

September 06, 2006 1:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is gonna be bad bad bad in November.

I'll bet none of this passes.

September 06, 2006 3:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OK, it's the guy from the East Coast again. Here is my take on all of this stuff.
To Jim Alger, Walter Moore and Zuma Dogg: You guys are not IN politics. You are at best, advocates and defenders of policy and issues that you feel are a threat to YOU and YOUR way of life. When you become an elected official, you can say that you are "a politician from California", or "IN politics". Walter is a has been candidate who never was, and never will be.
Just because some members of NC's vote for a particular issue or measure does not mean that they represent the people of their neighborhood. For every 1 active member of an NC, there are 10 non-active members. Hell, i know about my NC back in L.A., but i get more accomplished by not being part of them and going directly to my CM for things that i want changed in my neighborhood. And it works out fine.
Many of you just like to hear yourselves talk and believe your own bullshit. What may be best for YOU, may not be best for the citizens of Los Angeles.
Do you realize that neither one of you all will ever be elected to a citywide office? However, if for some reason you do, I will donate $500 to your campaign (as i'm sure you'll set up a PAC), give it to you myself at an event, and introduce myself to you as the guy who doubted you that lives on both the East and West coast. Maybe i'll bring one of my clients with me for you to take a photo with so that you can post it on your website to show that you have his/her support.
Let's see what comes down in November. Stop trying to be more than what you really are. Even Melrose Larry knew what to call himself a "political whack". Be a NIMBY but stand for more than only what is right for YOU.
No one ever talks about solutions on this blog. All they do is talk shit and pontificate. That's the AV way, i.e. "dream with me". Oh, and if you did not go to, and graduate from an LAUSD school, SHUT THE FUCK UP! I repeat SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Bithces!

September 06, 2006 5:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bitches! - I spelled it wrong for those of you that went to an LAUSD school.

September 06, 2006 5:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

JUST the facts. . .

Westchester/PDL NC - 672 voters in its last election, out of 55 THOUSAND residents (maybe 60,000 total stakeholders) . . down from nearly 1100 voters the previous election.

A decline of 40 percent in participation from one election to the next. No spin necessary; another one-percenter "speaks."

Nuff said. . .

672 . . . 55,000

OUCH!

September 06, 2006 6:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No wonder they're CROWING this a.m., that's the last NC of the agendized list posted here yesterday that's even close the having ONE PERCENT participation from stakeholders at election time. From here on it's ALL downhill, NC board members elected by their mamas, live-in maids, and dogs (maybe horses, up north).

The rest of these "volleys" are gonna be pisses in the wind by comparison. Hell, let's pre-empt the whole thing, and put cards on the table. From here on, we got one-HALF-percenters or worse left (that's .005 for you math geniuses)!

Hysterical Highland Perk - 283 votes out of 58 THOUSAND stakeholders

Marv's Vista - 209 votes ouf of 50 THOUSAND stakeholders

Sunland Tijuana - 305 out of 42 THOUSAND stakeholders (ooooh, broke 300! a BIGGIE)

Receda - 192 votes out of 62 THOUSAND stakeholders

Silly-mar - 207 votes out of 70 THOUSAND stakeholders

Van Guys - 275 votes out of 78 THOUSAND stakeholders

(And I won't EVEN go INTO the sub-100 debacles that were the three Westies (Mid City, North Hills, and North-frideg), cuz that would just be rubbing the biggest loudmouths' tiny "packages" into it. . . again).

The pattern continues, and now it's just plain SCIENTIFIC. The NCs "leading" the charge haven't even got platoons behind them, let alone angry armies. The NCs that DO have broader and bigger support are too busy making their communities better to bother with this imagined, opportunistic "war" against City Council.

September 06, 2006 6:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Westchester had nearly as many WORDS in its little proclamations as it had stakeholders come out to vote last time.

That's a sad commentary, to say the least.

Less words, people, more participation.

September 06, 2006 6:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Great, obviously the NC's are getting to the clowncil members and their staff. They've been up early spinning. Listen assholes YOU ARE IN DENIAL. The guys never said they're IN politics. They are volunteers who care about their communities. They have been getting more POSITIVE PUBLICITY then the Clowncil. No one gives a shit about the numbers. STOP POSTING. When you compare the numbers of people who voted for the Clowncil and the money they spent compared to NC's who are volunteers its over. Oh and to the East Coast Clown who says he goes directly to his CM when he wants something done, you obviously aren't talking about an LA CM.

TODAY WILL BE THE DAY. LET'S HOPE JUDGE O'BRIEN REMOVES PROP R.

NC's you have a lot of support from residents all over the city now. Don't give up.

September 06, 2006 7:27 AM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

It warms my heart to see that some of our fine council staffers are here bright and early spining away on my blog.

Here's where you guys don't get it. You ever heard of a snowball? This one is rolling downhill and getting bigger by the moment.

For sure, its not on Extra or ET or maybe even the Channel 7 News at 5, but the word is getting out.

We lament about the poor voter turnout, but its exactly those groups of people who will hear these messages through the new media and it won't be good for the Clowncil.

September 06, 2006 8:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There's one big difference here, folks! We can vote, and you can't (at least legally).

In case you haven't noticed, the momentum against the Mexicans and the Mexican mafia downtown and Sacramento is turning into an avalanche!

We don't run wild in the streets marching...we vote. And ALL of this city is wide awake now!

The House of Reps is afraid to move until after the NOV> election. Why? They know that we are going to fire all the pro-illegal supporters! You know that, and I know that!

And the same will happen in CA. The Repubs don't have a gubanatorial candidate this year...Angelides and Schwarzenegger are two peas in the Mexican pod. BUT in four years, we will take over Sacramento. Villagrossa will be finished!

In case you haven't notices, we are SICK of the illegals and their amigos! Vamanos....Pronto!

BOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

September 06, 2006 9:39 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Regarding 5:48AM's comments, "OK, it's the guy from the East Coast again. Here is my take on all of this stuff. To Jim Alger, Walter Moore and Zuma Dogg: You guys are not IN politics. You are at best, advocates and defenders of policy and issues that you feel are a threat to YOU and YOUR way of life."

Can anyone tell me whythis ineffective loser is so obsessed with commenting on the people who post on this blog, instead of bringing any REAL information to the table like the rest of us?

What a Spartan Spirt sideline loser. And it only makes my day everytime these non-contributing scardy cats loses control over my words.

Hey douchebag, how about a debate, in person to discuss politics, not personalitites. Just say, "Where and when!" But you won't cause you KNOW I would pummel you on anything besides personal attacks...THAT'S JUST WHAT I THOUGHT!

ZD

September 06, 2006 11:07 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Dear 5:48AM,

Please pick ONE side of your ass to talk out of...not both sides of your ass...

You say, "Stand for more than only what is right for YOU." Then you say, "Oh, and if you did not go to, and graduate from an LAUSD school, SHUT THE F*CK UP! I repeat SHUT THE F*CK UP!"

We'll I DIDN'T go to an LAUSD School, and don't have any kids who go to LAUSD, BUT...I'm fighting for what I believe is right, even though it doesn't affect me personally.

O.K., now YOU shut the F*CK up, shut the F*CK up. YOU LOSE EVERY TIME!!! And you are humiliating yourself, by getting pummled by a T-shirt vendor/rapper off Venice Beach called, "Zuma Dogg."

How does it feel, Spartan Spirit.
I hope you don't actually work at City Hall, because it would be sad to have such an obsessively-compulsed, dummy helping to run the city.

Zuma Dogg
I'm better than you, smarter than you, and in control of my emotions (unlike you).

Now go out there and try and do something effectively, for the first time in your career.

September 06, 2006 11:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

City hall underestimated the power of NC's or knew of it and tried to destroy it.

September 06, 2006 12:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Attention Guy from East Coast

You liar! Stop posting for your boss AV a hole.

September 06, 2006 12:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Do you realize that neither one of you all will ever be elected to a citywide office?"

ON THE CONTRARY, ANYONE, I REPEAT ANYONE IS CAPABLE TO BE ELECTED TO CITYWIDE OFFICE. WHY ARE YOU AFRAID CITY HALL STAFFER?

September 06, 2006 12:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:48 DAMN!! SOMEBODY IS MAD IN HERE! EXORCIST IN DA HOUSE!

ENTER PSYCOPATH JOE RAMALLO.

September 06, 2006 12:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The NCs that DO have broader and bigger support are too busy making their communities better to bother with this imagined, opportunistic "war" against City Council.

YEA DUDE. THE LA 32 NC IN MECHA EL SERENO IS GOOD EXAMPLE.

September 06, 2006 12:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Lots of blather, but NOTHING debunking the FACT that the very same NCs now aiming their pea-shooters at City Council still CAN'T bust through the ONE PERCENT ceiling in their OWN backyards (okay, maybe 1 or 2 of them are approaching TWO PERCENT).

And TWO PERCENT is okay if you're selling MILK at the bodega, children, but for getting supporters to VOTE in a general election, it means... YOU LOSE!

It's a NUMBERS game, and that don't mean getting 1-2 dozen stuffed shirt, wannabe CM-someday, NC prezses to bang on City Councilmembers during public comment time, or how many sub-1-percent NCs can you get to sign on and post their eloquent dissertations to their Websites (that no one knows are there).

It means how many TENS of THOUSANDS of people in those NC areas will bother to listen to their unknown, uncommunicative, under-elected mini-officials (most of whom wouldn't spend a dime of their $50K to introduce themselves in years 1 through 3 to the remaining 98-99 percent of their beloved "stakeholders").

No getting City Council to cower this time -- NOW you got to go to the peeps you been dissing, ignoring, neglecting, and nullifying since certification (all the while saying "I speak for them").

You can't speak FOR THEM, if you don't ever speak TO THEM, you whereas(es)-for-brains. And the time to do that was the past two years (NOT the next two months).

To them, you ain't squat! To you, they never was squat!

Catch 22!
Bummer, end of summer!
Coulda, woulda, shoulda!

September 06, 2006 12:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LA-32 is another sub-1 percenter. Not like that counts!

September 06, 2006 12:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hmmm, "League of Women Voters" versus a "neighborhood council" purported to be in MY community that never bothered to try and make contact with me before this issue. . . that's spending city money, but not on what I want it spent on (without asking me).

Not so tough a call.

There's definitely an "ethical" dilemma here, but not the one the improper NotPropR's want you to think of.

September 06, 2006 12:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's amend that 1:43 a.m., and say "Valley failed secessionists AND rich Westsiders".

Ha, now you KNOW the opposition is pissing up the wrong pant legs.

September 06, 2006 12:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"City hall underestimated the power of NC's or knew of it and tried to destroy it.

12:05 PM

Try reading what you write before hitting the button.

How the HELL do you "underestimate" the "power" of a dozen NCs and their leaders, none of which can break out of the sub-1 percent club, in terms of stakeholder voting and participation. People who spend all day e-mailing each other encouraging notes about their "power" when half of their OWN stakeholders and potential voters are on the OTHER side of the digital divide... can have POWER?

R U Sirius?

At the BALLOT BOX?

Again, LESS THAN ONE PERCENT elected most of these yahoos.

LESS THAN ONE PERCENT. . .

Anybody listening? You can't "destroy" what ain't there. . . City councilmembers go to these NC meetings and SEE with their own eyes that THERE'S NOBODY HOME (just like on this blog).

Hello??

September 06, 2006 12:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I try not to cut and paste but 5:48 has talked so completely out of his ass that it demanded a response...

To Jim Alger, Walter Moore and Zuma Dogg: You guys are not IN politics. You are at best, advocates and defenders of policy and issues that you feel are a threat to YOU and YOUR way of life. When you become an elected official, you can say that you are "a politician from California", or "IN politics".

I know this pains people like you but according to the dictionary:

Politician:
1. a person who is active in party politics.
2. a seeker or holder of public office, who is more concerned about winning favor or retaining power than about maintaining principles.

That qualifies Alger and Walter.


Just because some members of NC's vote for a particular issue or measure does not mean that they represent the people of their neighborhood.

No shit Sherlock. You could make that argument for any politician but they are the ones with the attention of the public.

Many of you just like to hear yourselves talk and believe your own bullshit.

A little self-analysis here?

Do you realize that neither one of you all will ever be elected to a citywide office? and here you are about to contradict your profound all-knowing the future statement... However, if for some reason you do, I will donate $500 to your campaign (as i'm sure you'll set up a PAC), there is a difference between a campaign committee and a PAC you moron give it to you myself at an event, OK... have to stop you. You can't donate $500 and give it to yourself. Your making no sense.

Stop trying to be more than what you really are.

You should DEFINATELY take your own advise here. Your ignorance is astounding

Be a NIMBY but stand for more than only what is right for YOU.

When Alger stood up to DWP he didn't do it for him, he is a renter who doesn't pay water. When he stood up to Wal Mart he didn't do it for him, he has said here (just yesterday) he didn't care because it wasn't his neighborhood. He is supporting the No Home Depot campaign in Sunland Tujunga when he lives in Northridge.

No one ever talks about solutions on this blog. All they do is talk shit and pontificate.

Yes, such as yourself.

You have talked completely out of your ass as usual. Not knowing a single thing for which you speak, and making assumptions about people and their motives that you have absolutely no way of knowing. Perhaps you should take more of your own advise and "Shut the fuck up".

September 06, 2006 12:43 PM  

Blogger Councilman John said:

You kids have been busy. I'll say this much, anyone who doesn't believe the NC's are under attack has missed the boat.

The thing you staffers miss is that these unpaid volunteers step up to help their community without the influence of special interest money or a $150,000 paycheck. Yet you still attempt to impugn them.

You attack the Neighborhood Councils relentlessly for election turnout yet what has ANY City Councilmember done to help "prop up" their Neighborhood Council and achieve a higher turnout?

It was the City Council that passed the enabling ordinances for Neighborhood Councils, what have you guys done to support your own legislation?

When a Neighborhood Council complains it's elections are being interrupted by DONE what have you done to help them? Not a single thing.

But you guys downtown sure can point the finger at them quickly can't you?

Want to know why City Hall will lose? Because since the birth of this nation a Militia ALWAYS wins. Why you ask? Because what drives them is a passion for God, Country and a dream of a better life... what drives you is your next city-dispensed paycheck.

September 06, 2006 12:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I WANT TO ASK THE LOSERS WHO ARE ATTACKING NC'S THE FOLLOWING.

Why should LA voters pass Prop R? I'm not a NC rep but support them wholeheartedly because they are waging a war and are the voice of the people now, not the Clowncil members.

Now stop attacking NC's and answer the question. WHY SHOULD VOTERS PASS PROP R?

September 06, 2006 1:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

STOP THE WAR, IT'S BASED ON LIES, THERE ARE NO W-M-D's IN COUNCIL 3rd TERMS.

YOU'RE BEING LIED TO...

STOP THE WAR.

WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER.

GIVE PEACE A CHANCE.

ONE BULLSHIT NC LEADER with a vendetta CAN RUIN YOUR WHOLE DAY.

DELIVER CITY SERVICES, NOT "MISSILES"

yadda, yadda

September 06, 2006 1:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

not a NC rep but support them wholeheartedly because they are. . . the voice of the people now

Choke down the koolaid, then count to 10. Breathe deep and then tell me this is EXACTLY what you meant:

NCs leaders (the BEST of which got 1/10th as many votes as their city councilmembers, in their neighborhoods. . . the WORST of which got 1/20th as many), are "the voice of the people now. . ."

The THOUSANDS who voted for the sitting CMs in every community in every district in the city have now been TRUMPED by the mere HUNDREDS in those same communities (except West-by-Northridge and West-by-Midcity... there it's just DOZENS), and the City Councilmembers' 10-20 times as many votes and supporters are voided, because Junior on the local NC got elected as a a local "advisor" to the city's supreme legislative body.

No shit?

This makes Palm Beach pale in comparison. RIP UP the thousands and thousands of ballot that elected the CMs, the pres of East Bumfuckle Community NC just got elected with 116 votes (the other guy got 94) to a 2-year term to "advise" and he's pissed off that his councilmember forgot to say "mother may I?"

Read the labels on your meds, again, darling. There are certain kinds out there you're not supposed to take right before you go out and sit in the hot sun all day.

And it IS HOT in the Valley of Secession. . . damn straight.

September 06, 2006 1:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NC's represent the interests of the community

CM's represent whoever writes the bigger check

So yes, those "dozens" trump your sorry asses any day.

September 06, 2006 1:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The mere fact that there are so many anti-nc posts shows how scared the City Council is of losing this fight.

If you weren't scared you wouldn't be blogging you would be DOING YOUR JOBS!

September 06, 2006 1:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

HELL NO, WE WON'T VOTE. . .

ONE, TWO, THREE, THREE-AND-A-HALF (sorry, that's all the votes you got NC-guy), WE DON'T WANT YOUR #@$%*^&) WAR!

SUPPORT OUR NCs, BRING THE BOARD MEMBERS HOME

REGIME CHANGE BEGINS WITH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL

"We are the unmandated, led by the EVEN LESS mandated to do the vindictive on behalf of the not-yet-outreached." (Insert your NC reps name, here ____________)

September 06, 2006 1:46 PM  

Blogger Jim Alger said:

I feel the need to weigh in here.

I am not sure about the whole "war" analogy but there is a battle going on here between SOME City Council members/staffers (and City Departments)and SOME Neighborhood Councilmembers.

It didn't begin with the council file issue, but that was the final straw.

I must draw a parallel to the DWP rate hike fight that I led a few years ago. We opposed the rate hike, the DWP opposed us. In the end, not only did we get the rate hike kicked to exactly where we were willing to negotiate it to in the first place, we got a long term Memorandum of Understanding with the DWP. In other words, they "lost" more by fighting than if they would have just conceded. (although I would argue the MOU wasn't really a "loss")

Now in the end the council file issue will pass. We will get that but in the process some City Councilmembers have slapped the NC's so hard as to demand a response. So at the end of the day the NC's will in all likelihood get their council file issue, and defeat 2 different propositions making the "loss" greater for the City Council (not to mention humiliating).

Now what do these issues have amazingly in common?

When I fought the DWP rate hike I fought it 100% on the grounds that the NC's weren't consulted. That the NC's weren't given time to provide input.

That is the exact logic that the NC's are using now. Even if the measure is one we might agree with, the process was violated so it can not stand.

The irony is that these same City Councilmembers were screaming at the DWP about the process when it was the rate hike.

Go figure.

September 06, 2006 1:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

". . .those 'dozens' trump your sorry asses any day"

Remember that when those few dozens are all that show up on election day. And when the same dozens kick the NC loudmouths off their local boards for fiddling while Northridge burns.

September 06, 2006 1:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Some misguided, barely elected NC leaders here seem to think the poster nailing them on every aspect of their failure to serve their stakeholders is somehow a city employee.

WRONG

I've said it before. I AM AN NC board member (just not a misguided wannabe mock-turtle CM-in-waiting).

There are no council members or staffers in THESE messages (the one's destroying your credibility, which you did your OWN selves).

Who's your daddy?? It's another NC elected board member.

There's trouble in Paradise, junior, and the CM's ain't even here.

September 06, 2006 1:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dear Fellow City Council Staffers:

Since we're agreed that the NC's are meaningless and ineffective, why are we wasting so much time talking about them?

We need to spend our time better. We're not convincing those who read this blog. Let's have a meeting in the CD 5 offices and plan a strategy.

Everyone should come with at least legislative idea. It would be fun to get back to legislating.

But we do need an answer to explain to folks why were able to rush through R so fast, because it benefitted us, but it takes so long to get anything done that benefits the public.

Please keep this confidential.

September 06, 2006 1:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Comparing getting a city department/utility to back down (for awhile), versus convincing tens of thousands of voters that you've ignored at home that they should NOW support YOU in a citywide vote is pure stupidity.

Apples and oranges. Worse, it's bundt cake and alligators.

You got a city entity to wait bit longer (RIGHT before a city election, duh!!) before they started boosting prices again?

That NEVER went to a ballot... they caved. TOTALLY unrelated to the reality of 11/06.

At the ballot box, your status as neo-homeowner's groups that get CITY MONEY (oooh, doesn't that make you COLLABORATORS??) don't mean shit.

September 06, 2006 1:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jim Alger, put down the keyboard and GO DO YOUR OUTREACH!!!

September 06, 2006 2:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nobody believes you "just had to weigh in" Al-grrr.

You been posting all day.

Stop lying, save that for your next election.

September 06, 2006 2:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Can't destroy credibility they never earned (that's a "Greg Nelson" and now he'd like to pretend he never said it... because his allies against Prop R are the LEAST credible, LEAST mandated NCs officers in the city.

Bummer, Nelson.

September 06, 2006 2:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:59, 2:00, 2:00 and 2:02 Your posting out of complete desperation all day like a fool and accusing Alger of doing it?

The point he made is correct. If the City Council would have followed the charted none of this would have ever happened.

And if you think the NC's won't win at the ballot box, what are you so afraid of??? Oh that's right... convincing people that City Clowncil members don't deserve a 3rd term isn't as complicated as you would like to think!

September 06, 2006 2:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:06

There are more "anti" Prop R and "anti" city council posts here today (and every day) than everything else combined -- especially since someone pointed out early on this a.m. that all the NCs that have taken "anti" positions to date have the voting participation of about 1 percent, give or take, of their stakeholders.

So, who's desperate?

September 06, 2006 2:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sounded like a death-knell to me!

Time to drag out the Kamikaze planes, and recuit suicide bombers at the next "Alliance" meeting.

September 06, 2006 2:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dear Mr. Zuma Dogg,
Are NC's required to pay for Carnivals and Fairs organized by private parties?

September 06, 2006 2:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dear DONE,
Are you fags.

September 06, 2006 2:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So, IMAGINE if Prop R is turned back, and for the next 1-3 years, these same NC leaders have NO ONE to work with, move things through, and advise in the horseshoe, but PISSED OFF, TERMED OUT, lame duck councilmembers looking for other jobs, and the fastest ticket out.

Just HOW stupid are these "advisory boards"??

"Now that I've basically "fired" you from a possible third term, I want you to HELP ME get stuff done in our community for the next several years.

Yeah, THAT'll work. 2006 will end up looking like the "glory days" of NC productivity.

September 06, 2006 2:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Listen Alvin. Huizar is ONE TERM mistake.

September 06, 2006 2:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A City Council member is being investigated for allegedly accepting bribes from a developer in exchange for help with zoning permits, according to court documents filed Friday.

September 06, 2006 2:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

One important and legitimate role of the FBI is to investigate public corruption within government entities. For example, recently the FBI arrested a member of Congress for public corruption.

The Floor

September 06, 2006 2:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio Villaraigosa voted for the Matricula while full well knowing that the FBI concluded that the Matricula Consular is not a reliable form of identification

The Fly

September 06, 2006 2:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Henry Cisneros was one, but the former U.S. housing secretary fell from grace in a scandal involving false statements to the FBI about money he paid a former mistress in Texas. He is president of the Spanish-language television network Univision.

The Cook

September 06, 2006 2:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

POLITICAL REALITY

Villaraigosa is reluctant to cast himself as a Hispanic leader, which is partly a reflection of political reality. He has expressed interest in serving as U.S. senator or governor, neither of which he could win by catering solely to Hispanic voters.

"You're damn right I'm for Latinos, because for a long time nobody did, and I'm proud of that,'' he said. But he said he does not need to be reminded "every two minutes'' of his ethnicity.

To succeed Mayor Richard Riordan, a conservative Republican businessman who must step down after two four-year terms, the liberal Democrat might have to "be a lot more moderate than he's used to be being,'' said Bill Mabie, chief aide to state Sen. Richard Polanco, another prominent Hispanic from Los Angeles.

Villaraigosa opposes the death penalty and supports gay civil rights.

The Mole

September 06, 2006 2:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam, I work on Wilshire and yea I have seen Emma following Sergio around when he goes to the men's room. Those two are freaky!

September 06, 2006 2:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pico GIrl do you know Emma?

September 06, 2006 2:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Random thoughts this morning at Mayor Sam's sprawling Southern California research center:

What is Jim Hahn going to do after July 1st?
If an 11 year old kid can handle himself in the woods, why can't an 18 year old woman handle herself in Aruba?
How come no one has asked us to do a "Who are the hottest staffers on the 4th Floor" contest lately?
Why is Herb Wesson automatically annointed as the new CD10 Councilman when he has no plans to stay in the office and not skip to the County Supes?
Why is Weezy even thinking about jumping to the City Council when he can't keep the LAUSD on track?
How horrible working for Arianna Huffington must be for Andrew Breitbart to go running back to the arms of Matt Drudge, as reported by Luke Ford.
What is the latest in the soap opera of Sergio, Emma and the kids at the Federal Building? Does Emma really wait to see Sergio coming out of the bathroom?

How will MEAV cut the city budget? I'm glad he's looking at it!

Will Stuart Waldman give me a bumper sticker for his next Assembly run?
Can Boi from Troy keep out of trouble this weekend in Baghdad by the bay?
Will Snapple try to build a giant popsicle in LA since their attempt in New York failed miserably?
Its going to be a warm day in LA today - have a good one!

September 06, 2006 2:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Visibly, Sergio does not look amused placed near Mr. Hahn.

Emma

I see, O.O.I.

September 06, 2006 2:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I just want to say hello to all my fans on the 3rd and 4th floors and to the kids at the Federal Building. Hope to see you at the festivities!

Mayor Sam

September 06, 2006 2:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

See you there Mayor Sam.

Love,
Emma

September 06, 2006 2:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Are Sergio & Emma coming?

September 06, 2006 2:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Emma is hot, you will not know the difference if your target of a job or social situation.

Yours Truly,
MI5-Los Angeles

September 06, 2006 2:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why is everyone so in favor or term limits. Open your eyes people. Term limits have screwd up this City to unbelievable proportions. John Ferarro or John Gibson or Art Snyder never made decisions based on short term thinking. They always had their eyes to the future and the long term well being of this City. Can't you see hoe term limits has taken all that away!!

September 06, 2006 2:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

In a final act of desperation they begin posting nonsense that has nothing to do with anything/

September 06, 2006 2:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

We don't support term limits, we oppose them not following the process of including NC's.

September 06, 2006 2:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's play a game

As George Lopez says "Member...

Let's play
"Who Blogs At Mayor Sam?"
What city hall staffer blogs in da house day and night?

September 06, 2006 2:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's talk about girls:)

September 06, 2006 2:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's talk about city hall girlz.
City Council Staff
THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY

THE BAD-JOE RAMALLO
THE GOOD-NOT APPLICABLE
THE UGLY-TAKE YOUR PICK

September 06, 2006 2:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Laura -- OMG is she hot (too bad she's married) but I would do her in a second flat!

September 06, 2006 2:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Any Asian Chicks work in City Hall?

September 06, 2006 2:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ugly - Nicole Bernson over at 12 EWWWW fat, ugly and tries to be nice but is a selfish clod just like her dad. She sure enjoyed her junket to Europe so she could "see how they handle their trash" wink wink.

September 06, 2006 2:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm sure that's how long you take, too... a second, flat.

And, another second or too to clean up.

September 06, 2006 2:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:23

I was INVESTIGATED last night by the police for allegedly driving while INTOXICATED.

Then they found out I'm just a lousy driver.

Go figure.

Anybody can be investigated for anything (all it takes is some pissed off opponent or disgruntled former employee to pick up the phone).

September 06, 2006 3:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:00 O'CLOCK
Instructions followed.
Picked up phone
called
made complaint on councilwannabeman

September 06, 2006 3:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OH, I get it some of those 2:00-ish posts are "classic" Mayor Sam's posts from the glory days of '05, when the blog actual had some (minor) political influence.

It's like a "tribute" to the "golden year", like Elvis impersonators singing "Jailhouse Rock" after the original found out his hips were locked up through bad living.

Lord, I remember those days like it was just last year. When the angry snitches really WERE insiders, and it wasn't just Wacko Walter reciting the Times CA section verbatim, and providing insipid commentary.

MTV's "I LOVE THE '05" will return after this commercial message.

September 06, 2006 3:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"A City Council member is being investigated for allegedly accepting bribes from a developer in exchange for help with zoning permits, according to court documents filed Friday."

Who is this?

September 06, 2006 3:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who ain't it!!

September 06, 2006 3:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:06 PM Ramallo go fetch your lovers water or maybe some cue cards for his photo op.

September 06, 2006 3:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ramallo,

Did your lover get mad for the Florida Scandal?

Why Ramallo?

September 06, 2006 3:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Get back to work Ramallo!

No carbs. Just fish or chicken. And keep a take-out box handy in case he has to rush. Tea, please (green, with four packs of Splenda). Water (bottled, preferably room temperature.) And never leave his sight.

September 06, 2006 3:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

3:08 Gruel or Huizar?

September 06, 2006 3:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Had to change the subject... someone else was about to start posting neighborhood council election results, and they were all in NEGATIVE numbers.

Mayor Sam, did YOU vote in your neighborhood council's election? How about Wacko?

Be honest, don't start looking stuff up. . . you don't even know where or when they meet, and what the "hot" topics are on the agenda (for SURE it ain't boosting election turnout!)

Not in the Valley or Westside... bet the farm. If 100 votes was good enough for Alpheus Hodges, then it's GOOD ENOUGH for the Valley NCs.

September 06, 2006 3:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ANY WORD WHAT HAPPENED IN COURT TODAY? WAITING TO HEAR IF JUDGE O'BRIEN REMOVED IT OR NOT.

September 06, 2006 3:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Judge got naked and tap danced on NC reps.

September 06, 2006 3:33 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

As of the exact time of this post...there has been NO decision yet regarding "R", one way or the other.

ZD

September 06, 2006 3:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Brady westwater received 14 out of 250,000 votes.

this time he might top 300.
He is running in a category in whch you get to vote for three and the top three get the votes. So he will just be getting the same number of votes from the same people three times.

September 06, 2006 3:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yo, dumbasses, NCs didn't have anything to do with today's court action.

The Judge is considering the case and will rule by Friday. He agreed that the measure includes unrelated subjects. It is less clear whether this is prohibited by state law on local measures.

It is also not clear if the single subject rule even applies to referenda (i.e. a measure placed on the ballot by a legislature) versus intitiatives (a measure placed by citizen petition). Wouldn't it be like politicians to create a rule that is harder on average citizens than on themselves?

Legally, measure R is a referendum. Even though it was suggested by the Chamber of Commerce, they couldn't get enough signatures in time for the November election, so the Council did it for them. That little technicality might be the thing that saves them.

September 06, 2006 4:01 PM  

Blogger Councilman John said:

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September 06, 2006 4:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ironically the best thing that could happen from the City Council perspective is for the Judge to throw this out.

That way the NC's can't claim victory when this goes down an an unbelievable ball of flames in November.

September 06, 2006 4:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That way the NC's can't claim victory when this goes down an an unbelievable ball of flames in November.

AND you can make believe those sugar-plum fairies dancing out your unsubstantiated arse are actually little bitty green men from Mars, in order to help you continue to justify wearing that aluminum foil beanie to bed at nights.

THE NC "LEADERS" OF THE ANTI-PROP MOVEMENT GOT WAY LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THEIR OWN STAKEHOLDERS, AT HOME, NEXT DOOR, AND DOWN THE BLOCK -- TO VOTE THEM IN!

What part of "no mandate" don't you people get?

September 06, 2006 5:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

City Hall is terrified.

September 06, 2006 5:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen:

To the gentleman from the East Coast who said he would donate $500 to someone from an NC who is a candidate for office. I challenge you to make good on your offer. There is a State Assembly candidate who served on a Neighborhood Council - Samantha Allen-Newman. I've had the pleasure of speaking with Ms. Allen personally and she doesn't talk "shit" but speaks with confidence about solutions, as you would say. She has proven to me that she can sail against anyone and that she is the mistress of her own ship. She has my respect and endorsement and I know she'll do the NC system proud when she gets to Sacramento. So pony up or piss off. And don't pussyfoot around and say 'well, I only meant citywide candidates." Bollocks. Stand and deliver, man or stand aside.

Bashing Zuma Dogg is bad form, and you sots know better than to that. But then again, bad form is good politics. I look for Mr. Dogg to make quite an impact on the sots and Villabarbosa. I might even be persuaded to appear at a Zuma benefit with my clients. Oh bugger, that means having to get dressed up.

And the other poster was correct, NC members volunteer their time because they've been empowered to do the work that sots won't. But it's not about empowerment. It's about arrogance, ignorance and neglecting to uphold an oath of office.

There is a solution and its one that I have advocated for a while now. Four of Villabarbosa's friends walk the plank in November. The rest follow in March. Savvy?

And yes, the sots at City Hall are terrified. They should be. Pirates take no prisoners.

September 06, 2006 5:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:48am: I suggest that anyone who cannot decide which coast to live on permanently hasn't much to offer. I speak as a seventh-generation native Angeleno!

September 06, 2006 6:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Reconquista Alert:

National Latino Congress Begins Today In L.A.

(CBS) LOS ANGELES Over 1,600 Latino activists and leaders will meet in Los Angeles on Wednesday for the National Latino Congress, which will last until Sunday.

Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, D-Los Angeles described the event as "the most significant gathering of Latino leaders from across America since the civil rights movement of the 1960s and 1970s."

September 06, 2006 6:23 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Cpt. Jack (5:52):

You say, "Oh bugger, that means having to get dressed up."

Check my videos on my website www.ZumaDogg.com, and you will see you NEVER have to dress up for a Z.D. fundraiser. A pirate's outfit would be perfect!

ZD

September 06, 2006 6:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

South American Congress in L.A?

What the F***K?

September 06, 2006 6:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why do we pay politicians?

September 06, 2006 6:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEMO TO THE "LA ANTONIA TIMES"

Scribe Clayton, as the News page Editor, what was the reason why you kept pictures of our caring "DEAR LEADER" Mayor Polloraigosa, out of todays fish wrap? After all it is not everyday that a mayor has to give aid and comfort to a ill constituent. I would think that The photo of our "DEAR LEADER" carrying that ill child would been plaster on Page One above the fold. Just maybe you were told the same thing by his press people also.
By the way, are you scribes keeping abreast of the on-line "DIOLOG" between the "staffers" and the "NCnistas"? With the "BOSS DOGG", ALGER, MOORE, and company leading the way the Revolution is underway to bring Democracy back to us average Joes and Janes. Shout Out to the "pirate". When will the ship set sail up the LA River to shell City Hall with shots loaded with the lies and falsehoods of this corrupt regime?

DISCLAIMER
this daily review of our beloved fish wrap is not authored by one Jaime. DARGZILA

September 06, 2006 6:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LOS ANGELES -- NBC4 has already aired in-depth reports on the possible underground gas dangers at the Playa Vista luxury community.

August 2006 Public Hearing

There are new questions as NBC4 focused on a city agency and how it's handling the area

Following is a verbatim script from the on-air report.

INFOMERCIAL: It's Playa Vista, a national model for urban living that's being studied around the world.

PAUL MOYER: It's an infomercial for Playa Vista, one of the most ambitious real-estate projects in the United States, home to 4,000 residents and counting, on choice coastal property near Marina del Rey.

STEVE SOBOROFF, PLAYA PRESIDENT: Traffic is better. The environment is better. We're making a positive difference in a lot of ways.

MOYER: Playa President Steve Soboroff makes a pitch that's all positive never mentioning the underside of this idyllic community, the presence of huge methane gas concentrations beneath the site.

UNIDENTIFIED GOVERNMENT SCIENTIST: There is a lot of concern with methane concentrations. If someone took an honest look at that, it could very much derail the project.

MOYER: This individual is a government scientist who's worked on safety issues at Playa, speaking anonymously to protect his job. He says not enough is known about the contamination problems at the site because, in his view, the city's chief watchdog agency, the LA Department of Building and Safety, has become a lapdog for the developer.

UNIDENTIFIED CRITIC: LA Building and Safety has been complicit with getting this project accomplished. They really don't want to know what the problems are at the site or how much threat there is to the human population out there.

MOYER: In approving Playa Vista in 2001, the City Council ordered gas safety systems installed, including protective membranes under the buildings and gas detectors inside. It also directed the Building and Safety Department to monitor these devices and keep other agencies informed. Critics say that where things fell apart.

FLORENCE GHARABIAN, CALIFORNIA DEPT OF TOXIC SUBSTANCES CONTROL: There is no monitoring data...None certainly provided to our department.

MOYER: Florence Gharibian of the California Department of Toxic Substances Control has complained repeatedly to city officials about the lack of inspection data on Playa's safety systems. Without it, she says there's no way to know if they're working properly and if the site is safe

GHARIBIAN: We're not really working with all the information we need to make those kinds of judgments.

MOYER: To assure oversight, the City Council ordered Building and Safety, together with the fire Department, to prepare annual reports on methane hotspots throughout the city, including Playa, and to create a Task Force, open to the public, to keep the community informed of safety issues

COUNCILMAN BILL ROSENDAHL: All that information should be disclosed. Remember we have 4000 people living there and their safety is my number one concern.
MOYER: Councilman Bill Rosendahl, whose district includes Playa Vista, recently asked Building and Safety for copies of the annual reports, which he expected to date back several years. All he got back, he says, was a single document, prepared recently, that contained few specifics and no mention of Playa Vista.

ROSENDAHL: It's confusing and it's potentially manipulative and obviously. I'm not happy.

MOYER: As for the public Task Force, he says Building and Fire officials tried to convince him that it exists when it doesn't. In this letter to them he accused them of "either an egregious mistake or a flagrant disregard for a Directive from the City Council."

ROSENDAHL: I'm insulted. The direction from the city council was clear of how this process was to go forward. It was stamped by the city council of Los Angeles. They seem to have ignored it.

MOYER: Also ignored, say critics, are city ordinances requiring an orderly approach to the issuing of Building and Safety permits at Playa Vista, including permits to insure the methane controls are in place.

PATRICIA MCPHERSON, ENVIRONMENTALIST: People could die as a result of these things not being implemented properly.

September 06, 2006 6:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

DGARZILA you are clearly insane.
A couple of weeks ago you drooled over AV now you are ANTI AV?

ARE YOU BIPOLAR?

September 06, 2006 6:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ALOYAL RED IN A DEEP BLUE SEA

September 06, 2006 7:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

AND GUESS WHO WORKS FOR JOSE HUIZAR?

Illegal Covert Campaign by Huizar Supporters Support Information

Text of Phone Message

Hey Nick this Alvin I’m calling around 12:20 and I apologize I’ve been in a meeting all night … umm … since I guess 7:30 tonight … umm… I’m not sure who, what, what he said… this kid, young man you ran into… but umm … yes I have been asked by a couple of people to see if they can use my house for … one.. a couple, several locations where volunteers can meet and umm .. pass out information umm… so I’m …umm … I don’t know what he said but, but volunteers, a couple of them, are meeting at my place and going from there. So I just volunteered our, offered it up … so umm… I am not going to deny that but umm… I saw the packet … and, you know there is nothing to bad about that, other than, you know, yea, old stuff. So just wanted to let you know … that..umm…that, yes, I did volunteer to offer up my place as a location where people could meet and go from there. So … umm… I hope that answers your questions and it probably doesn’t answer all your questions but that’s okay …umm ...and umm…we’ll go from there… sorry I called so late…take care … bye.

September 06, 2006 7:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

AVLIN PARRA...

The guy who SCREWED UP his own WIFE's school board campaign with unethical backroom deals and games? (Who was his wife's campaign consultant - OH YEAH, the same guy running Who-say HOSE-ars).

The guy who tore up the El Sereno neighborhood council for months with illegal recall moves that had DONE threatening to de-certify them, (and then he STILL couldn't get elected it's president after a real recall?)

The guy who publishes a record-holding community newspaper. Repeat winner, "MOST TYPOS PER PAGE" in the industrialized publishing world.

THAT Alvin Parra?


Somebody call Frederiqueuo the conman, again -- there's going to be yet another vacancy on Huizar's "individual endorsements" campaign Website.. First Tony, then Alvin. A SCUD, then a DUD!

At October 28, 2005 3:24 PM, Anonymous said...

All that campaign money, and they can't buy a muzzle big enough to deal with the Eastside's most inept attack dog.

Geez, Huizar, didn't Skelton tell you Parra was a bonehead? Dock that consultant's pay envelope $10,000 or so - just for that.

And you would think after trying to get all that traction off something a nominal supporter of Pacheco's did 3 years ago to nail AV with mailers, that SOMEONE would have put out a memo saying "NO slime package distribution."

September 06, 2006 7:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

WHO IS THIS FOOL ALVIN?

September 06, 2006 7:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ALVIN PARRA...

The guy who SCREWED UP his own WIFE's school board campaign with unethical backroom deals and games? (Who was his wife's campaign consultant - OH YEAH, the same guy running Who-say HOSE-ars).

The guy who tore up the El Sereno neighborhood council for months with illegal recall moves that had DONE threatening to de-certify them, (and then he STILL couldn't get elected it's president after a real recall?)

The guy who publishes a record-holding community newspaper. Repeat winner, "MOST TYPOS PER PAGE" in the industrialized publishing world.

THAT Alvin Parra?

UH OH, looks like there's going to be yet another vacancy on Huizar's "individual endorsements" campaign Website.. First Tony, then Alvin. A SCUD, then a DUD!

September 06, 2006 7:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ONLY A MORON WOULD LEAVE SUCH A MESSAGE.

September 06, 2006 7:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anything to get the lies out there again.

And, YES, Parke Skelton represented Parra's wife when she tried to run for school board. They's ALL hooked up together. The socialize together, they've got each other on speed dial and personal e-mail lists.

You KNOW where this came from.

September 06, 2006 7:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZUMA DOGG MY MAN! THE CULPRIT IS CD14 REPRESENTATION. READ ON MY MAN!

I guarantee you, Alvin Parra is a Huizar precinct captain, and has access to all the voter rolls and KNEW who to get those to (through the Huizar campaign office).

Better BURN those volunteer sign-in sheets Jose. Better yet, shred them first, THEN burn them.

They sure as hell weren't out there just going "eeny-meeny-miney-moe" we've got a thousand targeted slime packages, and which one of these 80,000 homes in the district should we plant this stuff at -- and then just HOPE there are actually some registered voters living there.

NOPE, working with inside info; STRAIGHT from the Huizar campaign orrofices.

Know who ELSE is a Parra partner-in-slime? Who already violated campaign rules regarding neighborhood councils during the mayor's race? (HINT: Look for the recently named public works commissioner with the bad multi-color hair die job). You know, the one's who's pissed that Pacheco's telling people she wants to add a new TRASH fee days after being sworn in.

She's NEVER far behind Alvin.

How would that be, a NEW CITY COMMISSIONER helping this little slime campaign scam!?

Some said Jimmy Hahn's commissioner's helped him - (but now HE'S gone). Maybe this REALLY is the second Hahn term.

September 06, 2006 7:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

HEY, clueless

...AND, address, telephone number, e-mail address (if given), party affiliation, number of times voted in recent elections, absentee, permanent absentee.

AND, (thanks for reminding me... even better), if the precinct workers have been doing their jobs calling, they probably also know:

-- HAVE THEY VOTED YET?

-- DID THEY VOTE FOR OUR GUY?

-- ARE THEY VOTING FOR THE OTHER GUY?

-- ARE THEY ON THE FENCE?

NOT SURE? Get a slime package to them, QUICK!

Now you're clued in...

September 06, 2006 7:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Parra was the one tried to get his wife tied in with the Riordan, Eli Broad big bucks for her school board race. When the letter came out he'd written to the mega-millionaires (saying "take her, she's "your" candidate... for the RIGHT price of course), it was a huge embarrassment to her, and her campaign people (Parke Skelton, et al... sound familiar?)

Parra was obviously feeling a bit left-out at the time, since he'd just been "kicked to the curb" as someone else succinctly put it here, when ADV carpet-bagged in to CD14 to run for CM in '03. Parra was told to "heal," not split the anti-incumbent faction, and wait for another turn like a good lapdog. (Looks like he's getting in line and looking for a bit more visibility

September 06, 2006 7:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Frank A. is hung like a donkey and sweet with the ladies.

gilberto

September 06, 2006 7:33 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

The staffers are clearly nervous.
The voters aren't falling for the same old BS anymore, and, thanks to term limits, that means the staffers may actually have to enter -- gulp! -- the real world!

Oh, the horror!

Hats off the Playa del Rey / Westchester NC. Way to go! Neighborhood Councils may just help rescue this city after all!

September 06, 2006 8:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Like I keep saying, the only way things are going to change is that all of you yahoos actually get off your butts and get out there to tell people what is really going on at city hall. The more folks you inform the stronger the opposition for this measure will be. Having the judge change the name of the measure is just the first step. It's time to stop talking boys and girls and get moving. Get folks involved and get them to vote in November. That is the only way things will change, with strong numbers in November.

September 06, 2006 8:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well I did go to and graduate from a high school in LAUSD and went on to graduate from a university. As a matter of fact my two siblings also attended the same high school and went on to attend a university and receive their degrees.

I am amazed at how many people I know attended LAUSD schools and continued their education at universities across our nation.

Maybe we accomplished our goals because we had a passion for learning and worked hard to achieve them. We worked all the way through high school and college to afford the costs. We took out loans and have paid them back.

We never blamed anyone for our lot in life, so we never considered ourselves victims. We were too busy working to achieve our goals.

Many of our parents never attended college, some of our parents never even finished high school. But we made it through.

But back then schools had rules. And all students had to follow them. Teachers were respected not only by the students but by their parents. Classes were crowded and sometimes we even shared books.

Today there are no rules. Students think school is a social event. They spend more time getting ready to go to school then on doing their homework. And they are shocked when they receive a failing grade running home to their parents blaming everyone else but themselves. And to add insult to injury their parents run down to the school blaming the school, teachers, books, learning aids and anyone or thing they can except themselves or their own children.

Just like they blame the police for gangs, not their neighbors who gave birth to them. They blame their city council member for the graffiti around their neighborhood instead of the criminal who did it.

We need to take personal responsibility for our actions or lack of. When people start taking responsibility for themselves and their children our schools will change.

The mayor can't even fix the problems of our city and to mask that by trying to take over the school district is painful to watch.

September 06, 2006 9:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

.....it was the mayor's quick thinking this afternoon at Foshay Learning Center that people were talking about. Midway through Angelides' remarks about becoming the next governor, one of the students standing on stage as a backdrop to the political speeches fell faint. When she collapsed, the mayor and other adults huddled around the girl. After a long minute of silence in the auditorium, Villaraigosa rose from the huddle with the girl in his arms and headed for the exit. As aides crashed the door open, the mayor carried the girl to a shaded lunch area, set her down on a table top and took off his suit coat for her to recline on. School officials moved in at that point, and the politicians returned to their speeches — and applause for the mayor. "She's fine," Villaraigosa said after meeting in the nurse's office later with the girl's mother and paramedics, who showed up in force: two LAFD rescue ambulances and a supervisor, no doubt inspired by the presence of the mayor and by firefighters union president Pat McOsker.

September 06, 2006 9:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Are we now living in a communistic state? Didn't we vote in term limits? So now these guys just think they can put this measure on the ballot to extend their terms (cuz they can't get a real job) and put it with ethics is the real slap in the face.

September 06, 2006 9:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Judge to decide on term limit measure by Friday
LA Daily News

Los Angeles voters will know by Friday afternoon whether a measure that would give City Council members an extra term and add new ethics rules will be on the Nov. 7 ballot.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert O'Brien considered a petition this morning to strike Proposition R from the ballot, but did not issue an immediate ruling.

Opponents who filed the petition say the measure violates the state constitution's requirement that measures address only a single subject.

Opponents charge Prop. R combines changing the City Charter to allow City Council members to run for a third four-year term with changing a number of lobbying and campaign finance disclosure requirements.

But the City Attorney's Office - as well as the League of Women Voters and Los Angeles Area Chamber of Commerce, which proposed Prop. R - argued in court today that the single-subject requirement has never been applied to a City Council-sponsored initiative.

Attorneys for the city and Prop. R proponents also argued that the two issues - term limits and ethics reform - are part of a package designed to lessen the influence of lobbyists and special interests on City Hall.

"As long as they serve a common goal, the single-subject rule is satisfied," said Valerie Flores, a managing assistant city attorney.

But opponents including neighborhood council activists, have argued that the two issues are not part of comprehensive reform.

Rather, they say, the ethics reforms were added in an effort to entice - or fool - voters into adopting the term-limit extension.

O'Brien today said that the stated goal of limiting the influence of lobbyists is not necessarily apparent looking at Proposition R.

He also noted that across the country, term limits have been controversial but ethics reforms have been popular with voters.

"It's not a stretch to suppose that combining those makes it a more palatable issue to put before the public, doesn't it?" he asked attorneys for the proponents.

Though it's common for legislators in Sacramento and Washington, D.C., to add popular items to controversial bills to help them pass, O'Brien observed: "It's different when we go to the public."

The judge added the main question he will be considering is whether the state's single-subject rule applies to Proposition R.

He must rule by the end of Friday, which is the Los Angeles County Registrar/Recorder/County Clerk's deadline to begin printing ballot information for the November election.

The lawsuit challenging Proposition R was filed by West Los Angeles resident Neal Donner with the support of U.S. Term Limits, a national group that supports term limits.

City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo's office hired the firm Mayer, Brown Rowe & Maw to assist with the case - although officials could not say how much they've budgeted for outside counsel until the City Council first reviews that information.

September 06, 2006 9:38 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

If that judge is listening...I'm disenfranchised, y'all...for having to decide two seperate issues on one ballot measure. It's called "R" and Rocky Delgadillo said, "Combining a Charter Inititative (requiring a vote of the people) with a local ordinance (that does not require a vote, only Council approval) is confusing to voter and may open up the City to possible court challenges. And it is our opinion that the Ethics portion, as it is, may actually WEAKEN Ethics reform.
All we are asking, is for you to be HONEST with the people, and don't hold Ethics reform hostage to another agenda." - R. Delgadillo, L.A. City Attorney (8/04/06)

Besided that judge, who I hope is listening, City Council dropped off this complicated Ballot Initiative at around 9:58AM, for the 10:00AM vote. And Rocky also mentioned that, "On something this important, you would want NC to weigh in, and I know some Councilmembers would like to see that."

Plus, all that other sh*t listed in the letter posted on this thread.

AND FOR ANYONE JUST TUNING INTO POLITICS FOR THE FIRST TIME:

You would have to ask yourself:
"How could council be so dumb as to try this flimsy, unethical measure when their own City Attorney's finding was that it could open you up for court challenges?"

Certainly Z.D. couldn't be THAT much more insightful than Garcetti's & Councilmembers???

So if the whole world knew about the problem, why try it?

CITY COUNCIL RAN A FOCUS GROUP AND KNEW "TERM EXTENTIONS" WOULD N-E-V-E-R PASS ON IT'S OWN...

So may as well try and get away with the "Ethics Reform" mingling, and take a shot.

So if it DOES get shot down by this judge...oh well, "term extentions" never would have made it anyway."

To me, this strategy is much more admirable from a Sun Tzu "Art of War" perspective, than just sheer arrogance and stupidity.

Zuma Dogg
aka: Mr. Anonymous Source Magnet

September 06, 2006 10:11 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

9:25PM...

HEEEEEEEELLLLL YEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHH!

I thought the first part of your post was actually Mayor V. spin, and luckily I kept reading cause I sure wish I could say sh*t as good as you said that!

EVERYONE PLEASE READ THE 9:25PM (sept 6th) POST IF YOU MISSED IT.

ZD

September 06, 2006 10:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ok.. Westchester has 51,255 residents of whom 41,516 are voting age. (http://www.westchesterkids.org/community/westchester_facts.htm)

Don't get in a tizzy about the number of voters participating in the last Westchester NC election. The election was held at about the time the mayoral General and Primary elections were held and after the November presidential elections were held and frankly, people were burned out going to the polls. A fact that was noted by the low turnout during the Mayoral elections.

Westchester's NC has a very good stakeholder membership. Probably the best in the city at over 6600 "registered" stakeholders. Not bad.

Registered stakeholders are residents, property owners and people who work in the community that actually take the time to register and become stakeholders. Not just people who happen to show up at a meeting. So 6000+ people is a pretty substantial number of residents that the city should not ignore.

September 06, 2006 10:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma Dogg
Who is this Alvin?

September 06, 2006 10:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

He is LA 32(El SERENO) Prez. Westchester may have 6600
"registered" stakeholders but LA 32 has 100

September 06, 2006 10:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:25PM, I'm the mother of an LAUSD student. I'm also a candidate for State Assembly here in Los Angeles. Perhaps I'm one of the fairly odd parents who make sure the lines of communication between teacher and parent are open and used on a regular basis. I refuse to abdicate the responsibility for the education of my child solely to her teacher. I will always endeavor to be of assistance to the teacher, and to make sure that learning continues at home.

Something you said struck a nerve, and that was "We need to take personal responsibility for our actions or lack of. When people start taking responsibility for themselves and their children our schools will change."

I want to add something to that. Taking that kind of responsiblity starts at the top, and I am reminded of how the Mayor and the Speaker of the Assembly took upon themselves the responsibility to make sure AB1381 made it through the State legislature despite the rather loud and obvious objections of the parents of the students that would be impacted.

I had a chance to read a copy of the letter that Alan Autry (Mayor of Fresno) sent to our Mayor. Mayor Autry pointed out in his letter that he felt that there was a responsbility to address the education needs of all of the children in California...not just Los Angeles. I wonder why that didn't occur to the Mayor and the Speaker.

My point is this: It's going to take parents taking responsiblity for their children and elected officials taking responsbility for upholding their oath of office. It's also going to take voters being responsible and getting out to vote in November so that change happens at the ballot box instead of being shackled to the status quo.

You have every right to be proud of your LAUSD diploma. While mine is not an LAUSD diploma, our diplomas are tangible proof that we are responsible, reliable individuals. Those diplomas show that we got our butts out of bed each morning and went to school. While there were a million other things we could have been doing, we stayed in school. We held ourselves accountable.

If only those who thought taking over the school district would do the same.

Samantha Allen-Newman
Republican Nominee/AD-45
myspace.com/SamForAssembly

PS: Had to share this, the API score for the LAUSD school my daughter attends went up 24 points to.....894. Failure? NO. Parent involvement? YES!

September 07, 2006 12:10 AM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

Where do you get the idea I am anti-AV?

I have a blog , supported HAhn in the last MAyoral Election ,, and have never once changed my mind about that. ANd I haven't taken the stuff from the elections down because bloggers are not hacks. We keep a record and documntation of everything that we beleive , even if that means we can change our mind.

I will always cling to the notion that AV sucked as a City Council Man , but as a city manager, as mayor he is

Antonio V ,has proven himself . Thus I support him.

The whole future of his political career now rides on the fact if huis LAUSD take over and how it was done is constitutional .

Other than that he is ok.

rumores are :

BIG O might be running for cd14

September 07, 2006 9:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You killed it bro. No way will I send you dirt from CH.
Your own site was the best idea to share dirt on politicians.

September 07, 2006 10:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh, the best of the morning to all of you! (Bows low and removes hat with flourish, throws hat up in air and catches it, puts it back on head and does a little jig)

THE JUDGE RULED ON THE MOTION. MEASURE R IS OFF THE BALLOT! The heartiest best wishes to two of my crew, Jeff and Jason as well as Mr. Donner. See this City Hall sots? Let loose the mainsail and foresails, this ship is coming about and we’re headed up the channel of the Los Angeles River. Pirates take no prisoners!

NUNEZ, PADILLA, ROMERO AND DELEON WALK THE PLANK IN NOVEMBER. Get on board lads, we have work to do!

September 07, 2006 11:20 AM  

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