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Monday, March 27, 2006

Immigration Protests Continue

Thousands of students are pouring out of class to resist pending federal legistlation designed to curb various aspects of illegal immigration. High schools all over Southern California report children leaving class. One young activist told students to educate themselves on the matter before walking out, if you're just doing it to ditch, save yourself the embarrassment. Still, having once been a teenager who walked out of class myself a few times, I know a good chunk of kids are just along for the ride.

In other news, a select group of student leaders were granted audiences with Mayor Villaraigosa and Lt. Governor Bustamante.

Summer is not too far off. It will be interesting to see if the protests peter out before then, or if we have a repeat of 1968.

45 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

These students are an example of illegals breaking the law. They stopped traffic by walking on the 110 FWY. What morons would do that??? Who are the organizers of these kids. There's reports of looting in South LA, cars being attacked while the students were walking in the middle of the streets. If they can't even obey the laws now they should all be put on a bus and taken back to Mexico.

March 27, 2006 2:50 PM  

Blogger joseph mailander said:

I haven't been able to confirm a thing, but I've heard of some students in some very unusual places today, from cellphone drivers. One of those calls was from the Hollywood Freeway...

But what I was eyewitness to: I saw students marching to and from John Marshall this morning. A group of about forty, all in white shirts, males and females, came by my home shouting "Viva Mexico" and then when they saw other students at the bottom of the hill they ran down to them. When they all assembled at Tracy and St. George, they marched southeast on Tracy. I think they were walking downtown.

Of course, this being a liberal enclave, myself and many of my neighbors stood on our lawns applauding them, cheering them on as though they were marathoners.

March 27, 2006 2:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You can view the images of the students stopping traffic on the 110 FWY on http://www.nbc4.tv/index.html?refresh=1200

Yes, they are criminals.

March 27, 2006 3:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

BREAKING NEWS
JUST REPORTED THE SENATE PASSED THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BILL

March 27, 2006 3:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

These kids are lucky to get a free education in the first place. For them to walk out of class is a big slap in the face of the taxpayers who are paying for their education.

The worst part is the LAUSD seemingly condones this, no wonder it is such a horrible school district.

March 27, 2006 3:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I used to be liberal but this is one issue that has made me more conservative. The sense of entitlement these kids have is astonishing. Their hackneyed political views are worse. What purpose is served by waving the Mexican flag or accusing citizens who want immigration reform of being racists? Why do they allude to “taking our land”? Whose land? Spain’s? The Aztecs’? The Asians that migrated over the Bering Strait? This type of provincialism is the cause of racial tensions. Ironically, liberals cheer them on even though they know these kids have no clue about the larger picture. Instead of looking at the social, legal, and economic consequences of this problem, they’re interpreting immigration reform as a personal attack. These “protests” have strengthened my view of the need for such reform.

And before any bleeding hearts try to pass maudlin stories about the noble migrant, hey I’m hardworking too. Do I get to ignore certain laws just because I’m hardworking and want a better life? Can I choose not to pay taxes? Why can’t I drive without a license or insurance? I’m only trying to get to work. Heck, even hookers and drug dealers work hard too. Why don’t we let them slide? Where are the sympathy and protests for all the hardworking citizens who want a break?

March 27, 2006 3:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Over 1500 students peacefully marched in the San Fernando Valley today, coming together from at least seven different high schools. They were not just ditching for ditching's sake - they stayed together, waving flags, holding signs and marching together in unity. A good number converged in the courtyard of the Martin Braude building. Speaking to the students, they all have a personal story as to why this is an important issue to them. They're not just along for the ride - the ones I spoke to believed in what they are doing. And, again, they were peaceful. There was a strong police presence - but they remained calm and behaved. Kudos for the students choosing to be involved in something they will remember for years to come. This is peaceful democracy in action.

March 27, 2006 3:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

BILL PASSES SENATE:

GOOD NEWS!

"All Americans wanted fairness and they got it this evening," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat who played a pivotal role in drafting the legislation, approved 12-6.

March 27, 2006 3:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To 3:50 -
What flags were they waving and why?

Are hookers on the street peaceful and behaved?

Are the protesters who shut down the 110 peaceful?

Sure they believe in what they're doing. Many 7 year olds believe in Santa Claus. They believe in a lie too.

March 27, 2006 4:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I wish the 500,000 would take their "Viva Mexico," and their flags, and go fix their own dang country, rather than bitching and moaning about the laws in ours.

March 27, 2006 4:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The other thing they need to stop doing is coming here calling us citizens lazy and unjust, all while using up our public services and plundering our jobs in an economy we citizens create and support. Then they talk about taking this land back. Why? So they can turn it into another Mexico with rampant corruption and poverty and not enough jobs for its people? Get ready, Canada. In 15 years ...

March 27, 2006 4:17 PM  

Blogger Archie Bunker said:

Viva Mexico!

Stupid Limosuine Liberals this is just causingme to vote Republican in 2006.

March 27, 2006 4:29 PM  

Blogger ubrayj02 said:

Jesus H Christ. Nothing brings the insanity of the modern suburbanite out in full view like a good-ol' immigrant rights protest.

It is obvious that people that complain about "illegal" immigration are really using it as proxy for ALL immigration.

Is it really that scary that people speak different languages and have different cultural, and physical traits, from you and your kin? Give it a rest!

The barriers to immigration our government has put up have forced millions into the black-market life of the "illegal" immigrant. Give these people a legitimate means of getting into this country, and make sure their rights are respected, and you'll have solved a dozen other problems.

About that paranoia, and alleged patriotism you trot out for discussions like this: how much do you really know about th republic you live in? Do you think waving a flag and "supporting the troops" makes you a patriot? Take a look back at the history of this country, and you'll see how we have prospered by investing in people. Invest in their education, in their health, in their desire to live in a civil life - that is America, that is patriotism.

March 27, 2006 4:30 PM  

Anonymous i luv 'merica said:

for the person who writes: they are criminals that's why we call them illegal immigrants.

there is an idea that was developed in the United States called civil disobedience. it's when you protest unjust laws. that is what you are witnessing in LA and around the country.

if you don't think people should stand up for what they believe is right, maybe you should pack up your bags and move to a country where this type of behavior isn't tolerated.

love it or leave it you un-American right-wing-nut.

March 27, 2006 4:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

you know dum-dums, if you hate the illegals, the proposed federal legislation should REALLY piss you off. It makes it a felony. That means jail time. That means you are paying to clothe, feed and house them as opposed to the status quo when you ship them back.

Also, all you hypocrites who get your lawn mowed or house cleaned by someone whose immigration status is unclear - you too will get to spend time in a pund me in the ass prison.

March 27, 2006 4:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No, ubrayj02, most people don't have a problem with legal immigration, but have a serious problem with illegal immigration. In fact, if business interests were serious about the so-called shortage of willing workers they would have pushed for increased legal immigration a long time ago. Problem is, they know legal immigrants are not as exploitable as the illegals. I actually support increased legal immigration. However I am appalled at these illegal immigrants who denigrate Americans and make demands that we support and accomodate them, especially when they have greater loyalty to another country - a country that doesn't provide them any opportunity and actually treats its poor more horribly than America ever could. If they truly consider themselves people who "play by the rules" they would return to their home countries, apply for US citizenship legally, and try to fight for increased legal US emigration for others. This sense of entitlement they have is unfounded. I'm contacting my representatives to demand reform.

March 27, 2006 5:02 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

Opposing ILLEGAL immigration is NOT the same as opposing immigration, not even close. I support people immigrating into our country legally.

People who want to move here need to show that they are healthy; that they have the financial wherewithal to avoid becoming a burden on taxpayers; that they are not criminals; and that they will learn English and support our country.

There is no legitimate reason to let people from Mexico "cut in line" ahead of the millions who would love to move here LEGALLY from Africa, Korea, and even from Mexico!

March 27, 2006 5:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Looks like the House will have to cool the passions of the Senate, or at least the Senate Judiciary Committee's amnesty plan -- and that self-righteous bloated buffoon Kennedy.

I really hope this causes a backlash and the VAST majority of Americans who do not support illegal immigration send a message to their elected officals.

March 27, 2006 5:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And you wonder why LA isn't competitive anymore?

Everyone with a high school diploma on up is leaving the state and all the while they're be replace by people with no hope of getting one.

And now we have Antonio urging them on!

Faster, faster, faster.. don't blink you'll miss the train wreck.

March 27, 2006 5:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The protests have shown that the Sleeping Giant has been awakened, and it is beautiful to see such unity, in a peaceful manner. When we are attacked, history has shown, (Prop 187), more Latinos have become citizens and registered to vote, therefore, further giving the electoral power to the Democratic party vs. the Republican one. So as much as many are against immigration, or the children of immigrants taking over "American jobs," there is power in numbers and in education.

March 27, 2006 5:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What racist crap! Unless you're a Native of this land (i.e. Tongva, Gebrielino, Navajo, etc.) um, you're an immigrant. Read fucker and maybe you'll remember that the border crossed Mexicans not the other way around dum dum anonymous....oh and by the way, i am sure you eat food picked by immigrants unless of course you a)grow and pick your own food b)grow your own cotton and make your own clothes and c)built your own house.... (82% of California construction is built by immigrants both legal and illegal)...what i would do to debate your ass..

March 27, 2006 5:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There are many Latinos that were insulted and embarrassed by these students today. 5 were arrested in Van Nuys, and in Santa Ana you can see the students throwing bottles at the police. They arrogantly walked onto the fwy breaking the law. Antonio came out twice and told them to go back to school and they booed. He finally had a press conf. he was sooooo pissed. These kids today had absoutely no respect for the law going up aggressivlely to cars and waving Mexican flags. Shame on them!! I'm sure their parents are disappointed. This is what we want in our city a bunch of out of control immature arrogant losers. HELLL NOOOO GO CONGRESS PASS THE DAMN BILL AND SEND THEM BACK

March 27, 2006 6:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There are two issues here at stake with illegal immigration.

1) Border security - You've got to be off your rocker if you don't think we need secure borders. Egyptians have been caught crossing into the U.S. from Mexico, etc. If we are serious about illegal immigration, it starts here.

2) Employment - On one hand these folks are taking jobs many Americans are too proud to do on the other we also have folks who buy in the sense of entitlement or join gangs instead of working and building a better life. I don't buy this legal vs. illegal stuff as much as others. Jews sought asylum here in the 1930s and turning them away does not make it right. We need to find a just and humane way of dealing with the population that came here and wants to STAY here. Marching with a Mexican flag does not move me as much as an illegal immigrant with a U.S. Flag. They want to be Americans and are willing to work to do it. Even if they snuck in here (the equivalent of jaywalking), they DO pay taxes and own homes etc.

If we can secure our borders (Mexico has militarized its southern border already) we don't need to worry about new influxes and we can deal with integrating what we have and removing the unsavory elements, where necessary.

March 27, 2006 6:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Can We ask you bloggers to go talk to one of these students?

Or are you a real power in one armchair?

Wake up and smell the refried beans!

March 27, 2006 6:35 PM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

if given amnsesty and these 12 million illegals become citizens and the majority of them are Mexican, GUess what they have dual citizenship. Do you know what that means they will be able to vote in the elections fo mexico. Literally changing that political landscape for a long time.

Must we speak of things we know absolutely nothing about.

March 27, 2006 6:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It was funny to see Antonio's staff running around like idiots. Now that he is mayor when is he going to hire people with some sort of an IQ. Dora Garcia is such a bitch, all City Hall staff can't stand her. Antonio is always yelling at her for being so stupid. What does he expect, she is a bank teller??

March 27, 2006 6:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Do you really think the Democrats are serving Latinos better than Republicans?

Republicans might have you pissed off on the immigration issue, but remember, its only those Republicans who need redneck votes. Even their leader, George Bush, is not on their side and is back Latinos.

When you put aside the immigration issue, Republicans are more in line with Latinos than the Democrats.

1. Choosing life - Latinos are pro-life overwhelmingly but Democrats who claim to speak for us are in favor of abortion on demand.

2. The family - No one is more pro-family than Latinos and the Republicans are more in line with us here. Democrats support re-defining marriage by allowing gays to marry and adopt children. We as Latinos stand for traditional values.

3. Church and God - We value our religion and the church is very important in our lives. Democrats wish to remove religion, outlaw Christianity. Remember, it was the Democrats not the Republicans who removed our heritage of the Cross from the county seal.

4. Hard work - We as Latinos have always worked hard for our families, even if we have to work 3-4 jobs. Democrats want us to be lazy and go on welfare and become a dependent class as they did to blacks who were once very prosperous in America before the Democrats took over.

When you look at the Democrats they support values not consistent with Latino life -sexual peversion, not respecting human life, laziness, government handouts, etc.

We need to educate and work with the Republicans on immigration because the other issues are too important to trust the Democrats.

March 27, 2006 7:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anonymous - you claim Latinos are "pro-family"? Really? What is so "Pro-family" about having 5 kids under the age of 5 when you can't even afford one? What is pro-family about an 8-months pregnant woman crossing the desert in 120 degree heat so she can assure herself an American citizen which increases her chances of staying her - but who cares what it does to her unborn child. I won't even get into the "hard work" part of this. And for all of you saying us whites all have hispanics mowing our lawns and cleaning our houses - and I have no doubt you're all Latinos who are saying this - just 20 years ago myself and my friends were doing these jobs. But my friends' kids can't get these jobs now because people assume they'll want too much money because the hispanics take such low wages. They also figure white kids will do the job, learn something else and move on. Illegal immigration has cost this country - California, Arizona & Texas in particular - a FORTUNE. What we pay for illegals education, health care and criminal activity is staggering. The schooling alone can NEVER be made up by taxing your crummy wages.

Why is not one single "latino" writer here answers the question we'd all like answered: Why don't these huge masses of illegals band together and fix their own country?

March 27, 2006 8:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If we substituted "Russians" for "hispanics", would the Hispanic contingency on this thread stand up and demand we let them all in? Would you see no problem with Russian suddenly being the language of the land?

March 27, 2006 8:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:13

Only one problem with your premise, this was never Russia. And the California State Constitution was written in Spanish. Again, look at your history - look at the history of this land. Nahuatl, the language of the Aztecs is in a language group called Uto-Aztecan languages. The Shoshoni - natives to this land, speak a dialect of Nahuatl. The land, the people, the language - that is what defines us. We didn't cross any borders, the borders crossed us.

But in democracies, majority rules. If you don't like it, why don't yo head back to Russia.

March 27, 2006 9:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's get rid of all the Mexicans and let's see if all these whities can stand paying $15 for a head of lettuce.

March 27, 2006 9:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's get rid of whitey and see what tax base is left to fund freebies for the illegals

March 27, 2006 9:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7:11

Try this.

Reach out to a Republican office staff--you get NO feedback

Reach out to Democrate office staff--you get feedback

If Republican Party wants Latino Votes...there must be change--internally

March 27, 2006 9:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Let's get rid of all the Mexicans and let's see if all these whities can stand paying $15 for a head of lettuce. "

So all 500,000 people were farm workers?

Ah yes.. another urban myth busted.

March 27, 2006 9:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Reach out to a Republican office staff--you get NO feedback"

That's because they left the State four years ago.

All the remarkable improvements to our schools and the fiscal improvements in our city's budget since then are courtesy of the Democratic Party! ;-)

This city's only a few years away from an implosion.

March 27, 2006 10:13 PM  

Anonymous Westside Mom said:

Hopefully they will keep going until they reach the border.

Who the hell needs these mutants!!!

March 27, 2006 11:02 PM  

Blogger Jennifer Solis said:

OK, I’ll admit it – I was one of the half-million congesting downtown on Saturday. My mother, who also went along, did so because many of her friends were marching, and it was a great social occasion.

For me, it was an opportunity to interface with about four dozen other students and confirm my suspicions that almost none of the participants knew anything about US history and culture.

The organizers of the march are the usual collection of “Reconquistas” and multi-culturalists who networked very effectively for weeks to get this turn-out. I must have received at least a dozen e-mails every day from different friends and groups reminding me to put the event on my calendar. Others were barraged with telephone calls stating that it was an “obligation” to show up and be counted.

I wish the students who cut class today (Monday) would be out in the streets every day to draw attention to this problem of immigration. The only way the issue can invade the public consciousness is to make the evening news on television.

The immigration bill that passed the House has two obvious flaws: making felons out of people who have been living and working here for years; and making criminals out of churches and their leaders, as well as other “Good Samaritan” groups.

I suspect that Rep. Sensenbrenner deliberately placed those clauses into his legislation so that he would have something to “give away” when the House and Senate versions arrive for compromise in a few weeks. The Senate bill that passed today is nothing but an amnesty procedure which even our President Vincente Bush says is unacceptable.

My mother took the “coyote express” to Los Angeles two decades ago because her family in Honduras had been swindled out of the family farm, and Mom had to help support her parents and four siblings. Upon arrival, she immediately learned English, and became a US citizen at the first opportunity. Before long, she was assistant manager of a chain variety store.

When I entered Union Avenue Elementary, she went over and insisted that I not be in any bilingual class, but rather placed in English immersion. Before that, she had obtained for me a public library card and made certain that I used it constantly. We spoke nothing but English at home until I was 12, and I was not allowed to watch Spanish television, even though Mom was addicted to the nightly novellas. She still is.

The point of all this is that the difference between the more than sixty percent of Hispanics that drop out of high school and the five percent that graduate from college has nothing to do with the schools, the teachers and especially the thousands of dollars per pupil poured into the educational black hole we call the LAUSD.

The almost universal ignorance of the students that were chanting “Si, se puede” as they marched up Broadway in regards to the language, culture and political realities of their adopted nation, speaks volumes about the failure of most of their families to assimilate, and therefore succeed in these difficult times of globalization and economic uncertainty.

The marches have created short term sympathy for the illegal immigrants (excuse me – I mean undocumented), but the net result will be to reinforce in the minds of a vast majority of the American population of the need to do something about out-of-control borders and the issue of sovereignty.

March 27, 2006 11:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It's in the genes!

Mexicans are full of beans.

I love the poster who coined the name Taco Villa! LA is a cesspool and who the hell cares what happens there!

Keep your retarded kids out of my neighborhood!!! I don't think I want them cleaning my house or tending to my garden. COOTIES!!!

March 27, 2006 11:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

THAT SO CALLED MAYOR vILLABOZO I SPELL THAT WITH A SMALL v HE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A TRADER TO THE GREAT CITY OF LA AND THE USA.WHAT HE DID TODAY WAS ONLY INSIGHTING LAWLESSNESS.THOSE KIDS BELONG IN SCHOOL 7 DAYS A WEEK BUT NOT HERE BUT WHERE THEY CAME FROM.THEY WOULDN'T BE MARCHING THERE!!AND WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T OWE THEM ANYTHING AND WE DON'T OWE THE WORLD A JOB.MAYBE MR.BUSH COULD USE A FEW GUEST WORKERS ON RANCH THOUGH....

March 28, 2006 4:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

THAT SO CALLED MAYOR vILLABOZO I SPELL THAT WITH A SMALL v HE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A TRADER TO THE GREAT CITY OF LA AND THE USA.WHAT HE DID TODAY WAS ONLY INSIGHTING LAWLESSNESS.THOSE KIDS BELONG IN SCHOOL 7 DAYS A WEEK BUT NOT HERE BUT WHERE THEY CAME FROM.THEY WOULDN'T BE MARCHING THERE!!AND WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T OWE THEM ANYTHING AND WE DON'T OWE THE WORLD A JOB.MAYBE MR.BUSH COULD USE A FEW GUEST WORKERS ON HIS RANCH THOUGH....

March 28, 2006 4:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I WAS THINKING ABOUT ALL OUR ELECTED OFFICALS FROM LOCAL ALL THE WAY TO THE FED LEVEL. THEY TAKE AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE LAWS OF THIS NATION-USA WHICH THEY HAVE NOT BEEN DOING FOR SOME TIME.SOME OF THEM SHOULD BE DOING SOME TIME BEHIND BARS!I WONDER HOW TONS OF DRUGS COME IN HERE OH BUT WE CAN LAND A MAN ON THE MOON BUT WE CAN'T STOP THAT?I THINK THESE ELECTED OFFICALS KNOW THEY ARE CRIMINALS IN A SUIT AND TIE!

March 28, 2006 5:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

those students ruined the message that was sent on Saturday. They just showed people Nation wide because the tv coverage was on all the cable stations, CNN, MSNBC etc. They didn't even listen to Antonio when he told them to go back to school. They acted like a bunch of low lifes from the barrio. They sounded uneducated, immature, juvenile when responding to the reporters. Utterly insulting for all Latinos.

March 28, 2006 6:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

>>The marches have created short term sympathy for the illegal immigrants (excuse me – I mean undocumented), but the net result will be to reinforce in the minds of a vast majority of the American population of the need to do something about out-of-control borders and the issue of sovereignty.

It's too bad that Mexicans, Salvadoreans, and others when confronted with corruption at home, chose to run for the borders instead of taking on their governments.

At least the Colonists (later to be Americans) in the 1700's chose to stay home and fight for their freedoms.

March 28, 2006 11:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:04

This WHITEY would be more than happy to pay $100 for a head of lettuce if it meant getting rid of you! It would be a hell of a lot cheaper than having to support you low life criminal illegals and gangbangers.

Just get out of OUR COUNTRY ! We saw what a gang of ungrateful, violent, racists you were...all week we watched you and you illegal anchor babies.

Join Al Quade. I hear they are hiring!

March 29, 2006 2:11 PM  

Blogger Archie Bunker said:

2:11

They can't they need to get circumcised first!. Al-Queda=Islam=Circumcision.

March 30, 2006 8:46 AM  

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