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Tuesday, November 22, 2005

Union Wage Updates - Teachers and The Engineers and Architects Assn.

LOS ANGELES (CNS) - The Los Angeles school district reached a tentative agreement with the teachers union on a wage increase for teachers, the school district announced today.

Details of the pact are to be released today at a 1:30 p.m. news conference at the Los Angeles Unified School District headquarters.

While they can't seem to get their website working, Updated Website -- they do have time for this little action...

L.A., Union at Odds Over Wage Pact
Engineers and Architects Assn. threatens to protest at LAX on Sunday. It seeks a contract similar to one reached with DWP.
By Patrick McGreevy
Times Staff Writer
November 22, 2005

A union representing 8,000 Los Angeles city employees threatened Monday to launch a disruptive Thanksgiving weekend protest at Los Angeles International Airport unless it wins the same lucrative contract that the city awarded to Department of Water and Power workers.

The threat is a direct challenge to Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, a former union organizer, who chose not to intervene to block the DWP contract, which was negotiated under the previous administration. At the time, however, he warned that the city could not afford to reward other unions with similar contracts.

The Engineers and Architects Assn. delivered the warning of demonstrations and strikes in a letter Monday morning to Villaraigosa, giving the city just 72 hours to respond.

42 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Union to AV "Come play with us for the cameras!" You stratch our backs and we'll make you look like a "hero" again for helping avert a strike (at a cost of gazzzillions of dollars).

This is why Union LOVE AV; a lamb in sheep's clothing.

No bark OR bite!

(That's the "hater" in me talking; I just HATE wimps in government, of any stripe).

November 22, 2005 10:31 AM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

they were there this morning. Watching on television. They aren't too happy

November 22, 2005 11:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who was there this morning and who didn't look happy? The unions, school board members or AV?

November 22, 2005 11:57 AM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

the unions

November 22, 2005 12:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

10:31 - just for the sake of another perspective, how would you handle these unions?

By the way, strike threats have been going on for decades; it's not new with this mayor.

November 22, 2005 12:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Thier website changed over a year and a half ago to www.eaaunion.net. Lots of up to the minute info... I'm staying tuned.

November 22, 2005 12:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Get rid of the unions! You see, it all starts with one moron, the next want to copycat, undeservedly.

November 22, 2005 1:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

HUMMMMMM. The Unions have everyone by the balls. What are we to do?

Fire the union workers, hire non union.

Easy.

Save Mucho Dinero

November 22, 2005 1:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How do you get rid of unions? Please explain.

November 22, 2005 1:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't blame the EAA. If AV wanted to make a stand, he should have made it with the DWP union.

November 22, 2005 1:53 PM  

Blogger Archie Bunker said:

1:53

I couldn't have said it better myself!.

When I pointed this out many times after the DWP incident, folks thought I was looney and an "AV hater".

If he had did this right from the start with the DWP he wouldn't be in this mess, couple this with Peter Zen at the Bonaventure recieving a large subsidy for Hotel rennovations after threatening LA Live(now LA Live is having issues) and his obvious support of the Measure Y school bond.

And these people have a good shot in seeing that AV will give you whatever you want.

Damn, I hate it when I'm right.

November 22, 2005 2:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

AV is making his own problems with the past decisions he has made. Time to fix things, eh?

November 22, 2005 3:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is going to become a routine at city council with all the unions threatening to strike if they don't get what they want. IF Antonio had any kind of leadership he should have taken a stand on DWP. I agree this looks like a setup to make AV come out to be the hero again. Please!!!! I can't see the city giving them the 17% DWP got so they'll give them a bite and AV will take credit for averting them striking. LA Reporters please do your job and report the facts.

November 22, 2005 3:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What I found puzzling is why were the EAA union members wearing the exact same "threatening" t-shirts that DWP union members wore when they went to council.

They were black and on the back said "Will Strike If Provoked"

November 22, 2005 3:45 PM  

Blogger Archie Bunker said:

Simple,

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

If it works for DWP-IBEW it'll work for them.

November 22, 2005 4:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To 3:45 pm commentor, we wore the t-shirts because we mean business just like DWP did.

November 22, 2005 5:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey 12"17pm-AV may have experience with strikes, but always on the union side. Now he has the sole responsibility as the Mayor, on the other side.

November 22, 2005 5:05 PM  

Anonymous Tom Bradley said:

Get out the KY jelly Los Angeles.

The Unions wants to perform a financial gangbang rape of tax-payer funds.

November 22, 2005 6:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

We are F&*^#D!

November 22, 2005 6:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

We all knew the pay raise for DWP would provoke the rest of the unions demanding the same pay hike percentage. This will be the test for Antonio to see where his loyalty lies.

We better watch this closely because if garbage collectors make the same or more than our Police and Fire fighters we're in big trouble...

Plus, the city better make sure there are no illegal or green card workers for the city. This is wrong when we have so many out of work citizens. And no is no way anyone can say that Americans won't do the work...The unions better purge their union file of these workers who the public pays.

November 22, 2005 7:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NO ONE has yet to answer HOW they would handle this issue. EVERYONE seems to be bitching like whiney-ass crybabies but refuse to say just what they'd do. Be a man and explain what YOU would do.

November 22, 2005 7:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The issue here is equalaty.

The City Council needs to re-open the IBEW contract or bring the other city workers on par over a period of time.

They made this mess and everyone warned them. Hate to say it but the unions are right on this one.

November 22, 2005 8:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Did some quick research and only one person had the balls to stand up to Antonio back then... somewhat...

Ironicly Mr Smith and his archenemy were on the same page on this one.

LA Times, 10/7/2005:

...And when the issue of giving DWP workers raises of up to 34% over five years came up recently, Villaraigosa said he would not have negotiated the same deal but said he would go along with whatever the council decided. DWP workers spent $306,000 on campaign materials supporting him during the campaign. With the mayor unwilling to provide the council guidance or political cover to vote against the union, the council passed it, 10-3, after which the mayor said the panel had made the right decision.

Jim Alger, president of the Northridge West Neighborhood Council and a longtime critic of the DWP, said Villaraigosa's comments amounted to "taking both sides of the fence."

Villaraigosa's handling of the issue raises the question of whether he will provide leadership on other unpopular proposals — such as increasing fees to pay for some of his promises...

Seems like anyone could have seen this coming. How can the City now say no to the unions after caving before? EAA, SEIU... these people have a legitimate gripe. While the City Council was rubber-stamping the pay hike, and the Mayor was shrugging like he could do nothing, these City workers were getting screwed. They should strike, teach this city a lesson.

November 22, 2005 9:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

AV is the new SANTY KLAUS for L.A. rake-leaners. Everyone get out your WISH lists and line up, Hell EVERYONE deserves to make TONS more than they do now.

L.A. taxpayers ARE RICH.

November 23, 2005 2:02 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

TAXPAYER strike, anyone?

Burn you property tax bills in front of city hall to let the giveaway mayor know the bucks stop!

Perio.

November 23, 2005 2:04 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The difference between EAA and SEIU contracts are that SEIU AGREED TO THE CAO'S OFFER and have a contract, EAA did not fall for the "poor mouth" bull from Fujioka!

November 23, 2005 6:55 AM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

The unions own our mayor. They've invested millions of dollars of their dues in his political career over the years. They are now simply coming to collect the dividends on their investment. If we expect something different, we have to elect someone who doesn't take money from special interests. Also, happy Thanksgiving to all of you from here in Florida.

November 23, 2005 6:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, Julie fell for the okey doke...again. Makes one wonder what deal she made with the ex-mayor, doesn't it? Funny, AFSCME broke the old tradition of waiting until all of the contracts were settled and this time settle early. Same deal? Same okey-doke? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

November 23, 2005 7:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Antonio in today's paper is blaming Hahn for the DWP pay raise. IF he had any balls he would have taken a stand and said NO. But we all know he isn't a leader but merely a photo op mayor. What has he done??? Nothing and going on 6 months. He's been in front of cameras more than anyone I know. Sadly, he really does have a mental issue and needs deep therapy. He's so insecure he needs people to like him. That's why the unions will get want they want.

November 23, 2005 7:50 AM  

Blogger Archie Bunker said:

"NO ONE has yet to answer HOW they would handle this issue. EVERYONE seems to be bitching like whiney-ass crybabies but refuse to say just what they'd do. Be a man and explain what YOU would do."

You putz, We have all said what we would have done. It began first with the DWP contract, renogate that contract immediately so that you won't have this chain reaction of all of the other employee unions demanding large raises. Make out a deal or tradeoff that will allow certain pay-raises after neccessary infrastructure improvements took place such as burying of power lines in Economically sensitive areas, accelerating Green Power programs getting those things in writing and making them accountable. Or make a tradeoff for a smaller raise but no raise in their pensions this way there's a
tradeoff.

AV said and did ABSOLUTELY nothing, and that's not what leaders do.

And the light is being shown that He can't blame Hahn for this recent demand, it is clearly on him!

November 23, 2005 9:00 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter, Walter, Walter...

You know as well as anyone that special interest money gets you the ability to get your message out. Even when you did your so-called run for Mayor you "loaned" yourself 100,000.00... of course you never SPENT it but it made a good soundbite to say you believed in your candidacy enough to put in 100k of your own cash even if it was bogus. It simply made YOU the special interest group instead of someone else.

The answer is clean money. Although that wouldn't have helped you either because in order to qualify for it you have to have actual support. Your entire platform was "I am a Republican and I love animals". You offered, and still offer, not one actual solution. Archie Bunker had a solution, even Jim Alger had the guts to say this was wrong way back when, risky for a Democrat. I believe Mayor Sam also saw this coming. They all predicted the tidal wave that would come and now would be truly hard pressed to oppose the equal treatment of another segment of city employees.

Walter, please be kind enough to crawl back under the rock from whence you came. Oh, and happy thanksgiving.

November 23, 2005 12:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This will be the first time EAA has performed a job action (strike) on its' own. Previously it joined with IBEW local 18 or SEIU local 347. Why? Because EAA can't shut the city down. At least IBEW won't be there to restore power when it fails. (It took 11 days last time then Riodan capitulated.) 347 backed off when Pheonix privated their trash pick-up (they've been scared ever since)

According to their website EAA plans to have 150 demonstrators at LAX on Sunday. It sounds like the mouse that roared to me.

November 23, 2005 1:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If you remember, the mouse that roared WON!

November 23, 2005 9:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I used to be a part of EAA when I worked for the Bureau of Engineering and realized that it was a travesty compared to my engineer friends over at DWP. So I did what was best, I transferred to DWP and right in time for that 17% minimum pay raise. The EAA union is ridiculously weak and will never do anything. I am glad that IBEW now represents me.

November 28, 2005 6:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Do you know that EAA's member handles the 911 systems, 311 systems & the EOC? So EAA got no impact when they strike? Think again!

November 28, 2005 4:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If EAA's members have such a huge impact on the city's system (911 and 311) then why has there never been parity for pay between DWP and EAA for the last how many years? DWP was under the EAA back then as well. Why was it that in the late 90s the DWP engineers voted to DROP from the EAA and join IBEW local 18? Did you know that DWP went thru a HUGE downsizing (Layoffs and severance pay offs) back then and the EAA did nothing to back the DWP engineers up? If the EAA has such a strong standing then explain to me why they haven't stood up all those years?

November 29, 2005 7:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To the anonymous who said that EAA has a huge impact. OOOOOH a whole 90 people showed up to the protest and didn't even make a dent. Their own union members didn't even walk off from their airport jobs to protest. Weak. I guess the mayor's warning truly scared them. Where is your EAA union now? huh...just as I thought.

November 30, 2005 7:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Impact... yes, it'll be coming out of your pocket book into the BIG EAA member paycheck.
Hmmm... speaking of history... let's not forget who booted out Duncan and put in Aquino to make it a 'better' Union. Where are all those governors now? Got 'lucky' and gone off to DWP?

December 01, 2005 11:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Big EAA member paycheck?" Are you referring to the retrocheck that EAA members shall get? Good because not only will I receive a retro, I also get the IBEW18 17% min pay raise. I don't know why some people defend the EAA. They have not done anything right for the fight for parity. Why do you think so many employees want to leave the City Departments to go to DWP? Ask all the engineers. I know of 3 from my former division that took demotions from an Associate III to go to DWP as an Associate II. Why? Better pay and benefits for their families. All the EAA does is rely on DWP to get their raise so that they have a reason to b*tch and moan to get their measly 2.5% per year or whatever it is. Wake up and smell the coffee fellow union members. The EAA and SEIU stink. Find better representatives!!

December 01, 2005 11:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How come our EAA could not pull off a labor strike statement like the IBEW? Look at their strength! I am almost embarassed to be a part of the EAA

http://www.ibewlocal18.com/pages/laborday05/index.html

Our 90 members compared to their 100s that were protesting. It is truly pathetic.

December 02, 2005 12:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Strong showing in union demonstration? I thought DWP got the raise because one guy cut the power for half the city. Or may be two?

December 02, 2005 7:55 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Power failure was merely a rumor that was started by a bitter EAA member. It was a long going gag that was circulating at my office.

December 03, 2005 2:21 AM  

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