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Monday, February 28, 2005

Taking the Fight to the Next Level


From Hertzberg's camp:
February 28, 2005

Hertzberg to Call for Resignation of Hahn Administration Officials TODAY

What: Mayoral candidate Bob Hertzberg will hold a news conference today to
call for the resignation of multiple Hahn administration officials. Hertzberg will provide the media with detailed information and rational for the call
for resignation at the news conference.

Who: Mayoral candidate Bob Hertzberg

When: TODAY Monday, February 28 1:00 p.m.

Where: Hertzberg for Mayor, Eastside Field Office 4448 Eagle Rock Boulevard, Suite G, Eagle Rock
This should be fun. Nice punch right before the debate. Any guesses on who?


Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

Word from various campaign offices is that tonight's debate probably won't be broadcast live, after all -- but taped and shown tomorrow (Tuesday) night. The parent company of the local CBS affiliate was unwilling to bump local showing of one of its entertainment shows doing a recap of the Academy Awards. Is this a movie industry town, or what?

Good news is, apparently no one from the LA32 Neighborhood Council is to blame for this.

February 28, 2005 9:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I heard that, too -- from Hertzberg's people. This is a pretty good indication of how little respect there is within local media for this race. You would think we had 5-6 Rodney Dangerfield's running around stumping for Mayor.

February 28, 2005 9:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hertzberg is sounding a bit desperate, now that Villaraigosa is cruising and feels assured of a runoff spot. Hertzberg needs to appear to be the angel of reform hovering over the current admin. to make a last-ditch push to move ahead of Hahn for the other spot in the two-way. This could just as easily backfire - if there's nothing but smoke. I'm not sure his advisors are doing him a huge service here, but maybe he has nothing to lose. He can't win in a paid media shoot-out.

February 28, 2005 9:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam please complain to LA Observed. It is calling your site an "anti Villaraigosa gossip blog". This is not anti Villaraigosa "gossip" - this is a genuine outpouring of anger against a councilmember who has used his constituents for his own political career and personal agenda!

February 28, 2005 9:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bob lost when Antonio got in the race. You couldn't have Hahn & Hertzberg in a runoff with Antonio in the race. And for all Hahn's problems he is the incumbent, has lots of money and there are no idictments in sight. So, it's clearly a "Hail Mary".

February 28, 2005 9:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tell that to Bob, he's picked up quite a bit of the anti-Villaraigosa crowd on the Eastside in recent weeks, since they don't want to see a 2001 rematch of ADV vs. a weakened Hahn, and (they feel) Hertzberg's the next best opportunity to keep Antonio out.

February 28, 2005 9:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"This is not anti Villaraigosa gossip"

Whatever, folks. Keep telling yourselves whatever you need to believe that.

Just take a step back and read through these comments. The anti-Villaraigosa sentiment is way, WAY over-represented on this blog. And most of it is gossip and innuendo -- very little facts.

This blog is becoming a caricature of itself.

February 28, 2005 9:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh yeah, this blog definitely become the Jerry Springer Show of blogs here in L.A.

February 28, 2005 10:08 AM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

I don't recall anyone calling this an "Anti-Hahn gossip blog" when bashing the current administration was the topic of every other thread -- just about the time I started posting here. People were regularly discussing his personal life, that of his staffers, and what his bathroom behavior was as an infant (this was just last month, pilgrims - look it up). Posters were making accusations every other hour of "pay-for-play" and comparing the city's department heads and commissioners to Mafia henchmen. Daily taunts claimed Hahn was "going to jail" and his campaign people were bailing in defeat.

There were five majors in the race at that time, too. But only one was the primary punching bag. If you want to be the "leader" in the race, as Attention-Deficit Villaraigosa's people now consistently claim he is, then prepare to handle the criticism that comes with it without whining. If you want ADV® to run off a "stellar" record as an 18-month-wonder city councilmember, prepare to have his bogus achievements list debunked by people in the area that know what has and (mostly) hasn't been accomplished. "Very little facts" is what CD14 people have been saying about the ADV® campaign ads, especially when they reference good deeds in and for his district. No one with ADV® has been willing to produce any of these "facts" however, only more unsupported claims of exceptional city service and constituent support for his decision to run.

February 28, 2005 10:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The previous poster is missing something. if Villaraigosa wins the election I cannot believe you will say, "Villaraigosa was way over represented." No, you will say he had overwhelming support. I say to you that the reason this site has turned "anti Villaraigosa" is because lots and lots of people from the eastside are genuinely upset with him.

February 28, 2005 10:12 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What a two face hypocrite Bob is turning out to be. He has the nerve to send letters to Hahn and the media saying he doesn't want this campaign to be NEGATIVE. Bob is desperate and did horribly yesterday on Channel 4. I'm sure his people would love to think that he will get a lot of votes on the Eastside but that's not true. I know of a slight handful of people. Bob is starting the negative campaigning and he just lost my vote

February 28, 2005 10:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Unfortunately for any Villaraigosa "lovers" that might want to post here in opposition (none from his district as far as I can tell), their campaign rarely gives them anything factual and positive (post 2001) about their candidate to counteract criticism. Their entire focus has been on destroying Hahn's chances. If they have accomplished that, or nearly so, it doesn't appear they made any plans to bolster their own candidate's chances of succeeding him -- they assumed he would be crowned king as soon as the old king was "dead" but many people seem to want to erase 2001 entirely and start fresh without either of that race's candidates as their choice.

February 28, 2005 10:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good PR move, however, to do this from his Eastside campaign office, rather than in the Valley or somewhere else.

February 28, 2005 10:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


February 28, 2005 10:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And if Hahn did take Hertzberg's "advice" and ask some of his people to resign, the media would say Hahn was desperate and pandering for last-minute votes.

February 28, 2005 10:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You morons don't even know what he is going to say. Maybe the people he is calling out have broken the law. Maybe he has a smoking gun. What do you MORONS have. NOTHING. I hope he puts egg on your faces and you feel stupid when it turns out these people are doing something wrong and should be fired.

February 28, 2005 10:57 AM  

Anonymous Moron Hater said:

Nice how you call him a moron about going negative and then go negative yourself. You must be a Hahn satffer

February 28, 2005 10:59 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

IF the people Hertzberg intends to call out have broken the law and IF he has proof, then law enforcement should be the one with egg on its face.

February 28, 2005 11:06 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And you for spewing the crap you brought up earlier

February 28, 2005 11:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Name those Hahn Administration people...I guess ADD is a problem with most of you bloggers. They have drugs for that you know

February 28, 2005 11:10 AM  

Anonymous BEEF said:

I would like to settle this anti-Villar / anti-Hahn sentiment by conducting a poll of my own: If it were Hahn and Villaraigosa in the run off, WHO WOULD YOU SUPPORT??? Thank you for all of your votes.

February 28, 2005 11:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Everyone knows Bob is a total loser. He's been on another planet with his school break up plan. I agree with previous poster about him not wanting Hahn to be negative then coming out negative himself. Who made Bobble Head Bob judge and jury? He took money rom special interests in Sacramento and lets not forget he also took money from BFI. He wanted to split LA. He is a very strange weird man.

February 28, 2005 11:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bob has some clever and bold people in that campaign to come up with this type of campaign ploy. We're down to the last wire...bob needs some luck if he is going to get into the runoff.

February 28, 2005 11:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Go Bob -- get the bastards.

blog away

February 28, 2005 11:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Goodbye Dominic.

February 28, 2005 11:27 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hahn's staffers must be feeling the heat. Why else would they start chattering like this.

February 28, 2005 11:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FINALLY, a fact-based post from MEAT!

February 28, 2005 11:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If this is the best BOb can do to try and get attention it's pathetic. He's looking like an idiot especially after making such a big stink last week about telling Hahn not to make this campaign negative. Bob can't be as stupid as he looks. I love the way Laura Erickson on Channel 4 nailed him yesterday about TAKING MONEY FROM VEGAS. Bob said he can't remember. Please be a man and own up to it Bob and the money from BFI. I'm waiting for his Karma to come around.

February 28, 2005 11:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT is subdued. Maybe it's dawning on Villaraigosa's camp that they will win the primary and yet again lose the runoff. Who will Huggy endorse?

February 28, 2005 11:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"MEAT is subdued. Maybe it's dawning on Villaraigosa's camp that they will win the primary and yet again lose the runoff. Who will Huggy endorse?"

Oh yes, you must be correct. You are so WICKED SMAHT! Antonio's camp must be shaking in their boots right now... whatever.

February 28, 2005 12:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Parks will endorse ADV, but that just means that most of the anti-Hahn people he courted will vote anti-Hahn (or stay home). Big Whoop! Alarcon's likely to keep his mouth shut. He can hurt himself with core constituents going either way at this point

February 28, 2005 12:10 PM  

Blogger Anon-in-the-know said:

I'm not Anti-Hertzberg, but his response to that one question referenced above -- taking money from the casinos -- was a major screw-up. I'm not sure if his media people are new to the game, or if they just can't control his energy once he's out there - but if Ericksen asked him that once before and he said "I can't remember" then, he absolutely HAD to have an answer this time. Either "I didn't" or "here's why I did," with a good reason.

BH PRPs, get with the program... reporters always go back to their own notes or the tape to see if you left anything dangling. If he never got back to her with an answer before, you knew it was going to be asked this time. All the work preparing him with cool message points went down the drain. He ended up looking like he was either hiding something, or too addled (or handled) to be mayoral under fire.

February 28, 2005 12:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Speaking of "next level" - L.A. Times has ads in the paper editions today saying the next blast from their polling comes out in tomorrow's edition.

February 28, 2005 12:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Speaking of "next level" - L.A. Times has ads in the paper editions today saying the next blast from their polling comes out in tomorrow's edition.

February 28, 2005 12:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I give Laurel Erickson so much credit for being tough and throwing out hard questions yesterday on Channel 4. Not only did she make Alarcon come off as a bambling idiot (he did horrible) but nailed Antonio on taking money from casinos and his reply, Well it was ony $2,000 out of $2 million) as if that still makes it right. She caught Bobble Head Bob totally off guard with her question about him taking money. Previous poster you're right on the money. By not answering Bob looked as if he was hiding something.

February 28, 2005 2:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Very disappointed in Huggy Bear Bob. Why would he stoop so low after saying he didnt want this campaign to get negative? Agree with posters that Channel 4 threw hard ball questions and Bob came off weak and as if he was lying. Blood left his face as the camera showed him stumbling for an answer

February 28, 2005 2:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So what happened at the press conference?

February 28, 2005 3:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What happened? Bob screwed up. Bad advice from John Shallman. Bob asked for the resignations of Commissioners Julie Butcher, Miguel Contreras, Tyrone Freeman, SErgio Rascon and Sid Stolper.

February 28, 2005 3:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who the hell gave him that advice? I could have told him that would be diastrous. Anyone out there have any more info? How embarrassing!

February 28, 2005 3:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Taking the fight to the next level." Self-immolation.

I can hear the giant turrets on aging but still powerful USS COPE as they retrain their huge guns on the 50 ft tall giant ape scaling the side of City Hall, wildly brandishing a 3 ring binder full of cool policy ideas.

February 28, 2005 4:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


I think Bob is right on for calling for those resignations.

Especially since the pipe trades are about to dump 250k in the mail bashing him. And Carrick has dumped the OR file to (linda) breakstone for her bash bob exclusive on wednesday.

Bob is gearing up for one of the toughest political fights of his life in the next 8 days.

This city is about to be reminded why Hahn has to go --- and unfortunately for this city he's bringing out the guns on Bob.

This only strengthens Antonio's hand, which is why Hahn was hellbent on passing the sales tax legislation so he can campaign on that and not have to defend his negative campaign on Bob and his gotti-like administration during the entire exhaustive general election.

Wearing lil jimmy down, inch by inch, day by day, he's going to wish he never heard of being mayor, when MEAT and company are through with him.

can i get an amen!

February 28, 2005 4:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT you are so full of yourself. All Hahn has to do is remind people why they didn't vote for Antonio in 2001. Cause he not only supported a drug dealer but took money from the family. He's taken money from his neighborhood councils, taken money from Fleishman Hillard and has major baggage that is about to come out. Think of all those women MEAT. I know you can't really be that dumb. I know you know and are praying they don't come out. Good luck

February 28, 2005 5:38 PM  

Blogger Mayor Sam said:

So the Hahn people are about to take a page from the playbook of the anti-Clinton people and drag a $20 through the 14th district looking for Antonio bimbo erruptions.

Its going to backfire, and we will make sure it happens. If Jim Hahn wants to get dirty, he will regret it. How? The people will find out about it and be disgusted.

February 28, 2005 6:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Umm all i can say is please, please go negative on Antonio.

Go negative so i can tear mr hahn a new one -- the voters of Los Angeles are going to know the REAL JIMMY.

The anti-semtic jimmy.
The Anti-woman jimmy
His prowness at home...the wife is playing on a different team now.
His record of actually letting criminals goes -- you bash Antonio for a letter, i have evidence of him letting killers right back on the streets to kill again.
Why do you think he only does press conferences with cops, so that when the "real" info comes out it won't be taken seriously because lil jimmy is sooo pro-cop.

This is the same guy that supported Chief Gates -- i think the endorsements Hahn got today need to be reminded of that, and they will be.

So while everyone claims to have the real evidence, i actually give you some snippets of whats coming up from the internal depths of Hell for little jimmy.

So bring it on, keep on bringing it on, give your worse, because it will only put a huge smile on my face.


blog away dum-dums

February 28, 2005 7:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


learn how to spell.

If that was meat I am superman.

Meat won't even get that bad

Hahn did well tonite , parks , did well , antonio did well too, hertzberg did well, and alrcon was way back in the 80's. They all hit on th eissues of homelessness. Boy they all started blaming sacramento after calling Hahn making excuses , they all know the truth , they will have to face termemd out assembly people when they run for reelection if they win. ANd then they will wind up looking like whining excuse makers , because it is true. Los Angeles is caught up in the steal , from local city coffers conundrum.

February 28, 2005 8:50 PM  

Blogger FromDaCheapSeats said:

To Meat:

You're proof of Hahn letting out misdemeanor offenders as killers is going to be laughable. Don't forget the City Attorney's office only handles misdemeanors, not felonies -- where killers generally get charged.

February 28, 2005 11:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is MEAT the moron of the year, or what? He can't believe his own BS - can he?

March 01, 2005 8:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT sounds like an Antonio groupie. Other mayoral candidate's guys say he's a loner and has nothing better to do then kiss Antonio's butt hoping to get a real job. Never heard anyone so passionate about another man. Hmmmmmmm Makes you wonder!!!!

March 01, 2005 9:44 AM  

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