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Friday, February 18, 2005

Hertzy Goes To the Eastside

HuggyOne of our correspondents tell us that Bob Hertzberg may be sensing blood in the water in the 14th District. This weekend, he will open his third campaign office in Eagle Rock.

Is Tony Villar in trouble? Could very well be and Hertzy is on his way. Stay tuned.

49 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don't drink the water and don't eat the tamales out there.

February 18, 2005 2:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bob. Welcome to the 14th. 'Give 'em hell, Huggy!'

February 18, 2005 2:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wanna bet those Villaraigosa lawn signs start appearing now -- even if they are on empty lots?

February 18, 2005 2:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The LA Weekly said that Hahn signs are piling up at the SEIU HQ - no one wants to set them up.

February 18, 2005 2:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I also saw this alert, on a local Yahoo group list. Unlike ADVs people, Hertzberg's even seem to know how to get the word out quickly on the Eastside, using those new-fangled blog-like devices. (The announcement also made it very PLAIN -- they're aiming at LA-TI-NOS). Are your ears burning Antonio?

February 18, 2005 2:34 PM  

Blogger J. Harriman said:

Odd that you all did not post a similar comment when Villaraigosa opened his office in Van Nuys.

Who wants to predict whether Bob will do better in CD 14 than Antonio does in AD40?

How about, does Antonio do better in CD14 than Bob does in AD40?

I think it's Antonio in both cases.

Even the Bob-blog today seems to be conceding that AV finishes first.

February 18, 2005 2:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

AVD, how's it feel to be the target, not the targeter for a change?

February 18, 2005 2:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

HARRIMAN

Everyone has pretty much conceded AV will get more votes in the primary on the Eastside than other candidates (but FAR less than 4 years ago). Stop acting like that's news to crow about, you racist scum. Then it ends. . . he's dead in the water close to 40 percent in any 2-way pairing citywide. He can NOT be elected mayor in a diverse city like L.A.

Let me explain it in terms you can understand: Antonio will do just as well, maybe better, among the little brown people as Hertzberg will do with the Jew-boys and girls. Is that plain enough Harriman-speak! Sheets-on!

February 18, 2005 2:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes, first in the primary and last to anybody in the runoff. What a prospect for the Golden Boy - to know you are going to lose no matter who your opponent is? How does Antonio get out of bed every day with that in his future?

February 18, 2005 2:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

another huge waist of money from a guy who's already wasted nearly a million on consultants.

February 18, 2005 2:42 PM  

Blogger J. Harriman said:

Nice to see that even you, in your anonymous, incoherent, character-assassinating way, are conceding that AV is stronger in his district than Bob is in his. Kind of undercuts what seems to be the sole motivating premise of this site.

February 18, 2005 2:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Watch out Harriman, there's an "ethnic minority" behind you. Lock your car door, move your purse under the seat!!!

February 18, 2005 3:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oogah, boogah, JH

February 18, 2005 3:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oogah, boogah, JH

February 18, 2005 3:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Please use some big long "whitey" words, so we can make fun of CD14 staff members again.

February 18, 2005 3:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don't be cruel, bloggers, some of this guy's "best friends" are probably people of color. Well, Tony V., anyway...

February 18, 2005 3:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Latino vote is going to be cut this time round. Alarcon has a nice strong group of supporters on the Eastside and El Sereno. Huggy Bear Bob also has a lot of support in El Sereno and the Eastside. ADV, well let's just say he's still looking to see where his votes are. We're spreading the word fast on what a loser councilman he's been in CD14. Thankfully its rainy so his moron field staffers can stop threatening all the people in Boyle Heights to go and sweep for him. I love how he exaggerates his clean up numbers to 6,000 pllllleeeaaaasssee. Never even combining all his stupid clean ups has he had that many people come out. His idiot staffer sent out an e-mail saying rain or shine and free lunch. Yeah right a "FREE LUNCH PAID FOR BY THE POOREST COMMUNITY AND ORGANIZATIONS ADV HAS CHARGED TO HAVE A BOOTH AT.

February 18, 2005 3:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Time to sweep that district clean of carpetbaggers.

February 18, 2005 3:14 PM  

Blogger J. Harriman said:

So, re: which ever one of you delightful people wrote this:

"Everyone has pretty much conceded AV will get more votes in the primary on the Eastside than other candidates (but FAR less than 4 years ago)."

So you're confident that AV will receive a smaller percentage of the votes in CD14 on March 8 than he did in the primary 4 years ago? Really? FAR less even? That's a bet I'd like a piece of.

He did quite well in 01, but he's going to do even better this time -- against an incumbent Mayor.

At least you were willing to make a prediction -- an insane one -- but a prediction.

February 18, 2005 3:32 PM  

Anonymous MEATBALLED said:

Isn't June Harriman sleeping with MEAT?

February 18, 2005 3:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

SO glad you're still here, Mistah H. My skin color is 2-3 shades darker than a brown paper lunch sack, and I just can't figure out on my own which candidate to vote for even though I have a university degree. I really do need your guidance. I hear you know which candidate each race of people choose. Then, I'll also need help if there's a runoff. Please consult your magic book of numbers and help me.

February 18, 2005 3:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You gonna have to come out from inside the sheet to collect any bets all-knowing one.

February 18, 2005 3:53 PM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

Don't you know what the clean ups were for?

They were to get people out get to know the councilman and see him actually getting his hands dirty.

has a huge psychological effect on those who see him do this.

February 18, 2005 3:56 PM  

Blogger SacramentoNighties said:

Unfortunately, Attention Deficit Villaraigosa's term in office in CD14 has been one long, tedious "psycho effect" on the people there. "I mean what I say" (PSYCH), "I'm not running for mayor for at least 4-8 years (PSYCH), I respect the identity of individual communities (PSYCH), my staff will be head and shoulders above the last batch (PSYCH). But maybe there ADVĀ® just meant they'd use dandruff shampoo. They are fairly well-groomed.

Odd as it may seem, in some communities the clean-ups are to, ummm, clean up the community and improve life and outlook for the citizens. There are community groups in CD14 that do this every month, and ADVĀ® and staff have NEVER taken part in those. Because those aren't "special" symbolic, once a year or just before mayoral election (publicity photographed) clean-ups. They're just, ummm, to "clean?"

February 18, 2005 4:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dgarzila, do you really think anybody is that stupid -- when someone running for another position pops in, says a few words, pushes a broom in front of a camera for a few steps, then jumps in his SUV and rushes off to a $1,000-a-plate rubber chicken fundraiser -- that they think that means he's working for and with them? Maybe a few, but not the type of activists that come to these do-gooder events. They know steak from sizzle better than some pols do, because they're always on the receiving end of the spin.

February 18, 2005 4:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

EAT the tamales, Hertzberg. Pollo especially. Best in the city - right off the taco truck. Beats that Valley chain-store crap by a mile.

February 18, 2005 4:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Drink the water, too - H. Half the city's bottled water comes from the Northeast. Not counting the "chic" foreign brands of course. You're safe.

February 18, 2005 4:32 PM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

same here anonymous , but I disagree that it is a few people. I bleive it is a lot of people who fall for it. Apparently you must not be hispanic. How many conicl people do you see pushing a broom. I have witnessed antonio stay at events even after the others have left

February 18, 2005 4:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The best tamales come from San Fernando which is, DUH, in the Valley chingon.

February 18, 2005 8:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Someone better make a map for Antonio where to find tamales in his own district. He doesn't know where its at. Bobby have a burrio at Manuel's. Their the best.

February 18, 2005 9:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FROM MEAT:

Antonio opens an office in Alarcon's district, Bob's old district, Park's district and obviously Hahn's district.

Antonio comes in first on march 8th -- done deal.

blog away dum-dums.

February 18, 2005 9:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Meat,

I make a bet Antonio comes in first in the primary and finishes second to Hahn or Hertzberg in the run-off. Everyone knows Antonio cannot reach 50% plus one in a general citywide election. Antonio has strong base but that is all. He will pick up a few points in the genral but will fall short to be the next Mayor. Either way you look at it he his secong again.

If you disagree, where does he get his added support from? Support he did not have last time and consider his decreasing numbers on the eastside and westside.

February 18, 2005 9:40 PM  

Blogger Halogirlfromcity said:

Anyone who is in the run off against Hahn will win. Why because the word is ABH.

February 18, 2005 9:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That guy up there meant San Fernando Road in the NE, I'm just sure of it.

February 18, 2005 9:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT seems to be into drive-by blogging these days. One-liners with no factual backup and then on to scam another thread.

February 18, 2005 10:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bob, Don't sleep on Al & Beas!

February 18, 2005 10:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hertzy has people who can run an eastside office? I thought all he knew was the valley? Can he even do that right?

February 18, 2005 10:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

H. is employing top Eastside people. Villaraigosa didn't want them, he likes to import his from Central CA.

February 19, 2005 9:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No chingon not San Fernando Road in El Lay but the best tamales are on Pico (not in El Lay) in the City of San Fernando in the 818 puto.

https://carrillostamales.com/tamales.htm

February 19, 2005 1:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

From my experience volunteering at the Villaraigosa office in the Valley Villaraigosa gets most of the Latino vote at least the people I've called. The LA Times poll one or two weeks ago showed that Hertzberg's based is 90% Anglo. With low name recognition I'm not sure he can substantially improve that number though opening an office is definetly warranted and the LA Times poll also showed that Antonio has had a lower percentage of the Latino vote then last time. Also Villaraigosa splits the Jewish vote with Hertzberg and I think if Hertzberg doesn't make the primary Antonio gets the Jewish vote.

Just my opinion,
Charlie Carnow
P.S To the forum: Why doesn't this site concentrate more on the positions espoused by the candidates? All I've heard on this site is allegations without much sources and little discussion of the ideas in the race other than accusations that this candidate stole an idea from that candidate. I'm only 16 and can't vote yet but decided on volunteering for Antonio's campaign mostly because of the strong position that was there all the way from the beginning of the extension of the Red Line down Wilshire as well as Antonio's record of getting federal money for transit projects like the Eastside rail project and with Councilman Ludlow his efforts in resolving the transit strike. I can't vote and I don't know if I am missing something about politics but are positions and ideas just not important? Is it not fair that people could disagree on what ideas should be prioritized?

February 19, 2005 8:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Charlie. your thoughtful posting based on personal experience in one campaign office is appreciated. Because misinformation is often posted here by one campaign or another and never backed up, please state where this information you offer comes from:

"Also Villaraigosa splits the Jewish vote with Hertzberg and I think if Hertzberg doesn't make the primary Antonio gets the Jewish vote."

February 19, 2005 10:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Also Villaraigosa splits the Jewish vote with Hertzberg and I think if Hertzberg doesn't make the primary Antonio gets the Jewish vote."
Oh sorry for not including the reference. I got the info about Antonio splitting the Jewish vote with Hertzberg from the LA Times article "Hahn's Woes Leave Race for Grabs" in the 2/6/2005 paper. I may be reading too much into this but one line said "But so far he[Hertzberg] has failed to consolidate another voting bloc he has aggressively courted, Jewish voters, whom he splits with Villaraigosa." I didn't get the analysis that Antonio gets the majority of the Jewish vote if Hertzberg doesn't make the primary from anywhere, it's just my own humble opinon based on the progressive-leanings of Jewish-Americans and distaste with Hahn among all groups. I could be wrong, since Villaraigosa slightly trails Hahn in the Valley according to the LA Times Poll (with Hertzberg on top) it's conceivable if Hertzberg is not in primary Hahn could get the share of the Jewish vote Hertzberg has. I sincerely doubt it thought and I think Antonio will get Valley support if Hertzberg doesn't end up in the primary.

Hope I've cleared up any confusion,
Charlie Carnow

P.S the LA Times article is here http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-adme-poll6feb06,0,6238586.story

February 20, 2005 12:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

PLEAAZ. This is not an L.A. 16-year-old posting this stuff. Go back to bed, paid AV hack. No one's reading this part of the blog anymore but the trolls like me. You'd be worth more to the boss stuffing envelopes.

February 20, 2005 12:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Charlie is a young man, I believe...one with stars in his eyes, but give him and year or two and he will be distancing himself from Antonio like he would from the plague. And Charlie? Keep an eye out for your mom with Antonio around.

February 20, 2005 4:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hewwo, My name is Timmy Simpson and I am a 7-year-old second gwader, and I indubitably advocate constituent suppowt for Mistew Viyawaigosa. I am now pwogramming website content for him in his South Los Angeles campaign offices after my L.A.'s Best program dismisses on school days. I cannot vote for him yet in his mayoralty venture, but when I weach the age of majority in just eweven years, I am prepared to cast my vote for him in in whatever officiaw capacity he thence aspires too - pwobably governor, after he wuns for state senator, congwess (in 3 different districts) and U.S. senator (from Cawifornia and Owegon).

February 21, 2005 12:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Read in LA Times that all the candidates were reaching to other communities than there own. Parks, Antonio and Hahn made stops in South LA. Hertzberg was the only one to make a stop on the Eastside. LA Times also mentioned it was Antonio's home district. Looks like the opening of the office is a prelude to the run-off and it looks like Hertzberg is getting his foot in the door. AV, you better come back and defend your home turf before Hertzberg gets too cozy and calls the Eastside his too!!!!

February 21, 2005 10:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hahn according to LAT on Sunday was in Boyle Heights with Mothers of ELA. I'm sure Antonio is livid. Not a good sign when one of the strongest organizations is having breakfast with Mayor. Maybe that incident in city council where Attention Deficit Villaraigosa slammed his own community is coming back to haunt him. can we all say L...O...S...E...R...

February 22, 2005 10:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To Anonymous, ie Tommy Simpson,
You know how pathetic and immature you sound mocking this kid Charlie? The funny part is, this 16 year old IS in fact a volunteer with Antonio. But i bet you feel like a real BIG man now dont ya? Moron

February 22, 2005 4:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Give me a f----g break. That kid Charlie is another ADV plant. Where would he have known to come to Mayor Sam only from someone like that idiot Meat.

February 22, 2005 5:48 PM  

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