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Friday, January 28, 2005

State of the Valley -- The Reaction

San Fernando Valley

Now that the Mayor finally delivered the State of the Valley address to VICA, let's digest the reaction:

Comments on Mayor Sam - To all the above posters, the Mayor did show up to VICA. His speech was uninspiring and very old. The response was tepid, the number that showed up in the audience to hear him was DISMAL. The worst turn out for a Mayor in VICA history !!! Maybe 75-100 people, including Richard Alarcon and all those that Hahn brought with him. He talked about past successes(trivial at best)and provided no vision of the future. It was uninspiring. Going through the motions.

Boi From Troy posts - All of which reminds me of an old song from the soundtrack to "My Best Friend's Wedding"..."Wishing, and hoping and thinking and praying; crying and dreaming each night of his charms; that won't get you into his arms!" I think the Valley feels that way about City Hall...The time for "trying" and "hoping" has passed; it's time for action.

The Daily News reports - VICA President Martin Cooper said he was pleased to see the mayor appear before his group -- even on a delayed basis and despite differences on issues....Cooper said he understood Hahn's desire to stress what he had accomplished, but would have preferred to hear more on what the mayor would like to see done for the Valley in the coming years.

The Daily News Opinion Section - Realizing that support in the San Fernando Valley is what got him elected mayor of Los Angeles -- and the loss of it could cost him re-election -- James Hahn is trying to mend fences he broke unnecessarily. Too bad he's trying to do it by taking credit for other people's accomplishments.

The LA Times: Hahn was supposed to deliver the "State of the Valley" speech last Dec. 9 at the Sheraton Universal during the Valley association's annual membership meeting but canceled, citing illness. Cooper said that the business tax reform was a "positive step" but that overall, the state of the Valley was mixed. "It's slowly and marginally better," Cooper said. "We still need more public safety personnel and attention to infrastructure."

Other mayoral candidates offered dissenting views in the times articles:

"The promises made during the anti-secession campaign have gone largely unfulfilled," said Alarcon, who attended the speech. "The Valley still has far too few police officers on the streets. The high school dropout rate is abysmal. Valley communities are having trouble getting city services."

"If the mayor was giving an accurate speech it would be called 'State of the Valley: Neglected,' " Ace Smith (Villaraigosa) said.

Hertzberg accused Hahn of paying "lip service" to the Valley without improving services. "The state of the Valley is that the Valley needs a new mayor," he said. They also posted on their blog today...Jim Hahn gave a State of the Valley speech this week -- and the results are crystal clear. We need new leadership, not failed leadership.


Anonymous Anonymous said:

Noticed Bob Hertzberg is now censoring public comments in his blog.


January 28, 2005 12:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Actually, the comments have always been filtered for SPAM. This policy is nothing new. It is just posted more boldly now due to a comment from someone on our site who asked the question as to the delay in posting of comments.

Anyone who has maintained a blog will tell you about the hundreds of comment spams that attack blog postings.

Our filter system is simple. You post. The system sends an e-mail to a number of staffers. We look at the comment to make sure it isn't an ad for offshore gambling or various medical drugs and enhancements, click on a link to approve, and the comment is posted.

The delay sometimes occurs in the event you post at 2:00 in the morning and I don't read your e-mail until 5:00 AM when I get up to do the Daily Digest postings.

This is hardly anything out of the ordinary, and if you think we are filtering the actual comments, you should actually go read the blog and notice that some of the comments are adamantly against the very positions Bob Hertzberg has taken. We have NEVER taken down a comment posted on the site that has not been spam.

Brian Hay

January 28, 2005 12:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Somehow Mayor Sam's blog manages to keep out spam without censoring public comments...

January 28, 2005 1:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mayor Sam uses the blogger platform as host for their site, which provides the spam filtering process for them. Note the lag time that often occurs on their site as well. This is due to the filtering process.

While ideal for their purposes, it doesn't flow well when integrated into a website providing the content on ChangeLA.com. I can point you to hundreds of articles and posts from many different blogs regarding different software platforms and problems with them being spammed, and the incredible lengths they too need to go through to protect their sites.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, Mayor Sam has had to delete many comments recently due to vulgar language and inappropriate comments here in these very posts as well. Somehow singling Bob Hertzberg out seems a little inappropriate.

I personally am proud of the fact that we let the public comment openly on our site, something only one other candidate has provided, and well after the time our site was up and running. I challenge the others to do the same.

Brian Hay

January 28, 2005 1:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


San Fernando Valley analysis:

Primary: Alarcon starts off with 35% of the valley latino vote, Antonio starts at 30%. Hahn and the rest split the rest -- but once Antonio hits the air he will begin to eat into Alarcon's base, unless Alarcon can raise the money needed to be on TV. I really think we see a similar (with slight changes) electorate map that got Antonio and Hahn in the first time around. i am really interested in how Bob is going to use his TV time - that will dictate (i think) what the other two candidates do.

After the primary -- if Hahn makes it this far -- he is in it with either Bob or Antonio -- i'd be really interested to see how the mayor's fundraising goes. With all of this corruption stuff in the press -- and the fact that he has raised around 65% of his money before the first candidate ever declared (Alarcon) it will be really interesting to see how this affects the $$$ in the general.

I could really see Hahn coming in 2nd place again and then scare the rest of the outstanding voters into his column, which in my opinion is a smart tactic.

But who does he scare - African Americans? who really despise him because of Parks and other lets downs (Commission apts and the such). Valleyites? i think of the plus 50% that voted for secession i have to believe a majority of those folks voted for Hahn over Antonio 4 years ago. But do these ardent secessionists go Hahn again? Over an Antonio or Bob -- the answer seems to be a resounding NO. Does Hahn get them sure, does he get as many as before NO.

Everyone else can shout and scream their little issues about Antonio, but it doesn't mean much if the 10 million people in this region don't hear about it or know about it. Unless your claims make it to the LA Times, Daily news, LA Weekly, any nightly newscast -- how does posting on this site (a wonderful site by the way) break through this really tough media marktet. The answer is it doesn't -- i say this because from now i am going to scale back my postings from now on, to only offer commentary as i see fit and not parry everything you dum-dums hit Antonio with. Some of it has been legitamit, but he's human, no candidate is perfect, but until a poster says something that breaks through the media medness, only then will i slam you righ back into the dum-du house you come from.

blog away - you always do.

January 28, 2005 2:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEAT if you don't think the media is reading these posts you're an idiot! I know they are. Its been in the media that Antonio didn't get any of the big endorsements last time round. You can bet that is going to hurt him big time. All anyone in CD14 has to do is have a protest against Antonio. Residents who live in CD14 fed up with his lip service, lies etc. Now I see he's posting "Help me Clean Up City Hall." I promise...He already promised two years ago and didn't keep it. Now he's promising again. Haven't you heard the story of the boy who cried wolf? We'll soon see MEAT.

January 28, 2005 2:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Above poster is obviously ant-Tony V. It's getting boring. Come up with something real, like how the Mayor is using his staff on city time to blog.

Blog, blog, blog...

January 28, 2005 3:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Above poster is obviously ant-Tony V. It's getting boring. Come up with something real, like how the Mayor is using his staff on city time to blog.

Blog, blog, blog...

January 28, 2005 3:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I liked this blog better when it gave us the inside scoop. What is the latest inside scoop in City Hall?

January 28, 2005 3:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

hmmm state of the valley.

Parks has 100 people show up at his office in his district for a rally.

Antonio has 250 plus folks show up in a parking lot of his campaign office which was packed in what folks were calling VALLEYRAIGOSA COUNTRY.

Today hertzberg has 175 folks (max) in the valley (his base) with Keith Richman, Merv Dymally and Fred Gaines in attendance.

Alarcon - Has barely over 100 folks for his valley rally --

Hahn - doesn't have a rally but instead gives a speech to the smallest VICA crowd ever, to only have the Chair of Vica dissappointed over the mayor's comments including nothing on his vision.

State of the valley seems to be - VALLEYRAIGOSA.

January 30, 2005 8:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

State of the Eastside HAHN

February 01, 2005 9:15 AM  

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