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Monday, August 23, 2010

When Plastic Bags are Outlawed Only Outlaws Will Have Plastic Bags

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13 Comments:

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

Madness. Pure Lunacy.

It happens every time Democrats are in power.

August 23, 2010 9:09 PM  

Blogger Joe B. said:

Yes on AB1998! This should have been done years ago. Here's a few good reasons;

http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080506/multimedia02/80505016

August 23, 2010 9:29 PM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

Plastic bags are one thing. Joe this doesn't solve the problem. All it is is the state using the issue to pull more taxes in to cover their spending.

Want to see change? Give tax credits to stores that sell re-usable bags and require that part of those tax credits be given back to consumers in the form of a rebate for recycling.

August 23, 2010 9:39 PM  

Blogger Joe B. said:

Oh please. This is a very effective way to encourage business to dump the bags and avoid the fees. Every store sells reusable bags but they're not flying off the shelves at all. How many cloth bags do you see coming out of the market filled with groceries?
Tax credits won't work, just ban the damn things once and for all. Plastic water bottles as well.

August 23, 2010 9:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Cloth bags will result in LOTS more incidences of salmonella, and other foodborn illness even poisoning and death. Meat juices flowing into the bag mixed with other liquids and produce, ice cream and frozen food melting, produce getting yucked up.

And don't tell me those cheesy little plastic clear veggie bags will fix it - people will double-wrap using those and foods will still cross-contaminat each other and the cloth bad.

Studies have shown that after 5-10 uses there are enough serious bacteria in the bags to cause serious illness. So people will wash their bags, which is an environmental hazard as well, costs will go up, especially unfair to those who use public coin laundries or even those who have to pay in their buildings. People will buy expensive bags for cat litter and trash, people who now re-use grocery bags. That's only "nothing" for the rich or a single person or couple who doesn't buy tons of groceries or care what they spend on their pet.

Moms with many kids will especially suffer, you can't stuff so much into those bags, even if you have to buy 10, and wait til the lawsuits come from bacterial illnesses that result.

Stupid PC crap, no foresight, like with banning all business with Arizona, no thought of "unforeseen consequences." Unforeseen by doctrinaire fools.

Yes plastic bags wash up in the ocean and go down drain pipes because many people are pigs, especially and shoot me for saying so, in poor minority neighborhoods where you see people throwing bag trash in the street, out of cars at the 7-11 parking lot, etc.
So FINE them with heftier fines.

Charge a modest 3c fee per plastic bag, twice the store's cost, that's enough to make people re-use like it is in Europe.

Paper bags cost the stores 5c each and we'll see it added to our bill AND those have other environmental issues.

August 23, 2010 9:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm sorry. That last rant against plastic bags doesn't even deserve a response.

So it's madness, PC, lunacy, liberal overseers, socialist babysitting, blah, blah, blah... to you.

Oh god.

This is no different than Ron Kaye's blog on why Kevin James and Walter Moore should be "Campaign Instructors".

Right wingers are a small lot in LA and it just appears to be a lot of you on these two blogs.

August 23, 2010 11:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Clean Sweep LA is shaping up to be a totally Republican power grab. Did you see who the instructors are? What a joke.

August 23, 2010 11:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No, who are the Clean Sweep Instructors? Do tell.

August 24, 2010 12:12 AM  

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

Freedom-hating Joe B now deciding that other human beings have no freedom to use plastic bags, or bottles.

Because he says so.
And he knows better than you what is best for EVERYONE!

(Of course, he voted for Obama.)

August 24, 2010 12:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:30 is a fool. NOTHING she's reviling previous poster about has ANYTHING to do with "Republicans" or rightwingers. You probably work for the likes of Janice Hahn or Rosendahl.

Know NOTHING about what you're doing, no advance research, subject us to ENORMOUS lawsuits over serious catastrophic illness caused by filth and bacterial growth.

And are causing "unforeseen" environmental hazards and expense because you're too doctrinaire and stupid to research either the science or what works in other countries.

NO facts to rebut, just attacks. Because you've ruined the economy, raised unemployment despite raising taxes and the national deficit, you have to find something else to ban or tax.

Maybe cloth bags "aren't exactly flying out of the stores" because average people KNOW they're not worth the problems they cause. Even when stores GIVE them away.

It's People Like YOU who make Walter Moore and Kevin James look GOOD by comparison.

August 24, 2010 1:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:58 PM : You are so correct.

I use a plastic bag a day for cat litter. My kitchen trash can is lined with one. Multiple bags a day are used for smelly diapers. I re-use almost all that I bring home from the store and am hoarding the rest. The thought of having to buy expensive plastic bags just to throw them in the trash goes against my frugal nature.

I do see people using cloth bags, especially for random stuff. And education is obviously having an effect, as I see the bins at the market for recycling plastic bags are packed full.

The ban is shortsighted to say the least.

August 24, 2010 1:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I guess the police will have to be called out to arrest me for having a plastic bag. Yes, we need the plastic bag police!

Do others forget that now we can put those plastic bags in the blue recycle bin? Or, why aren't the stores required to have plastic bags that break down on their own?

August 24, 2010 8:06 AM  

Anonymous g said:

ALREADY THE ANONYMOUS BLOGGER'S FROM CITY HALL MISSED THE POINT ON CLEAN SWEEP IT'S NOT WALTER MOORE'S PERSONAL GROUP. THIS GROUPS IS OPEN TO ALL PARTIES AND OPINIONS. WE ALREADY HAVE GROUPS LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL WHO MAKE IT OBVIOUS THEY DON'T LIKE ANY GROUP THAT QUESTIONS THERE WILL. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY KEEP PEOPLE IN NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCILS UNDER THEIR THUMB. CLEAN SWEEP WANT'S OPENNESS AND TO ENABLE YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL TO HAVE A VOICE AND GIVE YOU MORE CONTROL OVER TAXES(FUNDS). IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME TEST IT YOURSELF. YOU ALL HAVE MUCH MORE TO WORRY ABOUT WITH CITY HALL AT THE WHEEL.

August 24, 2010 1:19 PM  

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