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Wednesday, July 28, 2010

Breaking: Judge Blocks "Show Me Your Papers" segment of SB1070 law.


A Federal Judge is blocking controversial portions of Arizona immigration law.

Sections blocked;

- Failing to carry registration papers a crime.
- Requiring law enforcement to check immigration status while enforcing other laws.
- Illegal for undocumented workers to solicit employment in public places.

Updates;
-Initial reactions.
-Governor Brewer's statement.
-Read the official ruling by U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton.
-Commentary from The Tucson Citizen.
-The Wingnuts jump up & down.

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38 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Joe B misses the big picture.

If the driver doesn't have a license, they can be arrested and THEN if they cannot demonstrate who they are, they can be deported.

Obviously, the BULLY JOE B. wants to frame this as a victory. But that's what liars and bullies do.

July 28, 2010 10:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Common sense prevails! The Constitution survives!

July 28, 2010 10:35 AM  

Blogger Joe B. said:

10:33,
That is the way the law is in Cali. Immigration status can be checked after an arrest has been made, not before. No one is arguing that. And I don't think you can be arrested for not having a drivers license. Ticketed, yes.

July 28, 2010 10:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Joe B. doesn't want illegals to have to have drivers licenses or social security cards. He thinks they have a right to a free car and a free job because they are illegal.

July 28, 2010 10:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Joe "Thinks" you don't have to have a DL to be arrested.

Joe, you must be one of the dumbest women I know. YES YOU CAN BE ARRESTED FOR DRIVING WITHOUT A LICENSE! IF THE OFFICER PLUGS YOUR NAME AND SS INTO THE SYSTEM AND YOU DONT HAVE A LICENSE, THAT'S PROBABLY CAUSE FOR ARREST!

Jesus Christ, you can delude yourself if you want to, but don't just make things up as you regularly do.

July 28, 2010 10:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Joe, why do you state what you don't know as fact?

-Burbank Police Offier

July 28, 2010 10:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Watch O'bama try to claim this was a victory, when there are sufficient portions of the bill that have survived

O'bama's desperation is palpable and even FUN to watch.

July 28, 2010 10:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Meanwhile, Barack Hussein Obama still doesn't have an immigration bill.

He said he'd do that in his first year. Nearing the end of his second year, and it's not even on the table.

BHO is toast

July 28, 2010 10:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

joe,

what has obama done about illegals?

anything?

tell us.

where is the help?

where are the national guard?

where is the law?

July 28, 2010 10:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Vermin illegally comes in the country, and refuses to leave. Bullies like Joe B. say that's okay.

July 28, 2010 10:57 AM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

Look here is what you have to do to solve the immigration problem:

1 - Secure the border.
2 - Enact severe restrictions on employers who hire illegals
3 - Deport all illegal from US jails.
4 - Create a tamperproof ID card (or use fingerprints)

The next thing is to create a program for mitigation for the illegals already here. Depending on how long you have been here you either go back home and get in line or you can fast track citizenship here in the US. If you're some single guy who is here for a couple years, go back. If you're a family that came here 20 years ago and you've been working, paying your taxes and never committed a felony, pay a fine and start the process.

If you're a youngster who was brought here illegally then join the service or go to college, get a degree and get a job and you can skip the fine and after three years of working following school you automatically get citizenship.

If the Democrats or Republicans don't like this plan they can kiss my ass.

July 28, 2010 10:59 AM  

Anonymous trojan2002 said:

1 - Secure the border.
2 - Enact severe restrictions on employers who hire illegals
3 - Deport all illegal from US jails.
4 - Create a tamperproof ID card (or use fingerprints)

Michael, it HAS TO BE in that order for it to work.

July 28, 2010 11:05 AM  

Blogger Michael Higby said:

Or we could just adopt Mexico's immigration law:

http://mexicoslaw.com/

July 28, 2010 11:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I WOULD BE HAPPY IF THE FUCKING VERMIN WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY WOULD SIMPLY LEARN TO SPEAK ENGLISH

HEY FATSO, WHY DIDN'T YOU MENTION ENGLISH?

ARE YOU SUCH A MORON THAT YOU WROTE THIS LONG COMMENT AND DIDN'T INCLUDE LEARNING ENGLISH?

OR ARE YOU TOO BUSY STUFFING YOUR FAT FACE THAT YOU COULDN'T EXPEND ENERGY ON THINKING?

July 28, 2010 11:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I hope Arizona tells the Feds to fuck off.

July 28, 2010 11:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"YOUNGSTER?"

How old are you higbie, 80?

"You youngesters shoulda seen me and grammy do the Lindy Hop back in the day."

July 28, 2010 11:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Michael:

That sounds like the Bush proposal, which doesn't necessarily make it all bad.

But don't we also need some sort of a guest worker program for those jobs that nobody in the U.S. wants. I was watching a news item on TV the other night about some ag area where the farms are going to have to close because they can't get people to work in the fields.

July 28, 2010 11:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Higby, while it would be good to deport illegals from our prisons to save money, billions probably (no one will give us an honest figure), it would only play into their hands since back in Mexico they'd be free to come right back across our border. The vast majority of those deported for crimes do, many times.

The conviction rate in Mexico and Guatemala for crimes: 2%. They'd be free as larks anywhere UNTIL we have some sort of agreement with Mexico and other Latin American countries to KEEP THEM IN JAIL once they go "home."

I think your suggesting that they have to be here 20 years before getting "a path to citizenship" may be reasonable, but the current number bandied about is 5 years, with many wanting NO waiting time.

It's appalling when you consider that ALL of LAST YEAR only 30,000 people from all over the world were granted political asylum. And that after grueling, rigorous and often expensive application processes via the "system." These are mostly from Haiti and Africa, some Guatemalans - meanwhile, some 30 MILLION illegals may reside here.

Also, what do we do about their relatives they'd bring over if they're legalized? They often have extended families at home, including elderly parents who'd need MediCare.

It's totally unfair the way those south of the border get different treatment from genuine persecution victims elsewhere in the world.
And then, many don't appreciate it, want "their own culture" at our public schools, etc.

We should definitely publicize THEIR immigration laws more.

The "Dream Act" would take money away from legal citizens' kids. The MOST discriminated against in the real world are middle class kids too "Rich" for scholarships but too poor to afford college.

No one is telling kids of illegals they can't attend college, just that they shouldn't get financial aid and tuition discounts meant for legal state residents. They can pay the out-of-state rates.
Liberals can fund scholarships.

Problem is, we can't have a reasonable discussion because any attempt to enforce the law and discuss genuine crime coming up through the border is called "racist" by the left, and on the right, we have genuine bigots and idiots, led by the likes of Walter Moore, Kevin James and nationally, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly.

O'Reilly's face on the Leno show this week was PRICELESS when the next guest, a producer of the Oscars, clearly gay, was talking about his upbringing in Brentwood with a sex therapist mother... He didn't even pretend to hide his disgust. These people are so judgmental and hateful you CAN'T have a reasonable discussion about ANYTHING.

July 28, 2010 11:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I voted for Obama, but this is going to cost him dearly on the political front.

The independents who wanted Obama to do something about immigration see this as Obama going against the will of the people.

The pundits are saying that this will be overturned in the SF Appeals court.

I can't foresee any circumstance where this won't hurt Obama.

July 28, 2010 11:35 AM  

Blogger Joseph Mailander said:

The special on Mexico's criminal justice system last night on KCET was harrowing. It made it seem like the worst country on the planet.

Detectives and police can point a finger at anyone and lock them up for twenty years, regardless of evidence. Even when they have no tangible evidence, they can do this. If they believe an accuser, the accused has no power whatsoever. Trials take place in front of administrators who admit they're being paid to lock as many people up as possible. Mexico needs America's help.

July 28, 2010 11:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Joe Bee this is home of LOS ANGELES politics not Arizona

and you didn't want illegals in your backyard shutting down HOME DEPORT you jerk!

screw you bully

July 28, 2010 11:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh no, Walter Moore is going to have a hissy fit!

July 28, 2010 12:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

He already is. He said the white people are going to vote out all the Mexicans.

July 28, 2010 12:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wednesday, July 28, 2010 the LOST Angeles City Council is Awaiting A Quorum Again which is customary here in Los Angeles. Council members Richard Alarcon, Bill Rosendahl, and Ed Reyes were late today. As a constituent said during public comment, the habitual late council members would be out of a job if they were working in the private sector.

Tuesday, July 27, 2010 Council members Paul Krekorian and Bill Rosendahl were also late. Additionally, Council member Jose Huizar was unable to lead the U.S. Pledge of Alligiance on Tuesday before council meeting but appeared to be a proud American Wednesday due to the blocks of part of SB 1070 by the Federal Judge.

The Pledge of Allegiance

"I pledge allegiance"
(I promise to be true)

"to the flag"
(to the symbol of our country)

"of the United States of America"
(each state that has joined to make our country)

"and to the Republic"
(a republic is a country where the people choose others to make laws for them -- the government is for the people)

"for which it stands,"
(the flag means the country)

"one Nation"
(a single country)

"under God,"
(the people believe in a supreme being)

"indivisible,"
(the country cannot be split into parts)

"with liberty and justice"
(with freedom and fairness)

"for all."
(for each person in the country)

July 28, 2010 1:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The portions of SB1070 which have the most impact have been left. Anyone applying for any public assistance or program who is in the country illegally must be reported to Immigration. The person doing the intake will be charged with a crime if they fail to report the applicant. The employees Supervisor will be charged with a crime if they fail to report the employees failure to report. This is for all public programs including education and medical not just welfare or housing.

This section of SB1070 received little or no attention.

I am strongly in support of the sections of the Bill which were striken, but this section that goes into affect tomorrow is going to make criminals out of public employees. This is just too much of a step.

July 28, 2010 2:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

At last, the line's been drawn in the sand. The lib-dems think they've won, but come the elections the voters of this country will deliver a resounding thumb's down to Obama's administration. After that happens, and it will happen because the majority are royally pissed off at illegal immigration, it won't matter what the Federal Courts say about Arizona's right to secure the safety of their residents, because you'll see a 180 degree U turn by the failing community organizer as he tries to 'get tough' on illegals. Think of it as another BP 'foot on the neck' thing. OTO (One Term Obama) is sinking faster than a Louisiana Turtle, only he doesn't know it.

July 28, 2010 2:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Joe no one cares.

July 28, 2010 3:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Not saying Obama is going to survive, but Bush won two terms... Anything is possible.

Obama against a generic candidate would not win, but once they actually nominate someone the game could change quickly. Palin? Romney? Jindal? Hmmmm, not so clear cut then.

July 28, 2010 3:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You're Right Michael. Go after the employers like ICE has raided American Apparel a couple of times and found over 1,600 illegals working in downtown LA just at that one place. The illegals are saying "racial profiling": and it scares them. Yeah, right it sure as hell doesn't scare them when they blatantly break our laws here in LA illegal vending right in front of cops. Notice eveything The Mayor and City Council does is UN AMERICAN. Next month is immigrant pride month according to them. The failures of this city. Everyone google Sheriff Joe and Gov. Brewer and tell them Angelenos support Arizona

July 28, 2010 3:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

TO THE TUNE OF "CAMPTOWN RACES"

Jennerjahn is wrong again
DO DAH, DO DAH
Jennerjahn is wrong once more
All the live-long day!

Phil's a stupid jerk
Full of stupid quirks

Jennerjahn is wrong agaain
All the dumb ass day!

July 28, 2010 4:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Joe B., since you love illegals, how come you shut out their favorite hangout in your hood, the Home Depot?

Anyways, it'll all come back to bite obama big time in November, and then watch the new congress defund healthcare. Two years of lame duckness and bitter o'bama will be toast. He already is.

July 28, 2010 4:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Phil Jennerjahn,

You predicted that the 1070 law would be "completely" upheld.

You're not only wrong again, you are a COMOPLETE JINX you moron!

Every thing you touch turns to much, you Mush!

Love, Mommy

July 28, 2010 5:14 PM  

Blogger Phil Jennerjahn said:

People should be very worried about this issue.
If the Federal Government chooses sides with the illegal immigrants, it could cause the political breakup of our country.

It would be the final straw for many States.

July 28, 2010 5:35 PM  

Anonymous trojan2002 said:

3:24, the 2012 nominee will be somebody "new". Tea Party needs to calm down and let the Republicans do their thing because if the Tea Party is in charge it will be Romney or Palin.
Jindal has no shot. If JC Watts couldn't win a race for US Senate, there's no way the christian right will get behind Jindal.
Jeb Bush WOULD win. But he's not running.
Pawlenty is a weak GOP candidate but would beat Obama. Christie would win, but the tea party f'd that up.

keep your eyes on Mitch Daniels, GOV of Indiana.

July 28, 2010 8:34 PM  

Anonymous Donkey Joto said:

Joe Mailander should read this artice about Mexico's justice system, UnInformed Joe seems to think Mexico can jail anybody it wants.

"Only 1.5 of every 10 individuals charged with drug trafficking and murder in Mexico ends with a sentence, while the remaining of the 85% go free for lack of evidence even if the PAN government brags about their arrests in the media."



http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/07/85-of-drug-traffickers-are-set-free.html

July 29, 2010 2:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Both Joe m AND last poster are right: in Mexico, cops can make allegations without backing them up to get people thrown in jail for a long time but by the same token, a "lack of evidence" in cases where the drug traffickers are connected.

Case in point, according to the L A Times just last week, part of its series of articles on mass murder in Mexico: only 2% of criminals are actually convicted.

Meanwhile, the killers of the 17 people at a birthday party were let out of prison to commit the murders, then allowed right back in for protection by guards.

July 29, 2010 9:17 AM  

Anonymous g said:

JAMILES LAW IS WAITING, SIGN ON AND CHANGE LA. HERE THE ADS ON KRLA AND KABC RADIO. IT'S COMING ALL IT NEEDS IS YOU. IF YOU WANT DEAD PEOPLE HANGING FROM FREEWAY OVER PASSES OR SHOOT OUTS IN THE STREETS DON'T DO ANYTHING. BUT IF IT CONCERNS YOU DO SOMETHING. THIS LAW WILL HAPPEN OTHER STATES ARE GOING DOWN THE ROAD. ARIZONA IS NOT ALONE.

July 30, 2010 4:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Judge Susan Bolton needs to read the constitution of the United States before making any rulings.

July 30, 2010 7:28 PM  

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