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Thursday, March 27, 2008

Governor Doesn't Blame Immigrants for CA Budget Woes

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America has a long history of blaming immigrants whenever the economy sours or is in what our president calls a "slowdown." According to the Sacramento Bee, Governor Schwarzenegger called it a "big mistake" yesterday to blame immigrants for the state budget gap (around $8 billion). Below are some quotes from Kevin Yamamura's piece.

"There is, you know, always a time like this where you start pointing the finger at various different elements of what creates the budget mess, and, you know, some may point the finger at illegal immigrants," Schwarzenegger said. "I can guarantee you, I have been now four years in office in Sacramento, I don't think that illegal immigration has created the mess that we are in."

"There's a cost associated with illegal immigration whether we're in a deficit mode or not," said Assemblyman Ted Gaines, R-Roseville. "I think it just becomes more (significant) when we're in a deficit mode and we're having to make tough cuts across the board in education and health and human services. Those should be provided to the citizens of this country and people who came to this country legally."

"Frankly, they're wrong," said Senator Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles. "The fact of the matter is, immigrants have a positive impact on the economy and the budget, and they're essential to California's prosperity. We can't have a prosperous future without immigrant workers."

"It's just a gray, murky area that people want to use as a political football," said USC demographer Dowell Myers.


Read the full story.

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40 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ed HeadUpAss,

As usual you refuse to acknowledge that a large percentage of Los Angeles latino gang members are illegal aliens.

And an even larger percentage of the LAUSD students are illegal aliens.

Just wait until the more affluent areas of Los Angeles decide to dump Los Angeles and incorporate into their own cities. The city of Los Angeles will be a really "broke-ass" ghetto with nothing but poor illegal immigrants. Anybody who lives in Los Angeles knows the cost of illegal aliens to our economy and society.

What do you think is going happen with the 50% of the LAUSD students who drop out of high school every year? Does Ed HeadUpAss think the illegal alien "drop-outs" from LAUSD are going to be paying millions of dollars in taxes? Of course not, the budget problems of Los Angeles are only going to get worse, if we continue allowing every poor illegal immigrant to sneak across the border.

Does HeadUpAss really expect the Mayor of Los Angeles to admit or even announce the billions we now spend for services for illegal aliens?

Anyone who graduated middle-school knows you need to have a tax-base to run a city.

Millions of uneducated immigrants equal another Tijuana, with lots of crime and no money for any social services. What is so difficult about this concept for Ed HeadUpAss to understand?

March 27, 2008 11:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A little fact for Ed HeadUpAss and the other illegal alien pandering pendejos. What does Sheriff Baca know about the county jails?

http://www.lapd.com/article.aspx?&a=2188

Each year, the County Jail system processes about 170,000 inmates, and federal officials estimate that a fourth of them are illegal immigrants. But with just a fraction of the foreign-born being questioned, officials say it is impossible to know exactly how many illegal immigrants are in the system and how much the county should receive in federal compensation.

March 27, 2008 11:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Cedillo said'
"The fact of the matter is, immigrants have a positive impact on the economy and the budget, and they're essential to California's prosperity. We can't have a prosperous future without immigrant workers."

I agree completely. I do not agree that we have to have an immigant ecomony based on ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!

March 27, 2008 11:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Just wait until the more affluent areas of Los Angeles decide to dump Los Angeles and incorporate into their own cities. The city of Los Angeles will be a really "broke-ass" ghetto with nothing but poor illegal immigrants. Anybody who lives in Los Angeles knows the cost of illegal aliens to our economy and society.'

Wasn't East LA going to become an independent city? What happened?

March 27, 2008 11:31 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

They're giving it to Tony Villar as a retirement gift.

March 27, 2008 11:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wasn't East LA going to become an independent city? What happened?

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East L.A. is not the affluent part of Los Angeles. East L.A. could not afford to become an independent city. East Los Angeles has to many poor illegal aliens to become independent, even the mexican politicos of East L.A realized that you can't build a city when you have too many illegal alien poor and uneducated residents.

The irony of course is obvious.

March 27, 2008 11:56 AM  

Anonymous Mad As Hell said:

Do the math: illegal aliens cost California taxpayers $9 billion each year according to the state. California faces an $8 billion budget gap.

I frankly don't give a shit what Schwarzenegger has to say. He is pompous phony. I voted for the jerk because he promised to fix California's fiscal problems. He's become Gray Davis on steroids.

McClintock was right.

March 27, 2008 12:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

East Los Angeles is unincorporated LA County. A real pit too.

March 27, 2008 12:29 PM  

Anonymous mickey finn said:

No, East Los Angeles is not the affluent part of L.A, it's the effluent part.

March 27, 2008 12:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let me introduce you to Mexican gang member David A. Garcia, currently on trail for the murder of Officer Matthew Pavelka, the first Burbank law enforcement officer to be killed by a suspect in 83 years.

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http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_8665485

Campbell called for backup and Pavelka, 26, a rookie officer with 10 months service under his belt, responded to the scene when Aranda and Garcia came out of the car blasting away, police said. The officers returned fire, killing Aranda. Campbell was hit twice, with one bullet damaging his spinal cord. Pavelka, shot numerous times, was mortally wounded. Garcia escaped over a wall. Stehr helped lead a multiagency task force, which led to Garcia's arrest and extradition from Mexico 13 days after the killing.

March 27, 2008 12:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Did the governor blame Jack Hoff for farting?

March 27, 2008 1:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So...USC is sponsoring an illegal alien football team?

March 27, 2008 1:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let me introduce you to Mexican gang member member, David A. Garcia, finally be tried for the murder of Officer Matthew Pavelka, the first Burbank law enforcement officer to be killed by a suspect in 83 years. What is the cost and affect on society, for having so many mexican illegal alien gang members in California?

http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_8665485

“Campbell called for backup and Pavelka, 26, a rookie officer with 10 months service under his belt, responded to the scene when Aranda and Garcia came out of the car blasting away, police said. The officers returned fire, killing Aranda. Campbell was hit twice, with one bullet damaging his spinal cord. Pavelka, shot numerous times, was mortally wounded. Garcia escaped over a wall.
Stehr helped lead a multiagency task force, which led to Garcia's arrest and extradition from Mexico 13 days after the killing.


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What do you think the cost of investigation, prosecuting and arresting this mexican street gang was?

http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/bad-night-for-the-vineland-boyz/515/?page=1

“When a gang member fatally wounded Burbank Police Officer Matthew Pavelka in 2003, officers vowed that they would not rest until they stopped the gang that killed one of their own.

The officers lived up to their promise Tuesday with the help of more than 1,300 federal and local law-enforcement officers who took part in dozens of predawn raids dubbed “Operation Silent Night” that stretched from Los Angeles to Palmdale and Rosamond and as far away as Bakersfield, arresting 23 suspected Vineland Boyz gang members who call the San Fernando Valley cities of Sylmar, Sunland and Burbank home.”

March 27, 2008 1:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Another illegal immigrant story from today's Daily News.


http://www.dailynews.com/breakingnews/ci_8717126

"Zuniga was in Las Vegas police custody facing unrelated gun possession charges while Los Angeles police were requesting his extradition to L.A. to face murder charges. Zuniga is accused of shooting Reyes after an argument, then fleeing with his family to Mexico where he lived for an unknown amount of time, Wheeler said. A second man, Severino Dominguez, who was 23 at the time, was identified as a second shooter in the case. He was convicted and served seven years after pleading guilty to manslaughter, Wheeler said.

March 27, 2008 2:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Did the governor blame Jack Hoff for farting?

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Yes.

March 27, 2008 2:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ch. 7 news yesterday even quoted a report that the cost of incarcerating illegal criminal RECIDIVISTS, just the ones repeat arrested, cost Calif. almost $900 million last year, while the feds compensated with just $100m.

Then there are schools, all 11 County health clinics failing, ER's closing and deep in the red -- another billion min. from illegals in healthcare, and billions more in schools.

Of course Cedillo gets his votes by lying to the "anglos," as do Nunez, and local idiots like Alarcon and the rest. (Alarcon especially ticked me off in City Council yesterday by claiming that there's NO threat to national security from the southern borders, since all the 9/11 terrorists came by plane.

Hey, retard -- since then our airways have become like prisons, so now even Bush/Chertoff admitted there are tons of sleeper cells in the country who came up from the Southern border, passing as Mexicans. Some via Canada, too.)

Arnold is afraid to state the truth because he'll be called a "racist," with this huge Hispanic/leftist Dem base in control of the state and city.

But Head-uo-His-Butt, who are YOU pandering to and why?

March 27, 2008 2:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ed HeadUpHisButt and Jack Hoff farting is one lethal combination of pro-illegal suck ups.

March 27, 2008 2:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Don't forget the other illegal alien and cholo suck up Don Quackers.

March 27, 2008 2:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How come the gavachos and republicans have so much vitriol?

California is great because of the Mexican workers who built California.

If California has money problems it's because Bush and the greedy gavacho republicans stealing all the money.

There are gangs and crime because the republicans and Bush don't spend money in the varrios. And the LAPD is corrupt, remember Rampart scandal, the cops are dirty.

March 27, 2008 3:32 PM  

Blogger Don Culo said:

^^^^^^^^^^^
That is my post

March 27, 2008 3:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

EdHed,

I have heard you are a nice guy. I understand you come from a distinguished family. I understand your wife's family are immigrants who have followed the law and made success of themselves.

Why do you pander for the pro-illegal community? What is it you feel guilty about? Did you kill a bird when you were a kid?

March 27, 2008 3:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A couple of lefties tries to explain why illegal immigration is such a net huge benefit to L A County, in the L A Times 3/22 Op Ed piece on illegal immigration isn't the answer (to fixing our economic woes) -- Myers/ Pastor are the clowns in question.

But they throw out numbers which undermine their own "arguments" and never offer any better ones, any more than that pandering apologist Cedillo: Myers/Pastor tell us that 1/3 of L A County's total population consists of immigrants (mostly illegal) BUT 2/3 OF THE COUNTY'S YOUTH ARE THEIR CHILDREN.

At this huge rate of birth, what does that tell us about just the next generation? It will be rare to see an "anglo sighting," and blacks will be staying in their armed and barricaded hoods.

March 27, 2008 4:43 PM  

Blogger Edward Headington said:

I guess this is kill the messenger. I was merely sharing what Yamamura reported in the Sac Bee and posting because there seems to be an interest in all things immigration--gangs, federal reimbursements, education, healthcare, licenses, etc--on this blog and its connection to politics (local, state and federal).

Whether you agree with Gaines, Schwarzenegger, or Cedillo, there is a historical connection between blaming immigrants--illegal and otherwise--and the economy. Perhaps that qualifies as opinion in your estimation(s) and thus worthy of barbed responses, but it is a historical fact (Europeans/Irish, Asian/Chinese, Latin America/Mexicans, etc.). It just seems a little silly to suggest where my head might be or that I'm pandering for posting what Yamamura reported so that we can have a conversation about it.

Let me close with some opinion though: maybe if we spent more time and resources on domestic issues for the American people and less on wars of choice and foreign adventures, we would have more success on important issues like immigration--whether it be stricter enforcement measures first, comprehensive immigration reform, amnesty or enforcing the laws already on the books.

March 27, 2008 5:01 PM  

Anonymous Mexico is what's broken said:

If Mexican workers can claim responsibility for building anything in LA, it's the LAPD's most wanted list.

March 27, 2008 5:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

And their own horrible reputations.

I regularly see grown men urinating in public. Ten years ago? Never.

March 27, 2008 5:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

^^^^
that;s because the gavachos and republicans do not provide toilets.

March 27, 2008 5:28 PM  

Blogger don quixote said:

Anonymouse, you want to see some real welfare supported, backwards, dried up and economically challenged areas?
Then go visit any of the plains states from North Dakota down through the old dust bowl areas of Oklahoma, Kansas, west Texas, Eastern Montana, E. Wyo, E. Colo, E. NM and all around the Rocky Mtn small towns.
You will find mostly white Americans living a marginal existence, in substandard housing (many single wide mobile home), Lot's of welfare and food stamps, lots of alcohol and drug abuse, Lot's of youngsters killing themselves while driving drunk or on methamphetamine, lot's of crime, (mostly spousal abuse, assault, drunk driving, petty drug dealing, poaching deer, theft),and if they want a better life few options are available so the youngsters join the military and become cannon fodder and used and abused in places like Iraq.
If they survive they either move to some distant city or come home and become a local cop or fireman making 10 bucks an hour (and you have to buy your own gun and uniform) or they join the others crying in their beers down at the local bars.

Jobs are low paying or non existent in these areas, except for work with the road dept fixing the highways and byways of America over and over whether they need fixin or not, maybe a job with the power co., many of these American family's in the Mtn States are "mining tramps" who follow the working mines from place to place, this year it could be Coal in Colo or Montana or Utah, maybe copper in Morenci or Superior Arizona, or Silver City NM, or could be gold in Idaho, or Molybdenum in NM or the gypsum or talc mines in Green River Wyoming. Work for a while until the mines close down due to over supply of the commodity, then collect welfare and food stamps, work the fires for the USFS in summer, then more welfare till something picks up.

Oh yeah it's not the Mexicans that are the drain or even the majority white folks trying to hustle a buck, it's just the times we live in now, real wages at a decades low rate, a dog eat dog existence, broken and weak labor union's, rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.
But the old blame the Mexicans, or the Blacks, or someone, "divide and conquer" ploy always seems to work when necessary, to keep the working man confused and at bay.

Check out where the Mexican migrants are at and that's usually where the economy is good or at least where one can hustle a buck, where you find Mexican workers isn't where the economy is weak but where the economy is stronger and jobs are available.

No more divide and conquer, lets get it together and make our so called representatives represent us, the real people of the USA

March 27, 2008 5:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

^^^^^^^^^^^
Yes I agree, our government must better represent the American cizitens, not a bunch if illegal aliens from Mexico who sneak across the border.

We have enough problems we don't need Mexico's problems as well.

March 27, 2008 11:10 PM  

Anonymous DonCocksucker said:

Anonymouse, you want to see some real welfare supported, backwards, dried up and economically challenged areas?
Then go visit any of the plains states from North Dakota down through the old dust bowl areas of Oklahoma, Kansas, west Texas, Eastern Montana, E. Wyo, E. Colo, E. NM and all around the Rocky Mtn small towns.


Maybe. But at least they ain't coming here in busloads.

March 27, 2008 11:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don CockSucker

SHUT UP!

March 27, 2008 11:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Can Don Culo can you be any more ridiculous, how many gangs murders are in Wyoming and Colorado? Do you think the crime and murder rate is higher in the California varrios OR the Wyoming plains. Look it up, baboso your a dumb-ass blow-hard as usual.

So you say we have plenty of American red-necks and we need more mexican cholos and poor illegal aliens to make it better, no seas tan pendejo Don Culo. You are as stupid as they come, did you get your education in an LAUSD "skool", ese?

Learn to put up a better debate, now go back to Wally's and tell those bullshit stories about being a cholo in N.E. Los Angeles, and bore the little wanna-be cholitos. That is more your style, tell them again about the mayates in the pinta.

March 28, 2008 2:21 AM  

Blogger don quixote said:

Anonymouse if you had any capability for debate I might discuss with you the subject of immigration, but you have no debate and you aren't a capable or worthy opponent, your only ability is the brain numbing and boring posting up of "Mexican gang reprints" ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! that nobody ever comments on.

You can post up this mierda till the cows come home but the fact is the immigration "problem" is far down on the list of the topics the US public really gives a shit about.
Number one concern is the economy, that is in a meltdown due to your Right Wingnut crony's and the Bush Administrations policy's of supporting the old failed Milton Friedman "Supply Side Economics" aka "The Trickle Down Theory" along with more "Deregulation" (hence the mortgage, banking, and financial crisis),and assisting the modern day "Robber Barons" of monopoly capitalism to rape and pillage at will.
Number two concern of the American Public is the ridiculous,costly, no win, Iraq War that again the Bush apologists like yourself have shoved up our collective ass's based on fiction and continuous bullshit, and that has become evident to the US public that it is a hog feeding trough for greedy Bush crony's to get fat on on the body's of dead and wounded American soldiers not to mention the untold numbers of Iraqi's killed wounded and displaced.
One of these days when this war ends I hope these bastards will be tried as war criminals.
Number three concern is this country's dependence on foreign oil and energy cost's which are killing the working people of the country (even Mexicans you menso), and is having a negative effect on the economy and lives of us all.

So numb-nuts you just keep posting up your ripped off articles from various periodicals about some gang killings involving Mexican Americans, and you keep ranting your vitriol and ethnocentric blablaso's till your little pea brains content, but your right wing attempt at diversion in the form of this chicken little "the sky is falling" immigration scare is not resonating with the American public whose main concern is, as always, "the economy stupid"

Si Se Puede! Viva Obama!

March 28, 2008 6:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LA will continue to become a sewer and the illegals will continue to ruin our city as long as we have idiots like city council and mayor supporting illegals. They want to make this city a sanctuary. Hope the feds come in and start raiding like they have other cities. The media NEVER reports that there are thousands of Latinos born and raised in this city that want the ILLEGALS deported.

March 28, 2008 6:59 AM  

Blogger don quixote said:

The "expert" speaks from his Valhalla in Bullhead City Ariz where he is considered a modern day oracle (or is that orifice?).

March 28, 2008 7:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It seems that Mayor Sam's blog has been infiltrated by a reconquista.
Don Q..Why don't you see that
Mexico is well on its way in
creating an Illegal Mexican Nation
within the borders of the USA and
Los Angeles is the Capital of it!
Latinos should be cleaning their
own houses like the Irish did
to remove the stigma of illegality!

March 28, 2008 10:37 AM  

Blogger don quixote said:

I don't know about the Irish, from what I understand there are a shitload of "undocumented" Irish in the USA especially in the Boston, NYC areas.
maybe you should clean your own house, oh I forgot you have Latina maids to do that for you, you know the ones that steal food from you for their kids.

March 28, 2008 11:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don Quixote wants all things mexican.

1)Drug Cartels corrupting government officials and cops.
2)Schools which don't educate it's students
3)Burning bodies on the streets.
4)Trash on every street

We already have 3-4 in Los Angeles.

I hope the federal government finally realizes the problem with having a sanctuary city. Mayor V just met with the Attorney General asking for help combating crime and gangs. Guess what, the Attorney General asked the Mayor about L.A. sanctuary status and it's effect on gang membership. Expect the FBI and Attorney General to ask for more ICE/INS deportations.

We have daily murders by Mexican gang members here in Los Angeles, and even more throughout California. LAUSD has a 50% drop rate thanks in part to so many illegal aliens. Los Angeles will eventually have an even larger budget crisis as more of the high-school drop-out use social services and pay no taxes.

Of course the problem of illegal immigration is a larger problem for the people of Los Angeles, we live with the problem every day. The people of Wyoming don't have mexican gangs murdering people every day.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-twoshot29mar29,0,3963245.story
"Los Angeles police are searching for suspects in the slayings of two men in their 20s early this morning on South Figueroa near West 43rd Street. Both died at the scene, and police have not released their names, Lopez said. Lopez said investigators were trying to determine this morning whether the shootings were gang- or drug-related."

March 28, 2008 11:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don Culo writes ....
"So numb-nuts you just keep posting up your ripped off articles from various periodicals about some gang killings involving Mexican Americans, and you keep ranting your vitriol and ethnocentric blablaso's till your little pea brains content, but your right wing attempt at diversion in the form of this chicken little "the sky is falling" immigration scare is not resonating with the American public whose main concern is, as always, "the economy stupid"

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Check this out pendejo, people in Los Angeles do care about the problem of illegal immigration.

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/los-angeles-daily-news/

March 28, 2008 11:47 AM  

Anonymous Pedro Pupusa said:

Why does Don Culo think only gavachos worry about illegal immigration?

Don Culo no seas tan pendejo, tu no sabes de que hablas. Muchos latinos saben que los mexicanos se aprovenchan de los estados unidos.

Pedro Pupusa

March 28, 2008 12:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NINA: No Irish Need Apply

March 28, 2008 3:29 PM  

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