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Sunday, January 27, 2008

EQUAL TIME: Reasons Why People SHOULD NOT Vote For Hillary Clinton, Zuma Dogg Calls C-Span & Dowd Sings About "S"

Some readers are wondering if paid political operatives have returned to Mayor Sam's Sister City - Home of Los Angeles Politics blog, now that the Clinton campaign is heading to California to get those house parties and bus caravans organized.

I know everyone is aware of all the good reasons to vote for Hillary. But how about posting some of the reasons to vote for ANYONE BUT HILLARY. In other words, what are some reasons you don't think people should vote for Hillary as the nominee, or as President.

I know the one reason I hope you don't vote for her: Can you imagine having to listen to Shillary shout through her nose for four years?

Meanwhile, the Clinton campaign has millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars to spend on advertising. So I'm sure they wouldn't be wasting their time here. ;)

NOTE: Comments posted here may be copy and pasted on over 100 other election blogs operated by ZD...so make 'em juicy!

ZUMA DOGG on C-SPAN Weighing In on Presidential Elections
(Because the nation was waiting!)

PROP S - EQUAL TIME: Matt "Guitar" Dowd "Yes on S" Video
LA City finally has the endorsement they were waiting for!

Clinton Campaign Co-Chair Fabian Nunez Corruption Scandal, Y'all!

(This is why vote no on "S", Hillary and Prop 93)

12/28 Pre-bell UPDATE: Gold trading at record high levels in overnight markets as dollar weakens on expectation of further Fed rate cuts this week: strategyupdate.com


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Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hmm, well I can't think of one reason not to vote for Hillary, so I think I will.

January 27, 2008 4:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No one, and that means NO ONE, will inspire Republicans to come out to the polls more than the Clintons.

For those who want a Democratic president and congress, a Clinton nomination woud add to the Republican turnout for BOTH the presidential AND congressional races.

Just ask any Republican you know. Mention Obama and you get a lukewarm response. Same for Edwards. Mention Clinton and you see fire in their eyes. The WILL come out to the polls JUST TO DEFEAT A CLINTON. (Also true for MANY independents)

We can't afford to lose the presidency and close congressional seats due to Clinton baggage.

Should Hillary GET elected, just about anyone thinks that some partisan types with grudges to settle will bring out and/or create scandals to paralyze a Clinton presidency. Do we REALLY need more Whitewater, Travelgate, Monica, Whatever? Whether or not the scandal is "-gate" is real or manufactured, it will STILL stop forward progress.

Can anyone imagine a more disasterous outcome than a bruising partisan battle followed by a bruising face-off for 4 years?

There is too much to do to fix everything that has been broken by Bush.

The Clinton's time has passed. They have too much baggage. Their politics is to divide and conquer. Time for a new direction. Time to work together.

January 27, 2008 4:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Okay, if you want a reason not to vote for her: You know the WACKO theory: Why are the Clintons Killing their Opponents, which has been featured on a recent thread in this very blog.

January 27, 2008 4:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Agreed. Just look at what Romney said during the debate. The Clintons will spend so much time dodging rep incoming fire, nothing will get done.

Romney: "The idea of Bill Clinton back in the White House with nothing to do is something I can’t imagine,"

January 27, 2008 4:41 PM  

Anonymous big bertha said:

What are you talking about?

I have not seem or read anything about a WACKO therory, of Clintin's killing there opponents.

January 27, 2008 4:42 PM  

Anonymous drinking with zuma said:

Romney: "The idea of Bill Clinton back in the White House with nothing to do is something I can’t imagine,"


Romney stole that line from Bill Maher, Bill showed a tape of himself saying that line on the Jay Leno show.

January 27, 2008 4:46 PM  

Anonymous jim said:

I would like Zuma to be president, we would love to hear Zuma end a press conference with a big hoody-hoo.

And Zuma can call the congress and senate a bunch of cry-baby losers.

January 27, 2008 4:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


That doesn't mean that the quote doesn't reflect the mindset of reps.

Just watch Fox News. For the last week they have been unable to do anything other than go after Bill even though he is only sort of running.

What a disaster.

January 27, 2008 4:57 PM  

Blogger drinking with tony, said:

Candidate handlers - masters of sleight of hand, misdirection and persuasion, who dazzle their employer's, citizen-audience and leave them gasping - Now how'd they do that? And while the tricked try to figure out the mechanics of deep black illusions, for years the political "magi" have been getting away with murder. And they will continue to do so, until enough people take their eyes off the tricks, and look at the tricksters...Now my four finger Patron Añejo Tequila, Mortiica querida!

January 27, 2008 5:44 PM  

Anonymous Radio Producer said:

IF Hillary Clinton is the nominee, it will come out very soon that she has had a Lesbian relationship with one of her closet aides, one that's been going on for over a dozen years. Hillary's female lover reportedly lives in Georgetown.

This information is sitting in Republican operative files and in embargo with key nationwide syndicated radio hosts. Its the nuclear option.

January 27, 2008 6:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

One word:

She equally shares in the blame and guilt in this crime as her husband does.

Another reason:
Her husband was only the second president in our history to be impeached. She is a mirror image of her husband. Why on earth would we want to have the same corrupt politics in the white house again? Haven't we had enough of the old political machine already? The Clinton's don't deserve to have a White House dynasty.

January 27, 2008 7:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

When a candidate can refer to Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton as "change," then they are not to be trusted.

January 27, 2008 8:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Clinton connection?


Los Angeles, CA
Ogden, UT
Pharr, TX
San Antonio, TX


January 27, 2008 8:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The only president that should have been impeached is Bush. Who cares who Clinton fucked, a few woman here and there, Bush has fucked this whole country and voted to do so twice. Maybe the Clintons have an open marriage, who cares. Whats important is that this country was never so good as when they ran it. I guess its easier to focus on picking them apart than on the real seious damage that BUsh has done, or is it too embarassing to think that he was voted in twice to lie to everyone while lining the pockets of his friends. Bills sex life in unimportant. Think about the taxes that your granchildren and great grandchilden are going to have to pay for this generation and imagine the wasteland that will eventually be our planet if bush gets way with the rest of his plans to rape this beautiful land.

January 27, 2008 8:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Royality and people in public office have been having lovers for hundreds of years. It is only this prude country that needs to get over the sex thing. Go to europe and you will openly see nudity and affection. What you dont see is the violance that is openly excepted here.

January 27, 2008 8:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who is the dude with the issue with Zuma who can't keep on target?

January 27, 2008 9:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hillary Clinton’s campaign is currently paying four conservative sites not to run her ads.

January 27, 2008 9:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

nothing is stopping all of you from posting positive comments about Hillary on blogs, so I think we should resume that tactic

January 27, 2008 9:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hillary’s Weekly Payments to Liberal Bloggers

DailyKos.com — $4,900.00
TalkingPointsMemo.com — $2,500.00
CrooksandLiars.com — $2,500.00
Firedog Lake — $2,500.00
Eschaton — $2,500.00
America Blog — $2,000.00
Washington Monthly Blog — $1,500.00
Political Wire — $1,000.00
TalkLeft — $700.00
The Agonist — $450.00
Hullabaloo — $400.00

January 27, 2008 9:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A pro-Clinton website tried to pay people to leave positive comments about Clinton on blogs

January 27, 2008 9:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hillary Clinton's campaign has crossed so many ethical lines it risks embittering so many potential supporters as to cost the Democrats the November election. If all the new voters that Obama's bringing in are so angered they decide to stay home, it's going to be extremely difficult for the Democrats to beat a candidate like McCain, particularly if the Republicans have Hillary to mobilize against.

January 27, 2008 9:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Clinton 's gotten money from a succession of particularly noxious sources. Start with her donation from Rupert Murdoch, who's given to no other Democrat. Add in massive amounts of money from Washington lobbyists and from industries like defense, banking, health care, and oil and energy providers (though Obama's also gotten a lot from some of these industries). Then there's Norman Hsu, who brought in over $850,000 to Hillary's campaign after returning to the US following his flight to evade a fraud conviction (Hsu was subsequently rearrested, sentenced to three years, and is facing further federal charges, and the campaign eventually returned the money he'd raised). There's the Nebraska data processing company InfoUSA, whose CEO, Vin Gupta, used private corporate jets to fly the Clintons on business, personal, and campaign trips, gave Bill Clinton a $3.3 million consulting contract, and is now being investigated by the Securities and Exchange Commission for allegedly diverting company money to his own personal uses.

January 27, 2008 9:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, I am not surprised, because people are so stupid. They have to have it all spelt out for them in a paid blog or whatever. When Bush was voted in for the second time, one of Europes biggest papers said "how can 150 million americans be so stupid, AGAIN!"

January 27, 2008 9:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mississippi attorney Dickie Scruggs recently canceled a major December 15 Hillary fundraiser (with Bill Clinton headlining) after being indicted for trying to bribe a judge. Major international sweatshop owners, the Saipan-based Tan family, have given Clinton $26,000, complementing their previous massive support for Jack Abramoff and Tom Delay. That doesn't even count dubious supporters from the past, like Peter Paul, the convicted con-artist turned event producer who coordinated a massive Hollywood Clinton fundraiser during the 2,000 election, but has now become a bitter Clinton critic.

January 27, 2008 9:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

We can find further distortions in a mailing sent out before the Iowa caucuses by the independent expenditure committee of a key Clinton ally, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. The AFSCME mailing attacked Obama on his health care plan by using a John Edwards quote that was featured so prominently that recipients could assume that his campaign was the source of the attack piece. This and other actions so disturbed a group of seven AFSCME International Vice Presidents wrote a public letter to their union president, saying that although the union had endorsed Clinton on a split vote, the political committee had no mandate to attack Obama. They demanded the committee stop what they called "fundamentally dishonest" attacks.

January 27, 2008 9:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Think of the lawsuit filed by the pro-Clinton leadership of the Nevada teacher's union (and supported.overtly by Bill Clinton), which sought to prevent long-scheduled caucuses from being held at central locations on the main casino strip, under the assumption, which turned out to be false that Obama's endorsement by the dominant Culinary Workers Union would lead these caucuses to give him massive support. New Hampshire saw parallel voter suppression tactics, as the campaign encouraged the New Hampshire Democratic Party to evict Obama get-out-the-vote observers from the polls. In Iowa , the Clinton Campaign tried to discourage out-of-state students from returning to their campuses to participate in the caucuses

January 27, 2008 9:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

When the Nevada caucuses actually took place, eye-witnesses produced repeated accounts of Clinton supporters who tried to close the doors before supporters of other candidates supporters could get in. Pro-Clinton registrars tried to stop people from checking in if they were planning to caucus for another candidate. Others told Edwards supporters that they had to go home after the initial vote--without giving them the opportunity to switch to Obama.

January 27, 2008 9:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It is naive to think that anyone coming in that can actually get the job done is going to be squeaky clean. The bottom line is that this country was left with surplus and things were in order for the people when they left office dispite opposition from republicans. I counldnt care less if they make some deals for themselves as long as the people are taken care of.

January 27, 2008 9:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MSNBC's Joe Scarborough said of Sen. Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign: "They are at war against African-Americans and now they are at war against the Democratic Party." As evidence, Scarborough and Bloomberg News columnist Margaret Carlson falsely claimed that the Clinton campaign "sued the Democratic Party" about caucus sites in Nevada.

January 27, 2008 9:49 PM  

Anonymous zuma's press deputy said:

Where's ZD's $4900 to not blog about Shillary-Billary? (ZD's contract is like Van Halen's -- he gets at least tied for the top dollar paid (off), y'all!)

January 27, 2008 9:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

maybe the republicans should win so that they can try to clen up the shambles that bush has left behind. It is going to be hard for any democrat to fix it all without making some unpopular descisions. People will just not admit that they allowed the damage to be done.

January 27, 2008 9:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

isnt fox, msnbc cnn etc all owned by a republican?

January 27, 2008 9:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

colin powels son

January 27, 2008 9:58 PM  

Anonymous zuma's press deputy said:

And Zuma Dogg would like to add, that this whole shady Charter money funnel (into the non-profit, non-transparent, non-Form 700 filing hands of Ancronio's) is all headed up by The Bill Clinton Library. (Just ask Bill Gates, Eli Broad, The Waltons (of Wal-Mart, not the TV family), that rich dude Slim (from Mexico), and even my new role model Warren B-to the -uffet!)

If Shillary has one mission to accomplish -- besides spend more than the money than the machines can print -- is to get this Charter reform thing rolling. (And make sure everyone has their blinders on.) CHARTER REFORM...the #1 issue/money grab in the land.

MCCAIN FOR U.S. PRESIDENT: He's for Charters -- but in the spirir in which they are intended: Not in the shady-corrupt sense.

January 27, 2008 10:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

those stations are part of the brainwashing and sensored news that we have come to rely on. You have to go with some of the foreign stations or the internet to really know whats going on .

January 27, 2008 10:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

did anyone see mccains mother being interviewed? what a charecter she is.

January 27, 2008 10:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It really does not matter who the Democratic nominee is, any of the three will landslide over any of the GOP nominees. This may be the biggest
slam dunk election in US history.
It is payback time for 8 years of

January 27, 2008 10:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

As much as we dems have the upper hand in this election, anyone who thinks ANY democratic candidate is a slam dunk is in la la land.
I think many undecideds will have issues with both HC and BO. They need to appeal to the red states' undecideds.

January 27, 2008 11:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No Democrat will vote for a Republican over either Hillary or Barack, undecided or not.

Are you crazy??

Perhaps long, long ago McCain may have had a chance when he was talking about campaign finance reform, but when he screwed us all over on that issue and no Democrat will ever forget it.

January 28, 2008 2:21 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES and boy did Antonio look like an idiot while be interviewed via satellite last night by Geraldo. Antonio actually said the Clintons came to Los Angeles after the Northridge earthquakes and Latinos know their name. Big F---ing Deal. The fact that the Clintons have made the elections a "race" issue and have been so negative have even the most conservative voter supporting Obama. Now the Kennedys are coming out for Obama the Clintons are desperate. Look who they have running their campaign Ace Smith the notorious dirty, lying son of a bitch and MIke Truijillo another lying, corrupt, sneaky individual. Let's not forget Antonio who forgets about our city and has been "missing in action" for weeks.

January 28, 2008 6:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Here's the conspiracy theory website. Read about all the people who have died or been killed who knew the Clintons. Interesting Read


January 28, 2008 6:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

WACKO = Why Are Clinton's Killing Opponents.

January 28, 2008 8:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

'She is a mirror image of her husband. '

Hillary is worse...she is vindictive...vile...unethical......untruthful...has a very bad memory...rewrites history to what she remembers....is more a communist style socialist than Bill..stole the the china from the White House... and CANT FIND THE DOCUMENTS that the Judge said she must release in January...which SOMEONE MUST HAVE MISPLACED!

January 28, 2008 9:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't know who Bill H is, but the gig is up. Cut your losses and stick to your own blog. Trust us. You stepped in it this time.

January 28, 2008 5:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


You better talk to him!

January 28, 2008 7:55 PM  

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