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Tuesday, July 31, 2007

Chickens Should Not Blog

We've certainly had our run-ins with the Westside White Guy but we see that one of his lackeys apparently has issues with our blog (what a surprise) and more directly our friend Zuma Dogg.

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Now part of this is based on an email exchange and I wouldn't normally post what I get in email but this "blogger" didn't ask for confidentiality and is seemingly wanting to "pick a fight." As well WWG has never had an issue with not posting private details about our bloggers, so be it. By reading her sub-section of Anglo(LA)Observed I find that she seems to have a problem with just about everyone.

Blogger in question is one "Jenny Burman" of the "Chicken Corner" blog. Post in question is this one by Zuma. Now I am not going to take a position right now on the issue at hand (whether or not a school needs to be built in Eric Garcetti's council district - indeed Joe Mailander has an interesting take on it) but its interesting to see how quickly Jenny went loony toons on us.

Jenny wrote to me calling my piece "irresponsible." She apparently represents a demographic in the area that doesn't want a school (you know they're as bad as Home Depot). Immediately she accuses me of working for the LAUSD. When I kindly point out to Ms. Burman her issue is with Zuma Dogg and not me (and telling her Garcetti is not a saint) she writes back and tells me that she knows that Garcetti is not a saint, but she is "pretty sure that Zuma Dogg is a clown." Wow. How mature.

Now anyone who knows the real old, dead Republican Mayor that what you read on the blog and what you get in real life is not the same thing. As much as I hate to break the fourth wall here I think that even some of our most ardent opponents - who have been skewered publicly on the blog - have found in personal conversation I generally tend to be pretty gracious. Ask David Markland who Mayor Sam called an idiot but Michael Higby has high regard for.

Its sad to see that a blogger at the so called "blog of record" has to get personal in private. But so be it.

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36 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To call Zuma "a clown" is being very generous, and even your (formerly) regular readers know it by now. Have you seen how many are begging to have him removed from this blog -- permanently? And wondering why his OWN sites are getting no comments?
He's his own worst enemy: exposed and finished.

July 31, 2007 1:11 AM  

Blogger Video Louis Elovitz said:

not anonymous...

comment about Z Dogg, see preceding post about City Official giving our$$$ to his family...

That seems to be important to know about, and being excited to get the word out about this corruption is at least fresh.

I do not know Z Dogg but HE IS NECESSARY and welcome as far as
I'm concerned.

OH, it really IS A FREE COUNTRY
so why is the hate always 'anonymous'.

July 31, 2007 1:27 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

1:11am said..."Have you seen how many are begging to have him removed from this blog -- permanently? [Yeah, it's a big priority for most people besides you alone posting under a bunch of different names and different anoymous comments. You have fooled everyone and I have been exposed!] And wondering why his OWN sites are getting no comments?
[You already know, because I already replied to your previous comment about how my other blogs have no comments...it is on "moderate" and if someone posts a comment it emails it to me. They are blogs I use to post excess material that you don't want me posting here. The comments are for this blog. Do you really think it would be good to have a 100 comments scattered across 100 blogs -- or just have one place for all the comments. (Here on mayor sam?)

I think the fact that those other auxillary blogs don't have any comments, because i have them set on "email comments, but don't post." (I know, I know...why is zuma dogg censoring free speech...i told you dummy...do i really need to sit there and check 100 different blogs

You are such a crybaby...and everyone sees through you. I wish there was some way I could let you be me for a little, so you could get over it. It's like when I couldn't concentrate in elementary school until I met Gene Simmons of KISS...or Springsteen in High School. I mean, I know we've met; I just wish there was some way to alieviate your pain over me.

July 31, 2007 1:54 AM  

Anonymous joe aa. said:

Higby, he IS a clown and he does detract dramatically from your blog.

You really do need to give us a breqak from him or we will all leave you, or, at least I will, and I am close to it.

Remember, you have been told a number of times by a number of us that he is a distraction and an attention whore.

Read his stufdf on your blog and find out for yourself.

July 31, 2007 2:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I need some clarification, some anony-mouse person is asking for removing Zumma Dogg from this blog, but I thought Zumma is the creator and owner of this blog? Is this blog maintained by somebody else besides Zumma?

I also want the idiot with the constant gay comments banned forever, who wants to read that idiot’s comments. He must be drunk or pathetic or both.

July 31, 2007 2:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To: Dear sir worried about Zuma'sexual statis (UEGH, gross!!!):

I am neither of the above options, but I see that YOU are: therefore, pass all pro-idiot-anti-gay-bills vis-a-vis one Duma Dogg,indefinitely.

July 31, 2007 5:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I, likewise, do not know ZD, but anyone who gets this much squealing from the dark side because they continually expose and discomfit them is clearly a necessity and must be kept around! Feet to the fire, exposure ... Yes! Criminal indictments ... even better!!

July 31, 2007 7:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Joe AA is Jim Alger.

July 31, 2007 8:31 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Simple solutionto your wanting to get Zuman off this blog.

It you dont like Zuma,dont read the information he brings to fore.

If you are read this blog to learn something keep your mouth shut and listen.

July 31, 2007 8:35 AM  

Anonymous Phil Krakover said:

MS:

I like your posts and those of Mailander. But frankly, scrolling through ZD's is tedious and time consuming.

Can you relegate him to the bottom of the barrel? Or, require him to shorten his posts? Or, limit his responses to each and every person who posts a critical thought?

His content is virtually non-value and all the benefits that you and Joebring to the table are dissipated by his usally ranting and raving overlong posts.

My comments are not just mine, but are joined by many; just look at his posts (if you can stand it for long)and the comments.

Sincerely,

Phil Krakover

July 31, 2007 8:36 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

someone said..." Or, limit his responses to each and every person who posts a critical thought?"

You want me to do that? Currently, I do not post a response to each and every criticial post. And I do not feel like responding to each and every one. Plus, how about responding to neutral or positive thoughts?

Bro, no one is fooled by the same two people trying to tell mayor sam what he should think. Do you know how to run his blog better than HE does? Then why don't YOU two (and I say phil and joe aa are the same person, anyway...sam, run an ip check!) So why don't YOU start your own blog and you can run it however you'd like.

I have actually been limiting my threads on this blog, and posting things off-blog, but I realized from LAist and other blogs, that blogs are supposed to have stories updating all day. So i am going to start doing that here, too. With more frequent posts, but shorter with the "read more" up higher.

Meanwhile, maybe I'll start by posting all the comments from the person who is scaring us to death by threatening not to read the information on this blog anymore. (He's been making that threat for about a year now...however, is still the most frequent poster. (LOL!) I wish NC wouldn't have disqualified him and he could still feel like a big shot "Congressman!" Then maybe he would have a little less time to focus all this thoughts and energy to trying to tell his buddy how to run his blog. Don't worry, pal...I think mayor sam has done just fine without YOU!

July 31, 2007 9:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ZD often has many interesting things to say. The problem lately has been the extensive space used for non-issue advertising.

The blog really shouldn't be used for promotion.

July 31, 2007 10:29 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Mayor Sam, now he is posting anonymously...HE HAS SOME ADVICE FOR YOU BECAUSE HE HAS MADE THE DETERMINATION FOR HIMSELF.

"The problem lately [lately, you've been complaining about this since day one] has been the extensive space [has it been EXTENSIVE?] used for non-issue advertising. [it IS issue-based, in my opinion...read the blog executivestrategy.blogspot.com and see for your self...it's geared toward LA City Hall applications toward the goal of reducing waste and increasing efficiency, and speeches about the schools, and activism, and what I would like to see more from out of City Council, in a neutral-toned/safe, non-combative environment. It's not "ADVERTISING" any more than any other link that mayor sam and the rest of the blog world includes in threads.

NICE TRY LOSER!

So you are the one who makes all of these decisions for mayor sam...GOOD FOR YOU...

Maybe if you focused your thought patterns, time and energy toward the goal of making actual substinative comments regarding the city and community, the way ZD did, right here in the comment section when he first discovered mayor sam...maybe YOU will capture his attention (like red spot and antonio watch did, along with ZD), and he will allow you to become a contributor again.

The blog really shouldn't be used for promotion."

July 31, 2007 11:12 AM  

Anonymous not anonymous said:

Last I checked, this thread was a commentary on "Jenny Burman" on WWG, and not an anti Zuma Dog thread. I suggest to all and sundry that if you've nothing nice to say about Zuma in particular (or other people in general), then kindly imitate Martin Sheen, tape your mouths shut, and stop giving yourselves bad karma!

July 31, 2007 12:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jenny Burman was commenting on ZD, a exhibitionist provocateur who clearly relishes the attention of his many critics. His posts and comments are disruptive and narcissist. And given their length and frequency, they are also almost impossible to ignore. Perhaps this blog should emulate LAObserved and segregate its staple of contributors, so reading them would be an option, not an every day assault on our intelligence.

July 31, 2007 1:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jenny thinks gangs shouldn't be called gangs?

July 31, 2007 1:46 PM  

Anonymous Leo Durocher said:

Trow da bum out!

Nice guys don't win ball games, and he ain't even a nice guy.

Back to basics.

Play ball!

July 31, 2007 2:43 PM  

Anonymous Phil Krakover said:

My Mom always said "If you have nothing nice to say about someone, come sit here beside me..."

July 31, 2007 3:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:27 a m moron: Shocking as this will be to you, zuma idiot got that story FROM THE FRONT PAGES OF THE LA TIMES THIS WEEK, which if you weren't totally illiterate and clueless, you'd know that.

But of course, you ARE the kind of clueless idiot who must rely on Zuma recycling/ often misreading, stories from real reporters, and calling it "fresh," AFTER EVERYONE IN THE CITY HAS ALREADY READ AND DISCUSSED THEM TO DEATH.

July 31, 2007 4:39 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

4:39pm,

Hey SMART GUY! You claim, "often misreading, stories from real reporters, and calling it "fresh."

What have I misread. I know I didn't misread a $1.8 billion dollar budget number that ZD checked the math and caught.

What did I misread? Please repost! Where did I ever call a story I feature like this, "fresh".

And yes, you bet I waited until the dust settled to repost for everyone who missed it. You think everyone reads every story in the Times, everyday?

And it's not about COUNCIL being done talking about it...it's about having the PEOPLE know and talk about it. But you couldn't think of any of this which is why you are ineffective, because after all of this time, I am still here, and you are still complaining about it, loser!

July 31, 2007 4:47 PM  

Anonymous Phil Krakover said:

OK, sports fans, here's my suggestion:

I have been a constant critic of Zuma Dogg since I abhor his spelling, his grammar, but mostly his basic misunderstanding of the political process and how it all works.

I find it grating to read him and watch him commit the most elemental mistakes in understanding why things have to be handled in certain ways to achieve objectives.

But, I notice, in reading his readers' comments, that most are related, not to the subject matter, but to his stupidity or arrogance, or his personal self agrandisement.

So. let's cut it out and let him post stupidity without comment; in short, boycott the idiot until he gets tired of talking to himself.

If we can control ourselves, it will be more telling than anything we could say, to see his posts go uncommented upon.

So, I'm done commenting on his posts. I hope you'll join me in this experiment, which may illustrate to mayor Sam the futility of having a fool like this on his otherwise quite cogent, relevant blog.

July 31, 2007 4:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

DEAR MR "Phil Krakover said..."

Should you ever choose to visit this blog, please introduce yourself again so we All know who we are dealing with.

Have fun wherever you are going and I hope you can contribute more to that blog than this.

July 31, 2007 9:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Thank God Krackover is out of here. Hey Krackover! STFU! Good riddance too! Don't post your usual anonymous stuff either. Take Joeaa with you. I have trouble with typos ... but my meds help me get over it a-hole!

July 31, 2007 10:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is Zuma Dog a Clown? Ask over at the LA Weekly, where rumor is the legit journalists are mortified that they have ZD in the house. Clown might be too kind. He's not even a novelty anymore.

July 31, 2007 11:26 PM  

Blogger Jim Alger said:

ZD... Why is it that whenever I look on this blog you are always insinuating I am up to some wild anonymous campaign against you? I think you are a nitwit, but primarily because you honestly believe (or want others to believe) that I give a rats ass about your posts. The irony is the only time I have even logged on here has been to see what if any Home Depot news the blog is posting... given the City Council just 245'd an Area Planning Commissions ruling I figured it was news.

But alas, I was incorrect. Let me make something clear Bozo, if I have anything to say to you, AS ALWAYS, I put my name to it.

Truth is, until you drag me into your paranoia, I couldn't care less what you did or said. People are intelligent enough to see trough your act.

Now go dig under another rock already will ya? This "Alger is attacking me and I am so much better then him" routine got old months ago.

August 01, 2007 1:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That is easy Jim, he thinks he is relevant. Nice seeing you at City Hall yesterday. We missed you. Good luck at PLUM!

August 01, 2007 3:12 AM  

Anonymous me again said:

Oh, and ZD. You were fun for about a minute, then annoying and now pretty much a joke that only you can't see.

Your obsession with Alger is unhealthy. I know that one day you hope to be half the man he is but you should probably give that one up. While you have been talking about how great you are, he just led the community of Sunland Tujunnga to the 1st ever City Council assertion of jurisdictionn of a North Valley Planning Commission decision ever.

You can mock someone for being disqualified to be on a particular Neighborhood Council, but I notice you have never bothered to run. I certainly don't agree with him all the time but I respect him for at least standing up and trying.

Maybe if you put as much energy into doing something as you do talking about how fantastic you are you might actually do some good around here. In the meantime, how about you quit assailing someone who at least has the courage to try and make a difference?

August 01, 2007 3:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

what;s up with alger??? zd didn't say anything about him! anonymous @ 8:31 did!

August 01, 2007 3:03 PM  

Anonymous Antonio V de La said:

ZD posts under anonymous and other names to make it look like people care about his recycled old reporting.

Jim, this fool is not worth your bother.

I'm going to personally take this moron down next time I catch him at city hall bothering real people.

August 01, 2007 4:09 PM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

4:09pm,

COMPLETE 100% LIE!!! I ASSURE EVERYONE READING THAT I NEVER POST ANONYMOUSLY. Again, as you look back at all comments over the past year, if the comment is by "anonymous", then you can be sure it was NOT posted by me. In other words, I do not post under "anonymous". ABOSULTLEY NOT...So you are a paranoid liar, unfortunatley.

And regarding, "I'm going to personally take this moron down next time I catch him at city hall bothering real people." [First of all I'm glad you are the "decider". Secondly, I hope you are LAPD or City Hall Police. Otherwise...have fun watching, and try and pay attention to what I am saying! You will FOR SURE learn something. Because you know nothing. AND, YOU ARE A BOLD FACE LIAR...provide the polygraph test for me to pass. ANY TIME, ANY WHERE...And then we can ask you, "did you knowingly lie on this blog because you are simply so frustrated you are cursed with inferior logic skill?

August 01, 2007 4:47 PM  

Blogger Jim Alger said:

ZD, it is interesting that YOU can accuse ME of posting anonymously and you can call me a liar when I assure you I have not to the point where I just left the blog for months to help rid you of your delusions,

But we are to accept your word as gospel truth when you claim you haven't posted anonymously to drum up faux support for your supposed issues, which tend to be (as noted by others) nothing more then recycled City Council agendas.

Fact is that you ARE a liar ZD. Plain and simple.

Let's see, just off the top of my head you claimed you were going to run for City Council ... you couldn't even get the signatures to qualify for the ballot.

Your explanation? The community you didn't live in actually supported you but you were "too busy" to gather the signatures yourself. Unemployed and homeless but too busy?

Yet you have the gaul to attack others who actually ran?

Any village idiot can point at something and scream it is broken. It takes dedication and time to actually work with the community and assist in finding actual solutions.

You throw accusations around like their running out of style, bashing any elected official and activist you can to raise your public profile but have yet to actually accomplish a single thing. But god forbid someone sheds the light on your own antics. I have forgotten more about community solutions than you will ever know my friend.

And you wonder why you aren't taken seriously?

Jim Alger
PROUD "defeated crybaby loser"

August 01, 2007 8:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Kudos, Jim, well said!

If you and the others fed up stay off this blog, zuma will just attract the flies like himself who stick to the flypaper of his rants and vitriol.

August 02, 2007 1:13 AM  

Anonymous st resident said:

Damn Jim, someone spike your Wheaties? What the heck got you back in the fight all of a sudden? Not that ZD and Co didn't have that spanking coming for some time.

Now if you could just get Sam off of his pro Home Depot kick we'd be better off!

August 02, 2007 3:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"...o you are a paranoid liar, unfortunatley..."

Looks like Zuma Dog finally found a mirror... unfortunateLY he didn't also stumble upon a dictionary

August 02, 2007 5:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well said Jim! The Village Idiot doesn't realize that, sure people want change. But that is vague, and for fifteen minutes they will get behind any and every jackasses that runs around shouting 'Change'! So they jumped all over Ross Perot, once, and then they realized what a nut he is. As for Zuma Dogg, he cannot grasp that his fifteen minutes as novelty 'change-meister' are up. Eventually the will be another homeless asshole with bad attitude and grammer waiting in the wings.

August 02, 2007 12:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Latest village idiot to run around shouting Change! is none other than Zev, most hysterical hypocrite to burst out of his cage in some time. Even our resident village idiot ZD can see through that one. With the story today in LAT on BOS asleep at the switch re: MLK for years, maybe they and Zev will finally start to get the scrutiny they deserve.

Amazing how under the rader they've been, compared the the CM's/Mayor. Day will come when Zev rues that he posed as "the Big Change. His Rocky moments will come, and I don't mean Rocky Balboa.

August 02, 2007 2:06 PM  

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