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Wednesday, November 08, 2006

Final: Measure H Fails, Measure R Passes

Final: 62.29% of L.A.'s voters were duped into voting for Measure H, not quite enough to meet the two-thirds requirement.
Whew! That was close!

Measure R passed with 59% of the vote. It's up to the Court of Appeals to back up Judge O'Brien's decision.

Consider this your open thread.

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19 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, democracy is a bitch, ain't it Walter?

November 08, 2006 7:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

But the lawsuit was dropped. Are you going to file a new one?

November 08, 2006 7:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Must be very frustrating to always be a part of the BRILLIANT, losing minority.

November 08, 2006 9:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Quality Control?

When Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa cast his ballot early Tuesday, an electronic scanner spit it right back: "Ballot alert," declared the machine's printed message.

The mayor apparently had "overvoted" by punching too many bubbles on his ballot. He went back into the booth and filled out his choices again.

Full story at LA TIMES
A small blot on InkaVote's rollout
Only minor glitches are reported as L.A. County begins using optical scanners to check for ballot errors.
By Valerie Reitman and Amanda Covarrubias, Times Staff Writers
November 8, 2006

November 08, 2006 9:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Davie H... you're going to take Prop R to court right. Do us a favor and do it!!

November 08, 2006 10:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Measure H started ahead in the polls, they had $2.5 million, Parke Skelton, widespread endorsements and support and yet they lost. Why? The campaign was stupid. Rather than focusing resources in the mailbox to targeted swing voters, they wasted all of their money on tv with ads that looked like Century 21 commercials. Measure R, which started out behind in the polls, lambasted by the media and much less cash wins big. Why? Shallman focused on targeted mail knowing tv would get lost amidst the massive statewide props. The mail was funny, memorable (though a bit deceiving--what campaign isn't?). Case study in how to win with a dog. Councilmembers (and staff) who frankly didn't deserve the extra four years, owe Shallman a HUGE THANKS!

November 08, 2006 10:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What now, the "lightweight brigade" attempts (again) to circumvent the will of the people they claim to represent (because "WE" know better) - and takes it back to court??

http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/2006/09/marcos-craps-his-pants-alleged-sandy.html#c115896234106449632

"Forward, the Light Brigade!"
Was there a man dismay'd?
Not tho' the soldier knew

Someone had blunder'd. . . *

Check on that last part with the blundering, ousted ex-GM of DONE, who set y'all up for this "charge" -- the same way he set NC's up to fail in outreach and finances, year after year during his Hahn-mandated term with his own, personal agenda-riddled misinterpretations of the city charter!

November 08, 2006 10:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEMO TO THE "LA ANTONIA TIMES"

"JOURNALIST BAQUET" R.I.P.

What should of been a joyful day for the "FELLOW TRAVELING P.R. SCRIBES" at "THE OLD GREY HAG ON SPRING STREET", has been tempered by the "COMSUMPTION OF THE KOOL-AID" by "JOURNALIST BAQUET". Failing to rally "BIG TRIBUNE" to protecting jobs in the "PEOPLE'S NEWS ROOM", Dean Baquet has resign from the Times. "SCRIBEGASM" has been replace with tears on the day when Democrats reclaim the Congress. Dean Baquet will not be around to Implement his "MANHATTAN PROJECT" to reverse the hemorrage that is the falling circulation level. In a nutshell, "JOURNALIST BAQUET" and many of his peers at the TIMES are suffering from denial that the changing demographics and the elitist, P.R. journalism that has befallen over "THE OLD GREY HAG ON SPRING STREET, will cause people like myself to move to papers like the L.A. Weekly for stories of record.

November 08, 2006 10:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's state the facts. Here's the final numbers for Prop R. Now the Yes supporters had over $1 millon from speical interests and hey mailed out misleading info to voters, for that they got 100,000 extra votes. The No on Prop R had maybe $6,000 and they got 224,000 people to vote NO. That's a hell of a lot of people who don't want their clowncil members in office. Someone also mentioned that we as voters could place a ballot measure to decrease the salaries of these high paid morons. Let's do it.
MEASURE R Votes Percent
TERM LIMITS/ETHICS REFORM -
YES 324,793....59.14%
NO 224,358.....40.86%

November 08, 2006 2:22 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

Dear 7:10, 7:45 and 9:14:
Let me explain, because I don't think you get it. Measure H failed. It did not pass. It will not be law. My side won. That's good news for me -- and the whole city. Get it now? Apparently your fellow staffers didn't draw a diagram showing how 63% is lower than 2/3. Those darn fractions are hard, huh?

As for being in a minority of people who are right, hey, if Copernicus could live with it, who am I to insist on more? Many many people watched "American Idol." Does that mean I should watch it, too? I think not. But if being part of the majority is important to you, by all means, go for it.

November 08, 2006 2:46 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

P.S. to 9:14 re "frustrating to always be a part of the brilliant, losing minority"

Your comment got me thinking about other situations like that, and one that comes to mind is scoring high on tests, e.g., the SAT and the PSAT. After a while, you get used to there being large numbers of other people who just don't "get it." It's just the way of the world.

Oh, and yes, of course, I realize you're being sarcastic, in case you didn't catch that.

November 08, 2006 4:04 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

To 2:22: Great point.
I would love to see how these elections would go if those of us in the unfunded minority had the same funding as the special interests that back ballot measures and career politicians.

November 08, 2006 4:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You're just too smart for the room, Wacko. Feel free to leave for more brilliant surroundings anytime you like.

November 08, 2006 4:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Poor Antonio hasn't done a damn thing and no one seems to be listening to him anymore. LAUSD ignored his threats and hired Brewer who seems to be well liked by everyone. Antonio was on radio and tv ads for Prop H and it failed. Antonio started campaigning late for Angelides but it was over before it began. Now look what he's saying!!

Mayor Calls For City Dept. Heads To Cut Spending.....Faced with the potential loss of up to $250 million in revenues, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa wants city department heads to cut spending by 5 percent and find up to $20 million in savings for the next budget, it was reported Wednesday.

BUT WAIT THE CLOWNCIL passes this

$4M Budget OK'd For L.A. Tourism Office In Beijing...The Los Angeles City Council Wednesday approved a five-year, $4 million budget for a newly opened tourism office in Beijing.

November 08, 2006 4:17 PM  

Blogger Walter Moore said:

To 4:13 p.m.: Believe me, I'm working on it. The first scouting trip is in December. In the meantime, cheer up: maybe some of my astonshingly vast intellect will rub off on you.

November 08, 2006 5:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

parke skelton and his dumb fucken team of idiot eager beaver campaigners failed. yeah! that's the best news ever...given their fucken arrogance.

as for prop R...i hope the corrupt clowncil can live with their deceitful selves!

November 08, 2006 8:09 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"the same way he set NC's up to fail in outreach and finances, year after year during his Hahn-mandated term with his own, personal agenda-riddled misinterpretations of the city charter!"

November 08, 2006 10:36 AM

Ah, shades of that idiot Greg Nelson who woke Joel Wachs up one night 8 or 9 years ago, and said let's fix these nasty little constituents. We'll create neighborhood councils. We'll include everyone in this so that the illegals, the homeless, the out-of-town landlords, the out-of-area workers, and the kids can have there say over the voting and taxpaying residents.

Then, we won't give them instructions, a format or a plan. We'll let them think they have say so, but we'll make sure they are only advisory, and we'll let them fight it out with the city to see if they are city-controlled or independent.

We'll give them city money, conflict of interest forms, and the Brown Act. That ought to serve them right.

After a motion, an ordinance, and a charter Greg wrote a book called "The Grassroots Guide for Neighborhood Councils" in which he laid this folly all out.

He pouted like a baby when Rosalind Stewart knocked him out of the job as Manager of DONE, but it was way too difficult for her to figure out so she only lasted a year and Greg finally got his coveted job; just in time to make a whole lot of very, very bad decisions.

Now, Joel Wachs is long gone, Greg Nelson is done with DONE, and look at what they left - One helluva mess.

November 09, 2006 2:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:19am You sound like a very bitter person that doesn't have anything or anyone in their life. AT least Greg Nelson tried and did something and wasn't a crybaby like you. No one has the right to complain unless they were out there campaigning against something they believed in. 224,000 people is a major effot and thank goodness we have people like GREG who has many friends citywide who aren't complainers.

November 09, 2006 7:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walter,
I do not think the voters were duped. All term limits have gotten us is a game of musical chairs with our elected officials. Terms limits have not reduced the influence of lobbyists, it has increased it.

Politicians looking for their next position do the lobbyist's bidding for their continued support.

Occasionally, a politician is left without a chair but it is rare. Ultimately Measure R may prove to be a good thing.

November 10, 2006 2:17 PM  

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