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Tuesday, June 13, 2006

McIntyre Offers Reward

Doug McIntyre, host of TalkRadio 790 KABC’s McIntyre in the Morning show (M-F 5-9AM), announced that he is offering a $1000.00 reward to anyone with information that leads to the arrest and conviction of the person or persons who have made threats against La Academia Semillias del Pueblo, a LAUSD charter school in El Serano.

“To threaten anyone is a loathsome and criminal act; to threaten school children, teachers and a school facility is beneath contempt,” said McIntyre. “I hope the LAPD finds whomever has made these threats as quickly as possible, and I hope my offer of a thousand dollar reward will help lead to an arrest.”

McIntyre maintains he will continue to cover developments in the Academia Semillias del Pueblo story, but is repulsed that anyone would put children in harms way. McIntyre also said the threats flying in all directions cannot be used as an excuse to stop covering a legitimate news story. “Unfortunately, the nut fringe is active. We can’t allow criminals to dictate what news stories a free people in a free society can report on,” commented McIntyre.

Anyone with information about threats made to La Academia Semillias del Pueblo should contact the LAPD 24 hour TIP LINE at 877-LAWFUL (529-3855).

108 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So what's Aguilar's full name?

June 12, 2006 10:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alcalde Samuel:


Why don't the police trace the call?

June 12, 2006 10:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Would Aguilar gain sympathy if he made the call?

YES! Wants public feel sorry for him.

June 12, 2006 10:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Call FBI if u want a handle on situation.

June 12, 2006 10:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

La Voz de Aztlan

Los Angeles, Alta California

June 3, 2002



Gloria Molina

Supervisor, First District

County of Los Angeles



Dear Supervisor Molina:



I am in receipt of your letter dated May 31, 2002 in which you express concern that you are being viewed as an antisemite because of my appointment, in 1991, to the Real Estate Management Commission and because I now publish the online news and information service, "La Voz de Aztlan". You say several individuals confronted you because, supposedly, I have mention of this on our website. You have been thoroughly misinformed.



It was the tabloid "New Times of Los Angeles" that published an article on January of this year making such allegations. The writer was a "little judas" by the name of Tony Ortega. Soon after Tony's article was published, a cohort of Glenn Spencer of American Patrol, Hal Netkin published another article on his website accusing you of being antisemitic.This is where the rumors are originating from and not from La Voz de Aztlan. Hal Netkin's article is published on his website. For your information, Hal Netkin is a vile anti-Mexican Jew that has sworn to "kick your brown ass out of office".



The only reference we have on this entire matter is our Editor-in-Chief's response to the misinformation published by New Times of Los Angeles. We have published Ernesto Cienfuegos' response at http://www.aztlan.net/newtimes.htm



I know for a fact that you have been targeted by sinister forces in Los Angeles. Be careful, the entire political game has changed since 911.The near future holds extreme dangers for our community.



I want to thank you for my appointment. The timing was a little too early for me to be effective. If you should have need for additional information, please let me know.



Hasta La Victoria Siempre,



Hector Carreon

Publisher

La Voz de Aztlan http://www.aztlan.net

June 13, 2006 12:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

In two separate 2001 email letters, Hal Netkin asked both Antonio Villaraigosa and Gloria Molina to publicly repudiate Carreon, but both, who characterize themselves as champion anti-discrimination fighters, refused.



Now one of these birds of a feather is endorsing the other bird.



And you want him for mayor?

June 13, 2006 12:02 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Oh, I forgot to mention this, but if anybody tries to use the "Racist Card" on me, I married a Latino who was born and raised in the States and he also disapproves of what is going on.

As for this being a "conspiracy theory" dreamed up by White Supremists, Please look up:
La Voz de Aztlan, MEChA, A.N.S.W.E.R., LULAC, MAPA, La Raza & the Mexica Movement.

Also Nativo Lopez,Cienfuegos, Hector Carreon, Villaraigosa, Mel Martinez, Fabian Nunez, Art Torres.

These people aren't "White Supremists" by any stretch, but they can be every bit as racist.

June 13, 2006 12:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dear Mcintyre,

For starting this bullshit, you sure are a cheap bastard with an offer of $1,000.00

Pls continue to fan the flames and you are sure to get your just deserve. And we may just have to spin the bottle on you. But don't be scared, it is the price you pay for infamy as an ambulance chasing
shock jock or cock. Which is it anyway?

Love,

Los Illegales

June 13, 2006 12:04 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dear Mcintyre,

For starting this bullshit, you sure are a cheap bastard with an offer of $1,000.00

Pls continue to fan the flames and you are sure to get your just deserve. And we may just have to spin the bottle on you. But don't be scared, it is the price you pay for infamy as an ambulance chasing
shock jock or cock. Which is it anyway?

Love,

Los Illegales

June 13, 2006 12:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What a bush-league PR stunt. They are SO obviously feeling the heat over there at Mickey Mouse radio from having loosed the nut-fring unabombing racist wackos on a bum of single-digit-aged children (plus they can't take their mitts off the only story in town they have any claim to).

KABC -- Kooks and Bombers Club

June 13, 2006 12:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bilingual, blah, blah, blah...

Find me some useless out-dated quotes about quadra-lingual education, homie.

THEN we can talk.

June 13, 2006 12:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Doesn't it seem like "Borg" McIntyre would have started this a week or so ago offering a reward to the arrest and conviction of the guy who "attacked" theire reporter. . .

EXCEPT, the police know who that guy is (and never pressed charges), and he walked out free as a bird, and they're NO witnesses to the attack. In FACT there's less real evidence of that attack, than there is of the bomb threat (which is on tape).

So here's my conspiract theory: KABC radio ordered the Twin Towers attacks, so talk radio would have something to do for the first decade of this century.

After all -- there were NO talk radio hosts in the Towers on 9/11.

Coincidence?

I think not!

June 13, 2006 12:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Who's the leader of the nuts that threaten harmless kids. . ."

"D-O-U G-Mc-I N-T-Y-R-E"

June 13, 2006 12:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

KABC's just pissed that they have to wait a few weeks for this all to die down before they roll out that new marketing campaign taking off KFI:

"KABC - More Incendiary Talk Radio"

"You'll Get a Blast Off Our AM Programming"

AM 790 - "It's Da Bomb, Amigos"

Talk Fuse-ion

"Once you've blown of kids appendages, their hearts and minds will follow"

June 13, 2006 12:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"I just want to say, again, threatening to blow up kids is a horrible crime. . . lets take another caller -- this one is Theodore K., calling from Montana, and he says he has a brief manifesto to read. Go ahead, Ted. . ."

June 13, 2006 1:00 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:55

Doug?

Oh he's in the "powder room" -- no, I don't mean the bathroom!

June 13, 2006 2:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Marcos & Minnie Aguilar=Kooks and Bombers Club

June 13, 2006 6:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Marcos,
Blog while more important pressing matters are at hand. You may lose your school. Go to work porfavor!

June 13, 2006 6:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Marcos Aguilar #1
Hector Carreon has it right! Gringos can't deal with Truth!

June 13, 2006 6:59 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Doug wrote piece in "The L.A. Daily News."

100%/100% Good Job!

June 13, 2006 7:08 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You can't blame KABC for any of the bad press this racist school is getting. Blame Aguilar who has that radical Mecha mentality. Have you heard these idiots speak out? Its scary that they actually believe what they're saying. They think they're living in a communist country. They think they will save "our people." These are the people who do more harm to the minds of children.

June 13, 2006 7:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

All the posts made between 12:04 and 2:01 AM were made by the same person.

(The same Shakespeare-to-be who should have typed "just deserts" instead of "just deserve.")

June 13, 2006 7:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So, What's New 7:58 It's Marcos So What.

June 13, 2006 8:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

baca

So that means they're "wrong" because the same person posted them?

What's your point (assuming you're right??) -- several posts by one person are: 1) illegal; 2) immoral; 3) unethical; 4) in league with the devil; 5) an employee at the school; or 6) an insomniac with a greater sense of cultural tolerance than the rest of the bloggers combined?

Or is your point that someone who mistypes "just desserts" must be too ignorant to have a valid opinion.

BTW, you're not (right that is). I posted some, but not all of those in that time span. There were at least two, probably three posters from the looks of it.

Back to work, Clod-lumbo. Don't quit your day job waiting for LAPD to hire you as a detective.

June 13, 2006 9:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7:41

FUNNY, before the radio-harangue started, the school had nothing but GOOD press, especially local papers in the area.

In fact, the LOCAL press is still positive, even in light of the NON-LOCAL radio making a crusade out of this, (supposedly) because 3-5 cents of each of their disk-jerkies property taxes goes to fund a "separatist" school.

What hypocrites.

June 13, 2006 11:06 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FUNNY, before the radio-harangue started, the school had nothing but GOOD press, especially local papers in the area.

That's because no unlobotomized, non-PC news outlet had covered the school yet.

June 13, 2006 11:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good thing we have KABC, then... apparently the ONLY true source of news in this entire media-rich city of 4 million.

WHO would have thought - there they sit, smack dab between West Hollywood and Beverly Hills on-air staffed by Westsiders, Valleyites, and non L.A. resident - that they would be the ONLIEST ones be knowing SO much more about L.A. schools, and the Eastside, than anybody this side of Fairfax could possibly know.

"Great White Father" news radio to the rescue (whoops, make that "talk" radio, they don't even CLAIM to be about news), come to show the other half of the city the error of our ways.

DAMN, I feel so much better.

Bring some "blankets" whilest you be at it (wink, wink). It get's cold out there on the street on skidrow. Do check Mapquest before you head out, though, just to make sure you can even FIND "El Sureeeno" (there are no exits off any of the freeways from over there, leading directly to it).

June 13, 2006 12:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Eastern Group Publications, company that prints local paper in the Northeast area. Reports that since 2005, the school has been receiving threats. This had to do with the schools attempt to obtain land by Debs park to build a larger campus.

June 13, 2006 12:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yup, that time it was the rabid leftist tree-huggers, however, who couldn't spare two acres of empty lot on the end of a 200-acre wilderness for a school site.

Funny how racism creates such strange alliances. The near-ELF pinko liberals people handing the baton to McIntyre's out-of-touch, out-of-town, knuckle-dragging unabombers.

June 13, 2006 12:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anybody who blogged around here during the mayor's race knows that the die-hard Jim Hahn fans put WAY to much stock in the power of KABC to affect public opinion within the city of L.A. They kept posting about how Hahn being on McIntyre every 3-4 days, and Villaraigosa avoiding Doug and friends was going to turn that into a close race.

How did that work out talk-radio heads?

Other than John and KKK-en, there isn't anyone MORE out-of-touch with the political will and disposition of L.A. residents than the people at KABC. And the LAUSD board is even further LEFT of that stream.

McIntyre is on his way to making Aguilar a local educational hero --when 3 weeks ago, no one outside of El Sereno much knew his name.

June 13, 2006 12:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Next, they'll be franchising the school throughout the Southwest.

Good job, Dougie!

June 13, 2006 12:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Somebody needs to get their stories straight. For weeks now (including the rotating "sub" at KABC, just yesterday), rabid radio has been saying this school has been kept "a secret" because they obviously have "something to hide" and now the spin is that they've been covered by media a lot. . .

Just not the "right" (far-RIGHT?) media... right?

I take it something is a "secret" until it's beat up by radical right-wing media, blasting it into white-flight zones in the outer suburbs.

(Fact is, there isn't a school on the Eastside that's told its story and explained its educational philosophy to more people in the larger community than Semillas.)

It wasn't until they pissed off the liberal tree-huggers that anyone even bother tipping off radio hotheads.

SO, now the far left is using the far right in L.A. as it's trained attack dog, to save a couple hundred pounds of scrub brush at a local park. And they TOOK the bait.

Ain't that a pisser.

June 13, 2006 12:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don't forget that it's "just deserts" now.

June 13, 2006 1:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Aguilar a hero with pathetic school scores?

June 13, 2006 1:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Southwest, desert-like climates and terrain, "just deserts" - boy are you fucking humorless. . .

Chess club member, right?

June 13, 2006 1:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

AH, hell. . . why educate them anyway, if we're just going to ship them back to Mexico eventually.

Why not just re-open Manzanar and Tule Lake and stockpile them there, until we get this deportation thing worked out, right? (We can all split up their property and businesses, just like grandma and grandpa did in the "good old" days of WWII).

June 13, 2006 1:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Please do not repost the same comment in multiple threads. It reeks of onanism.

June 13, 2006 1:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Which moderator or list owner are you, 1:51?

It reeks of arrogance to set rules for someone else's blog... and less people will have to look THAT word up.

June 13, 2006 1:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:42

Please tell me that's sarcasm.

If not, I think we've found the KABC listener who called in the bomb threat at the school.

Track that back for your $1,000 reward, Mayor Sam. Maybe Doug will have his picture taken for you for the Disney shareholder's newsletter.

June 13, 2006 1:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Arrogant, and with lots of time to burn, apparently. We don't all have time to read every thread, 1:51. A little create reposting has always been on par for this blog, especially when multiple threads start dealing with similar subjects.

If you're so bored and lonely that you can read single post, all day, then learn to take it in stride.

"Onan" is the loneliest number.

June 13, 2006 2:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Or, "creative" reposting. . .

June 13, 2006 2:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Having a nice time stroking yourself?

June 13, 2006 2:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To 12:02 AM:

No matter WHAT Hal Netkin asked Antonio Villaraigosa, I would have said no. Hal Netkin is the dirtiest, grossest, most racist man I've ever met in my life. He wears the same yellow shirt and dirty filthy red baseball hat to every community meeting in the Valley. He lives to make Villaraigosa's life miserable. Villaraigosa shouldn't even have to say hello to him on the street.

But--he's married to a Mexican and he loves to say so.

June 13, 2006 2:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hairy palms beats dragging knuckles, anyday.

June 13, 2006 3:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Any bites on McIntyre's bogus $1,000 reward stunt?

Nope? Doesn't matter, it served the station's PR purposes.

June 13, 2006 5:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I didn't see Mecha offering $1 as a reward.

Did the mayor offer $20 bucks. NOT!

June 13, 2006 5:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Did Mecha RILE up the unruly on L.A. airwaves (or did McIntyre piss off BOTH sides on the issue).

All was quiet and peaceful, until Borg McIntyre needed a red meat/red state "issue" to jump- start his on-air ratings -- drooping big time since the last city elections.

NOPE, this one's ALL on KABC. They continue to coax the restless out of their redneck duck blinds every day with more goodies:

"...just dotting our (evil) eyes, and crossing our 'tease' for a few more days" - they sez).

Question is, are they ACTUALLY going to take the limousine liberal tree-huggers' bait thrown out by the likes of a quickly cut-off caller today, and make "precious parkland" the next conspiracy issue (hypocrisy-cubed for their pro-development followers), or have they just dug up some new MeCha-type charter school board member's doctoral dissertation from 1972 that says "America wasn't always 'nice' to us."

June 13, 2006 6:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What's the opposite of a redneck?
A wetback?

Just because someone doesn't agree with La Raza mentality doesn't make them a "redneck."
And don't be so quick to criticize those "liberals". Thanks to the liberals, wetbacks and mechistas are flourishing and will achieve the reconquista. It is foretold.

June 13, 2006 8:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The left always demands the firing of radio personality when they don't follow the politically correct line. MacIntyre has been on balance has been quite fair in raising a serious issue in the public debate - on what the public schools should teach.

Whether you like Doug or not, he is far more an open thinker than Bill Handel. Aguilar better pray Handel and gang not enter into the fray full time and mock Mechista sympathizers with no dialog at all. The thousand dollar reward he is offering is his own cash and not KABC's.

The one big difference between the USA and Mexico, is the USA encourages the free exchange of ideas, but in Mexico a foreigner like MacIntyre would be deported if not killed. A Mexican whether legal or not enjoys free speech here, he never see south of the border.

Marcos Aguilar has been AWOL from the debate in the English media. If he believes his academic philosophy is sound he should debate in a public forum and not hide behind the skirt of the new alleged principal, his wife.

If it is appropriate to challenge the academic integrity of Ward Churchill, a fake Indian, and debate whether he should be fired, why isn't fair for political activitist masquerading as a fake expert in public school educational such as Marcos Aguilar is not fair game.

Both Aguilar and Churchill's dubious academic credentials and political beliefs are controversal. Why is Aguilar getting such a free ride from the PC media?

The truth is Aguilar does want not Mexicans students to assimilate into American society, because if they did, he and his separatist cronies would not have much of a political power base. Power is the whole issue and not the children who are being harmed by this self destructive agenda at Aguilar's school.

June 13, 2006 9:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You must be from "the left" since your the first person to even suggest someone should be fired in the media.

June 14, 2006 2:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The phrase "fair game" begins with the word "fair".

No one at KABC has yet to even approach "fairness" in looking at Academia Semillas.

Why in almost two full weeks of coverage have they yet to bring anyone on who can intelligently, and without venom or agenda address what school performance ratings and figures actually mean, and how to use them.

The rant continues "failing school" and they haven't a CLUE how to actually interpret what school testing scores actually reveal -- continuing to willfully compare apples to orangutans.

The shock will eventually come to these "shock" jocks of local radio when LAUSD reviews this school using the appropriate standards when its charter is up for renewal, and determines that their performance overall is improving, taking ALL factors into account (size, makeup, growth, ratios of English learners, new-to-comtinuing student percentages, socio-economic factors, stated academic goals, scope of curriculum, parental and community involvement and support, and 15-20 other factors that "Borg" McIntyre his "resistance is futile" assimilationists haven't the slightest clues about).

Rating the complexity of school performance on API numbers alone over the first few years of a school's existence is like buying your "dream" car through the mail - based solely on its estimated MPGs (sight unseen).

KABC and its listeners are the blind leading the dumb blondes.

June 14, 2006 2:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Are you the person who copies and pastes the exact same comments under different topics?

June 14, 2006 8:58 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Are you the moron that asks questions in day-old threads that no one is reading anymore?

(Oops, I guess that makes two of us!)

June 14, 2006 10:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Are you Marcos Aguilar?

June 14, 2006 10:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Are you moron Minnie Ferguson
Wetback of the year

June 14, 2006 10:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

(Aside to any newbies here, lured by KABC's promotion of the site):

In the anonymous world of Blogger "hold-em" - resorting to trying to identify another anon is the "tell" that says, "I've lost! I have no logical response to your winning argument, and now I need to try and identify you" -- so I can make a personal attack or suggest some ulterior motive for your argument.

Know when to "fold-em" kiddies... know when to fold-em.

June 14, 2006 11:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Anyone hear Mayor Sam on McIntyre this morning. Anything worthy of note, other than it was brief?

June 14, 2006 12:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

It was good interview and focused on the evolution of the website and barely touched the controversy.

The definitive cogent remarks on the issue of Aguilar and his bogus charter school is to be had from the Hispanicpundit

http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/06/0
6/i-cant-stand-radical-chicanoism/

"So please, dear readers, know that most Mexican-Americans don’t believe in any of this crap, we are smart enough to see it for the bullshit that it is. These are only the views of a small fringe of radicals, people who took their Chicano Studies major much too seriously, and who are mad at the fact that a Chicano Studies degree (rightly!) gets you no more than a job at Mc Donalds flipping cheeseburgers. "

Perhaps LAUSD should cut out Aguilar, the middleman, and have McDonald's and Carl's Junior open charter schools in El Sereno and offer burger flipping and taco wrapping degrees to the students whose parents unfortunately have sent them to Aguilar's school of hate. At least the fast food schools would focus on courtesy and customer service and give these poor students a better chance in becoming productive citizens.

June 14, 2006 12:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If the self-appointed spokesperson at "hispanicpundit" for "most Mexican Americans" is correct (I'd like to see the meeting where the vote was take), then someone needs to explain to me why the locally elected leaders in the community where the school is have been supporting its existence since Day Uno.

The president of the LA32 neighborhood council representing the elected community represetatives for the 50,000 residents of El Sereno has been visiting other area NCs for months promoting Academia Semillas, based on his board's overwhelming support. Did they ALL miss the "Mexican American" caucus "hispanicpundit" held?

I know I personally speak for MOST "Caucasians" in L.A. when I say "what are all you people fussing about anyway, and who the hell is Dog McIntired?"

It's the TRAFFIC, stupid!

June 14, 2006 1:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Productive citizens" of what country? Your comrades in arms want to ship most of them "back to Mexico" after a bit of Americanization in local schools.

What's up with that contradiction??

June 14, 2006 1:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

According to this paper written in 2005 by Bush's top economist, immigrants from Mexico learn English much more slowly than immigrants from other countries.

Wouldn't this argue in favor of directing funds to those schools in largely Mexican immigrant neighborhoods which emphasize English rather than, say, Nahuatl?

June 14, 2006 1:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I also recently heard that, compared to U.S.-born people, immigrants have a significantly higher fraction of individuals with college degrees. But the immigrant group also has a far higher percentage of people who have only a middle school or lower level of education. I wonder how the immigrant group breaks down according to the high vs. low education level and country of origin.

June 14, 2006 1:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey, there was a study released just last week that said that the highest percentage of teen suicides is among Latinos, higher still among those "americanized".

Oh well, studies, surveys, statistics -- what are you gonna do? Believe them all, discount them all, or just quote the ones that support what you already believe?

We all know the answer to that.

June 14, 2006 2:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I suppose if the study you are referring to was well designed and well conducted, with the appropriate controls, its results should generally agree with other studies looking at the same issue with similar rigor.

June 14, 2006 3:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

STUDY SURVEYS TEEN DRUG-USE, SUICIDE HIGHEST AMONG HISPANICS

Substance Abuse Higher among Those More Attuned to American Culture

By Associated Press - June 9, 2006

ATLANTA - Hispanic high school students use drugs and attempt suicide at far higher rates than their white and black classmates, says a new federal survey that has the experts somewhat perplexed.

More than 11 percent of all Hispanic students - and 15 percent of Hispanic girls - said they had attempted suicide, according to the report issued Thursday by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The white and black rates were about 7.5 percent.

Hispanics also reported much higher rates of using cocaine, heroin, Ecstasy and methamphetamines, and their use of condoms was at lower rates than the other population groups.

"We really don't understand this phenomenon as well as we should," said Dr. Glenn Flores of the Medical College of Wisconsin, who spoke at a CDC news conference.

The CDC survey of nearly 14,000 U.S. high school students has been conducted every other year since 1991. Results reported Thursday were from last year's survey.

Questionnaires go to students in grades 9-12 in public and private high schools in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. Researchers got parental permission for each student who participated.

Adolescents cannot always be counted on to tell the truth about their sexual exploits, drug use or other risky behaviors. But officials took many steps to ensure accurate responses, said Howell Wechsler, the director of the CDC's Division of Adolescent and School Health.

Participation was confidential, kids were spaced apart when answering the questions, teachers did not hover, and the questionnaire was designed so everyone would finish at about the same time - no matter how risky or safe their behavior, Wechsler said.

"We have every confidence if there's any lying going on, it's extremely negligible," he said.

The report contained some good news. Only 10 percent of high school students said they never or rarely wore a seat belt while riding in a car, down from 18 percent in 2003.

But the percentage of students who said they had smoked in the last month rose slightly - 23 percent, up from about 22 percent in 2003. Also, there was no decline in the percentage of students who said they'd had sexual intercourse, which held steady at 47 percent, or in the percentage of sexually active students who said they'd used a condom, which was 63 percent.

However, it's the first time in 14 years that condom use among sexually active high school students has not risen, noted Martha Kempner, spokeswoman for the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States, a New York nonprofit group.

"It calls into question the federal government's investment in abstinence-only-until-marriage programs, many of which openly discourage condom use," she said.

Black students reported the most sexual activity, the most TV-watching and the highest use of video or computer games. White kids were the most frequent smokers and heavy drinkers, and were worst about eating enough fruits and vegetables.

But Hispanic students had other problems.

About 36 percent of Hispanics reported prolonged feelings of sadness or hopelessness, slightly higher than previous years.

In contrast, about 28.5 percent of black students reported such feelings in the 2005 survey, about the same as two previous surveys. And about 26 percent of white students reported such feelings, down slightly from 2003 and 2001.

In the category of drug use, one in eight Hispanic students said they had done cocaine, one in 10 had done Ecstasy, one in 11 methamphetamines, and 1 in 28 heroin.

Hispanics reported much higher rates of drug use in previous surveys, and that hasn't changed. The enduring disparity is concerning, said Flores, director of the Medical College of Wisconsin's Center for the Advancement of Underserved Children.

He noted that substance abuse is higher in Hispanic kids who are more at home with American culture.

"It's unclear why that is, but we need to understand that better, because then we can learn how we can protect all of our youth," he said.

June 14, 2006 7:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7:54
It's because if your Mexican father caught you using drugs, he would kick the shit out of you. He wouldn't be afraid of any "child abuse" laws.
Your acculturated teen will have learned that his father can't touch him and that there are no consequences, even at school. If he is caught at school, his parents would probably not even be notified and he would be placed in a "counseling" program. Even teens that are selling get away with it in LAUSD.

June 14, 2006 8:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Parents tell kids change is wrong.

School tell kids change is normal.

Mechista tells kids change is evil.

McIntyre tell kids you must change.

Aguilar tell kids don't accept change.

Minnie Ferguson tell kids where's the money?

Society tell kids change or else.

Family tell kids "You think your white?"

Kids tell kids "Don't go to class and go to Jaimes pad for a ..."

Jewish teachers from Valley tell latino kids they won't excell at their schools.

What do you expect from these kids if you are feeding this type of crap.

Shit doesn't work and things have to change.

Marcos's approach does not help only will worsen situation for kids.

June 14, 2006 9:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Lame defense agruments of El Sereno charter school poor performance

Lame Lie #1 Overwhelming Support by neighborhood council - election to these positions requires only 100 votes of residents including illegal aliens.

Lame Lie #2 - Standardized tests don't reflect school performance - typical excuse of teachers who can't teach.

Lame Lie #3 - Multilingual education is superior over English - The truth is that full English immersion as opposed to slow transition to English has proven more successful.

Lame Lie #4 Nahuatl is the language common to Mexican Indians - maybe if your from the north but not from southern Mexico. Google supports Klingon as search language but not the mystical dialect of the village idiot Marcos Aguilar

June 14, 2006 11:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Lame Lie #1-HAS NEIGHBOR HOOD COUNCIL PUBLICLY PROVIDED SUPPORT?

HAS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PUBLICLY PROVIDED SUPPORT?

HAVE LOCAL LAUSD EMPLOYEES PUBLICLY PROVIDED SUPPORT?

HAS THE COUNCIL DUDE HUIZAR PUBLICLY PROVIDED SUPPORT?

HAS DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION PUBLICLY PROVIDED SUPPORT?

Lame Lie #2-EXCUSES EXCUSES BY AGUILAR

AGUILAR SUPPORTERS
AGUILAR
MINNIE
STAFF
SEMILLIES STUDENTS AND PARENTS
EL SERENO MECHA

June 15, 2006 12:00 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There is no doubt that ritual cannibalism took place in Central Mexico. The extent of this sacrifice and the proportion of the population eaten is more debatable. It has been argued above that both factors are lower than the 250,000 for Mexico and 15,000 for Tenochtitlan accepted by Harner, because sacrifices to Tlaloc were not usually eaten and because several Aztec "months" were free of sacrifices

June 15, 2006 12:04 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Indigenous resurgence: Mexico
The Maya Indian rebels of the Zapatista National Liberation Army (EZLN) in Mexico's southern state of Chiapas won international attention with their New Year's 1994 uprising - launched at the precise moment NAFTA took effect. The ski-masked Indian men and women with their antiquated rifles briefly took over four towns in the Chiapas highlands, declared war on the Mexican government and denounced the free trade agreement as a "death sentence" for Mexico's Indian peoples. Audaciously, they pledged to march on Mexico City. Seven years later they fulfilled this pledge - but they arrived in the national capital through political rather than military means.
Resistance has also spread to neighboring states. Guerrero and Oaxaca have also seen a wave of indigenous land seizures and municipal uprisings, with Mixtec Zapotec and Amuzgo militants seizing official buildings and declaring government by traditional Indian councils under the system known as usos y costumbres. On June 28, 1995, a truckload of Nahuatl militants from the Campesino Organization of the Sierra del Sur (OCSS) were stopped by state police, some 300 thick, on a Guerrero mountain road at a place called Aguas Blancas. The police opened fire, leaving 17 dead.


http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1052748795

June 15, 2006 12:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Boo Hoo #1

That's 100 more votes than your sorry ass gets to spout your single-sources opinions.

Boo Hoo #2

You didn't refute the "lie" - just blamed someone new. I won't bother replying to a "non" rebuttal.

Boo Hoo #3

Where did that come from... not even a part of this discussion (try to keep up, "regular" LAUSD school grad.

Boo Hoo #4

Nearly 2 million people in Mexico speak some form of that language = to half the population of this city. Look it up, multiple sources report this. But since it's one of only four languages the students there are being taught all or part of (including Mandarin Chinese, spoken by more people than all Euro-centric languages combined), you're obviously trying to divert attention from the bigger picture.

If you took away the Aztec trappings from this school, the paranoid among you would still grasp at new things to fear and hate about it.

KABC had it's "non-diverse" and "racist" argument shot down Day 1, but they forged ahead. The "poor performance" is also a house of cards, as laid out in expert detail by several people here, but they forge ahead. The "schools should train to be Americans" rant contradicts itself, when many of the same screamers want to deport much of the school's population.

Now it's` becoming a personal hate mission against the founders.

Radio will continue to unleash it's rabid dogs until someone innocent is harmed. Gain some self-control and a backbone and listen to some soothing music instead. Your internal "beasts" will thank you later.

June 15, 2006 12:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Interview to Sub-comandante Marcos.

Aguascalientes, Chiapas, Mexico, 9 August 1994

by C. Albertani

What will the EZLN do if the country's other armed groups do not accept the Convention's guidelines?

The EZLN will use its ascendancy to explain to them what has happened here. The armies defining themselves as revolutionaries cannot rise against the people's will. And the people wants peace. We believe these groups are mature enough to understand that.

The example of the EZLN will spread to the other Latin American countries?

We are not interested in resurrecting extinct guerrilla warfare. We are interested in renewing the struggle for dignity. The great lies of the new international order, neo-free trade or social liberalism do not sell any more. Here in the mountains of southeastern Mexico a crevice opened and others are opening in the rest of the continent. The story is not over: it is at the beginning. And it is not favoring the powerful, but those that, till now, have not had yet the possibility to say: we have won.

June 15, 2006 12:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Por lo tanto, en cumplimiento con el espíritu de esta TERCERA DECLARACIÓN DE LA SELVA LACANDONA, declaramos que:


Primero. Se le retira al gobierno federal la custodia de la Patria.

La Bandera de México, la ley suprema de la Nación, el Himno Mexicano y el Escudo Nacional estarán ahora bajo el cuidado de las fuerzas de la resistencia hasta que la legalidad, la legitimidad y la soberanía sean restauradas en todo el territorio nacional.

Segundo. Se declara válida la Constitución Política de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos original, expedida el 5 de febrero de 1917, incorporando a ella Las Leyes Revolucionarias de 1993 y los Estatutos de Autonomía incluyente para las regiones indígenas, y se decreta el apego a ella hasta que se instaure el nuevo constituyente y se expida una nueva carta magna.

June 15, 2006 12:22 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tercero. Se llama a la lucha por el reconocimiento como «gobierno de transición a la democracia» al que se doten por sí mismas las distintas comunidades, organizaciones sociales y políticas, manteniendo el pacto federal acordado en la constitución de 1917, y se incluyan, sin importar credo religioso, clase social, ideología política, raza o sexo, en el Movimiento para la Liberación Nacional.

El EZLN apoyará a la población civil en la tarea de restaurar la legalidad, el orden, la legitimidad y la soberanía nacionales, y en la lucha por la formación e instauración de un gobierno nacional de transición a la democracia con las siguientes características:

Que liquide al sistema de partido de Estado y separe realmente al gobierno del PRI.

Que reforme la ley electoral en términos que garanticen: limpieza, credibilidad, equidad, participación ciudadana no partidaria y no gubernamental, reconocimiento de todas las fuerzas políticas nacionales, regionales o locales, y que convoque a nuevas elecciones generales en la federación.

Que convoque a un constituyente para la creación de una nueva constitución.

Que reconozca las particularidades de los grupos indígenas, reconozca su derecho a la autonomía incluyente y su ciudadanía.

Que vuelva a orientar el programa económico nacional, hacendo a un lado el disimulo y la mentira, y favoreciendo a los sectores más desposeídos del país, los obreros y campesinos, que son los principales productores de la riqueza que otros se apropian.

June 15, 2006 12:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

HERMANOS:

La paz vendrá de la mano de la democracia, la libertad y la justicia para todos los mexicanos. No puede nuestro paso encontrar la paz justa que nuestros muertos reclaman si es a costa de nuestra dignidad mexicana. La tierra no tiene reposo y camina en nuestros corazones. La burla a nuestros muertos pide luchar para lavar su pena. Resistiremos. El oprobio y la soberbia serán derrotados.

Como con Benito Juárez frente a la intervención francesa, la Patria marcha ahora de lado de las fuerzas patriotas, contra las fuerzas antidemocráticas y autoritarias. Hoy decimos:

¡La Patria vive! ¡Y es nuestra!
¡Democracia!
¡Libertad!
¡Justicia!

Desde las montañas del Sureste Mexicano
CCRI-CG del México, 1º Enero de 1995

June 15, 2006 12:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Guadalupe Luna Vázquez, 13, is a Maya Indian, living in the state of Chiapas in the very small village of Acteal.Acteal has drawn worldwide attention due to an outburstof violence that took the lives of 45 villagers in 1997.Chiapas was never a stranger to violence. Mexican authorities have long neglected its Indian majority, which has lagged behind in the country’s recent prosperity. Chiapas holds last place amongMexican states in health care, education, sanitation and foodproduction. Many accuse the government of bias against theIndians.In 1994 Chiapas and the social situation of the Maya Indians came to the forefront with the revolution of the Zapatista rebels,led by Sub-comandante Marcos. On January 1st of that year, incoordinated attacks, the guerillas took over and held numeroustownships. Soon after, government soldiers forced them into hidingplaces deep in the forests. Since then the Mexican army has

June 15, 2006 12:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This posting has been forwarded to you as a service of
Accion Zapatista de Austin.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:30:00 -0800
From: Peter Rashkin prashkin@wavenet.com
Reply-To: chiapas-l@profmexis.sar.net
To: president@whitehouse.gov, Chiapas-l@profmexis.sar.net
Subject: H U M A N I T Y (Report #7)--Part 4 of 5


VI. MESSAGE FROM THE CCRI: SUB COMANDANTE MARCOS
La Jornada, February 17th, 1997

The Government does not care about coming to a solution on indigenous
issues- Marcos

Zapatista Army of National Liberation
Mexico-February 14th, 1997

To the National and International Civil Society-

"I scatter flowers of war,
I, of the smiling face,
with which I greet the war.
I am a quetzal bird and I arrive flying
among the difficult steps which come with the war.
I am a precious dappled bird of red collar,
I arrive flying; I come to be converted into a flower,
I arrive in the bloody rabbit".
NAHUATL POEM

June 15, 2006 12:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zapatista Other Campaign Spreads to Los Angeles
Wednesday, May 24, 2006
Two weeks ago they came for Atenco, Now they come for the South Central Farm (Los Angeles)

May 23, 2006
Los Angeles, California
United States

We, members of the Autonomous People’s Collective (APC) and the Eastside Café (ESC), as subscribers to the Sixth Declaration of the Lacandon Jungle and the "Other Campaign" denounce the imminent eviction of over 300 families who currently work the 14 acres of land considered the largest urban farm in the U.S., located in South Central Los Angeles, California. We also denounce the lies of the Los Angeles Mayor, who during his campaign promised to help the urban farmers retain 14 years of hard work, a medicinal treasure, a biospheric haven also known as the Lung of South Central. We denounce the constant disrespect of the L.A.City Council, particularly Jan Perry, who has from the very start attempted to sabotage and evict the farmers. Last but not least, we denounce the ongoing harassment by the Police Department aimed at terrorizing the farmers and making them quit the 14 acres they have cultivated for over 12 years, known to all as the South Central Farm (SCF).
An infamous Chase Bank memo, dated January 13, 1995, warned Mexican officials that "the government will need to eliminate the Zapatistas to demonstrate their effective control of the national territory and security policy."(http://site.www.umb.edu/faculty/salzman_g/Strate/Othr/1998-10-10Garrucha.htm). Thus, it is clear to see whose “law and order” is maintained by this low intensity warfare waged on the true owners of the land. In full agreement with La Sexta and La Otra we believe that when Emiliano Zapata verbalized his deep conviction of “la tierra es de quien la trabaja,” he wasn’t just talking about Mexico

Lastly, we denounce, the Mayor of Los Angeles, Antonio Villaraigosa who poses as a progressive. Villaraigosa and the rest of those in the City Council who swear they are progressive are not. They have all shown us that our system’s electoral process does not produce change. They have all shown us the degree to which this system is corrupt and with great ease they have lied to the people, particularly the poor. Antonio has shown us that there is no more listening to the people, that is—no more democracy.

As subscribers of La Sexta Declaración de la Selva Lacandona and as members of La Otra Campaña we understand and believe that it is through a broad and diverse movement of people at the bottom--utilizing civil and rebellious peaceful means-- that a new system is possible --even in the belly of the beast.

June 15, 2006 12:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Walking Together:
Chican@ Artists and the Zapatistas

The Story of the Encuentro Chican@-Zapatista

by Roberto Flores
El Sereno, California

The following article is taken from "The Role of Network Informal Learning in the Creation of Another World: Chican@s and Zapatistas Walk Together Doing, Reflecting, Learning” -- a research proposal

http://www.inmotionmagazine.com/auto/caz_walking.html

June 15, 2006 12:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Fourth World War

Subcomandante Marcos
La Realidad, Chiapas, Mexico

Translated by irlandesa

The following text is an excerpt from a talk given by Subcomandante Insurgente Marcos to the International Civil Commission of Human Rights Observation in La Realidad, Chiapas on November 20, 1999. The outline for the talk was published in Letters 5.1 and 5.2 in November of the same year, with the titles "Chiapas: the War: 1, Between the Satellite and the Microscope, the Other's Gaze," and 2, "The Machinery of Ethnocide." Any similarity to the conditions of the current war is purely coincidental. Published in Spanish in La Jornada, Tuesday, October 23, 2001.

http://www.inmotionmagazine.com/auto/fourth.html

June 15, 2006 12:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Zapatista Sixth Declaration of the Lacandon Jungle: A Call to Globalize a Grassroots Global Agenda for Justice
Robert Flores, educator & writer (Eastside Café, El Sereno), Los Angeles, CA

June 15, 2006 12:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

From Disillusionment and Abandonment
to Autonomy:
Zapatista Bilingual Indigenous Education
in Chiapas, Mexico

A Case Study in Alternative Meanings of “Development”
(Preliminary Finds and Discussion)

by Roberto Flores
Los Angeles, California

http://www.inmotionmagazine.com/auto/zbie1.html

June 15, 2006 12:38 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

LA32 neighborhood Council and its subcommittees have held NO LESS than 8-10 PUBLIC meetings in the past two years where its elected board members voiced support for and promoted Academia Semillas.

For the past six months, assisting Academia Semillas in finding property to build a new, LARGER school to house 500 students has been about the ONLY agenda item on LA32's "social justice" committee and it has been supported in motions before the full board:

Just a few of many:


LA-32 NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL
GENERAL BOARD MEETING
Wednesday, January 11, 2006 – 6:00PM
9. Committee Reports
Ad-Hoc
(a) Action Item: Motion to support Semillas Del Pueblo Native Ways Learning Center Project

------

Friday, January 6, 2006 – 6:00PM
Hecho en Mexico Restaurant

AGENDA-SOCIAL JUSTICE COMMITTEE

5. Committee Discussion on Semillas Del Pueblo’s Native Ways Learning Center Project

--------

SOCIAL JUSTICE COMMITTEE

jesse granados
Chairperson

Tuesday, January 10, 2006 – 6:15PM
Hecho en Mexico Restaurant

5. Committee Discussion on Semillas Del Pueblo’s Native Ways Learning Center Project

=======

These are not lies. Repeating the same claim over and over that they are is simply political autism.

LA32 NC is the ONLY official L.A. City recognized advisory board for the 50,000 people living in the area around the charter school. All others are not-so-great "pretenders"

Rock and roll!

June 15, 2006 12:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Calendars Show Frequent Private Meetings with Reps"

Los Angeles Daily News - Published on: 1/8/2006

...

Former Councilperson Richard Alatorre, who attends some council and committee meetings and is sometimes seen talking to current members in the council chamber, is not registered as a lobbyist. Alatorre met with Councilperson Ed Reyes and Marco Aguilar, the co-founder of Academia Semillas Charter School on October 27, after the school retained Alatorre to help it pursue a joint-use project with the city. Reyes said he did not consider that Alatorre was lobbying.

"I don't believe he was lobbying. I believe he was shedding light on the nature of the school," said Reyes. "He wasn't telling me to do X, Y, Z; he was describing the nature of the school. For me, lobbying is pushing a position. I believe that’s what lobbyists get paid for."

June 15, 2006 1:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nick Pacheco For City Council - 2005

...

El Sereno + Hillside Village + University Hills

Constituent Services


* Established a location for the first Charter School-Academia Semillas


===========

June 15, 2006 1:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So, basically, all four of the past and present councilmembers in or out of office, for CD14 have worked with Academia Semillas in some way. Alattore, Pacheco, Villaraigosa, and now Huizar.

Doesn't sound much like (what is it "Borg" MacIntyre calls it?) a "rogue" charter school hiding out.

June 15, 2006 2:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

WHY DON'T THE POLICITICIANS PUBLICLY ENDORSE OR SUPPORT ACADEMIA?

June 15, 2006 8:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How many from council neighborhood board in Sereno support Academia?

Who are supporters from board, are elected members Aguilar associates?

June 15, 2006 8:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Zapatista National Liberation Army staged a brief uprising in 1994 in the southern Chiapas state in the name of greater rights for indigenous people. Peace talks have been at a stalemate since a partial accord was signed in 1996, and the Zapatistas accuse the Mexican government of failing to implement the accord's provisions. Many participants in the referendum criticized the government for not doing enough to resolve the conflict.

Meanwhile, the Mexican government has responded with its own press campaign in which President Ernesto Zedillo is blaming the Zapatistas for holding up the peace talks.

Guests:

Marcos Aguilar, volunteer organizer for the National Commission for Democracy in Mexico.
Mariana Mora, from the group "Kinal Antzepik," which in the Mayan language means "Land of Women." She is part of the Chiapas State Coordinating Committee for the consult. Speaking from San Cristobal de las Casas in Chiapas.
Related link:
Pacifica Network News - 3/19/99 - Zapatistas Move Across Mexico
To purchase an audio or video copy of this entire program, click here for our new online ordering or call 1 (888) 999-3877.

June 15, 2006 8:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

On its website, the school describes itself as being "dedicated to providing urban children of immigrant native families an excellent education founded upon their own language, cultural values and global realities."

Read an interview with Aguilar here. MSM coverage of the alleged assault of reporter Sandy Wells at the school's campus here and there.

Visionary or Whackjob? You make the call.

June 15, 2006 8:37 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Comandante Marcos Aguilar oneonone interview with O'reillllly today.

June 15, 2006 8:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well, he's making good money exporting the revolution. So I would say that he is not a "whack job".

He chooses to live in Alhambra (and not El Sereno)- definitely not a whack job.

He has his wife in management- absolutely not a whack job.

Connected to Alatorre's Mafia- better not be a whack job.

June 15, 2006 10:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alatorre's Mafia? No comprende ur post.

June 15, 2006 10:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1. whack job 1 up, 10 down

With a "job", there is always someone else involved or else payment would not really be payment, would it? Similarly, the suffix-like term "job" added to anything implies that someone else is involved, eg. head job, rim job, hand job (No, not JUST because one can not reach on their own). Masturbating ones self should not be referred to as a whack JOB.

June 15, 2006 10:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

. whack job 1 thumb up

A complete loon-ball. A crazy person. Nut-Job.

He's nuts. A complete and total whack job.

June 15, 2006 10:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Father Vignali’s friends in politics — who wrote letters on Carlos Vignali’s behalf — have backed away from him. Pardongate, it seems, left too much of a stigma for its survivors to handle. After all, Congressman Xavier Becerra still holds office. So does Supervisor Gloria Molina. Former Councilman Richard Alatorre, a recovering cocaine addict once banished from City Hall by a graft conviction, has been reborn as a consultant. Former Councilman Mike Hernandez, who also admitted to abusing coke, found new life as a deputy to council members Bernard Parks and Jan Perry. Former state Senator Richard Polanco retired from politics amid scandal talk but as a consultant can be expected to exert influence at City Hall. Mayoral candidate Bob Hertzberg could play a role in Villaraigosa’s administration. Cardinal Roger Mahony is still cardinal. And while former U.S. Attorney Alejandro Mayorkas resigned in shame after lobbying for the younger Vignali’s release from prison, Sheriff Baca is up for re-election next year. With too much to lose, current and former officials avoid questions and act as if the Vignalis are irrelevant.

The two Minnesota officers at the center of the Vignali case remain bewildered by the media’s portrayal of the father as a lovable advocate for his son’s freedom. Only after Pardongate was over did the White House “inadvertently” produce DEA documents that revealed startling allegations about Horacio Vignali. The allegations flashed on the L.A. Times’ front page for a day but never gained traction. Adams and Wehr still have trouble swallowing the image of Vignalis’ money and charm being enough to move elected officials, including the county’s top law enforcer and the region’s top federal prosecutor, to extraordinary and inappropriate lengths. Their police sense is offended.

June 15, 2006 10:52 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A 1998 DEA report states that the elder Vignali was believed to be a financial partner in the Torres organization, allegedly setting up meetings between Torres and “individuals with extensive criminal backgrounds.” They were moving 100 kilos per month, the report states. In 1996, the report states, Torres’ grocery stores had sales of $50 million. Investigators believed he was laundering drug money through his stores and real estate transactions. Public records show Torres and Vignali engaged in numerous multimillion-dollar property transactions, either as partners or on opposite sides of a deal. While the elder Vignali was known as the well-heeled businessman who rubbed elbows with politicians, Torres was described in DEA reports as a tattooed heavy who flaunted Mafia connections and liked to intimidate his adversaries.

June 15, 2006 10:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Even back then, it was a politcally incorrect abomination to refer to such a thing as a "Mexican Mafia". The Richard Alatorre's of the world (Councilman Alatorre for the uninformed) would have a field day with such fodder. Not to mention that Alatorre himself was a regular cocaine consumer (meaning he ONLY obtained the drug from his EME buddies for his personal use).

But Ellie's body, found in a ditch off a back road leading to the Sacramento Airport led to a series of arrests which led to more arrests which exposed the EME once and for all. After that, the term EME became a household word that everyone understood and no longer this "myth".

The acceleration, and success, of prison gang prosecutions - especially versus EME, NF, and AB - is now a RICO specialty item as the FBI (the new titular head of modern-day "task forces") and the locals utilize this statute effectively against these gangs.

Not enough credit is given to the LOCAL agencies whose personnel are the REAL experts in knowing the history and daily routines of these bad actors.

When the "credit" is doled out at orchestrated press conferences we do not see the unsung heroes - the undercover agents who spend countless hours maintaining vigilant watches in our communities and working tirelessly on extracting the cancerous element that infects our society.

I'll drink to them (Corona with a twist of lime).

June 15, 2006 10:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hispanic Leaders Brag About
Anti-White Hate, Racism


http://media.putfile.com/Aztlan-23
READ THE COMPLETE STORY…

http://www.rense.com/general70/ana.htm

Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. Through love of having children, we are going to take over." -- Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets

"They're afraid we're going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They're right. We will take them over. We are here to stay." -- Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Councilman

"We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are «bleep» in their pants with fear. I love it!" -- Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas

June 15, 2006 10:56 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Our take: It never ceases to amaze us how many people come to America, ostensibly to create a better life for themselves from all the opportunities available here, then try to remake our country through cultural struggle, political resistence and educational reform into an idealized image of what they left behind. Too many illegal immigrants are here not merely share in the "American dream" and to assimilate, but to take advantage of our patience and generosity to recast America into their own flawed vision based on a witch's brew of ancient myth, race, socialism and a preference for portraying themselves as victims.]

http://www.forthecause.us/index.shtml

June 15, 2006 11:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Now you know why Villaraigosa wants to take over the LAUSD... he is a closet MEChE

June 15, 2006 11:10 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:03 a.m.

I happen to know this part of that diatribe is plagiarized:

"It never ceases to amaze us how many people come to America, ostensibly to create a better life for themselves from all the opportunities available here, then try to remake our country through cultural struggle, political resistence and educational reform into an idealized image of what they left behind."

It was first uttered by Native Americans, about our founding fathers.

June 15, 2006 2:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

WOW, long time since a single thread here has gone up over 100. . . looks like Mayor Sam's has another CD14-related intramural tussle on its hands, a year later.

And I'm SO glad, it could all be brought round to Vignali again - the "smoking gun" that's supposed to eventually destroy Villaraigosa (but only shoots blanks).

Or backfires and wounds the shooter, right Jim H.?

June 15, 2006 2:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Vignali, is it a drink?

June 15, 2006 2:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Commandante Aguilar in sick bay! No show!
PR firm diagnosis of foot in mouth disease.
Could be fatal in the presence of O'Reilly.
Spin specialist to manage treatment.

June 15, 2006 9:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What happeno to de guyo?

Was O'Reilly sad?

June 15, 2006 10:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Fired.

June 16, 2006 4:19 PM  

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