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Wednesday, October 26, 2005

CD 14 Meat for Wednesday

Team Pacheco has upgraded their website. Bunch of new features and slicker design.

Huizar blasts more spam. Entire text on MS2. He also appears to be ducking controversial votes...

Crystal Arceo jumps in the mix as well with a newly discovered website.

Most of the comments lately are all about polls, yet neither camps wants to pump out anything official. We'll wait to wade into that swamp once on of the camps does. Martini Republic notes that the unvaunted "undecided" is actually winning the battle of wannabes...

Or of course, you can continue the war here in a fresh thread...

51 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jose is ducking the question on charging a trash fee, why?

How come Antonio could find $50 million for the homeless and not more cops? He promised more cops.

The LA reporters should investigate why all the contractors of the bond issues to build more schools are going to Roy Romer relatives.

October 26, 2005 7:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No, what they should really look at is the law firms that were recently selected to do business with the District and compare that to Huizar's contribution list.

October 26, 2005 8:10 AM  

Blogger Athena said:

Take it from me, I know. These are the numbers from Huizar's track (400 sample, 10-20 through 10/23)

Huizar: 36; Pacheco 24; the others: 10, Und 30.

Head to head: Huizar 45; PAcheco 32.

And just FYI, Villaraigosa favorability: Very Favorable 55, Somewhat favorable 27; somewhat unfavorable 5, Very unfavorable 6. Hmmm, that's 82 to 11 favorable.

No one disputes that Huizar started this race behind, even substantially behind, Pacheco. But Huizar has caught and passed Nick.

October 26, 2005 9:30 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

listen athena:

first, you know shit.
second, this race has always been huizar to lose.
third, money, endorement, and mayor support equal victory?

October 26, 2005 9:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Athena?

Welcome back, Mrs. Skeleton...

October 26, 2005 9:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Head to head" at this point is a mind game played by suckers and sicko-fants... if there is a two way, it's months off. Just as you not that Pacheco's presumed "lead" was months ago.

After 11/08 all bets are off.

Play this game "on paper" as you're tendency is, and you lose the pulse.

October 26, 2005 10:04 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Every day that we proceed into the Villaraigosa "era" becomes a louder wake-up call for people who supported him and see NOTHING whatsoever changing in L.A., except the faces of the overpaid incompentents downtown.

A runoff between his "annointed" -- months from now -- is time for dozens of days of wake up calls, and bad news for the wet one.

October 26, 2005 10:06 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You forgot, and dozens more stories about the failures of LAUSD under Huizar's presidency.

October 26, 2005 10:07 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7:50 What are the name of the relatives and companies?

October 26, 2005 10:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hi Athena,

I like the mayor, but why not ask

Villaraigosa favorability
Yes or No

Not all this stuff (too many gray areas) not specific:

"And just FYI, Villaraigosa favorability: Very Favorable 55, Somewhat favorable 27; somewhat unfavorable 5, Very unfavorable 6. Hmmm, that's 82 to 11 favorable."

October 26, 2005 10:26 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Athena [who ONLY shows up when (s)he thinks there's something to crow about in the Hui-AV-zar camp] begs the question, of course.

WHY did Huizar...

-- head of the citywide school board for two years,

-- board member for the most populous portions of the district that overlaps CD14 for 4 years,

-- supported by the popular politician who beat Pacheco two years ago,

-- not even challenged last term at LAUSD (used his leftover school board campaign money to begin campaigning illegally for CD14 position, instead),

-- lauded, honored, "local boy does good", yada, yada, yada.

WHY, did he start this race out behind Pacheco - someone who left office an eternity ago by politican standards AND after a heavy AV-machine slime job?

The same reason he'll lose this race in the end.

No substance, no new ideas, no actual sense of the issues (took months to even post "vague" cookie-cutter "issue" statements), and no real constituency of his own (just one borrowed from the mayor).

No doubt that the people what disguised Villaraigosa as a "visionary" can prop any paper-thin pretty face up for the electorate for awhile. It's once they have to start DEALING with the issues that everything goes to hell for the people in this district.

October 26, 2005 10:31 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Huizar supporters keep telling us that Pacheco needs to stop dwelling on the "last race" and "bashing" AV.

So why bring up AV's favorables, here?

Is he running as CM for CD14 again, or not?

October 26, 2005 10:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Crystal Arceo for prom queen!!

October 26, 2005 10:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Rumor...a jerk took some Huizar supporters emails and signed them up on Pacheco site.

Investigation under way.

October 26, 2005 10:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"third, money, endorement, and mayor support equal victory?" - 9:41

Ummmm, yeah. That's about right. Guess your not as stupid as your rants suggest.

October 26, 2005 10:44 AM  

Blogger NO_JUE_JOSE said:

Ironically, the opening graphic for Arceo's website was taken in front of one of the LAUSD high schools in Huizar's district (and the buried caption reads...)

"See, this is what we call a 'book' and next week we'll talk about learning to 'read' -- but only if you qualify for Advanced Placement classes."

If someone wants to really get a grasp on the "favorables" at play in this race, ask voters in CD14 how favorably they view the performance of LAUSD (the system, not their local school), in educating their kids.

THAT is what will be the issue for any head-to-head runoff between Pacheco and Huizar.

Effectiveness in government:

CD14 1999-2003

versus

LAUSD 2001-2005.


Ouch, Jose, better quit now. After that's over Princeton won't even return your calls.

October 26, 2005 10:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm active in CD14 affairs and that SURE what I want, a councilmember who's a lackey to the mayor "fighting" (ha, ha, ha) for this district's fair share - for a change.

That fight would already be FIXED, just like it has been for the past two years.

October 26, 2005 10:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Admit is, Dead Mayors, you just post these CD14 things when your hit numbers start to lag again.

No one reading the 4000 word diatribes on local sports?

October 26, 2005 10:48 AM  

Blogger Tofu girl said:

I have seen Pachecos tracking, sample size 800. Pacheco 41% Huizar an embarrassing 29%!! If there is any little Huizar lap dogs out there, let him know he has a leak in his camp. Team Pacheco was thrilled to find out the Huizar team hired not one,but two private detectives to try and find dirt on Pacheco. Just confirms what we already knew. Pacheco is way ahead and little Jose and crew are desperate!! See YA all at Nicks victory party!!

October 26, 2005 11:05 AM  

Blogger Tofu girl said:

Hey Team Pacheco don't forget to have a nice veggie and Tofu platter at your victory party for us supportive vegans!!

October 26, 2005 11:09 AM  

Anonymous C&H Soup said:

Hmmm

Name me a school board member that polls better than their local councilman, or even a councilman in office 4 years ago and i'll show you LIE. None of the current school board members poll better -- because they are part-time electeds and their profile is not that high in the LA media.

Without Lloyd there for Pacheco -- there's no hope, no chance, and it's just a lot of fun to watch a little dejavu for the Pacheco cronies who probably like supporting losers.

October 26, 2005 11:17 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

10:40 Don't blow this up to something big. It was an isolated incident and it was not a Huizar supporter. This was an email mistake, by the way, how did you know?

It was not the Pacheco website, I was told it was one of the others.

October 26, 2005 11:20 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:17

You're standing up a straw man (like your candidate).

No one said "school board member" -- just LAUSD.

To the voters of CD14, Huizar should be and will be portrayed as the captain (for the last 2 years) of the city's biggest, FASTEST sinking ship (who's now running as fast as HE can so as not to go DOWN with it).

LAUSD board members, for the most part, CRAVE the anonymity because they REALLY don't want to be blamed for that monster, and for weeks now Huizar has been trying to "pretend" he's been the fixer at the school district, (a well-meaning little boy with his finger in one small hole of a dike holding back LAUSD's failures, but crumbling faster than the New Orleans levees).

There isn't a parent in the district who wouldn't line up or even pay a couples bucks to get (and APPLY) a bumper sticker that reads: "LAUSD SUCKS!"

(Hey, there's a fundraising scheme for you, Pacheco!)

Ba da bing!

October 26, 2005 11:59 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

In six years of public life I have never seen Nick Pacheco DUCK a tough question.

He hits them head on, explains what can happen, might happen, and what might be done to deal with issues. I'm sure sometimes people with him wish he would duck some issues, but I don't think he has it in him. He's TOO honest, won't promise things he can't deliver, tells people what might hold up delivery, and explains FAR more than most people can digest. Many just WANT a lame promise so they can feel better, and then settle for non-delivery.

Up against a massive liar like Villaraigosa two years ago, it was defintely a handicap for him. Now Huizar is taking cues from AV's same spin team, but many people can see that AV promised more and delivered less.

Bring back the BOY SCOUT and let the SCHOOL BOY finish his lessons.

October 26, 2005 12:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

That was hilarious! And I thought I was a sarcastic bastard.

October 26, 2005 2:20 PM  

Blogger Athena said:

12:05. The ultimate rationalization of a losing campaign "My candidate was too good for the district."

October 26, 2005 2:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Drive through CD14 some time.... the DISTRICT lost more than any candidate did. Serious problems everywhere, and $2 million in discretionary funds collected under Villar are locked away, inaccessible to one of the poorest districts in the city.

The haves = candidates and their rich contributors.

The have nots = the trusting remainder.

October 26, 2005 3:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:20

No, you're just a bastard.

Who IS your daddy? (It ain't Antonio).

October 26, 2005 3:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nice, Athena. A non-rebuttal rebuttal and an admission to Pacheco's superiority as a public service, all rolled into one.

AV-lovers will plotch poison koolaid pellets when they figure that one out.

October 26, 2005 3:13 PM  

Blogger Athena said:

I wrote that it was a rationalization, not the truth.

October 26, 2005 3:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Okay, just a non-rebuttal rebuttal then.

(AV supporters are SO good at inventing rationalizations... I hear that's what his middle initial stands for).

October 26, 2005 3:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Spekaing of rebuttals, that "hording 1-2 million in discretionary funds" claim -- ignoring district requests for it and needs -- has been posted here a bunch of time and never refuted.

I hear Pacheco even posted the accounts balance on it publicly, as provided by Laura Chick showing some of it's been gathering dust since 2003.

Now CD14 staff "caretakers" say they "don't have access to it any more."

What the hell does "don't have access" mean when some of those funds have been in the accounts and on the books since the last six months of Pacheco's term? Who DOES have access (or maybe who IS using it?)

October 26, 2005 3:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

AV took Huizar to the vault room and said "someday my boy, ALL this discretionary funding will be yours."

No one expected AV to do anything as CM, so he was never faulted for sitting on it -- people KNEW he was just stepping over the district to bust Hahn's (and Pacheco's) balls.

But Huizar, who has no clue what the district needs or how to get it done, will need every penny -- if AV gets to step ON the district and get Jose elected -- to pay off AV supporters who back him and keep them happy until the full term contest starts.

October 26, 2005 3:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ah, you've had better "CD14 Meat" Mayors.

October 26, 2005 3:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Villaraigosa lover stopped trying to claim he is honest a long time ago. Now there scripted response is "they all lie."

October 26, 2005 4:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

hey tofu girl, if pacheco has enough money to do an 800 sample track, why doesn't he have any mail?

October 26, 2005 5:23 PM  

Blogger ubrayj02 said:

Dear Crystal Arceo,

Here are three suggestions to make your web-site not suck:

(1) NO MORE FRAMES!

(2) Get rid of annoying blinking text circa 1996.

(3) More photos of you and your friends reading the bible in the walkway/at a restaurant/wherever.

October 26, 2005 5:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey poster taunting Togu grrrrrrl. If Huizar has all the money in the campaign, and endorsement up the wazoo, how come nobody anywhere near me in CD14 knows WHO-zar the hell he is? (But their blue recycling barrels are filling up much faster each week).

October 26, 2005 6:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:23 p.m.

I've received three mailings from Pacheco in the last 2 weeks or so... one about trash fees, and one about another district specific issue developing, and one more generic one about completing projects. (In FACT, Parke Skelton even told people he got one in the mail... go ask him).

I don't Pacheco is JUST mailing to me. (But, the stuff from Huizar, I tossed out accidentally, thinking it was old AV mail stuck in the back of the mailbox. I think they even posed him in the same classroom pointing a kids who just wanted to ask to go the the bathroom).

Did he also wear Antonio's white shirt -- because it looked familiar, too.

Maybe Pacheco just knows who you are -- and that you're a lost cause; not worth spending 16.4 cents, bulk rate postage on.

October 26, 2005 6:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

All anyone has to do is go to a debate and hear for themselves the difference in Pacheco's experience, maturity, vision and knowledge of the politics of city council. Huizar danced around the issues cause he didn't know the answer. A man asked, "Roosevelt elementary school states on the financial report it will cost $20 million. On the report there is a box that states "Other" marked with $12 million next to it. "Mr. Huizar what is that $12 mil other for? Huizar, "I don't know but if you would like I can get one of my staff to sit with you and find out."

October 26, 2005 7:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ubrayj02 probably wants to see Crystal Arceo on the website watching pornos with friends.

October 26, 2005 7:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12 million and no idea what the heck it's for?

This is what went wrong with LAUSD...Damn! I throw all of the daily mailers sent to me from Huizar in the BLACK trash can...don't bother tarnishing the blue one...too high class for this bastard.

October 26, 2005 7:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Man, the ladies who post such vitriol have really gotten a free pass on this site, considering how much grief the Mayors took during their outing...

Tofu Girl, we know you are Adeena Bleich - c'mon, admit it!

And we all know that for a while, Chief Parker was none other than Jen Forkish.

October 26, 2005 9:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey, Athena, is Huizar asking about Villaraigosa's favorability in his track? Or was it a question in the Targeted Communications
"targeted survey" and never made public?

October 26, 2005 10:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

50 mil for homeless and no more cops? what an idiot. like the people in the valley don't matter...

October 26, 2005 11:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:04 - if they don't know, then they probably aren't registered to vote. And if they can't vote, who gives a fu*k about their opinion?

October 27, 2005 12:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, you're right 12:29. You keep narrowing the focus, until there's nobody left.

NOPE, you're wrong they don't know how Huizar is BECAUSE HE HASN"T DONE ANYTHING WORTH HEARING ABOUT.

October 27, 2005 12:48 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

everyone should really look into voting for BRIAN HECKMANN. while pacheco and huizar are career politicians, Heckmann is not and he seems like he actually CARES about making a change and improving the streets. it even actually looks like if he can continue to mobilize his success of a grassroots campaign, he can win the District 14 seat through a runoff. look into him!!! votebrianheckmann.com

October 27, 2005 1:03 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Can you say "WASTED VOTE"?

The Moore the merrier?

October 27, 2005 12:30 PM  

Blogger ubrayj02 said:

For the record, I don't want to see Arceo watching pr0n with her friends. I just think her site sucks. She should steal someone's CSS stlyesheet and make a better site.

October 27, 2005 4:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

in reference to Heckmann, I am not wasting my vote. I'd rather give my vote to someone who truely cares than to a career politician, and "compromise" my vote. I am not wasting my vote. I am clearly voting for the candidate that I feel will be the most effective, and am practicing my civic duty as an American.

October 27, 2005 11:31 PM  

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