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Monday, August 29, 2005

Style! Spin! Acrimony!

The LA Downtowns News brings us the latest installment in the CD 14 war. Here's your chance to cut and paste your day away!

Style! Spin! Acrimony! -- Assessing the 14th District Council Candidates' Strengths And Weaknesses

by Jon Regardie

There are two schools of thought, sorry, make that spin, regarding the 14th District City Council race. Anyone who says they know for sure that theirs is the right one is lying to you.

The first is that school board member Jose Huizar is a shoo-in to win the seat held until June 30 by Antonio Villaraigosa. This theory, uttered by many in City Hall, holds that Huizar's massive fundraising and endorsement lead will crush Team Pacheco. It says the coattails of prime backer Villaraigosa, and the aid of many who want to be in the still-new mayor's good graces, will carry Huizar, like an emperor in a littler, to a cushy leather chair on Spring Street.

The second belief system says that Nick Pacheco's 1999-2003 term as council rep of the district (before Villaraigosa ousted him) provides an insurmountable level of community support and name recognition. Council endorsements and naysayers be damned, quip Pacheco supporters, for it is 14th District residents, not City Hall staffers, who vote, and when they cast their ballots they'll pick the proven finder of funds, supporter of neighborhoods and overall Friend Of The People.

There is plenty to believe and question about each argument, as the first two months of the race have been lively and full of strategy. Although voters do not head to the polls until Nov. 8, the initial positioning and debates have revealed that both candidates have some notable strengths, as well as some troubling weaknesses. Here's a rundown of what they bring to the table, what they'd like to hide under it, and a couple wildcards.

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157 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

......Huizar Wildcard: The Villaraigosa Effect: The BOOING in Boyle Heights, AND reaction at a Highland Park debate, reveal that.....they're still not pleased he stayed in his council seat barely long enough for a cup of coffee. It remains to be seen whether Villaraigosa really helps or hinders Huizar.

Antonio has to know there's a lot of resentment CD 14 because he bailed on them and Jose will get the brunt of that revenge.

August 29, 2005 7:24 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Most voters never have any contact with a CM or his office except by mail or due to a campaign. JH will win that contest. MAV obviously helps by helping him get the resources.

There is a tiny, energetic faction that hates AV, and some people who resent his having moved up so quick. But even a lot of people who like Pachueco but are not among the these two circles are open to seeing how JH will be able to help the district with AV's support. The majority of all voters will be able to see that, in spite of the contrarians.

August 29, 2005 7:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Agree with the above. Most people who identify at all with their electeds, especially for ethnic reasons, mainly want somebody there who is not going to embarrass them. Pachueco already has, and all the JH campaign has to do is subtly remind the majority of that.

August 29, 2005 8:01 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Amazing take on the Belmont-Vista Hermosa deal. I worked at the District and Jose's involvement was minimal. If credit is to do any where, it's to Roy Romer and Ed Reyes. Jose gets credit for showing up to a couple of press conferences.

August 29, 2005 8:11 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The mayor has to work with whoever is elected. I would have thought it was in the interests of CD14 residents to have somebody who will stand up for their interests and not have somebody who is in the pocket of the mayor. I wish we had an alternative in CD10

August 29, 2005 8:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

There is a tiny, energetic faction that hates AV


Tiny is putting it midly. Did you see the voter turnout in CD 14? Wasn't it only 25%? Jose is in trouble because of LAUSD.

August 29, 2005 8:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Decisions are made by the people who show up.

August 29, 2005 9:04 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

BUT WHAT HAPPENS, when the voters find out that Huizar's "I'm building 160 new schools" is ALMOST as big a lie as the AV/Parke Skelton/Chief Parker RICO conspiracy to cover up the HUGE lie about AV saying, "I started 80 NEW NEIGBORHOOD WATCH ORGANIZATIONS" in CD14 last year (no proof ANYWHERE to be found). When was the last time someone allowed a sitting public official to cover up a lie repeatedly, without any repercussions - even to his "coattails."

Think about THAT!

August 29, 2005 9:33 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

8:01 say Pacheco "has already" embarrassed CD14.

Please support that with actual facts, and not lies leaked to the L.A. Times by Parke(r) Skelton in 2002-2003 (all since TOTALLY debunked to the point that the lazy L.A. Times reporters WON'T even repeat them now, even just to fill their 1000 words-a-day quota).

STOP REPEATING THE LIES. . . they won't help. Now that people in CD14 KNOW that the AV campaign if '03 was ALL based on lies, do you REALLY want to tarnish the Huizar campaign with the same discredited muck?

Better yet, PLEASE do. They're SO easy to brush away with a half ounce of TRUTH.

August 29, 2005 9:36 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

When was the last time you had a L.A. City Council race where the local papers wouldn't repeat claims against one candidate from the last election. It's pro forma... it's in paragraph 3 or 4 of every wrap-up story. UNLESS it's already been proven FALSE.

It's obvious the local media got stung with AV's 1000 percent bogus campaign slime against Pacheco last time, and are on watch now.

August 29, 2005 9:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:36 - The most cogent facts in direct answer to your question are that the Times called for Pachueco's ouster (with an editorial citing many uncontested facts), and he got blown out in the primary (to his own huge and unending embarrassment). The electoral result shows that many voters felt Pachueco had embarrassed them as their CM. Pachueco has himself acknowledged as much by saying that he "learned his lesson" with regard to certain sorts of campaign tactics.

August 29, 2005 9:54 AM  

Anonymous nicky poo said:

Anons 9:36/9:39 - You are kidding yourselves if you think the Times and others won't between now and election day revisit the issues that brought about Pachueco's demise in 2003. He'll get to spin his side of the story (with your help), but it will be revisited. Tough Nicky poo.

August 29, 2005 10:02 AM  

Blogger politix said:

It's funny that the LA Downtown News stated that PaCHUECO's wildcard (hope) is his grassroots organizing. If Jose Huizar having over 400 people volunteering at his headquarters last weekend wasn't grassroots support, then I don't know what is. PaCHUECO's previous peers don't trust him, which explains the lack of endorsements!

At the same time, Huizar needs to acknowledge Antonio's support, but not rely on it completely. Huizar needs to show that he is truly qualified to govern CD14, regardless of his endorsements. At this point, if Huizar doesn't ease off the AV train, it might end up hurting him. There is STRONG resentment toward AV in CD14, "make no mistake about it." People did support AV for mayor only because they wanted him replaced.

August 29, 2005 10:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7:57 anonsyas:

"Most voters never have any contact with a CM or his office except by mail or due to a campaign."

You obviously are from the Tony/Parke school of thought where the emperor never has contact with his subjects. Pacheco had open office hours which went on to the late evenings because average citizens lined up to talk to him. Most voters in CD14 have personally met Nick either at community functions or by Nick walking door to door. Nick brought back a sense of community to our district, only to be shattered by Tony.

And 8:01 ANON, the only one who has embarrassed the district is Tony - when he abandoned it and when he ran from his personal life.

August 29, 2005 10:51 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Politix

400 volunteers at his headquarters?! You must have double, if not triple vision. And how many of these people actually walked or talked? All we saw is little junior high kids walking the streets with Huizar's family, and they weren't having much success.

August 29, 2005 10:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nicky Poo


Go ahead and re-visit those lies that Parke thought up. It caused the demise of a well respected non-profit organization. This time lawyers are standing by at the ready. Please re-visit this!

August 29, 2005 10:55 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Whoops, 9:54 a.m., there you go again -- regurgitating debunked editorials from 2.5 years ago, that were BASED on the Parke Skelton slime lies.

Sorry, you lose, you have to retreat to the slime-fest, since there's nothing "new" or true about any of that.

August 29, 2005 11:14 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah Politix sounds like the same exaggerations that AV uses when he does community clean ups. Officers were embarrassed by the low turn out at National Night Out in Highland Park where Av/Jose showed up and even had people bused in. Officers said maybe 200 people showed up but AV kept saying 1,000.

Most of the people showing up to Jose's campaign are high schoolers who don't know any better. The BOOING in Boyle Heights and Highland Park is sending a loud message to Jose. Stand on your own like a "real man".

August 29, 2005 11:19 AM  

Blogger NO_JUE_JOSE said:

Jose's troops are in deep poo-poo already. The only way they can rebut Pacheco's PROGRESS-ive track record from 1999-2003 (short of BECOMING the shaman, Villaraigosa) is to constantly, but vaguely try to remind people that someone, previously (criminally and intentionally) tried to paint Pacheco as "crooked" -- like the minion posters keep trying here, without proveable facts.

BUT Jose said he "bailed" from supporting Nick because of the "dirty" campaign he thought Pacheco ran.

Already, Jose's Tonies (I mean "toadies") are getting caught playin Scud-y (I mean "scummy") little dirty tricks that would make R. Torres III blush.

The only way to "win" Jose, is to be an even bigger hypocrite than your master, and hope no one notices that YOUR team is the ONLY one playing dirty.

Stike 2, and swinging at air!

August 29, 2005 11:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How about Paul Gonzales? Maybe not as polished as Jose or Nick, but he has a good heart, and cares about the area and its needs. Maybe an outsider, one that is willing to stay around will be better than old reruns.

August 29, 2005 11:40 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes, Paul has a good heart. Make him a candystriper as County USC.

Unfortunately he took one too many shots to the head as a boxer.

"Not as polished?" Have you heard this guy speak? Here's a typical quote:

"I'm against anything that would be against the good things our community should be doing to be good. I'm against that.

August 29, 2005 11:43 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey anon, give us Paul Gonzalez's contact information, website, etc..

I contacted huizar's office to volunteer, got the run around. I contacted pacheco's same thing. I want to help and see which one is best to pick.

August 29, 2005 11:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

10:55 - Is that you Marty, trying to intimidate the press and everyday bloggers with squads of lawyers? Is that what you brought home from the Ivy League?

August 29, 2005 11:44 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:43 I'd rather hear that than a blatant LIE! Like AV's lies.

August 29, 2005 11:45 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, and that constitutes a major campaign platform for him!

The other city councilmembers would eat him alive (EVEN Tom LaBonge).

August 29, 2005 11:46 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I signed up to volunteer at all candidates offices...only got a call from Gonzalez, De Vera, I think the others are getting picky or somthing. What a democracy, they do not want people to help.

August 29, 2005 11:47 AM  

Anonymous bring back pachueco! said:

The 'great fact' about Pachueco is that the voters booted him out the first chance they got.

August 29, 2005 11:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dumb and honest, that's how you like them, huh?

Enter the "Jimmy Carter" phase of L.A. city politics. . . how do you spell "malaise?"

AV wants someone on his "team" so he can tell them what to do. Even if you like AV as mayor, I don't think he wants someone in there that's going to look lost in traffic at every city council meeting. That's a skill he reserves for field staffers.

August 29, 2005 11:49 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Villaraigosa looks tired nowadays...is this job too much for him? Did Mohammed scold him?

August 29, 2005 11:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Booted out" in favor of a guy who PROMISED to stay for 4-8 years, and hasn't told the truth about anything since. When someone has to lie about your record to beat you, lie about their intentions in order to to get into office, and then lie repeatedly about what they accomplished in the very short time they were there, that's a drubbing loss for the district -- not the incumbent who was replaced.

I'd call that vindication for Pacheco!

It's a credit to Nick that his campaign slogan isn't "I TOLD YOU SO, SUCKERS!"

August 29, 2005 11:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Does any blogger know how Huizar or Pacheco feel towards supporting what our soldiers are doing in Iraq. I know they are sissy liberals, but for a Republican this could help us sift through the the silt.

August 29, 2005 11:54 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey thanks for asking for info on Paul, I'm not a campaign geek but he was the only one at Debate #2 that gave me more than 15 seconds and hand shake and a "do you want a flier?" He seems to be real grass roots. Yeah maybe a little short on words, but I'd sit on a porch and have a beer with him! He seems to be a genuine nice person in a sea of sharks.
here's the info I have from a business card.....
Friends of Paul Gonzales
PO Box 331249 LA CA 90033
(323) 263-4425 (323)969-6028
Fax (323)263-4425

August 29, 2005 12:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I am going to share with you guys a little of the stragety Huizar needs to win. This comes from the highest pols....GET RID OF THAT INEPT STAFF JOSE.

Huizar needs the best staff available to help him win. No one on his current staff has had the experience needed to win in a tight race.

The Higher up Pols are worried. Don't be surprised if they get "reassigned" to more important things like staying out of the campaign.

JOSE - "DUMP THAT INEPT STAFF"

1) Laura (Ghetto girl) Barrera,
2) Alvin (Time has come and gone) Parra,
3) Monica (No experience) Garcia,
and 4) David (Friend of Albert Robles) Cobb.

August 29, 2005 12:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If Jose dumped his staff, I would help out immediately. I see nothing good with the current staff that will help the community. I can gather groups, it would benefit him to have people (grass roots like myself) help him and get rid of what he has.

August 29, 2005 12:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is my take on his staff. Laura, a record of horrible constituent service & maltreatment of people will tarnish any elected official she touches. Alvin Parra, bribed a politician in the past, pimped his wife politically, and kisses major ass to any CD14 candidate with leverage to Antonio. He wanted to be CM and MAYOR. He is better naming himself President of this and that as he is just doing in CD14. He bypasses elections and elects himself to all sorts of positions. Don't worry, the uneducated people of CD14 won't know the difference. Monica, I agree has no experience and has a long history with the inconsistency of CD14 Villaraigosa staff. David Guilt By Association! Wow! What a friend David has in the can.

August 29, 2005 12:32 PM  

Anonymous lou cypher said:

discredited lies?

tell that to all the kids that didn't get health care because la colectiva (or should i say la colecti-"marina") spent the state's outreach money for the health families program on nick's campaign.

folks, just saying it ain't true doesn't MAKE it not true. nick's so crooked he can f*ck around a corner.

August 29, 2005 12:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bogus, bogus, bogus... you owe money as much as Pacheco does (and I think you've gone so Villaraigosa-blind you're even mixing up your lies.)

Go BACK to Parke Skelton, and ask pretty-please if he can Xerox a new spin-sheet for you, one without the kool-aid stains. Next thing you'll be saying is Pacheco lied about WMDs and 80 fake neighborhood watches!

August 29, 2005 12:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Laura-Chewbacca
Alvin-A chipmunk
Monica-Ewok
David-Liza Minnelli's ex husband

August 29, 2005 12:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Parke, Alvin can't spin like you stop potty training the inept staff. I could have done better. I spin for money not for candidate.

August 29, 2005 12:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Show me the mone Parke...Skelton...before the IRS finds it...or have they found it already?

August 29, 2005 12:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So I HEAR (from the ADV-lite) campaign, that La Coletica actually BOUGHT the Xmas turkeys, cooked them in FRONT of the starving Eastside children (on spits supplied by pro-Pacheco produce market vendors), let the kids lick the salty skin, just enough to torture them, and then SOLD the food and toys while the urchins watched, to bootleg holiday food resellers at THREE TIMES the price. Then they donated all that money to buy Pacheco a new CD changer for his gas-guzzling SUV.

That's what I hear from Parke the Skel!

August 29, 2005 12:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Parke, you are twisting this all wrong buddy. Let's meet I have a plan.

August 29, 2005 12:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I hear there's an ethics commission INVESTIGATION under way...

(Don't know who's being investigated, it's just time for the liberal, progressive camps to claim SOMEONE is being investigated.) They alway start about this far out, and then add new "smoke" to prove there's a "fire" somewhere about the time absentees go out.

Because we all know -- if you're investigated, then you must be guilty.

And if you're found NOT guilty, after an election is over, tough shit. The camp with the best SLIME lies wins.

August 29, 2005 12:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

lou cypher:

Yes dicredited lies. Four D.A. reports and a City Ethics report to back that up. There is also a State investigation and Court records from the county case.

You know who blew that outreach money, Rudy Diaz, the Executive Director of Community Health Foundation. You know who his wife was, Deborah Villar, Tony's sister. Look into that million dollar house they bought in Glendale. Not bad for someone who used to work at the Broadway perfume counter.

If what you say is true, then why aren't these guys in jail or even indicted?

August 29, 2005 12:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Pachueco sounds worse than Scrooge!

August 29, 2005 12:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

He is much better than the Fabain guy who went to Mexico and salutes the Mexican flag and shames ours.

Watch the video at:

http://www.americanpatrol.com/04-FEATURES/040809-NUNEZ-BANDITO/Video-Gutierrez-Anthem.html

August 29, 2005 12:50 PM  

Blogger Parque Esqueleto said:

ANYONE figure out what the BIG high-profile Jose endorsement's going to be this week. It's a shocker that he would bother to endorse (but no surprise who he picked). Pacheco's people know - but we haven't let Huizar in on it, yet.

I sent him an IM, but his Etch-a-Sketch is having connectivity problems.

Some of the Northeast people know, too (if they have there's ears open).

August 29, 2005 12:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Parke the Skel.

Good One!

August 29, 2005 12:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah! I'll always wonder why Pachueco isn't behind bars.

August 29, 2005 12:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Shut up, 'Parque.' Everybody knows who you are implying.

August 29, 2005 12:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You said "You know who blew that outreach money, Rudy Diaz, the Executive Director of Community Health Foundation. You know who his wife was, Deborah Villar, Tony's sister."

Is this shit true? Ah man, i have been helping Villaraigosa, helping huizar, but the more i hear this shit, the more I want to leave the clan.

August 29, 2005 12:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:53

Parke and his crew want you to keep wondering, but it will never happen. I bet Tony lands in the slammer first.

August 29, 2005 12:55 PM  

Blogger Parque Esqueleto said:

Facts?

We don't need no STINKIN' facts. Once we slime somebody, they stay slimed. Make it up as we go -- no problem. Official reports to contradict us? Who cares - nobody reads official reports, not even the media.

Keeps them out of commission for several elections. Now THAT's efficiency in campaigning.

Facts... HA! Don't make me laugh, my face will crack. If I was interested in facts, I wouldn't work with Antonio, or make up stories about 80 watches and cleanups with thousands of volunteers (does DPW even OWN 1000 brooms?).

"Perception" is facts; that's what pays the mortgage!

August 29, 2005 12:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sugar Ray Leonard is endorsing Huizar.

Or

Ben affleck

August 29, 2005 1:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:54

Yes it's true, ask Parke, he knows. Rudy married Deborah Villar after Tony got elected to the State Assembly. Tony then becomes Speaker and Healthy Families becomes law, giving Rudy and his new wife millions of dollars. Community Health Foundation went under in 2002. Gloria Molina's Health Deputy Marth Molina had family working at this facility, along with Miguel Santana's brother, Gloria's Deputy Chief. Ever wonder why there wasn't a full fledged investiagtion of this organization which had a multi million dollar metl down of public funds. They spent their time investigating La Colectiva and found nothing. Gloria tired to hush everything up and now AltaMed runs Community Health Foundations government funded clinics. Community Health Foundation even ran school based clinics for LAUSD - one at Lincoln, Roosevelt and Garfield.

There is much, much more.

August 29, 2005 1:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Marth," not "Darth"?

August 29, 2005 1:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:01 I just get frustrated with all this stuff. My kids want to look up to a Latino politician, but I don't want them to look up to a liar and thief.

Can I anonymously report this to the Attorney General? I hate this shit, abuse of people.

August 29, 2005 1:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What about that Edward Roybal Clinic on 3rd street. Does molina put her fingers through those funds too?

I hear they have the worst service and people are treated like shit, si mierda!

August 29, 2005 1:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Community Health Foundation was the largest Latino primary care provider in the nation. Over 600,000 clinic visits a year. And just like that they are gone. Over 200 people out of work and no investigation of this $40 million dollar a year non-profit.

I wonder how much money they got from LAUSD for those school based clinics. Huizar should know.

August 29, 2005 1:09 PM  

Blogger Parque Esqueleto said:

Don't ask ME, 1:01 p.m. I KNOW NOTHING, Nothing. . . (just sign the checks, Tony).

I sold out my 60s hippie idealism so long ago, for political expediency, the receipt for the sale is (well, would have been), on display in the Southwest Museum.

If I could find RECEIPTS that is (that's another whole can of worms). DON'T GET ME STARTED.

August 29, 2005 1:10 PM  

Anonymous LATINO LEGISLATIVE CAUCUS GALLERY said:

LATINO LEGISLATIVE CAUCUS GALLERY

http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/LatinoCaucus/gallery.htm

August 29, 2005 1:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What are the requirements to run for council member?

Do you have to be a H.S. Grad?

lausd grad?

BA degree?

Just motivation and intelligence?

What is it?

Who is in our council and doesn't have a VALID BA DEGREE or HIGHER?

August 29, 2005 1:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Community Health Foundation was also in the middle of an extensive clinic expansion. Over a dozen clinics to be built. You know who brokered this multi-million dollar deal. Ron Martinez, Gloria's husband and Tony's best man at his wedding. He brokered the deal for Barrio Planners, Gloria Molina's pet developer for MTA. Hundreds of thousands of dollars and no record of clinics being built.

I wonder how much Rudy Diaz gave to Tony. For that matter, I wonder how many Community Health Foundation employees gave money to Tony and Gloria. How many are giving money to Huizar now?

Instead of investigating this the press and the DA chose to investigate another East L.A. non-profit because they spent $36,000 on christmas turkeys and toys for housing project kids. Such is the world of East L.A. politics. Such is the world Huizar has entered.

August 29, 2005 1:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is Nicole Parra related to Alvin parra?

August 29, 2005 1:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A good contact at the Times says most of the political reporters won't even take Skelton's calls anymore - he left them looking so naive and stupid with his leaks in the last two elections.

He just has to keep introducing himself the whoever the newest person in the section is, to try new slime spin, before they hear about him track record with primed, bogus "investigations."

August 29, 2005 1:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yes, 1:15, but this has to be investigated from out of this area. Don't you see Villaraigosa puts people/friends in power to control what data goes in and comes out. It is all about CONTROL. We need the US Attorney General to look at the mess that has been occurring here and track back to the inception of key players, if it is Molina, Villaraigosa, they should be jailed. Who ever is responsible should be jailed!

August 29, 2005 1:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:13

She used to be on the council but now she is a supervisor.

Gloria Molina doesn't have a B.A.

Neither does former Assemblyman and State Senator Richard Polanco.

Neither does former school board member Larry Gonzalez.

Villaraigosa got kicked out of two high schools, but he does have a B.A. form UCLA, despite his 1.8 GPA.

Get the picture?

August 29, 2005 1:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Villaraigosa got a BA with a 1.8 GPA, is that even possible? Is it legal?

August 29, 2005 1:23 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What does Gloria Molina have? An AA maybe?

If that is the case, there are far more qualified people to run for council memebers that may not have a degree but have intelligence to run things ethically!

And there are far more qualified people also with degrees that are ethical too instead of having HUIZAR, MOLINa as our voice.

August 29, 2005 1:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is Alvin a chipmunk, or related to Nicole Kidman?

August 29, 2005 1:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Alvin is a moron

August 29, 2005 1:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Deborah Villar
Program Director, Clínica Monseñor Oscar A. Romero

Clinica Msr. Oscar A. Romero Community Health Center

2032 Marengo Street
Los Angeles, CA 90033

Phone: (323) 987-1030
Fax: (323) 221-4528

Clinica Romero Northeast, besides offering primary health and dental care, also provides substance abuse counseling and Prop. 36 services.

August 29, 2005 1:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:25

Gloria took some classes at East L.A. Community College and at Rio Hondo Community College, but got nowhere near an AA. Some role model!

1:23

Yeah, it's legal. The question is, did he really work for this 1.8 GPA? He used to brag publicly about his grades at UCLA until Parke made him tone it down. Tony thought this would make him connect with "the people." He failed the bar four times and took up politics as a consolation prize.

August 29, 2005 1:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:33 PM

Deborah Villar was also on the board of Clinica Romero - using that Tony "influence" again. When Community Health Foundation went under, she brokered a deal that kept her employed at Clinica Romero, they took over one of Community Health Foundations County funded clinics. Other Community Health Foundation staffers got the boot, but Deborah managed to squeeze herself another job - as a board member of a non-profit, isn't this unethical, not to mention illegal.

August 29, 2005 1:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

But Villaraigosa was smart enough to have his staff start 80 NEW NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH ORGANIZATIONS in CD 14 last year. That's FOUR TIMES the amount started in all 14 other districts COMBINED (that's 20 for you folks to went to LAUSD school under Huizar's board presidency). And AV bragged about that TOO, to the the LA Weekly.

He's pretty smart after all, huh.

As soon as there's proof those exist, he'll be a genius! RIGHT, Chief Faker?

And so will you!

But until there is proof, none of you have any credibility!

August 29, 2005 2:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

When does the City Council get back?

I miss the Alger / Smith fight, this CD14 shit is getting old!

August 29, 2005 2:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don't bother Parker, Watcho. He's digging through the trash bins at Nick Pacheco's home looking for bottle caps.

Pretty much everyone recycles bottles, but did you know you're SUPPOSED to recycle the caps, TOO!

That's got to be SOME kind of violation, and proof Pacheco HATES the planet earth.

Go get 'em Parker. Look for dead family pets buried in the back yard, too. I think that's some kind of health violation now.

August 29, 2005 2:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:03

You cracked me up. I agree. That wal mart/NC stuff added excitement to the day.

If I hear about the 80 Neighborhood Watches one more time I am going to scream.

August 29, 2005 2:11 PM  

Anonymous lou cypher said:

damn - you people really live in an alternate universe.

villaraigosa is responsible for la colectiva? is that why la colectiva changed its name to "mothers for nick" in 2003?

you have to be kidding - next thing you're going to tell me is he staged the "gloria marina" call to get himself sympathy.

and i was incorrect, THAT call came from Cal, Inc, a company OWNED by nick pacheco. oh, but he claimed the call was "programmed" by his dead buddy, monserrat. he couldn't have known, even though he was so close to lloyd that his death threw the 2003 race into the shitter for nick.

but hey, its okay you live in an alternate universe, because the imaginary people in your world don't even vote.

but the real-life prosecutors in the reality-based community can convict nick's buddies and cronies.

keep typing - if you don't, that tinfoil hat may fall off your head, and you know what that means: parke skelton will be able to read your thoughts!

wackos.

August 29, 2005 3:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Lou with the screw loose.

Keep spinning, your'e making Parke proud.

Of course no one at any reputable news publication will believe any of this anymore, but you may convince a few hundred more Villaraigosa-life kool-aid drinkers.

Especially posting as Lucifer.

When is the whole AV/Huizar troupe heading off to Guyana to avoid "persecution?"

I'll bring streamers to the port.

August 29, 2005 3:13 PM  

Blogger Parque Esqueleto said:

I am INDEED proud of Lucifer!

See me smiling???

August 29, 2005 3:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NOTE that "Lou Cypher" only blogs here when Parke has a client in a local race!

(And then usually only to call other wackos!)

August 29, 2005 3:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

La Colectiva and the "Mothers" were too different organizations. Some of the same people, but so what... there are only 50 activitists in any given community in CD14, they all wear 15 hats!

Pacheco didn't OWN the phone bank that did the Marina call -- unless you're calling Steve Cooley a liar (and for a guy who's in trouble with the IRS, you should be making more FRIENDS in law enforcement, not less).

READ MY LIPS... COOLEY CONFIRMED it was BACERRA's STAFF that wrote the Marina call.

PERIOD.

Call Cooley a liar again, please.

I just love it.

August 29, 2005 3:24 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't remember reading that Pacheco said Monserrat programmed the message. That was what the DA said in his report. The DA also said Pacheco had nothing to do with it. Lou just came back courtesy of Parke to spin some lies.

Here's a puzzler - What does Parke's hero have in common with his mistress?

August 29, 2005 3:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Whose mistress, his hero's or his own?

August 29, 2005 3:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I understand Parke's heroes are FDR, JFK and RFK, who all indeed had mistresses. So it's a tangled question.

August 29, 2005 3:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Don't forget Gary Hart, Clinton & Henry Cisneros -- all heroes of Parke's.

August 29, 2005 3:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is Nick Pacheco related to Lindsay Lohan?

August 29, 2005 3:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No, but he played C3PO in Star Wars 1-2.

August 29, 2005 3:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Was Edwards his British accent coach?

August 29, 2005 3:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Deborah Villar is hot. Don't forget that. Beauty and connections go a long way.

August 29, 2005 3:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

deborah is hot. is that her own rack?

August 29, 2005 3:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Note ALSO, the the Parke and the Skelton-ettes have to keep digging FURTHER and further back into the past in order to "prove" Pacheco is the "Chueco" and not their own little crooked truth-hater, AV.

Now its 2001, next they'll be talking about '99, then who knows when. The house of cards that they made up to slime a decent public servant as "crooked" just keeps tumbling down, year-by-year.

Pretty soon they'll be telling us Nick cheated on his SATs.

August 29, 2005 3:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nah, nah, no -- they're not going to let you talk mistresses here. That's off-limits. Outing gay family members, destroying someone's complete professional career with no proof, NO problem!

But NO "kids" and NO mistresses, got it?

THAT you gotta "prove!"

August 29, 2005 3:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Talk about going back. I knew there was something tricky about Nick when I heard him claim he was born in an adobe cabin that he built with his own hands. Does he think we're fools? I knew I'd heard that story before.

August 29, 2005 4:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is Nick...the devil?

August 29, 2005 4:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nah, don't you know -- LOU CYPHER is the devil!

August 29, 2005 4:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You guys are going to piss Parke Skelton off exploding all these myths he's built several very profitable local campaigns on.

August 29, 2005 4:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nick once called AV "the political messiah," so that would make himself the anti-christ, no?

August 29, 2005 4:28 PM  

Anonymous 100! said:

100! 100! 100!

August 29, 2005 4:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jesus, Nick. You must be really hard up.

August 29, 2005 4:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This smells rotten, the Huizar Gang has been blogging here!

August 29, 2005 4:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

WHO-zar?

August 29, 2005 5:07 PM  

Anonymous lou cypher said:

wow. you guys really have a hard-on for parke. rest assured, i am not him.

but i wasn't talking about parke. now, if you want me to get into RECENT criminal behavior by your beloved "public serpent" pacheco, how 'bout that produce mart deal? pretty sweet for his contributors, eh?

how about his fake charity he used to squeeze vendors, developers and donors?

or the 50K he moved to the la colectiva/mothers group the same week they posted a 50K "independent expenditure" for him?

and just a suggestion, instead of waiting to post a new comment every two minutes, why don't you just put them all in one?

no need to pretend there is more than one tinfoil hat screeching "foul" everytime somebody chastises the public serpent for being a criminal.

August 29, 2005 5:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

All debunked, sorry, you're so "90s" here.

Try to catch up Lou; you've been away since Parke's last slimefest, or you'd know people with real ears to the real ground have already, with the past week, put all this stuff out (with more precise details and charges), and had to go running away with little forked tails between their week knees.

Your numbers are wrong, your details are wrong, and the guy with the pretty "80 watches" picture already tore Chief Parker a new one last week when he tried to pull the "produce mart" crap wool over silly kool-aid heads eyes here.

You're wrong in so many ways there aren't enough postings available to address them.

August 29, 2005 6:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Finally someone even less savvy and tuned in than Chief Faker -- LOU-zer!

Plus your little attempt to count heads here is pretty lame, since you're the only one left at this hour trying to spin old news headlines here against Pacheco any more.

August 29, 2005 6:08 PM  

Blogger Parque Esqueleto said:

Consider yourself demoted Cypher.

Don't call me -- I'll call you!

Don't feel too bad, though, that's the same thing the Times has been telling me since AV won -- and they don't!

August 29, 2005 6:10 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Lou Cyper, don't bother going back and trying to find out how "Chief Parker's" attempt to scam this same information (produce market, etc), was blown out of the water -- here's the whole lowdown from the 80 watches poster. Put's rebuts all the party line your've been given before you have a chance to waste everyone's time with the same lies again:

Sine you all like to break things down into different parts here is PART 1.

Where to start Faker? I've got a whole bunch of holes to poke in this one and it's going to be fun. First, let's look at the price - which you say should have been sold for $20 - not $18 million. Did you read the motion Parker? Probably not since details don't seem to intrest you much. If you read it - or can read at all - you would see that the City accepted a cash payment for this property. That's why they took the $18 million - because it was upfront payment. Here is a portion of the motion:

2. ACCEPT the offer of a cash price of $18 million and a restriction value of $20 million from the Los Angeles Wholesale Produce Market, LLC, for the direct sale of City-owned property at 1601 East Olympic Boulevard as detailed in Attachment C to the City Administrative Officer (CAO) report dated May 27, 2003 (attached to the file).


PART II. Now, you claim that Nick was the one who lead the sale. First, his motion calls for an investigation into the sale, it does not call for the actual sale. If you knew anything about city hall, you would know that there is a BIG difference. Don't beleive me, since you didn't read the motion, here is what Nick's said.

FURTHER MOVE that the Community Development Department in conjunction with the General Services Department (GSD) and with the assistance of the Chief Legislative Analyst (CLA) include in its ANALYSIS an ASSESSMENT of the effect on the continued operations of the Produce Market, should the City's sell its interest in the Produce Market Ground Lease to an entity other than the Ground Lessee.
FURTHER MOVE that in the event of the sale of the City's interest in the Produce Market Ground Lease, a line item called the East Los Angeles Youth Opportunities Center be created and that fifty percent of the proceeds of the sale be directed to the East Los Angeles Youth Opportunities Center line item within the appropriate departmental budget for the design, construction and maintenance of a new youth facility within the Fourteenth Council District.
FURTHER MOVE that in the event of the sale of the City's interest in the Produce Market Ground Lease, the remaining fifty percent of the proceeds of the sale be allocated to the proper departmental budget.

Part III. Now, you claim that it was Nick who pushed through the final sale. Not so quick with the trigger there Faker. Actually, here is the motion for the final sale. Interesting, Nicks name is NOT on it. IT WAS A GARCETTI CARDENAS MOTION DUMBASS. Do your homework Faker before you start pointing fingers.

Don't believe me? Here is a copy of the motion authorizing the sale.

9-26-03 - This day's Council session - Motion - Cardenas Mover 2003 / Garcetti - On June 10, 2003 the City Council adopted Ordinance (175302) authorizing the sale of certain real property owned by the City of Los Angeles to the Los Angeles Wholesale Produce Market LLC, located in Council District Fourteen (14). The sale closed escrow and funds are available for projects approved by the Council.

PART IV (that's a 4 Faker)

In your post, you admit yourself that a portion of the proceeds from the sale of this property went to,

"Youth Opportunities Center in Boyle Heights, a facility that would house programs to help at-risk youths."

Now, I know you didn't do your homework, because it seems ANTONIO had his fingers in this pie too. He signed on to a motion asking for a portion of this "tainted" $18 million to go towards youth programs in CD-14. If it's good enough for him, then it should be good enough for you. Unless you're saying that AV was part of this too? Which is it Faker?

Don't believe me again? Here is a copy of the motion AV signed on to.

On July 14, 2003 the City Council approved Motion (Parks - Garcetti - Ludlow - Villaraigosa - Cardenas - Hahn - Perry) requesting the Chief Legislative Analyst and City Administrative Officer to identify $1 million to augment the LA Bridges II program (Council File 03-1473) and report within 30 days.

THE UNALLOCATED BALANCE FROM THE PRODUCE MARKET SALE may be used to provide funds to the Santee Court project and augment the LA Bridges II program. As such the City Council should instruct the Chief Legislative Analyst and City Administrative Officer to report on the feasibility of utilizing these funds to assist the Santee Court project and LA Bridges II program and report to Council within the allocated time period.
THEREFORE MOVE that the Council instruct the Office of the Chief Legislative Analyst and the City Administrative Officer to report to Council in the feasibility of utilizing the unallocated balance

80WATCHES PART V (that's a 5 Faker)

Faker you are just arguing semantics now. What a bunch of bull. But you know, you do have one thing right, this issue went before the council without a peep.

In fact, the 2003 vote passed unanimously. Now remind me, wasn't AV on the council then???

Don't believe me? Here is a copy of the council vote... Okay, Okay, there was ONE person absent, must have been AV.

Meeting Date: October 03, 2003
Item Number: 50
Ayes Count: 14
Noes Count: 0
Absent Count: 1

Faker, again you are showing just how stupid you are. You argue that this money could have been spent on 20 new cops. Hardly.

If you knew anything about public safety funding, you would know that the hiring of police officers requires a reoccurring funding source - not a one time installment of cash.

So again, your attempt to make Nick look like he short-changed the city out of cops is both completely bogus and shows us again just how ignorant you are.

Faker give it up already. Wendy’s motion does attempt to find money for sworn personnel by finding cost saving efficiencies in city departments. But for the most part, those are one time funding sources, and you can’t hire officers off of a one time source. Sure, okay, you could hire them, but then you have to train them and keep paying their salary. A few million dollars will only last you so long.

So really, what her motion does – and it’s a good one - is call for an investigation into finding a recurring funding sources. Most of the money that’s found goes to training existing sworn personnel and providing them with equipment.

Shit Faker, are you done embarrassing yourself yet?
Again, you are forcing my hand. Don’t believe me? Here is an excerpt from her motion.

2. Direct the City Administrative Officer (CAO), Chief Legislative Analyst (CLA) and Personnel Department, in consultation with the Police Department, to develop a comprehensive plan to identify the resources needed to recruit, train and hire sufficient numbers of sworn personnel to achieve a force of 12,240 police officers, as soon as possible; and to report to Public Safety, Personnel, and Budget and Finance Committees of the Council within 60 days.
3. Direct the City Administrative Officer and the Chief Legislative Analyst to report to the Audits and Governmental Efficiency Committee within 45 days with recommendations on where the City can eliminate waste and inefficiency through eliminating unnecessary positions, consolidating departments with duplicative functions, and instituting policies that carefully consider how the City implements benefits and cost of living increases.

PARKER - really, honestly, you are making me laugh out loud. Now that you are caught with your pants down - and wow there isn't much down there - you are trying to say that we agree? This could be your worst story yet.

You know what your problem is - and always has been - it's your arrogance. You think you know everything without taking the time to do your research. You then throw un-researched garbage like this shit up on the blog and can't support it.

First, you claim that Nick pushed through the sale. When I point out the motion that has Garcetti and Cardenas's names on it - NOT NICKS - you come up with the great argument "Well then i suppose our versions differ depending what we believe the word 'push' means." Stellar. You really took my breath away with that one.


You want to say that Nick screwed the city buy short changing them out of $2 million when the reality is that he did the city and it's residents a favor. By getting the payment in cash, he allowed for immediate turn-over to programs that need it - like L.A. Bridges.


Then, you want to claim that the money could have been used to hire cops. When it turns out that can't be true, because you can't hire cops off of a one time installment, you want to point to Wendy's motion.

When it then turns out that Wendy's motion says the same thing I'm saying - which is essentially that the $2 million couldn't have been used - you say, "Good lord man -- am i right or wrong?"

I've answered that question already, you're wrong. Completely wrong, and I've shown it over and over again.

Go call Ace for help Faker, cause I'm getting tired of kicking the shit out of you.

Faker, are you there or "out to lunch?" (I guess that saying could go either way for you.)

So, as I promised, let's talk about some of those so-called "dirty contributions." The second name on your list is Doug Baba.

So, yes, he gave money to Nick, But wait, what's this? What's the third name listed under his contribution list?? Nooooo tell me it aint so, it's AV!!! The Mayor?? And he didn't just take money from Mr. Baba once, he's taken it numerous times adding up to a number in the thousands.

So it's not okay for Nick to take it but it's okay for AV? It doesn't really matter that AV took his money. What matters is the fact that you are trying to make these donors look like they are special to Nick, when they give - and have given - to a number of different candidates.

I can't wait to hear your explanation.

Oh yeah, and incase you don't believe me, here is just one page of research from the City Ethics Commission.

p.s. isn't it cute that we are using the same sources?

06/30/05 Doug Baba
(Produce Merchant, Coast Produce)
Los Angeles, CA 90016 Nick Pacheco
Council Member - CD14
1277206 - Pacheco For City Council A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 01/01/05-06/30/05]
$500.00 [Election: 11/02/05]

08/24/99 Douglas Baba
(Consultant, Baba & Associates)
Los Angeles, CA 90016 Lauro Pacheco
Council Member - CD14
990504 - Pacheco for City Council - G99 A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 07/01/99-12/31/99]
$500.00 [Election: 06/08/99]

04/06/05 Gwendolyn Baba
(Private Investor, Office of Gwendolyn Baba)
Los Angeles, CA 90027 Antonio Villaraigosa
1275257 - Villaraigosa for Mayor 2005 - GENERAL A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 04/03/05-04/30/05]
$250.00 [Election: 05/17/05]

03/02/01 Gwendolyn Baba
(Investor, General Partner)
Los Angeles, CA 90027 Joel Wachs
Mayor
990836 - Joel Wachs for Mayor A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 02/25/01-03/24/01]
$250.00 [Election: 04/10/01]

04/04/01 Gwendolyn Baba
(General Partner, Gwendolyn Baba)
Los Angeles, CA 90027 Antonio Villaraigosa
Mayor
991904 - Villaraigosa for Mayor A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 03/25/01-04/04/01]
$500.00 [Election: 04/10/01]

04/02/01 Gwendolyn Baba
(Homemaker)
Los Angeles, CA 90027 Conrado Terrazas
Council Member - CD13
991728 - Friends of Conrado Terrazas A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 03/25/01-04/04/01]
$150.00 [Election: 04/10/01]

05/23/01 Gwendolyn Baba
(General Partner, Gwendolyn Baba)
Los Angeles, CA 90027 Antonio Villaraigosa
Mayor
1234344 - Villaraigosa for Mayor - General 2001 A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 05/20/01-05/30/01]
$1,000.00 [Election: 06/05/01]

And, don't think I'm done! Then there is the name Richard Gardner on your list of supposed "dirty contributors."

Just like you, I used the Ethics Commission page - you've gotta love it - and it turns out that this guy has given to everybody on God's green earth Faker.

The list starts out with Padilla, and then lists the most recent donation to Nick taking place in 2002.

Look, the bottom line to all this is that your "pay to play," allegation is totally bogus crap.

You listed these people's names on this blog to imply that they are involved in some kind of pay to play scandal, and that they are somehow indebted to Nick.

In reality these are citizens who have the right to give money to who ever they want. That's their right, and they shouldn't be punished by a brainless and ball-less anonymous blogger like you.

Oh yeah, and incase you don't believe me, here are Mr. Gardners contributions - you'll probably see some of your friends there Faker including Wendy and Tom.

10/01/01 Richard Gardner
(President, The Gardner Group)
Los Angeles, CA 90021 Alex Padilla
Council Member - CD7
1230095 - -Alex Padilla Officeholder Account A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 07/01/01-12/31/01]
$500.00
02/08/02 Richard Gardner
(Real Estate, The Gardner Group)
Los Angeles, CA 90021 Wendy Greuel
Council Member - CD2
1241099 - Wendy Greuel for City Council - General A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 01/20/02-02/16/02]
$500.00 [Election: 03/05/02]

02/13/02 Richard Gardner
(President, The Gardner Group)
Los Angeles, CA 90021 Tony Cardenas(Los Angeles)
Council Member - CD6
1241217 - Tony Cardenas for City Council - General A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 01/20/02-02/16/02]
$500.00 [Election: 03/05/02]

05/22/02 Richard Gardner
(Catellus Development Corp., Realtor)
Los Angeles, CA 90021 Lauro Nick Pacheco
Council Member - CD14
1238918 - Pacheco for Council A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 01/01/02-06/30/02]
$500.00
06/05/02 Richard Gardner
(Real Estate, The Gardner Group)
Los Angeles, CA 90021 Wendy Greuel
Council Member - CD2
1237261 - Councilmember Wendy Greuel's Officeholder Committee A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 02/28/02-06/30/02]
$150.00
10/18/01 Richard Gardner
(Real Estate, Catellus Development Corp.)
Los Angeles, CA 90021 Tom Labonge Los Angeles
Council Member - CD4
1237970 - Tom LaBonge For City Council - General A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 10/18/01-12/31/01]
$250.00 [Election: 10/23/01]

11/02/01 Richard Gardner
(Real Estate, Catellus Development Corp.)
Los Angeles, CA 90021 Tony Cardenas [City Of Los Angeles]
Council Member - CD2
1237509 - Tony Cardenas For City Council A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 10/28/01-11/24/01]
$500.00 [Election: 12/11/01]

08/24/99 Richard Gardner
(Owner, The Gardner Group)
Los Angeles, CA 90021 Lauro Pacheco
Council Member - CD14
990504 - Pacheco for City Council - G99 A - Monetary
(IND - Individual)
[Period: 07/01/99-12/31/99]
$250.00 [Election: 06/08/99]

August 29, 2005 6:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You've just been schooled, Faker.

August 29, 2005 6:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is something happening in CD14? A council race?

August 29, 2005 7:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Does Villaraigosa have some family member, in-law, outlaw, godmamma once removed, in every nook and cranny at L.A. City?

What is L.A. becoming some kind of family business? Some people went nutso when Janice Hahn decided to run for an elected position in the adjoining branch of government to Jim Hahn, but these people are thick as fleas at the dog parke!? If they're not somehow related to Antonio, then they're kin to his top supporters and contributors.

If somebody ain't breaking SOME kind of rule with all this, then some news rules out to be writ!

August 29, 2005 7:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey, Lou Cypher, the devil can't be in the details - because you don't know any.

Yes, what a Lo(u)ser you are!

August 29, 2005 7:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Not a council "race," sarcastic at 7:00 p.m. -- another district disgrace.

Chains and bludgeons at 3 paces, and who's fault it it CD14 has to go through this garbage ALL over again, for the THIRD TIME in six years?

Yup, His-dizzoner himself. . . The "I will not run for mayor in 2005" Mayor of Los Angeles.

He loved the carnage he started in 2003 SO much, he wanted us to have to go through it again -- TWO MORE TIMES in the amount of time HE promised to serve.

Don't blame Pacheco or even Huizar. They're just taking their shots at the basket. But the DISTRICT is the basket-case, because ANTONIO never met a lie he couldn't top.

(P.S. Go ahead, ask me if we would have been better off sticking with Hahn, because that's what the party line says you should ask.(

SORRY, trick question -- THERE WERE AT LEAST TWO OTHER CANDIDATES COULD HAVE TAKEN HAHN OUT, without upsetting the CD14 apple cart ALL over again, plus maybe LAUSD, now). . . especially if AV would have BACKED one of them instead f back-STABBING all of them.

WHO loves you CD14? It ain't ANTONIO! Daddy don't leave you behind with a wicked step-caretaker like CD14 has now, if he REALLY loves you!

August 29, 2005 7:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7:01 PM I agree with you. Everywhere you turn and learn on the next appts. you find out it is a relative or relative of a campaign contributor. It all stinks!

We need another type of party to govern los angeles. Not the democratic party, any other party. Ill even settle for the green party.

August 29, 2005 7:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Why do Huizar & Pacheco office not accept new volunteers?

August 29, 2005 7:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

7.06. Huizar does and I am sure Pacheco does. So, get a f---ing life.

August 29, 2005 7:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

jennifer lopez or gloria molinario

August 29, 2005 7:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Welcome to Los Angeles - the World's Largest 'Mom and Pop' Business!

(Hey Dad, I thought it was my turn to drive the city -- you SAID I could!)

But, it's better than "lobbyists," right?

Right?

(Why was that? OH YEAH, "undue influence.") NO problem with that with family members... nope, nope nope.

August 29, 2005 7:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Frito Lay

August 29, 2005 7:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm selling my car for $100 email me.

albin parrrrrraa
President of El Sereno

August 29, 2005 7:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What was the deal in Florida in 2000, folks said Bush won the state because FAMILY MEMBER Jeb exercised INFLUENCE over the outome.

Good thing we got rid of all those DAMN lobbyists, and got EXTENDED FAMILY instead.

August 29, 2005 7:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

KFC

August 29, 2005 7:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

80 NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH ORGANIZATIONS

. . . still waiting, but not holding my breath!

August 29, 2005 7:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Philosophy 10001

"You allow everyone to grab one piece from the cookie jar, feast together, at the end, they are thankful and embedded."

August 29, 2005 7:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Whose protecting CD14 while the 80 neighborhood watches are in hiding and LAPD is understaffed?

Just wondering!

August 29, 2005 7:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Philosophy 20001:

A journey of 20 miles in Los Angeles begins and ends with gridlock (in between it gets worse).

August 29, 2005 7:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

FYI: Yesterday, I thought my suspicious looking neighbor was a neighborhood watch captain or leader, but after following him I noticed he was neither, he had just gone to Food For Less For milk at 11 pm.

I am still looking for my local neighborhood watch, has to be one on my block, there's 80 right?

August 29, 2005 7:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Philosophy 1002

Bring all your valuables to 1st street and I will turn them into gold.

Jose Huizar

August 29, 2005 7:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Philosophy (negative)-100

"If you want to dream, close your eyes and imagine 80 neighborhood watch organizations created."

August 29, 2005 7:53 PM  

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restrict anyone's opportunities
for ascertaining uninterrupted
existence for their quintessence.

There is a time for everything,
a season for every activity
under heaven. A time to be
born and a time to die. A
time to plant and a time to
harvest. A time to kill and
a time to heal. A time to
tear down and a time to
rebuild. A time to cry and
a time to laugh. A time to
grieve and a time to dance.
A time to scatter stones
and a time to gather stones.
A time to embrace and a
time to turn away. A time to
search and a time to lose.
A time to keep and a time to
throw away. A time to tear
and a time to mend. A time
to be quiet and a time to
speak up. A time to love
and a time to hate. A time
for war and a time for peace.


Best wishes for continued ascendancy,
Howdy


P.S. One thing of which I am sure is
that the common culture of my youth
is gone for good. It was hollowed out
by the rise of ethnic "identity politics,"
then splintered beyond hope of repair
by the emergence of the web-based
technologies that so maximized and
facilitated cultural choice as to make
the broad-based offerings of the old
mass media look bland and unchallenging
by comparison."

August 29, 2005 7:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't understand 7:56 No entiendo papa.

August 29, 2005 7:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Have any of you had platano frito? Is it good with rice or just dessert

August 29, 2005 8:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Any truth to the rumor that AV's got Skelton's wife on the short list for some minor commission... hoping no one will notice because they use different last names. Maybe it's El Pueblo, to take the place of the e-mail guy? She's supposed to be some kind of political fundraiser - Pueblo could use help with that, (but I hear she's not that really very good at it unless Parke's actually got the same candidate, then it's just a twofer).

August 29, 2005 8:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The XYZ's of Neighborhood Watches in CD14

http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/2005/04/today-in-council.html

(Chief Faker's Promise. . . )

August 29, 2005 8:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

To 80 Neighborhood watch person,

Read this:

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and LAPD Chief William Bratton joined nearly 800 residents ofCouncil District 14 to celebrate “National Night Out” in Northeast Los Angeles in the eveningon Tuesday, August 2, 2005.At Luther Burbank Middle School in Northeast Los Angeles, residents of Council District 14joined together to celebrate and promote safety in their neighborhoods and schools. Theprogram included remarks by Villaraigosa, Bratton, LAUSD Police Chief Alan Kerstein, andLAUSD Board Members David Tokofsky and José Huizar, followed by a “Walk for Peace”through the neighborhood. Power 106’s tha’ Goodfellas Romeo and Dejai were also on handto entertain the crowd.National Night Out is a nationwide annual celebration of police-community partnerships,crime prevention programs, and neighborhood camaraderie that together makeneighborhoods safer. National Night Out started over 20 years ago with the request thatneighbors turn on their front porch lights to send a message to criminals that theirneighborhood was active and had a neighborhood watch.During Villaraigosa’s term as Councilmember of the 14thDistrict, he was proud to organizeand assist in the formation of 89 new neighborhood watch organizations. Members of theseand other community organizations committed to partnering with police to reduce crimeparticipated in the evening’s activities.# # #NEWS ADVISORY FROM CD14City Hall, 200 North Spring Street, Room 425, Los Angeles, CA 90012PHONE (213) 485-3335 ?FAX (213) 847-0680 ?http://cd14.lacity.org

http://www.lacity.org/council/cd14/newsupdates/cd14newsupdates243431120_08022005.pdf

August 29, 2005 8:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

PUBLIC INFORMATION
"NEW NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH SIGNS AVAILABLE"

Neighborhood Watch Programs are very effective against crime. The LAPD and the Department of Transportation have recently devised new procedures for establishing Neighborhood Watch signs throughout the city. All signs must adhere to the attached specifications. Signs can not be altered or have any special logos or verbage, such as names of block clubs, neighborhood watch groups, neighborhood council names and/or logos. Here are the new Neighborhood Watch Sign

http://www.lacp.org/

August 29, 2005 8:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Neighborhood Events

Interested in starting a block club in your neighborhood? Contact Senior Lead Officer Ryan Whiteman at 213-847-5944.
Regularly scheduled block club meetings will continue. If you would like to find out if there is an existing Neighborhood Watch in your area, contact Senior Lead Officer Ryan Whiteman at 213-847-5944.
Do you have information regarding a crime that occurred in your neighborhood? If so, call the Southwest Division Crime Tip Hotline at 213-485-7492.
Do you have a gang related problem in your neighborhood? If so, call the Southwest Gang Enforcement Unit at 323-290-2384.

August 29, 2005 8:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

JIM HAHN VILLARAIGOS DEBATE

"Villaraigosa later talked up his own track record at City Hall, saying he had created 80 neighborhood watch groups, organized more than 6,000 volunteers and brought people together to take back their neighborhoods."

August 29, 2005 8:23 PM  

Blogger Chief Parker said:

Hey Anon 6:22pm

While i appreciate you reposting everything "80 watches" wrote, what was missing was my response to each and every one of them.

1. Fact, Nick Pacheco started the whole Produce Mart Sale.

2. Fact, this land giveaway exists in CD 14.

3. Fact, the City could have recieved an extra $2 million that could've purchased 2,000 more library books, paved several miles of new road, resurfaced twice that much and hire 20 new police officers.

4. Fact, in 2003 Nick received thousands of dollars in contributions (their payoff) for the sweetheart deal he got them, instead of being a good budget caretaker as Budget Committee Chairman and getting the City (you and I) more revenue.

5. Fact, Nick has recieved as of the last report $10,000 dollars in campaign contributions from a total reported of $79,000 plus.

Thats approximately 1/8th of his cash coming from one property, one deal, one pay to play.

Jim Hahn raised well over 4.6 million dollars (primary, general) and 1/8th of his money is the equivalent of $575,000.

If you don't think Nick Pacheco knows which side his bread is buttered, you are dead wrong.

MMmm Mmmm Pasting Pay to Play on my toast is oh so tasty!

August 29, 2005 8:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

No wonder I couldn't get Steve at Parke's office on the 'phone this afternoon, he was busy cobbling together Chief Faker's response.

$18 million cash in the hand beats a promise of $20 million down the road anytime.

On the other hand, a promise is hard currency in Skeltonland.

August 29, 2005 9:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Chief Parker

You're just making yourself out to be more of an idiot. I guess Huizar is taking his cue from you.

Lou Cypher,
La Colectiva never changed their name. Matea Gold reported that in the Times because that is the story she got from Steve Barkan and Parke. She didn't even bother looking into the state records, if she did she would find that no name change occurred - there are documents that must be filed for this sort of thing. Do some research next time and don't believe everything you read in the Times, more often than not they are just more of Parke Skelton's lies.

If this is all you guys have against Nick, Huizar is in much more trouble than the polls indicate.

August 29, 2005 10:30 PM  

Anonymous Joseph Mahma said:

Hey 6:22...

Paste Paste Paste...I know you must either be Nick or Irkedteaga because your writing voice is the same.

Your spinning of inside politics..
Your spinning of insider deals...
Your spinning of insider city hall.

All you say is that we are too dumb to understand city hall politics...like Nick said directly to Tammy. You know its true. She called you on it Nicky.

You are fantastic at saying these motions are not indicative of what Nicky did, yet the other options you cut and paste indicate that other councilmembers had complete control over your district Nicky/Irkedteaga.

Please decide...did you lead? Or did you follow? Cause if you followed then you are exactly what we don't want. But if you led, then you are showing that other council members took care of your business, which means you couldn't make the hard decision. But that doesn't surprise me.

August 29, 2005 10:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Who is this 80 watches guy?? VERY TIRED OF HIS POSTINGS. Administrator should consider him spam. Always same shit. Who cares??

August 29, 2005 10:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Chief Parker,

You are even a bigger political amateur than I thought.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda.

And Antonio could have brokered a better deal in the union dispute that would have saved LA some dough.

Big woop!

The fact is, the CA Supreme Court approved the produce mart sale.

You see, there is added value in having a stable family-run group of small businessmen and women keep their traditions alive. That's worth more than $2M to the city.

Could you imagine if the jewelry district, the flower district or the garment district just up and left?

Why should the produce district? You see, there is value there.

What would have Richard Meruelo (the alternative buyer) put there anyway?

Or would he have sold the site to LAUSD thanks to Sleazy Huizy's influence?

Ah, but that is another story...

August 29, 2005 11:01 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:01


You seem to have much information that us voters are not aware of, enlighten us.

August 29, 2005 11:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Joseph, Tammy is pissed at you and wants you to phone her.

August 29, 2005 11:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

More kids from the 17th floor.

August 29, 2005 11:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

As long as Chief Faker popped in just enough from his hourly briefing from the Huizar cell, to explain further how transfixed he is on the POSSIBLE $2 million Pacheco supposedly "lost" the city, why not talk about the $2 million (SAME $$ amount) in discretionary funds that CD14's Villaraigosa leftovers have been HORDING from the district -- in some cases for nearly two years.

While Lisa Sournote and Jim Dickhead and Jimmy Blackheart ran from community meeting to community meeting for two years claiming poverty, and in some cases TAKING money from CD14 organizations, they SAT on a PAY-FOR-CAMPAIGN nestegg of $2 million in REAL money (not pie in the sky). And STILL DO.

If there's a loss to ANYONE, it's a REAL loss to communities like El Sereno, Highland Park, Boyle Heights, and Garvanza, of benefits and conveniences that could have made living there just a BIT easier if the Scrooges and trolls that infest CD14 offices had just ONCE, said to a community "what do you need" we have $2 million that we were SUPPOSED TO BE SPENDING $1 million each year, since 2003, on YOU.

SHUT UP about the RUMORED $2 million you blame Pacheco about, Parker. Until YOUR perpetual candidate's team even spends the MINIMUM of their discretionary funds on the district, any "paper" loss you want to gin up is pure hypocrisy.

When Pacheco was in office he spent ALL the discretionary funds, and then went and found MORE in other accounts when it was needed to improve CD14. Villaraigosa's people have spent FAR less than HALF as much on the communities of CD14 each year in office than Pacheco's people did. And getting THAT was like pulling Alligator teeth.

WHO ARE THEY SAVING it for -- THEIR campaign contributors?

HELL, yes!

August 30, 2005 12:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The PPIC polls are ridiculous! They have these polls which the media takes as the WHOLE TRUTH and publish it as evidence without researching who is behind the PPIC.

They are all friends of Villaraigosa, Nunez, Padilla, etc... Cynthia Tellez one of the founders is Bob Hertzbergs wife. How biased is this shit!

August 30, 2005 1:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Setting aside for half a tick the obvious fact that the "I started 80 Neighborhood Watch organizations in CD14 last year," claim by Villaraigosa is continued evidence that our current mayor is unethical and untrustworthy...

CONSIDER for a moment the safety and security implications of this brazen falsehood:

People all over CD14 now assume they have neighborhood watches all around them and must be safer than they previously were. People who might have otherwise considered starting such an organization, now assume someone ELSE is on watch, because Villaraigosa TOLD THEM SO.

They can let down their guard, be less observant, and as a result become an EASIER TARGET, because there are now THOUSANDS more alert eyes watching the streets of the district (AV said so - it MUST be true!)

SO, by LYING to enhance his CV and account for massive amounts if personal time off the job the opast two years, our current mayor has now made CD14 LESS SAFE than when he took office. (AND, here, Chief Faker has knowingly played along with the lie, as if it was some kind of GAME to amuse himself on a slow blog weekend.)

For this alone, Villaraigosa deserves to be recalled and removed from office, just as much as anyone who lies about their fitness for any job, once their lack of true qualification and perfomance is discovered.

Words mean something; blatant lies like this threaten our safety!

August 30, 2005 2:36 AM  

Anonymous lou cypher said:

wow. the tinfoil hat is out in force.

fact is, no amount of your cutting and pasting actually DISPROVED anything i wrote.

and are you actually so NAIVE to believe that just because nick's name wasn't on the motion he had nothing to do with the produce mart sale? i guess the good vendors at the mart just decided, one day, out of the goodness of their hearts to give nick a ton of cash. cash they made because of his advocacy for the sale.

so keep throwing your little names and pasting your useless motions.

your public serpent is going down.

*cue screeches of pain and indignity from the nickwraiths.*

August 30, 2005 9:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I hate your name Lou whatever, The meruelo land scandal was horrendous, Villaraigosa did not have is name on the papers, but we know it was him. He help broker the deal..

Same shit dude. What comes around goes around, play your cards ethically and stop spreading lies on Pacheco. You deserve to be underground as your name refers parke skeletonon

August 30, 2005 10:06 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Too bad no one will ever read your "snappy" (and inaccurate) comeback, LOU-zer. On the blog, he who gets the LAST word don't get read!

Ha!

August 30, 2005 10:16 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I just heard that Eric Hacopian got a contract from Meruelo. Is this true? is this the payoff to dump Nick?

August 30, 2005 3:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jose Huizar is #1 for CD 14!!!

August 30, 2005 10:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Start recalling the entire CD 14 election now! It is total BULLSHIT the candidate forums DO NOT recognize all of the qualified candidates!

Our choices are Pachueco and Sleezy Huizy?

Give us all a fucken break!

Both are unqualified and the neighbors dog could do a better job!

RECALL CD 14 ELECTION NOW!

August 30, 2005 10:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Lou, Pacheco, and those who remained silent,

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct?

No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush.

So they will fall among the fallen;

they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

August 30, 2005 11:56 PM  

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