Is There AUDIO TAPE of Rocky Informing City Council of Pierce's Hazing Photos?
ZD WORLD EXCLUSIVE: While discussing with a media insider how City Council is trying to keep me out of City Hall and how Rouge Cop Officer Landry came after me (including a little "bonus" police brutality/excessive force), the insider took the opportunity to provide me with some (as of yet) unreported inside information. (So thanks to City Council and Officer Landry for helping me discover this information.)
HERE IT IS: I'm told that although Los Angeles City Council has publicly stated that (in Daily News' words), "Some council members immediately pointed fingers at Delgadillo's office for failing to share the evidence of Pierce's hazing with them before they endorsed the payout. Had they known of Pierce's pranks, many council members said, they wouldn't have agreed to the $2.7 million payout", ZD HAS BEEN TOLD THERE IS AUDIO TAPE OF THE COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE ROCKY INFORMS COUNCIL OF THE HAZING PHOTOS IN WHICH PIERCE TAPED DOWN AND SHAVED A FELLOW FIREFIGHTER!!!
EXCUSE ME: Did you say there is AUDIO of Rocky informing Council of the prank, even though they are hiding behind the rational that they were NOT informed by Rocky? ZD was told, "YES!"
Perhaps this quote from Daily News will provide some insight: "And in a rare request, Chief Deputy City Attorney Richard Llewellyn Jr. asked the City Council to waive attorney-client privilege so his office could set the record straight and speak publicly about what information the council was provided on Pierce's hazing history."
So maybe "setting the record straight" means showing a little iTunes podcast of the Claims Board committee meeting where Rocky is breaking down the REAL 411 for the shady Councilmembers whose only ethical standard isn't "ethics" itself, but "is it legal?" (Referring to Garcetti's "saving grace" over the shady Prop. R verbiage. Aka: A judge said, although "confusing and deceiving, it's not illegal.)
We can only hope the audio surfaces a lot faster than the Steve Irwin video, if it does indeed exist, and I'm told it does. But, of course "Mr. Ethics" himself, Eric Garcetti, will be doing everything in his power to prevent the truth from coming out, as usual. Because as long as it ain't illegal, he's gonna try to get away with it.
I hope I don't suffer further police brutality at the hands of (soon to never be seen inside City Council chambers after the holidays) Rouge Cop Officer Landry for this story.
www.ZumaDogg.com for all YouTube videos and previous Mayor Sam posts. (And try and hit me up with a credit card/paypal donation so I can show up at City Hall Tuesday to blast the HELL out this story. Otherwise, Council may get a pass.)
UPDATE: ALL COMMITTEE MEETINGS ARE AUDIO TAPED FOR PUBLIC RECORD. (See comment 5 on this story.)
HERE IT IS: I'm told that although Los Angeles City Council has publicly stated that (in Daily News' words), "Some council members immediately pointed fingers at Delgadillo's office for failing to share the evidence of Pierce's hazing with them before they endorsed the payout. Had they known of Pierce's pranks, many council members said, they wouldn't have agreed to the $2.7 million payout", ZD HAS BEEN TOLD THERE IS AUDIO TAPE OF THE COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE ROCKY INFORMS COUNCIL OF THE HAZING PHOTOS IN WHICH PIERCE TAPED DOWN AND SHAVED A FELLOW FIREFIGHTER!!!
EXCUSE ME: Did you say there is AUDIO of Rocky informing Council of the prank, even though they are hiding behind the rational that they were NOT informed by Rocky? ZD was told, "YES!"
Perhaps this quote from Daily News will provide some insight: "And in a rare request, Chief Deputy City Attorney Richard Llewellyn Jr. asked the City Council to waive attorney-client privilege so his office could set the record straight and speak publicly about what information the council was provided on Pierce's hazing history."
So maybe "setting the record straight" means showing a little iTunes podcast of the Claims Board committee meeting where Rocky is breaking down the REAL 411 for the shady Councilmembers whose only ethical standard isn't "ethics" itself, but "is it legal?" (Referring to Garcetti's "saving grace" over the shady Prop. R verbiage. Aka: A judge said, although "confusing and deceiving, it's not illegal.)
We can only hope the audio surfaces a lot faster than the Steve Irwin video, if it does indeed exist, and I'm told it does. But, of course "Mr. Ethics" himself, Eric Garcetti, will be doing everything in his power to prevent the truth from coming out, as usual. Because as long as it ain't illegal, he's gonna try to get away with it.
I hope I don't suffer further police brutality at the hands of (soon to never be seen inside City Council chambers after the holidays) Rouge Cop Officer Landry for this story.
www.ZumaDogg.com for all YouTube videos and previous Mayor Sam posts. (And try and hit me up with a credit card/paypal donation so I can show up at City Hall Tuesday to blast the HELL out this story. Otherwise, Council may get a pass.)
UPDATE: ALL COMMITTEE MEETINGS ARE AUDIO TAPED FOR PUBLIC RECORD. (See comment 5 on this story.)
Labels: proposition r
Posted by Zuma Dogg @ 11/25/2006 12:25:00 PM
42 Comments:
Clowncil are a bunch of liars along with Midget Mayor.
You know Zuma Dogg you've become the biggest idiot more so then the clowncil members. All you do is whine like a woman, they hurt me." There are a lot of people who wish that cop would have kicked your sissy ass. THERE IS NO VIDEO. Those meetings aren't taped and in fact it was a closed door meeting moron. Rocky's rep has asked the clowncil to waive privilege so all the facts would come out. Mayor Sam here we go again with a total loser posting long threads not making sense. The blog was better without Zuma, Matt Dowd (isnt he illegal) and the woman Michael Hunt who can't get the money for his surgery. I don't like clowncil members but by far these 3 stooges as they're being called are the biggest sissies, complainers, immature idiots this city has seen. They don't have any class and use fake names during public comment. They have teenage mentalities and an immaturity level. Get a life!!!
1:51 Wendy, go take care of your ADDHD brat and stop blogging.
1:51 PM,
This may come as a surprise to many people, but Zuma Dogg does not have the luxury of being able to control Matt "Guitar" Dowd or Michael "Shea Butter Man" Hunt. They are strong personalities in their own right, and do and say what they want and have their own topics of interest each day, that I have no control or input into at all. (So if you want to be credible, now that you know this, only judge your opinion of me, based on what I say on TV 35, my own public access show on Time Warner (L.A. & Ventura County), hours and hours of continued phone calls on AM Talk Radio and the stories I post on Mayor Sam.
So if you don't wanna be the whining, crybaby moron; please comment on your opposition/clarifications to actual issues and stories I speak/post. Because for all your rants about ZD (and now Matt & Mike), you haven't said one thing that helps the City.
And just so you know, I still appriciate your "THERE IS NO VIDEO" comment. I follow-up on stuff like that, and although you are so angry YOU could have been the one to keep a post short by limiting it to those four words, that allowed me to follow-up and post an update to the story. (See story for update.)
All City Council closed-door sessions are taped. However, it is not easy to get to listen to them.
A councilmember, not a staffer, can listen to the tape to remind themselves what was said.
The closed sessions are attended by a large number of council staff, so you can find one who talks.
A court order.
Or the City Council can vote to make the tape public.
The fact that the City Attorney is asking for the City Council to do just that is probably a pretty good indication that Rocky thinks that some Councilmembers aren't telling the truth.
This wouldn't be the first time that a councilmember or two has done one thing behind closed doors and said the opposite to the taxpayers after the meeting. They hope that the tapes never surface. And legally the other members who know the truth can't say anything.
What you need in this case for one among them to be willing to tell the truth about what was said by the City Attorney and incur the wrath of the others.
3:20 PM,
Hooooooody Hoooooooo! You are my hero for that post, y'all.
Why isn't anyone reporting on the September jury trial of LAFD firefighter Gary Mellinger?
Maybe that will explain why the City Council approved a settlement in his case this week, except Zine.
Then, how about reporting on all the other LAFD lawsuits that are pending.
The truth will come out if all the lawsuits make it to a jury trial and the inner workings of the LAFD administration under FC Bamattre and his Deputy Chief Andrew Fox will continue to be exposed.
Who said that the settlement of 2.7 million would be cheaper than a jury trial in the case of Tennie Pierce?
Time will tell.
3:33 At this point, taxpayers are willing to take this to court. It's the principle of it all and once approve this type of case, you have hundreds lined up for same payout. City will go broke. If you stop the nonsense, we can save our city money in the long run. I'd rather pay for one lengthy trial then approve the Pierce Payout and pay 300 million in future con cases. He is a fraud and he knows it.
the first step in halting the nonsense is to get rid of bamattre, who failed to successfully implement the 1996 audit and his handpicked yes-men, andrew fox, emile mack and mario rueda who failed in their responsibilities to implement the recommendations.
mayor: what's the holdup?
"Choice" photos of LAFD brass to come out soon?
See comment #6 (mesa custom furnishings, john mcdonald)on Daily News contributer Jennifer Solis' blogspot: "Hitting the Politically Correct Lottery"
www.jennifersolis.blogspot.com
mesa custom furnishings said...
anyway, these are the facts of the case that came out today at genie harrison’s press conference. she's pierce's lawyer.
keep in mind, the case never rested solely on the fact that pierce was “pranked” and the question of whether or not the act was , in itself, racist. the case hinged on a) a cover-up by the LAFD involving the investigation and b) allowing hostile behavior to be perpetrated against mr. pierce in the weeks and months that followed. in legal terms, it’s called “intentional infliction of emotional distress and retaliation.”
according to employment law in CA, robert, an employer is responsible for maintaining a healthy work environment. those damning audits in 1994 and 2006 suggest the LAFD is anything but disneyland. chief bamattre said as much, agreeing with the findings.
some points now, and keep in mind this is from sworn depositions:
1) arevalo, who fed pierce the dogfood, used racist language with another black FF months prior
2) arevalo had serious problems with another black FF at the station, a woman. real treasure, this guy
3) a captain bought the dogfood
4) a black battalion chief wrote the initial disciplinary reports re: both white captains involved. the reports somehow disappeared. new, altered reports were written by a white supervsior and the black battallion chief’s name was added without his authorization.
this is a huge point, jim do you want to take a moment to go back and read that one again? oh, and your LAFD chums came to this conclusion, not some outside agency.
5) all the involved FFs met for a private breakfast to discuss how to handle the incident. first time ever they all met at one time outside the station, and the only guy not invited was the new FF, a black guy.
6) when pierce initially tried to come back on the job, the only station they’d allow him to go was the same place - #5 - where the incident occurred
sadly jim, the LAFD found that there was an effort to cover-up the incident. they came to that conclusion themselves and admitted it on the record. additionally, numerous incidents took place where FFs rode pierce mercilessly, even in front of supervisors. all this is well-documented.
finally, while the photos do not look good, the fact is they are not the smoking-gun KFI radio and other dinosaurs like yourself would like people to believe. as you know, hazing was and is standard practice in the LAFD, and the current photos of pierce’s conduct are more than 10 years old. each case is judged on its own merits; just because pierce pranked someone else does not automatically discredit his claim. in sworn testimony, all the other FFs at #5 said that he did nothing to any of them that was related to this “prank.” LAFD management also found that nothing tennie pierce had done in the past had anything to do with him being fed dogfood. it was completely irrelevant.
on a side note: i hear there are several “choice” photos of LAFD brass about to come out. maybe some pals? stay tuned!!!
5:00PM All this scribe doesn't justify a payout to a con artist. Why should the city pay for a change of heart. At that pace, we will pay every single employee for the city for a change of heart.
He did his 10 years prior. Once they did it to him, he cries wolf. Typical of Some individuals to do this.
What clowncil members are trying to distract the public from is another frivlous laswsuit by Stanely Miller on the supplemental agenda for Tuesday. Stanely originally sued for $25 million now the city wants to settle for $450,000. The LAPD officer lost his job even though the DA said there wasn't enough evidence to charge him. "Miller pleaded guilty to both charges against him and admitted two prior felony convictions in 2000 and 2002. Miller also admitted there was a factual basis for his guilty plea. Miller was arrested early June 23 after leading police on a 21-mile high-speed chase from South Los Angeles into Compton. Police said he was driving a car stolen a short time earlier in Compton."
somebody's going to release lafd gold badge prankster photos?
if there are photos out there of this pierce fellow, it's safe to assume there are also photos of other firefighters. .
Zuma there is no committee called CLAIMS BOARD. It wasn't Rocky who gave the clowncil members the briefing behind closed doors it was Rocky's rep. Damn, get your facts straight before you shoot off your mouth. Now Rocky's rep has asked to waived privilege because clowncil is blaming his office for not seeing all the evidence. The truth is those idiot clowncil members saw the photos and still voted to settle because the racist Parks, Wesson kept saying it was a black thing. Watch for the blacks to come out in force at Tuesday's meeting playing the race card. These are the same idiots who said O.J.
Daily News in today's opinion piece sticks up for neighborhood councils and really blasts clowncil members.
dailynews.com
Rules of disorder
There are worse things than unruly neighborhood councils
Why is no one here calling for heads at the LAFD?
At what point are the bosses held accountable for the mess they've helped create, grow, and now fester? The place is a mess, the rank-and-file divided (unless, of course, you are lucky enough not to be black, gay or female), and its reputation - at least when it comes to internal relations - about to be in tatters.
Yes, firefighters are heroic, hardworking men and women who deserve respect and praise. They can also occasionally be - like some lawyers, doctors, garbagemen and bloggers - compelete assholes.
Can we at least hold that small minority to task?
8:25AM,
Sorry I said "Rocky" instead of "Rocky's rep", douchebag, or Claims "BOARD" instead of Claims "Committee", but I obviously hit the nail on the head with this story and thanks for helping to confirm it when you say, "The truth is those idiot clowncil members saw the photos and still voted to settle."
Hey bigshot smart guy, if you knew all of this, why didn't YOU expose it. (Cause you are an angry crybaby who contributes nothing. Way to sit on your ass.) Maybe you can find a spelling error, too.
Thanks for backing up my story though.
What about all the other pending LAFD lawsuits?
How many are there? What are they claiming?
Who is being sued? For what?
The rank and file agree - it's time for Bamattre to go. And his sidekick Andy Fox too.
Zuma, I have a spelling correction to make on the post for this thread, and I'm not some anonymous poster who has such a lack of imagination that he (or she) can't think of an original posting name for himself or herself, such as 8:25 AM.
When describing the cop on this thread, please do not use the word "rouge". "Rouge" is women's makeup (partly). I believe the word you wish to use is "rogue", which is what the cops involved with the Rampart scandal became known as, and the majority of council members may have become.
WHO is ultimately responsible/accountable for the systemic years long "mess" at the LAFD?
Who oversees Bamattre?
The Fchief and those person(s) should be fired, thrown out of office.
FROM LARRY ELDER
Los Angeles firefighter's ploy discredits black advances
Man accused of using race card to cash in on the efforts of the people who overthrew Jim Crow America.
This brings us back to Mr. "Rin Tin" Tennie Pierce. When the next Veterans Day comes around, think about how your legal battle trivializes the grit, determination and honor with which black men and women withstood insult, degradation and abuse during Jim Crow America. They stood tall and demonstrated by word and deed that black men and women -- like my dad -- considered themselves Americans, not African-Americans, who only wanted an opportunity to show their ability.Your crass, manipulative use of the race card for money insults countless men and women who endured indignities, marched and died, in order to provide you the right to work as a firefighter -- an opportunity historically denied to qualified black men and women.
You, sir, are a disgrace.
Can I tell anyone here how tired I am of the word, clowncil? You surely know how to run a funny word into the ground and make it sound not funny anymore.
Zuma Dogg is not an idiot, a whiner, a sissy, a loser or a moron.
His post was NOT a "long thread that didn't make sense".
There are NO groups of people out there who wish the cop would have hurt ZD. Are you out of your fucking mind?
You should remember how small of a percentage of the voting population watch city hall meetings and then just shut up. Your venom is repulsive. Your jealousy of ZD is disguting.
YOU are the loser with your incessant whining about ZD. You who is "whining like a woman".
To Stephen Foster,
Not to mention that women don't even use the word, rouge, anymore. We say blush now.
A blush brushing woman
I agree. Enough already. The word "clowncil." It is really annoying after reading it over and over.
Keep the facts comin', not the poor humor.
I hope Officer Landry SUES THE SHIT out of this asshole Zuma Dogg for his claims of abuse.
SAM... GET RID OF THIS MUTT
DISGUSTING...Don't get me wrong there were lots of people who use to support Zuma. However, if you watch weekend city clowncil meetings he's all over the place, still acts immature and screams like a teenager. What grown man behaves that way? Zuma is intelligent when he speaks on the issues without all the b.s. and immature rantings and noise making at the podium. IF he wants to be taken seriously then start acting mature.
You're dead ass wrong. I DO watch the council meetings. That's how I know how wrong you are. You can't hold him responsible for the other two just because they showed up at the same time on the same issue. Sometimes they ride together and some time ago, I do believe ZD was trying to distance himself from them.
Zuma rocks!
I'm going to go give him a donation tonight just to irritate you.
But Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa has said the city cannot afford to award the same contract to other employees and noted terms were negotiated by the previous administration
Susan Rusnak, chair of business development with the Long Beach Economic Development Commission, said the positive economic impact of the airport demands that the EIR be certified and terminal modernization begin.
Is David Pierson of L.A.TIMES related to Donna Pierson (Paul Rusnak's partner) of RUSNAK AUTO SALES?
I heard court tv is looking into airing the Tennie Pierce trial if the city council lets it go that far.
The John and Ken radio show is local, but court tv will take this story nationwide (international?)
The LAFD will be on trial and the big question will be: who's been minding the store?
Finally, we will show how idiotic our legal system is. When you have a crybaby fireman cry wolf over the same crap he did to others before. It's like a rapist sueing another rapist, but he can't be sued because he did it 10 years ago. I wish all the guys he pulled pranks on sued him for racial discrimination where A Black man hurt a white man...
"I had a 1.4 grade average. I had dropped out of school before that.”
Antonio Villaraigosa
Yeaaaa!!! Our mayor's da bomb. I have a 1.6 and proud of it.
ELAC student
1:58 PM, I had a sneaking suspicion that the word "blush" was the current substitute for "rouge", but was uncertain.
I wonder, does the "constable" on duty who had the incident with Zuma use it?
Well Mr. Foster, that is not for me to judge. If he wears it to City Hall, I get to laugh but that's about it.
Perhaps the basher of Zuma Dogg sits at home applying "blush". He does like to complain about whining women. As you well know, in the field of psychiatry that is called projection. He complains that it is ZD that is whining like a woman, all the while whining like a woman himself. I now believe he is applying his blush and lipstick and knows full well it is he who is whining.
1:40 PM and 3:10 PM, I agree, the term "clowncil" has been run into the ground. As City Hall is in close proximity to Hollywood, maybe this "dog and pony" act needs a new name... may I suggest: "Tiny Tony & his City Bozos"?
11:32 PM,
"Blush" might be a possibility in reference to the Zuma basher - however, I have no knowledge of psychiatry.
The City Council votes to pay $2.7 million for a can of dog food? Wow!
Joe Ramallo worked under Alex Penela -Florida. Sounds similiar to Villaraigosa & Travel Traders-Florida.
June 07, 2004
Quote of the Day
"The single most treacherous and dishonest person I dealt with."
-- Al Gore on Miami-Dade Mayor Alex Penelas(D), quoted by the Miami Herald.
Villaraigosa asks us to trust him when he hires (Joe Ramallo) individual organized illegal fundraisers, worked under Alex Penelas?
blah blah blah
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