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Wednesday, September 20, 2006

City Council Stands Up To ACLU on Behalf of LAPD and The City

It was a confusing day at City Hall. In the nearly six months since I've attended the City Council meetings, about three days a week, I have never seen more television and radio reporters, more photographers and public comment speakers showing up on such a hot issue, and walking away more confused. Chief Bratton was even in attendance, seated in the front row, so I had to take the second row, today. (Tune into TV 35 Sunday afternoon.)

I'm serious when I say all in attendance were confused as to what just happened and what it means. One Councilmember wanted it clarified exactly what happened, because the Councilmember wasn't even sure everyone knew what they were voting on. (And that's no slam, because it is confusing.) But in the end, I think it is the first big step the City has taken toward addressing the homeless people, camped out in tents, on the Skid Row area of Downtown Los Angeles.

Previously, there has been an injunction preventing LAPD from arresting the homeless for sleeping on the sidewalk. Then the ACLU (I even saw Carol Soble for the first time) reached an "agreement" with the City that will actually prevent/disallow/ban/stop LAPD from arresting the homeless on the streets that homeowners and buisnesses are scared to invest in, and others are leaving, between the hours of 9p-6a. (Does that include holidays?) And today, City Council was going to decide, behind closed-door session, whether to appeal the agreement in court, meaning FIGHT to allow LAPD to enforce the streets of Los Angeles, 24 hours a day. (Without allowing an "anything goes" policy from 9p-6a.)

This guy, Tom, was there representing the business/building owners in the area who say these "tent cities" from 9p-6a do enough damage to property, let alone scares away all the investors/people who we want to attract to our Convention Center and future City Projects, to last an entire day.

Both sides felt it was a victory, and both conceeded to compromise. All the TV reports you know form 2,4,5,7,11,13 were there with their cameras huddled around first Tom, then Carol. I just happened to be elbow to elbow with Carol as the media surrounded her, so when she said, "We don't want to criminalize people for sleeping on the sidewalk", Zuma Dogg was quick to retort, "What about all the drugs?" And her reply was, "Go away Zuma Dogg!" (With all TV cameras in the city rolling, y'all...yeah, yeah!) But she was being good natured in her public annoyance, so don't hate on her for that.

Well, City Council decided, not exactly to appeal the agreement, but decided to keep the option open, while we try this:

LAPD is going to start enforcing Skid Row, because the reality is (according to those involved in actually patrolling the streets) that these tent cities have NOTHING to do with trying to get a good nights sleep, and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that they are really just a place where about the only thing going on is drug sales and beating up on each other in the process. However, ZD predicts they will stick to the hours of enforcement to 6a-9p, as per the ALCU agreeement. Then after ninety days, we will see where it's at, and if City Council still wants to preceed with their fight to overturn this in appeals court. (Today, they voted to leave that window open.)

So, I'm sure the ACLU has the best of intentions, but it seems like all this agreeement you cut with your ACLU alumist (Mayor Villagrossa) does is allow the police to be disallowed from making sweeps of Skid Row from the hours of 9p-6a, the hours when we need them most. And the mere sound of it is like one big, gigantic, "PLEASE DON'T INVEST IN LA" billboard at the airport.

But LAPD doesn't want to look like their turning into a "police state" and ruffle the feathers of all these outspoken activists, so they're gonna give it a try the way ACLU wants, and Council said they won't stand in the way, for now.

However, ALL the reporters were shouting, "How do we judge if this is working? Who decides?" (Measure and accountability.) That's been left unanswered. And, so has what actually happens next. All this stuff about LAPD probably sticking to the ACLU agreement is based on talking to those in the know. But, I can't claim it's official. (But, I'm not the LA Times or Daily News, so I can roll with it, y'all...)

A few people I spoke with on the phone wanted to mention that there are empty beds at nearby shelters, left empty, every day...so, "Hey Bud, What's your problem?" Now, the problem, for some, is that you cannot stay in these shelters if you are using drugs or drinking alcohol. So that keeps the most dangerous elements out of the shelters, and on the streets, leaving open beds for those who are not using/drinking, and a truly the one's ACLU are fighting for. However, again, I spoke with an officer in charge of patrolling Skid Row, himself (no one else noticed him , or spoke with him), but he was VERY clear. HE IS HERE TO TELL YOU, these tent cities have NOTHING to do with getting a good nights sleep and EVERYTHING to do with being a 24 hour drug dealing safe haven.

So for now, with a guy like Chief Bratton running the effort, ZD mentioned during public comment, that the hours of 6a-9p will be all you need to remove the criminals, get the mentally ill into social service programs and the rest of homeless who are there, that don't want to be there, will have room in existing shelters and new ones that might be on the way with that $29 million the Mayor approved this week for these causes.

So although I may be percieved as the biggest nemesis to City Hall (Mayor & Council), if you are FOR doing something about Skid Row, City Council stood-up for round the clock enforcement rights, LAPD may try it under the ACLU agreement and see how it works. And the Mayor approved $29 million that I think goes to this. (It ain't always so easy to figure it all out, y'all...So post a comment.

Zuma Dogg


Anonymous Anonymous said:


Was that you standing behind Ramona Ripston from the ACLU? Of course it was!!! That lefty has been given the "KEY TO THE CITY" by "HIS POLLONESS". FYI ZUMA, she is married to the RADICAL judge who gave the oath of office to "HIS POLLONESS", STEPHEN REINHART.

September 20, 2006 7:53 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma, Mayor Sam, Walter, Trolls,

House passes bill to make voters show ID

By JIM ABRAMS, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 11 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The House voted Wednesday to require Americans to show proof of citizenship in order to vote, and the Senate moved to build a 700-mile fence along the Mexican border as Republicans sharpened attacks on illegal immigration before the midterm elections.


September 20, 2006 9:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Troll doesn't care. She's hitting her rewind button for screen shots of Zuma STANDING NEXT TO Ramona Ripston with a poster of Karl Marx in the back. OMG. She's sending it to the CIA as we speak. Thus establishing for all time how much MAV needs her.

Yeah yeah, like a hole in the head they need her. Too bad for Mr You Know Who. If he wasn't such a looser, you could feel sorry for this poor shit right now....


September 20, 2006 9:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What's more 7:50 I saw Zuma Dogg standing in a photo with the spooks of the Rosenbergs. Call Joe McCarthy. Send out the alerts. Zuma must be a commie pinko. That Lefty has been given the KEY TO THE CITY by the same mayor who gave us Big F and the City Hall Troll.

Nice try Troll. Didn't they tell you a picture is worth 100 cents?

She doesn't quit. Like her biker friends said she wouldn't.

September 20, 2006 10:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You can get her to quit. But, just for a few hours. This is what we used for years. (Funny to turn up here and find this is still her "biz" after ALL THESE YEARS)


September 20, 2006 10:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't feel sorry for The Big F 9:52. IMO he is in on it with her.

September 20, 2006 10:31 PM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

All of this is very confusing.

someone please explain this to me.

1. Are the City going to allow folks to sleep in skid row from 9pm to 6am and not bother them , and enforce the law 41.18 d in other parts of the city?

2. does voting to appeal the 9th circuit court of appeals decision
mean they can't do that?

3. what will they be doing in the 90 days? I heard it was the sfer cities initiative? LEt me know.

September 20, 2006 10:31 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Was that you standing behind AV formerly with the ACLU? Of course it was!!! That lefty has been given the "KEY TO THE CITY" and we call him "HIS POLLONESS". Nest time he walks in front of you throw a bag over your head, okay. Good.

September 20, 2006 10:58 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Facist at 7:53 (or do you prefer City Hall Right Wing Quack?)

I have a photo of someone who looks a lot like Zuma Dogg standing with a lefty RADICAL union leader, who is the RADICAL union leader neighbor of a RADICAL anti war celebrity who knows a RADICAL enviornmentalist that contributed to AV's campaign and ALSO once walked down the street with a RADICAL civil rights leader who sympathized with the RADICAL Black Panther Party that this right-wing cyber screwball mentioned on her website as a movement "no sane leader supported", her mission of course being to warn AV about all RADICALS like those who believe the South Central Farmers have a good cause and how black people "play the race card." And then, she and her FAT ASS boyfriend can call out all their RADICALS that she KNOWS must be exposed a la Joe McCarthy. And so the city "wonk" allowed his cyber quack LOVER to RUN WITH IT. Get those RADICALS away from AV. This despite that he supports the LEFTY mayor of the most Leftist city in the country. The missive; Get all the pinko RADICAL commies out of LA right now! Can't win another election for AV with the RADICALS lolling about.

September 21, 2006 12:34 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Facist at 7:53
Zuma Dogg with Ramona Ripstein? Ya got Zuma Dogg with Warren Beatty? My wife's a big fan.

September 21, 2006 12:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Please explain. What does this have to do with Jim Bickhart? I'm confused.

September 21, 2006 1:03 AM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

When the City Council does not allow members of a community that is affected by the decisions that they make.

When they let people who have money use the time that should be allowed for those of us who actually live in that community to speak there is something wrong.

I believe that we must oppose term limit extensions. This City Council has no respect for the constiuents who actually voted for them. They are arrogant pompus idiots.

We need to send them a message that this will no longer be tolerated.

September 21, 2006 1:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

IMO The Mayor has no respect for those who voted for him either. Where do you stand Godzilla on some nut using a photo of Zuma Dogg standing next to an ACLU leader to call him a "Lefty." And where do you stand if this person has strong ties to city hall?

September 21, 2006 1:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Please explain why you showed up to discuss term limits FROM OUT OF NOWHERE when the topic is ACLU and alleged leftists standing with Zuma Dogg? And why did you run away?

September 21, 2006 1:34 AM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

People always do things like that. That doesn't make ZUma Dogg a left wingnut liberal scum of the earth.

But I will speak on the issue of term limits extensions because it is time we oppose it. It is time we speak up. They have no respect for their own constituents.

September 21, 2006 1:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The ACLU is NOT a leftist organization. Rather, they are a bunch of absolutist, ideological fools. I am a proud liberal and I can't stand the ACLU. As far as their so-called advocacy on behalf of the homeless... I would love to see Ramona Ripston's response if the homeless started camping out on the sidewalk in front of her house. Let them deal drugs and defecate on her front lawn and see how she likes it.

September 21, 2006 4:29 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma Dogg: Hey, did ya'll see me on the L.A. City Channel?"
G1:"nah fool, don't nobody watch that"
ZD: "well, i told them suckas"
G1 "(slap) "what'd i tell you about talking like that"
ZD: "I'm sorry, i've been in character for too long i guess"
G2: "I don't care ese"
ZD: "well, i was on television at city hall again"
G1: "so what fool"
ZD: "i really make a difference for our city"
G2: "not in my hood homie. I bet you won't even come to my varrio"
ZD: "not if it's past the L.A. River, I don't know how to catch the bus back to Venice from there"
G1: "well you just better keep recognizing that you ain't shit cuzz, we out"

(the 2 G's walk away)

(Zuma waits till they get into their car in the courthouse parking lot and puts his shades back on)

ZD: "yeah, yeah, Zuma Dogg done stuck it to the clowncil. Did you see how i checked them fools?"
Homeless guy: "do you have some change"
ZD: "nah, i was all up in there just fighting for you, did you see me?"
Homeless guy: (funny look, no response)
ZD: "anyway, i was cold chillin' when i got called to the mic' to represent for all of ya'll folks see"

(no one is on the sidewalk but ZD and his camera guy)

ZD: "oh snap, here come my nigga Herb Wesson. Yo, yo Herb, wassup?"
HW: (without saying a word to Zuma - SLAP!!!) "I told your ass to stop this shit. Damn, you done made me get some sweat on my Brioni suit.....Herby, handle this fool from now on"
ZD: "but i thought we was cool son?"
HW: "Herby!!!"
G1: "you thought we was gone huh cuzz. Now you really finna get dealt with"
ZD: "please ya'll (slap), i mean guys, i'm just trying to fit in with what the media will put on TV. If i just came here in a suit everyday like a regular person, then i could not argue with anyone and they won't take me seriously"
G1: "don't noboday take you seriously now. I done told you, you ain't even in Najee Ali's category. You an even bigger clown"
G2: "check this out ay, sabes que, you better check yourself before you wreck yourself. Orale, this vato pissed in his pants ay" (laughing)
G1: "oh snap" (laughing) "gimme that damn beanie and those fake locs. Buster"

September 21, 2006 5:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ACLU="American Criminal Lawyers Union". This organization long ago stopped being about "civil liberties" since the actual state of civil liberties in the country is so good and they have to justify their existence. They had to go around finding nonsensical issues like fighting against the cross on the LA County seal so they can sit around in their offices and go to their wine and cheese parties and feel like they are doing something important. I have long ago stopped visiting the once beautiful city of San Franciso which has become an outdoor toilet for the homeless that the city coddles.

September 21, 2006 7:29 AM  

Blogger Zuma Dogg said:

Who the hell is writing fake ZD conversations/scripts at 5:09 in the morning? Man, I feel sorry for you.

September 21, 2006 7:32 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma Dogg -


September 21, 2006 7:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sorry, someone has got to edit Zuma Dogg, or teach him to link to other things. My antique city staffer PC con't stroll down that far fast enough to get there before Mayor Sams "Workplace Diversity" spam ads take me away from the post, and then I have to start again.

There are well-researched articles in the Times shorter than these posts.

September 21, 2006 7:42 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

True, and it would be good practice for pubic comments periods. It you can't say it, at afairly normal voice speed in 60 seconds, then don't post it here. It's the 21st century. People get mad when it takes a whole two minutes to defrost a frozen burrito.

September 21, 2006 7:47 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I've never seen Huizar so mad. He stood up and blatantly told the clowncil members "I don't think you know what you just voted on." I give Huizar credit for really being upset and telling them how confusing the damn agreement was and letting the public know what HE thought they voted on. I usually don't support him but on this is was right.

Zuma, Matt, Michael you guys are now becoming like the South LA Farmers. Your message is lost cause you guys are just whining and complaining like women. You don't need to go ever meeting. I support what you do but give me a break you guys are now becoming a thorn in your supporters side.

September 21, 2006 8:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

My good Captain Sparrow,
(nods appreciatively after appropriate eye contact)

Care to comment on this:

WASHINGTON -- A watchdog group cited South Bay Rep. Maxine Waters as among the 20 most "corrupt members" of Congress in a report released Wednesday that details what it terms "egregious, unethical and possibly illegal activities" among House and Senate members.

September 21, 2006 8:18 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Does anyone know the REAL REASON why Bill is leaving? There are lots of rumors going around city hall. Bill is only 54 yrs.

Fujioka Resigning as L.A.'s City Administrative Officer
Citing personal and family reasons, the veteran civil servant will leave in December. He kept his job after battle with Mayor Riordan.

September 21, 2006 8:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

that dialogue is funny if you ask me.

September 21, 2006 8:25 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

This is really confusing.
Council rejects settlement on homeless suit
Gives OK to appeal federal ruling
BY RICK ORLOV, Staff Writer
The City Council rejected a proposed lawsuit settlement Wednesday that would have allowed transients to sleep on some Los Angeles sidewalks at night and instead authorized the city to appeal the federal ruling in the case....After a three-hour, closed-door meeting, the council voted 10-3 to support Councilwoman Jan Perry's effort to appeal, saying the settlement would have worsened conditions.

September 21, 2006 8:39 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Aides to the mayor and others involved in the trip said that about 30 to 45 people would take part, including some City Council members, half a dozen mayoral aides and representatives of various businesses, including Warner Bros. and women- and minority-owned firms.

Who will be in charge now that our midget mayor is leaving LA? Please don't tell me Garcetti.

September 21, 2006 9:23 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Affirmative, 9:23.

September 21, 2006 9:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

ok, heres what really happened. and I agree, Zuma needs editing.
what happened is that the mayor and LAPD and ACLU had all come to an agreement that the CITY would halt its appeal because the ACLU relaxed hours and location of sleeping as a compromise. PERIOD. It was a deal. THEN, Jan Perry pulled a giant CON-job, and renegged at the last minute on the appeal condition. That alone is an act that is completely unethical, she also 'doth protested too much' as to her innocence, but the real action yesterday was fraud and misrepresentation. Now we have council both 'administering' the 6a-9p enforcement AND still appealing the decision.

So it was deception and contempt for the process engaged in by the litigating parties, and now I've seen the look on Jose Huizar';s face, that musta been on mine when they voted the Venice ordinance without really knowing what they were voting.

Its beneath contempt how that agreement was hijacked by Jan Perry., with little notice for the community to respond to her 'change of position'.

its not about drugs and tents and cops and hours...it was all about telling the mayor and carol sobel that the appeal would end, then cheating them out of that promise and still taking the ACLU concessions. It was blatant political conniving, and proves once again 'don't do business with this city'

and THATS why theres a picture of Carol Sobel in the LA Times, P.A24 because SHE is the one who got ripped off in the final wash.

she gave up those concessions, but the appeal is still ON.

please correct me if I'm wrong

September 21, 2006 10:46 AM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

Not PropR Volunteer Rally
Today, Sept 21 at 6:30 p.m.
Chop Suey Restaurant
347 E 1st Street (Little Tokyo)
Parking free in city lot #7
Organizing & Orientation Meeting
Your help & leadership
needed and welcome
More info: www.NotPropR.org

September 21, 2006 10:50 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What does that tell you about the "grass roots" movement. Come "rally' in the banquet room of a downtown restaurant (where Greg Nelson likes to east lunch and pretend he's still "with" the City, no doubt).

Next meeting... telephone booth at Hollywood & Vine. (Then we can tell the Daily News the meeting was SRO!!) Like the CITYWIDE alliance meeting to really put council's feet to the fire had "more than 100 people" (out of 2-3 thousand NC board members).

Why not carpool to the Chinese restaurant there in those little trick cars the clowns in the circus use, the one's that hold 20 midgets each.

It's pretty obvious that the real "clowns" here are the sub-sub-sub 1 percenters, trying to pretend that can deliver 100 times as many votes in the next 6 weeks against something, as they've ever been able to get to vote FOR them in their own NC areas.

Cheerlead away. It's still a numbers game, and the "grass" over these anti-City-Council-anything wannabes wouldn't fill the flowerepot in attention-deficient Villariagosa's legendary Sacramento bachelor pad (which I understand Playboy Enterprises has petitioned the state to make a historic monument).

September 21, 2006 11:10 AM  

Blogger dgarzila said:

I am starting to see that there is more to this than meets the eaye.

Most people I talked to after the meeting yesterday , the people in the lofts on main street were in agreement that term limits extension is a bad idea.

Citing the argument from ZUma Dogg about how they want them to pay for their health benefits.

it is time these people understood that , I earned mine in a land far away, they are here trying to milk things for all they are worth.

We need to make sure the best amount of choice is allowed. This city council has got to go or at least be taught that their behavior will no longer be tolerated.

If the people speak then this is our revolution.

September 21, 2006 11:28 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma Dogg is a joke. And so is this blog.

September 21, 2006 11:41 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

11:10 AM
You could make a better argument if you have a voting pattern on extending term limits. When and where in the country have other voters chosen it? That would help clairify your postition to us more than the sub one percent argument.

September 21, 2006 12:14 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You better watch out No On Prop R because you know the clowncil will send in moles to find out what's going on and what's being said.

ACLU are a bunch of losers. When they sue everyone where does that money go? Why haven't they put any money into the homeless issue if they're so damn concerned about it?

September 21, 2006 12:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Mr. Sub Zero Percenter,
Howard Dean didn't get enough votes to run for president but 70 per cent of the country agrees with him about the war. So, what's your point with these numbers except that you think you can psyche people away from the polls? Cause that it what it looks like. Telling people they will loose on an issue they consistently win and if they feel defeated enought they will not expend the energy to vote.

September 21, 2006 12:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So now Huizar knows how it feels to be double crossed and done in behind closed doors. Not fun, is it? Makes you sort of angry, knowing that you've been screwed and that the folks at City Hall laugh at you and think you're a sub-1 percenter.

Zuma Dogg and the Pirate both have a good point. It's time to throw the bums out!

September 21, 2006 12:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The sub one percenter also known as Straw Man or Straw Mouth or Blowhole, if you will, is not in Huizar's office. Many believe the sub one percenter is an Antonio staff person.

September 21, 2006 12:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think it was just too coincidental that Antonio has a press conf. stating he's going to give homes to 2,000 homeless then all hell breaks loose with the ACLU settlement.

Good point David Z in laweekly.com
....Even more unusual was the mayor telling reporters that he saw no contradiction between his own invitation to parents and his decision to keep his children in parochial school — including his only son, who attends Loyola High School, where tuition costs $8,300 annually.

“We have a long tradition in our family [of] a faith-based education,” said Villaraigosa, pointing out that he, his mother and his children have attended Catholic schools

September 21, 2006 12:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The sub one percenter that we know who he is, is trying to win an election by essentially telling Americans why they shouldn't vote. Not why they should vote with him, but just "you will loose because you are loosers so just don't bother." That this Straw Jerkoff works anywhere in our government is a shame and a disgrace. And since we all know who is doing it, we should stop arguing No on Prop R-----it is No on Prop R slamdunk--and get the mayor's office to tell us who this sub one percenter is so he can be out of our goverment for good. Just speaking for myself, that has become the more important issue. This guy has to go!

September 21, 2006 12:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good afternoon, 8:18 (nods and tips hat). My apologies on not responding to you sooner, as I have been preparing for two minor scoundrels to walk the plank. If you hear a ker-plunk, you will know that the plank has indeed been plunked, savvy?

I trust that you are not a sot as you have asked me to opine upon Madame Walters and her alleged corruption ranking. If you are asking me to opine that all members of a certain political party are guilty of being easily led, I will not do so. The blame for greed lies upon the part of both parties. However, I will opine that avarice such as this appears not to be confined to any one area of government. The difference between Madame Walters and Villabarbosa, the Clowncil and the assorted sots is that the Madame at least tries to hear what the people tell her. Alas, those in the local government do not, as has been demonstrated time and time again by those entrenched in City Hall.

My good man Dgarzila made an excellent point in an earlier post, and in fact has managed fix his crossbow to fire directly into the butts set up along the Clowncil horseshoe. Good form, man! The revolution has indeed begun. And just as the sots will send their spies to eat Chop Suey tonight, so will I. Among the coolies will be one with the skull and crossbones upon his back. Among the coolies will be a strawman sot with a Schmidthole in his desk drawer.

In answer to 8:18’s original question, the difference between a pirate and a thief is that a thief takes for herself only. The pirate, on the other hand, shares the treasure with all.


September 21, 2006 12:53 PM  

Blogger dgarzila said:


who cares?

They don't seem to care what we thnk , why should we care what they think or what moles are sent in.

and anyway ,

why would an ex general manger be leading a group opposing prop R in the first place?

We could always argue this was a way to control the organizing against it effectively.

So who cares?

I have some medicatioon that might help you

September 21, 2006 12:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Yeah, that's the argument. Pointing out that the loudest screamers about how City Council didn't "take" this to the NCs are the mini-politician NC loudmouths that never "take" anything to their OWN stakeholders is going to "psyche" this into a Prop R win.

Keep thinking up excuses for when this thing passes (apathetically), but try and make them a little more believable.

September 21, 2006 1:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Coolies is a racist term!

But then, targeting only Latino politicians to "walk the plank" isn't exactly out of line with that kind of 19th century thinking now, is it?

September 21, 2006 1:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Amazing how the thread turned so quickly away from the ACLU suit and heated up at the exact same time. This blog seems to have a one-track mind, possibly a one issue audience.

September 21, 2006 1:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A mayor's staff person is posting here and bringing up AV's sordid sexual history at the same? Somehow I cannot belive that.

September 21, 2006 1:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sparrow is targeting them all to walk the plank. Read it again Straw Man.

September 21, 2006 1:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

AV has a sorted sexual history? Go on....

September 21, 2006 1:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Anything other than HISSS-panic surnames there, asswipe?

Don't know what origins "therest" is, so it CAN'T BE READ!

"First they came for the Latinos. . . ."

September 21, 2006 1:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Tell us more about Mayor Antonio's sordid sexual past, you who are all knowing?

September 21, 2006 1:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bet the NC sub-1-percenters stiff the waiters at Chop Suey on tips.

September 21, 2006 1:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Bugger them that think I am racist. Have you now been paying attention sot? No. Too busy with a Schmidthole are we?

We've already dropped Runner, Ashburn and Mountjoy off on a deserted island...and they happen to be Anglos.

In this case, first came the haoles.

Bloody sot with a one-track mind. Name yourself sot, and we'll put you out on the plank too.

September 21, 2006 1:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I thought someone said the straw woman had been ordered by MAV to stop blogging.

Not a very good source. Now I'me not even sure it's a woman.

September 21, 2006 1:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


All Latinos.

To be replaced with what? Samoans?

September 21, 2006 1:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


All Latinos. Someone wants to clean house.

September 21, 2006 1:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


All walking the plank. Can't wait to see how the districts get gerrymandered around next time to "fix" that.

September 21, 2006 1:39 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Sounds like "ethnic cleansing" to me.

September 21, 2006 1:40 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


This is the lineup on Hal Netkin's dart board, isn't it?

September 21, 2006 1:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Zuma, Matt, Michael you guys are now becoming like the South LA Farmers...

I laughed, but in truth I think it only sounds that way. There are too many issues right now, and print are not covering them quickly enough, while the blogosphere is not covering them in enough depth.

It's a perfect storm of aggravation for people in the City.

1) NOBODY on the ground wanted the ACLU deal, not even some long-time ACLU supporters.
2) EVERYBODY seems to be against Term Limit Extensions, and the media glare on this issue is forcing Council to deal with it to their relief; meanwhile
3) NOBODY wants to talk about the Affordable Housing Bond---by election, nobody's going to realize that Antonio, Garcetti, Huizar and Mercedes Marquez are going to preside over the surfeit of a billion dollar tax increase.

Yeah, everyone is running around trying to carve themselves a little piece of political expertise. But the key to this is "Just say NO." I say, everyone should get on the same page, then we'd see something:

NO to any CONTAINMENT policy downtown
If you think people are confused now, wait until they get their sample ballots, with the State Initiatives thrown in.

September 21, 2006 1:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Alarcon has dismissed the lawsuit developer Ralph Horowitz filed on February 23rd,2006 to retaliate against the South Central Farmers Feeding Families for having filed suit against him and the City of Los Angeles in order to save a 14-acre community farm in South Los Angeles. When the Farmers filed their lawsuit in 2003, they obtained a preliminary injunction that prevented the demolition of the 350 farm plots on the land. Mr. Horowitz and the City appealed the order granting the injunction, and in June of last year, the Court of Appeal reversed the order granting the injunction. In February of this year, Mr. Horowitz sued the South Central Farmers organization and 14 of the individual farmers contending that they had abused the legal system by obtaining the preliminary injunction. In his lawsuit, Mr. Horowitz sought $645,199.22 in damages and $84,546,50 in attorneys’ fees.


September 21, 2006 1:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

From Wikipedia:


The term "coolie" is a pejorative term refering to usually unskilled laborers from Asia, particularly China and India. . . The original use of the term usually referred to Chinese, Indian, Japanese and Korean indentured labourers and is nowadays a very derogatory term.

September 21, 2006 1:50 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Someone better buy a new mask for blogging at Mayor Sam's. Maybe invent a new character that's not a racist.

(Was Johnny Depp a racist in that movie?)

September 21, 2006 1:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Racist pig! My parents were interned at Tuna Canyon during World War II. Is this funny to you?

September 21, 2006 1:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

1:43pm is Joseph Mailander, blogging anonynmously.

September 21, 2006 1:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You can spin it however you want, but the pirate seems to be advocating for anyone and everyone associated with MAV to walk the plank. And in a way I can see his point. If you look at who it is up on the plank in November and again in March, it's those who have done the very things blogged about here.

I would like to see Garcetti walk the plank. When does he walk? March? What about the strawman? NAME THE STRAWMAN!!!

September 21, 2006 1:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Victory for South Central Farmers!!

"The Horowitz plaintiffs had to show that the Farmers used the preliminary injunction in an improper way after they obtained it. The plaintiffs failed to allege or show in their opposition brief any such misuse of the injunction, and because they did not, the court granted the Farmers’ motion and dismissed the plaintiffs’ lawsuit."

Read More At LA INDY MEDIA!!

September 21, 2006 1:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


September 21, 2006 1:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

GOod afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen (bows low and places hat over heart):

If my comments about coolies has offended, I retract the comment. My apologies.

And I challenge any sot in City Hall to apologize for any unbecoming comments they have made.

September 21, 2006 1:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

12:41pm, no one will win or lose an election by blogging anonymously on Mayor Sam. the same twenty people read this website-- and I am sure they all already have their minds made up as to how they are going to vote.

Just a reality check.

September 21, 2006 2:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If anyone's at the Not Prop R meeting tonight, stay away from the mole wearing a skull and crossbones on his KKK hood. (You might get "buggered" regardless of race).

September 21, 2006 2:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hoisted on his own burning cross! It's like watching the rednecks in "Deliverance" get blown away one at a time.

September 21, 2006 2:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The captain has a new (old) slogan for poltical reform:

"If it's BROWN, flush it down!"

Doesn't it seem like in this age of you-better-take-some-tolerance- training that the fake pirate with the lifetime Klan credentials is the one that should be unmasked, ASAP?

September 21, 2006 2:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What is going one? Is Straw Man being called out as a racist for wishing so much ill on the South Central Farmers that he refuses to accept the news that they won?

September 21, 2006 2:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

you people are disgusting, homeless people for the most part don't choose to be homeless, and the places that CAN help them are always full! what do you expect them to do?

Those people that do want to build more shelters or transitional homes are stopped because apparently having a shelter in your neighboorhood really drives down the property value...

you people are the reason that the rest of the world is disgusted with america. seriously

seriously how do you sleep at night knowing that you have no heart.

peace -- from the people who care...

September 21, 2006 2:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Captain Jack1

I would love to see a photo of the two low level scoundrels who are scheduled to walk the plank! Any idea when this momentous occasion will occur?

September 21, 2006 2:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey Capt. Jack! Read your apology and calling out the straw woman to apologize for her remarks as well.

Takes guts to admit you made a mistake. I have a new respect for you that I didn't have 1/2 an hour ago.

September 21, 2006 2:15 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


Never made any comments about the farmers.

Nope never. Diversion failed, reignite!

September 21, 2006 2:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:15 is the pirate.

September 21, 2006 2:21 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What, no apology for the "ethnic cleansing" of Latino politicians?

Not even an attempt to add someone else to the "plank" list (AV has some "negro" accomplices, as well, Capt. Kinky Freebird. . . why not add one of them to the list just to add a bit more "color").

September 21, 2006 2:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"I hope all youse guys will accept my sincerest apologies for me saying that the blacks 'may not have some of the necessities to be, let's say, a field manager, or perhaps a general manager.'"

-- Al Campanis, 1987

This has been another in the series GREAT APOLOGIES IN L.A. HISTORY, brought to you each week, by Farmer John!

September 21, 2006 2:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Not gonna work, 2:15. This won't be the first closet racist that had to abandon a fake personality here, and come back as someone else (but then, something tells me you KNEW that already), from comments made during the last mayors race about Blacks and their voting habits.


September 21, 2006 2:41 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I don't think Captain Sparrow A FICTIOUS CHARACTER speaking in a language that his centuries old needs to apologize. The Captain is like a movie character, and we don't ask producers of films such as Mississippi Burning to apologize for the racist language accurately depicted by those FICTIOUS characters, either. So you get over yourself Troll.
But I think it is extremely racist to be so obsessed about some law-abiding LA citizens and their small rewards of fresh flowers and vegetables that you would continue to LIE about the South Central Farmers. Troll, You are the racist IMO. Not the fictious theatrical Captain Jack.

September 21, 2006 2:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

One more time Troll, Captain Jack is playing a dramatic role. During the time the Captain is entertaining us about, that word was used.

But you are who you are. A woman that can't stand how the South Central Farmers might get back their land.

September 21, 2006 2:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

One more time Troll, Captain Jack is playing a dramatic role. During the time the Captain is entertaining us about, that word was used.

But you are who you are. A woman that can't stand how the South Central Farmers might get back their land.

September 21, 2006 2:46 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Get it Dumbo? Jack's a screenplay. You're a low level scoundrel's Troll.

September 21, 2006 2:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Is this the same screwball who posted at 7:53 thatZuma Dogg must be with the ACLU because he was standing behind Ramona Ripston? Connecting miniscule insignificant details and events so as to obtain a broader more powerful meaning is one of hallmarks of psychotic disease.

September 21, 2006 3:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I can't believe all the e-mails today asking what the hell went on in clowncil yesterday. What a mess!!! No one knows whether LAPD can go after the hard core drug dealers and gang bangers who prey on the homeless or not. Someone needs to put ACLU in their place.

September 21, 2006 3:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

From Random House:

"The use of coolie to mean 'an Asian laborer' is not normally considered offensive as a word; it's more the practice of imperialism it suggests that can be offensive. At this point it is found almost exclusively in historical use. Coolie is, however, used as a racist term to refer to 'an Asian person' (with no suggestion of laboring), especially in South Africa, and this use is of course quite offensive."

Troll, you see any references by Captain Jack Sparrow about Aisans "walking the plank?"

Pleased to be of service, again.

September 21, 2006 3:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Trolloping at 1:36 Straw Man's Maid in Waiting Blubbered______

"I thought someone said the straw woman had been ordered by MAV to stop blogging. Not a very good source. Now I'me not even sure it's a woman."

Did anyone post say you listened?

September 21, 2006 3:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Spin, spin, spin... keep hiding behind your anon personalities to try and resurrect the racist pirate (but, like the ventriliquist dummy that mouths bad words, we KNOW it's not the fake pirate persona that's racist.. it's the real life poster behind it).

I'm going back to see if Jackoff called anybody a "blaggard" in past posts, because we know that the FIRST part of that "period" term means "Black" and has some serious racist overtones to it.

P.S. AGAIN, braindead children. I have not ONCE posted on the south central farmers issue. WE'RE ALL ANONS HERE, how can you tell who says what? Get a clue. I haven't been following that story and have NOTHING to say about it. Get TWO clues.

Are the PERIODS at the end of my sentences DISTINCT? Can you tell EVERY post I make, and which one's I don't. No, and there's more than on poster here exposing the sub-sub-1 percenters, too.

(Oh, if I come back playing the part of a old suthern gent'lman from some movie for future posts, can I use the "N" word when speaking of African Americans and no one will mind, because, of course. . . "It's just a part" - We're just "pretending. It's a DRAMATIC character")

Pure BS.

(Boy you can sure tell on this blog when the children get out of school and hit the Internet hookups at the library!

September 21, 2006 3:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Did anyone post say you listened?

Are they from you about this was it? Why from did he not so?

September 21, 2006 3:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Good afternoon (tips hat): I have yet to hear the troll apologize for its remarks. I have apologized for mine. They were in bad form.

Mayhap that's the difference between you and me, troll. If my offal is malodorus, I admit it. Yet you continue on in a cavalier way. Just like the Clowncil sot you work for.

You scream the loudest yet have the most to hide. You can't express yourself in any other way than a narrow minded attack. Notice I have never attacked you, your privates, skin color or body mass. My comments have been to you directly.

So profer up an apology for the rude and unsubstantiated remarks you have made to the citizens of this fair city. Consider yourself called out. If you fail to apologize for YOUR remarks, your charges of racism will be as empty as your desk will be when your boss returns.

September 21, 2006 3:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

2:45 and 2:46

That's TWO more times.

This is why you're having trouble understanding that the loudmouth NC screamers opposing Prop R have no "numbers" behind them, and no time to get any.

And they've had 3-4 years in most cases to do outreach, and city money to do it with (most of it STILL unspent). They could have all had small armies of people willing to hear from them by now, but the little lawsuit-filing, election-losing Napoleans were all too busy meeting with each other to planned unmanned skirmishes with the REAL elected officials.

September 21, 2006 3:56 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

When did your "troll" use racist remarks?

Find a link.

Put up or shut up (you also said you knew who the "troll" was days ago)???

P.S. (I don't work at a "desk"). Your 10 ill-informed guesses are ALL up.

September 21, 2006 3:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

TRolls right Captain. The racial remarks will follow you to every thread.
Hang up the hat and come back as Rip Van Winklie, or something else,

September 21, 2006 4:00 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Look, everyone is anonymous, and unless you post something under a fake name like the pirate does, no one cane prove any post was made by anyone.

There could be six strawn men for all anyone knows.

I'm not even sure what playing a Caribbiean pirate has to do with Asians anyway.

September 21, 2006 4:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Captain Jack Sparrow Please Take Notice

Troll's boss is most probable to be in the AV camp, not clowncil. Clown, perhaps, but not CM.

Troll will now change subject back to sub one percent. Good indicator that Troll is stumped but will return many many times with same argument in alternate form. That is its SOP.

Troll will accuse you of any and every trait it itself harbors up to and including racism. It failed to see you spoke also about "Chop Suey." Another historical inclusion. Troll will not apologize or delete. That is why it is a TROLL! It moves with the power of an entire government behind it making it a very sick and arrogant Troll.

September 21, 2006 4:04 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nice analysis.

Totalling incorrect, in every way, six-ways from every way however.

(The "Chop Suey" was the best -- it's the name of a CURRENT L.A. restaurant... probably not that HISTORICAL, but where some of the "you cheated us" wannabe politicians are meeting to discuss how to "rally" their collection tenths-of-percents against Prop R). But damn, that was some FUNNY spinning.

I hope you continue to NOT believe that I am a private citizen, employed in private industry, have never worked for any arm of government and never expect to, have no govt. customers, clients, or friendly associations of any kind (parse that away, anyway you like... all the better). "OH, does that mean he has UNFRIENDLY associations with government??? Which one of Antonio's 'troll' employees SECRETLY hates him" GEEZ!

I am also a duly elected board member of a certified L.A. neighborhood council, in good standing, last I checked. One of the 2000 or so volunteer out of maybe 2,400 - 2,500 not screaming at City Council about Prop R.

Please, I beg you, whatever you do -- don't believe ANY of the above, and continue to blame government officials who DON'T know who you are, and couldn't care less if they did.

Better not to know the truth, and flail at "enemies" that are not even attacking you.

AND, there is NOTHING to apologize for, unless you think "breaking ranks" with the screaming sub-sub-sub-1 percenters and trying to do better is some form of traitorous act.

EXCUSE me for thinking for myself and studying the situation, rather then believing the self-serving spin of a handful of loudmouths who are doing the NC system more harm than good, and whose action costs the city many thousands in legal fees, because they did NOT want the voters of L.A. to decide for themselves.

Sue me, many of the so-called "leaders" claiming they've been harmed by the city referring Prop R to the ENTIRE voting public are lawyers. I'm sure then can keep me in "Does" subpoenas until some of them actually REACH 1 percent penetration in their neglected communities.

September 21, 2006 4:52 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:


All that misplaced, misdirected venom and not a single word about the subject the poster discusses -- the protest by a small number of NCs against Prop R being on the ballot.

Whose city staff did you get fired from?? (Sounds like a bitter ex-Hahn staffer, still out-of-work).

Why not address the topic, and worry less about the messenger. If the "troll" is all wrong, no one will believe. If's he wrong, and just mistating facts, then it should be easy to prove that. (For example, Do the NCs doing all the protesting actual have large followings that they can bring to play in the next election? How can you prove that? Is this one issue the "sparkplug" what will turn NCs into household word by early November?

Some NC leaders will tell you they saved their stakeholders tons of money by holding up the DWP rate hike for awhile. Didn't that bring large, happy throngs of stakeholders into the NC families?

If the troll is right, however, and years of neglected outreach has made NCs paper tigers in city government, for now, then you're wasting everyone's time.

September 21, 2006 5:03 PM  

Blogger Joseph Mailander said:

1:43pm is Joseph Mailander, blogging anonynmously.

Thank you for getting me to read a comment I might have otherwise skipped!

September 21, 2006 5:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Whoa, the pirate has some thin skin on him.

Is this the same rogue that wants to forcibly sodomize ("bugger") numerous politicians and just about everyone who disagrees, concerned about someone else's "rude" remarks?

Has anyone else posting here suggested anal rapes of those who cross them?

September 21, 2006 5:36 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think the fictitious pirate character taken from a movie and therefore has been granted license by his supporter to make racist remarks was suggesting that someone he calls Troll was being rude, but I think that could be a problem also, because the Troll is probably also a fictitious dramatic character from a 1986 horror movie that was an even less savory character than the pirate-type. So any rudeness, even if it could be proven and linked, would have to be chalked off as somehow genre-related. The battle of the drama queens is getting tiresome, though.

September 21, 2006 5:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Dinner time. . . anyone up for Chinese food?

Probably not more than a few dozen out of several thousand.

September 21, 2006 5:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Capt." Jack:

Hurl a cutlass into a pack of ruffians. The one who screams the loudest didn't move fast enough and got hisself slashed!

September 21, 2006 5:54 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

A "PC" pirate arrives, one who's had some sensitivity training, no doubt, and probably won't be encouraging racism, political ethnic cleansing, or forced sodomy on "ruffians."

Had to happen.

(That rushing sound you hear is the remaining 10 posters who visit MS DISTANCING themselves from the bigotted one -- who, by-the-by, has also apparently stopped listing the Latino-only lineups for the next plank-walking team).

September 21, 2006 6:34 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm loosing track, do you sexually violate (bugger) your political adversaries first, or sentence them to capital punishment (the plank).

Or does their race or ethnicity play into which comes first? It used to be so much easier to remember the dance steps. Nominate, campaign, elect, recall (sometimes), re-elect, not re-elect, and then more recently, "term out" (the least democratic form, of course).

September 21, 2006 6:37 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

5:36 PM NOT a bitter ex Hahn staffer, rather the Maiden in Waiting for an Antonio staff wonk posting and posting and posting added this psycho piece of twaddle

"Is this the same rogue that wants to forcibly sodomize ("bugger") numerous politicians and just about everyone who disagrees, concerned about someone else's "rude" remarks? Has anyone else posting here suggested anal rapes of those who cross them?"

No one has suggested that here Big Foot. But you do get more vile and lewd when challenged. Figured out that you put your Man in trouble, eh? Could it be it's he that Captain Sparrow said is "walking the plank" tonight? Revelation. Ah hah.

September 21, 2006 6:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:37 PM

You are getting sicker. In front of all these bloggers too.

September 21, 2006 6:49 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Of course she turned venomous on Captain Jack Sparrow. She IS afraid her man who is not a Hispanic politician if anyone cares could be the low level scoundrel Capt. J fancies is about to walk the plank. Could it be partially over her world wide web of misdeeds? This is such a soap opera.

September 21, 2006 7:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

She's gone? She must have gone out for Chop Suey. The big new undiscovered Los Angeles flavor of the month. Bragging to the Man that she "outed" Capt. Sparrow.

September 21, 2006 7:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


September 21, 2006 7:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

BOYLE HEIGHTS, Calif. -- A man accused of assaulting a radio reporter who was investigating a charter school in Boyle Heights was arrested Thursday, police said.

Ramon Flores, 31, was taken into custody during a traffic stop near Boyle and Eighth streets in Boyle Heights about 8:15 a.m., said Lt. Paul Vernon of the Los Angeles Police Department.

ABC radio reporter Sandy Wells had tried to interview parents, students and administrators outside the Academia Semillas del Pueblo Charter School in the 4700 block of Huntington Drive about 7:30 a.m. June 1 when he saw a silver sedan speeding at him, Vernon said.

September 21, 2006 8:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Troll said "Are the PERIODS at the end of my sentences DISTINCT? Can you tell EVERY post I make, and which one's I don't."


September 21, 2006 9:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What the heck happened to
Im sure you would have sounded in on "coolie gate"......
Havn't heard from you on Asians since your comment on the Dogder exec
... not knock you Arch but miss your "slanted" view on things....

Capt Jack
Don't worry about the coolie reference. Most Asians are not so PC sensitive, and coolie is not offensive, just like hard work, many immigrant families are proud of working honorable labor.

As for why no ASIANS walking the plank.
LA city hall and their king makers haven't even let Asians on the ship let alone be able to walk the plank!!!

September 21, 2006 9:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Elephant Girl at 6:37 PM,
Wasn't it you I spotted at the party, dressed to the nines in oh such LA blue blood finest? Do tell. Slummin' with the lower peon wonk and of course planning on an early Halloween?

September 21, 2006 9:45 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ya gotta trust what I saw that Troll is one fine lookin' "cop."

September 21, 2006 11:59 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Ask the next Asian America you see how things are among the "coolies" and see how quickly you get the brush off.

Not offensive? Redneck, please!

September 22, 2006 6:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:13 AM Elephant Girl Diary,
Up early, remove test paint, to cleaners with bogus "officer" party outfit, visit new CH peon.

September 22, 2006 12:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Fun Facts from Mythology
Definition: Wikipedia

The term "hermaphrodite" derives from Hermaphroditus, the son of Hermes and Aphrodite in Greek mythology, who was fused with a nymph, resulting in one possessing physical traits of both sexes. Thus Hermaphroditus was, by the modern terminology, a simultaneous hermaphrodite. The mythological figure of Tiresias, who figures in the Oedipus cycle as well as the Odyssey, was a sequential hermaphrodite, having been changed from a man to a woman and back by the gods.

September 24, 2006 9:16 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"I'm going back to see if Jackoff called anybody a "blaggard" in past posts, because we know that the FIRST part of that "period" term means "Black" and has some serious racist overtones to it."

Wow! You might as well accuse everyone who has ever used the word black in any context of being racist.That said, this is one of the weakest uses of the race card I've ever seen. For the record, 'blaggard' is a derivation of 'black-hearted' which was a term that originated in Britain in the Middle Ages when 99.9% of the population didn't even know of the existence of black people.

If you must brand people a racist please reserve it for those who deserve it. Hey, I just wrote a poem!

November 02, 2013 2:45 AM  

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