Villaraigosa Veto? Term Limit Update
To veto or not to veto -- that is the question.According to the L.A. Times, City Attorney "Rocky" Delgadillo has called on Mayor Villaraigosa to veto City Council's proposed ballot measure to weaken the term limits law. That measure, Delgadillo warned, could not withstand a legal challenge. (See other posts on this blog for excruciating details).
So let's say you're Villaraigosa. You've graduated from the unaccredited "People's Law School," and you never passed the bar, despite four attempts. The City Attorney, who not only passed the bar exam, but did so after graduating Harvard and Columbia Law, tells you the ballot initiative will likely trigger a lawsuit, subjecting taxpayers to a big, expensive litigation nightmare, ending in defeat.
Do you do the right thing, exercise your veto, and suggest the City Council follow the City Attorney's advice? Or do you pass the buck to avoid ticking off your buddies?
Please enter your predictions on the blog now. The clock has started, and we don't know how long before the Mayor will render his decision.
Me, I'm predicting he passes the buck rather than using the veto.
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Posted by Walter Moore @ 8/02/2006 03:19:00 PM
18 Comments:
Yes, Rocky is an educated, smart, and charming individual. Yes, we would all like Mr. Villar to do the right thing. However,
I would say "cast a vote, any vote" just do not leave the building before doing so.
I think we should punish those council memmbers that voted to put this on the ballot by recalling them. Our council president has shown he will disregard the law so that he doesn't have to get a job.
Shame on you, Eric "Silver Spoon" Garcetti.
He will pass the buck. And, let's be clear about Rocky. He has great educational credentials but has hardly practiced law. Accordingly, you'd be foolish to think that Rocky is a legal eagle.
Will Mayor Polloraigosa veto this lame measure or will he use this to BUY support ($500,000 for four extra years of "hard Work")for his stupid takeover plan ?
Not a chance he will veto. they did their part by leaving the LAUSD measure off the ballot, so they get their reward by his approving their term limit extension. Start lobbying everyone you know to vote NO.
By the way, did you see all the tired usual suspects garcetti's office trotted out to give supportive public comment? He should have these people on the payroll. At least one - Glen Dake - he already DID have on the payroll.
You've graduated from the unaccredited "People's Law School," and you never passed the bar, despite four attempts.
And he still clobbered your ass in the election, Wacko. Doesn't that just piss you the hell off?!?
PREDICTION: No veto. These are his friends we're talking about. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. If you ever win an election Wacko (God forbid!), you will behave the same way, guaranteed.
Antonio is the biggest pussy in town. He doesn't have the balls to veto this and piss off the clowns. How dare they say we need more time to do our job. I say everyone campaign hard against this. I give Rocky credit for going after those clowns and telling them in council this is not written properly and hides the real message. I lost a lot of respect for Eric today. He also lost my support. These clowns are basically saying we can't get anything done in 8 years so give us more time. Send e-mails to everyone you know and tell them to spread the word. Guaranteed the newspapers are going to really nail the clowns on this one in tomorrow's papers.
Villaraigosa clobbered me? Well, he won, sure, but he spent what, $2 million to my $30,000? Put me in the televised debates with him next time around, and we'll see who clobbers whom. Last time, voters didn't really reject me; rather, they didn't even know I was running.
Also, do not underestimate Delgadillo's legal education. Columbia Law is an excellent school. Plus, he actually passed the bar, and he has the assistance of a trained and experienced staff.
What makes you think that Rocky's opinion is correct? The Chamber of Commerce and League of Women Voters has better lawyers than Rocky ever dreamed of being - and they say it's legal. This was Rocky's big push to become Mayor - See how he can stand up to people. Villaragoisa should get an opinion from a real lawyer and go from there.
I've provided a cite and a link to Rocky's opinion letter.
Can you do the same for the League of Women Voters and the Chamber of Commerce? I have not heard or read that they have any legal opinion on this. Have you, or are you just taking a shot at Rocky?
The League of Women Voters: did they have a lawyer look at this? Are you kidding? Not when the Chamber carried the whole thing, carried the water for their friends at City Hall. Heck, the lawyers/lobbyists probably wrote the thing to their own exact requirements and specifications. But, as to the law, don't imagine anyway actually cared....
Hooray to Rocky for standing up and doing his job. And, as for the mayor, does anyone actually imagine he will turn his back on a chance to get the Council to "owe" him.....
F Rocktard and Anne D'Amato. They are both vindictive fools.
Everyone is giving credit and support to Rocky on this one. Those assholes just showed this entire city they don't give a shit about anyone and don't want to go get a real job. How dare they think they can just sit for 4 more years and waste our tax dollars. I agree to campaign hard. I've already heard NC are organizing on this one.
Is someone actually saying here that the City Council, the legislative body for the City of Los Angeles, should be looking to the legal advice of the Chamber of Commerce as the foundation for putting something on the ballot? rather than to the City Attorney elected by the people? Aiyeeee.
My prediction's no veto. Not when he still needs their support for the school takeover. He'll do his best to please.
As for Rocky, I've heard it suggested that he's just sour grapes over not being included in the term limit extension.
"I'm going to continue to say I cannot support an end-run around our Ethics Commission and neighborhood councils," said Delgadillo.
Since when has he cared about the neighborhood councils? Since when was vetting ethics rules and ballot initiatives a duty of the NCs?
Though his concern for us down here in the NCs is disingenuous, he is right about the Ethics Commission. They are there to deal with this stuff and the Council has overstepped its bounds. This will get fun if Daddy Gil, president of the Ethics Commission ever weighs in.
My question for all the haters of this initiative is this:
What do you think is the ideal number of years for a city councilmember to be in office? How do you come to that number?
Daddy Gil cannot weigh in, will not weigh in, will do everything possible not to have to weigh in. This is a measure being pushed by his son, his son who wants to remain Council President as long as he can. And his daddy will do nothing to embarrass -- or even question -- the actions of his son.
As much as I dislike Rocky, I dislike the Chamber more. If they are for it; it can not be good. I wouldn't trust their attorneys at all.
Why can't the councilmembers learn their jobs in eight years? They aren't bright enough to carry on if they can't learn it. They should have gone in to the job knowing how to get things done. After all, it's not like any of them are newbies to City Hall so that argument doesn't fly. One was chief of staff for Fatty Coke Head, one was chief of staff for Build it all Bernson, one was chief of staff for dead-even-when-wasn't Ferarro. If these people can't grasp the job, they shouldn't be there.
Any longer and they start caving in to the developer money. Look at Wendy. What happened to her? Everyone had such high hopes for her. Now she is pro developer/anti open space and her constituents will never get over it.
Mayor "Villa" would do the right thing? Are you kidding? Having observed him in action firsthand in the Assembly, I found that he has no sense of moral right and wrong...
I'm in favor of stricter term limits... one six-year term, and then out the door (and don't come back as a lobbyist either).
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