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Saturday, June 10, 2006

Thinking about a solution is the first step to finding one

By Jennifer Solis

If I have not made this plain enough for everyone, I am neither a supporter nor critic of Academia Semillas del Pueblo. I simply wrote a column for the Los Angeles Daily News, which reported what I saw, and information that was provided to me by the ASP administrators.

The fact that their local community endorses the school is beyond question. Even the Los Angeles Times could find no local critics – and believe me, they looked.

KABC condemns the school because it is run by a couple of MEChA alumni from UCLA, whose radical views have shaped the vision of a small charter operation in a neighborhood of Spanish speaking poverty. One of the questions my readers say I should have reported was “How many of these families are illegal immigrants?”

Frankly, I don’t care. The law says we have an obligation to educate these kids, and the LAUSD and the CDE decide how we are going to do it. No one is holding a gun to the heads of the parents who have elected to move their kids to ASP. Like all parents, they want their kids to succeed.

The test results, teacher certification ratio and other yardsticks for measuring performance paint a dismal picture, which critics of ASP are quick to point out. These factors must be improved, and I have been told that they shall be addressed as priority goals.

But in spite of the fact that I consider these measurements legitimate and necessary, I can’t help but feel that there are other, perhaps intangible, experiences that make the difference on how one is motivated to grow up with a positive attitude toward the education process. Mr. and Mrs. Aguilar believe that a connection to the kids’ roots and pride in their heritage is the best method for encouraging these children.

It’s like saying, “Your ancestors are looking down upon you, and expect you to make them proud.” Maybe this kind of pressure is part of what makes the Asian community succeed so well in academics.

One of Mayor Sam's afficionados has asked me, “Jennifer, you of all people know that, given your own experiences, I'm not sure why you decided to wade into this issue?" My answer to him is that it is precisely because of my experiences, growing up with inner-city Hispanic schoolmates, that I can understand the challenge, and have an obligation to help work on the problems. I am fortunate in that -- unlike many writers who are far more intelligent and experienced than I am -- my editors give me a forum – a soapbox to express my views and observations.

You may not agree with my observations, and that’s OK – at least you are drawn to think about these issues – and that is the first step toward finding solutions.

56 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said:

How much $$$$$$$$$$ did the nice Aguilar couple pay you Jennifer?

This story, a stench of BS propaganda given to Mayor Sam Sister City readers, pathetic.

You underestimate everyone's intelligence at this forum.

Go spin for master Huizar & Villababoso, plus the new couple of the year-The Socialist Aguilars.

June 10, 2006 8:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

American taxpayers have a right to question what is being taught in any public school. It is precisely the Mecha/Raza/Marxist philosophy espoused by the founder that is a concern to the public.
In addition, when a bona fide member of the press went to the campus to gather information, he was attacked while waiting outside on the public street. The justifications for the attack were simply incredible.
Add to that the dismal test scores (even when compared to similar schools) and you can understand why citizens would be concerned.
You observed the dog and pony show but you apparently did not inquire as to those matters germaine to the controversy.
As a result, your "reporting" is not much more than another facet of the school's PR campaign to deflect attention away from the essential issues.
No Pulitzer for you Ms. Solis.

June 10, 2006 8:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well Ms. Solis - you've finally earned my respect. This is your best work ever. Henceforth, I will read your work with a different eye.

June 10, 2006 9:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

9:11
Try using both eyes from now on.
And both hemispheres of your brain.

June 10, 2006 9:27 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Well Ms. Solis - you've finally earned the title: BullShit reporter of the year. This is your local political propaganda for damage control. Henceforth, I will read your work carefully, with a different eye.

June 10, 2006 9:29 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Jennifer, you wrote an opinion piece located in the editorial section of the newspaper. Unbiased "reporting" is found on in the other sections of the paper. Quit trying to backpedal. Glad you finally learned the name of the school.

June 10, 2006 10:30 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You stupid woman!!!!!

Don't insult our intelligence! This is a fucking Mecha, racist school with an agenda! You didn't even report that Minnie Ferguson is Aguilar's wife. You didn't even report that the 94% of the teachers are not accredited.

But most importantly, you didn't report that Aguilar's comments are subversive, anti-American and racist.

Why don't you keep repeating his mantra: "It's the United States that is the Immigrants"! and "The Constitution and Declaration of Independence doesn't say that we have to become Americans"!!!!!

Screw you, Solis! And all of your anti-American friends. You make me puke!!!!!

June 11, 2006 7:57 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

wow - and all my MEChA ever did was sell tacos to raise money for scolarhsips...I guess we were some kind of sleeper cel, exisiting ina kind of twilight zone of semi-consciousness, ready to be activated at a moment's notice to fight for the revolution and the reconquista...wow

June 11, 2006 9:35 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Maria,

Stop puking while spewing stereotypical comments which only you comprehend.

The Truth Is Marcos Is A Racist.

June 11, 2006 10:09 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Hey, anon @ 10:09!

I remember you!

I sold you a combo plate - carnitas with beans and rice and serrano salsa on the siie.

Don't say you don't remember!

June 11, 2006 11:05 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MARIA........NO, I SOLD YOU THE COMBO. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

June 11, 2006 12:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I love the way Mecha causes so much uproar amongst white people. Nobody ever checks to see if Mark Ridley-Thomas or Nate Holden were Black Panthers.

June 11, 2006 12:38 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Maybe you were the bean and cheese burrito with the extra guac...

June 11, 2006 2:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Josef Goebbels was a far better practitioner of the big lie than you, Marcos Aguilar, or his wife will ever be. This madrassa is a blight on the local community and adversely impacts our real estate values.

June 11, 2006 2:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Goebbels didn't like Mexican food but he was interested in real estate.

June 11, 2006 3:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I hear that Goebbels didn't care too much for Hebrew schools either.

June 11, 2006 3:28 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

More rants; no new facts.

Tell it to your elected school board member, if you're so upset (if any of you even know who that is).

That IS the way it's done in a representative democracy, right?

June 11, 2006 3:43 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Trotsky liked Mexican food and real estate, but got one big migrane because the Mexican revolutionary council was inept in protecting him from Stalin.

Trotsky will soon be rolling in grave again soon after López Obrador loses. Corruption is the national sport and looks Obrador has done his part in keeping the socialist movement in the running corruption wise.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com
/html/nationworld/2003044612_me
xico07.html

Cesspool de Pueblo needs a full audit of all public funds its receives. Are the 4 other board members aside from Aguilar and his wife showing proper fiduciary duty or are they related to the Aguilars?

June 11, 2006 3:47 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If Aguilar and his Mecha comrades had their way, their would be no free speech except for the drivel spouted by his mouthpiece Jennifer Solis.

Aguilar's interview on the Larry Elder Show raises many questions on his competentness and fitness to teach kids using the public tax dollars. It also raises questions of the fitness of any member of the school board that supports him.

http://www.kabc.com/goout.asp?u=http://images.radcity.net/5147/
1475332.wma

June 11, 2006 4:12 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The cheerleader was clearly using the article to perpetuate the Cesspool del Pueblo's version of events.

June 11, 2006 6:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

MEChA comrades - oh I love it. The rhetoric of the right is still steeped in red and black (black list, that is). People and their imaginations.

Hey, didn't you order the sweet tamales? That was you, wasn't it?

June 11, 2006 6:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I think Larry Elder's show raises questions about Larry's fitness and the quality of education he recieved back in the day.

June 11, 2006 6:44 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What's with your little brain and mexican food Maria?

Fixation on food can drive u to obesity.

June 11, 2006 6:57 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Um, I think it's Americans who have the problems with weight, senor. If anyone fixated on food, it's your countrymen.

Me, I just take advantege of their weakness. Give them what they want, why not?

Plus, it is a powerful symbol - but that requires some critical thinking to grasp.

June 11, 2006 7:19 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wow - people turn here so quickly!

Pass the salsa.

June 11, 2006 7:32 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Will you help me buy Mr. Aguilar a one way ticket to CHIAPAS?

Mr. Aguilar can open as many madrassa schools in CHIAPAS as he chooses.

June 11, 2006 8:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Let's save some money and send Mr. Aguilar to Mexico City and with the savings deport his buddy Sub Commander Marcos and the rest of yuppie guerillas from District Federal out of Chiapas which are the sovereign terrority of Los Altos, the sixth Central American Republic that Mexican government took from the Central American Federation.

The native Mayans there have never felt any affinity to the Aztecs much less the Mexican government and it was they not the Aztecs that invented base 20 math and much of culture Mr. Aguilar mistakenly thinks were achievements of the Aztac, that were a bunch of murdering thugs.

June 11, 2006 9:07 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

If they want a mexican education go to mexico. oh i forgot, they would have to pay for it. and aguilar's wouldn't make the money they do here.

this is america, it's a melting pot. start melting...

and it's tax dollars-my dollars paying for this. i don't think so.

the school board and heads of the district are complete idiots... this proves it.

June 11, 2006 9:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Excuse me, am i in the United States?

June 11, 2006 9:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wait un minuto porfavor!!!

Who is right, you or Aguilar.

Did the Aztecs or Mayan invent Base 20 Math?

Aguilar wants a revolution. He will not stop until his little heart's desire a revolucion does occur in USA.

June 11, 2006 9:51 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I'm surprised you let these people leave such nasty comments on thread, Ms. Solis.

It is evident which segment of the population has the time and energy to expend making hateful comments on weblogs.

I for one applaud Ms. Solis for both her commitment to the first Amendment, and for taking a much more objective view than Academia's detractors.

One of the reasons we have a free press is so that we can have a free marketplace of ideas. Part of that marketplace consists of the ideas of the extremists and conspiracy theorists. This is a given and a necessity for any free society.

But one of the benefits of having a mainstream press, for all the flak it gets, is that it tempers extremist, reactionary, and radical interpretations of current events with a dose of reservation and moderation.

I know I shouldn't be amazed that Semillas critics are buying into this hype. After all, last year the biggest threat to American security was "activist judges", and the year before that it was gay marriage. They probably followed those red herrings too. But I have faith and hope in humanity, so it's hard not to be disappointed.

Then again, the true racists have always been against any sort of educational opportunity for people of color. It's simple economic competition, and they know rightly that education is the key to success.

June 11, 2006 10:17 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sure, Aztec Education is the way of the future.

Gosh. Why didn't I think of that.

Forget computers, English language, and common sense. As long as Mr. Aguilar doesn't make patches for little white kids to wear.

June 11, 2006 11:02 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Attention 9:51 PM from 9:07PM

The Mayans evolved much earlier than Aztecs who came from the north around 1300 AD and were foreigners in Meso America (what is today Central America and Central Mexico).

The Aztecs were the barbarians of Americas brutal, uncivilized, and illiterate and like the barbarians that conquered the Roman Empire adopted the trappings of civilization from the people they conquered. The Aztecs lasted about 200 years until the encountered the Spanish

http://www.crystalinks.com/aztech
istory.html

Mayan ruins with the Mayan base 20 math symbols as early as 5th century BC and may be in derived from numeric systems of the Olmec 15th century BC or Cuzcatlan civilization (Central American - Guatemalan highlands and south) 12-13th BC.

Its very clear from studing the glyphs on ruins in Central America as far south Nicaragua and Mayan Dresden Codex (the only surviving written text) - the flow and evolution of numbering systems came from Central America and the Yucatan and traveled North.

http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/HistTopics/Mayan_
mathematics.html

Check out the links-you will have to paste as a continous unbroken line in your browser.

Mr. Aguilar appears to have his facts dead wrong on the Aztecs as the originators of the base 20 math in the Americas and probably much more of ancient Meso American history.

June 11, 2006 11:18 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The Mayans and their precursors may have developed the zero, but who developed those dances that Mr. Aguilar is teaching?
Those Maya got nothing on him!

June 12, 2006 6:53 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Fred Astaire developed the Aztec Dances 4 aguilar.

It was Federico Astarezapatamolido

June 12, 2006 9:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

By your ranters' standards, I attended a Greco-Roman school (would that be "GreCHistas?), because they taught us the names and characteristics of ALL of the greek and roman mythological gods AND Roman numerals, to boot (in addition to everything else Calif, state curriculum requires).

To this DAY the only use I find for Roman numerals is figuring out how many SUPER BOWLS have come before this one each January.

I must have had some of the last "reconqvisimvs" teachers from the Golden Age of Rome - to force me to use all that worthless "old" dead cultural STUFF. (Not to mention the ancient FALSE religions like which constellations are which in ASTROLOGY).

Scandal, scandal, scandal. I am DAMN sure glad that nobody in LAUSD has to study those old, dead, barbaric EURASIAN cultures, their languages, religions, math, or art anymore, like I was forced to in the DARK ages.

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk. . .

June 12, 2006 12:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nyuk the Retard.

Did you Shat yourself while you wrote last post?

June 12, 2006 1:42 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Nyuk,
Back in the old days when I attended LAUSD, we also learned about Native American peoples (including the Aztecs) beginning in about grade 3. In Jr. High, we studied World History and Geography, which covered many of the world's great civilizations.

June 12, 2006 3:05 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Yeah, yeah, but $-for-LAUSD-$ the curriculum spends about 20 times as much textbook space on 1,000-year-old empires, philosophies, and personalities based EAST of Eastern Europe, than anything WEST or SOUTH of the original 13 colonies.

This is the heritage of our East Coast-centric culture that continues to teach us, here in California, that the next big land mass to the west (Asia) is the FAR East.

Huh??

June 12, 2006 3:11 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

I agree, anonymous 3:11 PM, and that is why, when I take over the school system, I will ensure that our students learn how sacrifice of pre-teen girls to placate the rain gods is properly conducted. Furthermore, I believe that the grand traditions of cannibalism that our forefathers practiced should be carried on, and will make reimplementation of those practices within the LAUSD a hallmark of my next term. I am honored to be your representative and am looking forward to your support.

P.S. Among the textbooks I am considering for inclusion in the revised curriculum, this one, authored by a professor of anthropology at UCLA, stands out as one that might help us break away from the stranglehold that so-called "Western Civilization" has on our educational system.

June 12, 2006 4:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

What is the appropriate ceremony to secure a charter school renewal?

June 12, 2006 4:35 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Sorry, ranters... it looks like even "Borg" McIntyre and his All-Assimilation Radio* Krew at KABC (7-of-90 AM) is either running out of steam on this, or the head Mousketeer at Unimatrix One told him to start toning it down a bit -- especially after Villaraigosa's letter (subtly) linked the threats against the school to the radio hyper-coverage.

They only spent a few minutes today, dissecting AV's letter (pretty much ignoring the "there is a mechanism in place for challenging a charter through proper channels").

Heck they fussed about dead elephant for much longer.

(*We are the Borg. Lower your shields. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile; your "semillas" will be assimilated.)

June 12, 2006 5:26 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

You're getting a lot of mileage out of that one, aren't you. Did you spend all morning listening to the the radio and then all afternoon composing your masterpiece just so you could post it here?

It would be interesting to hear you as a guest on McIntyre in the Morning. But since you'd only have at most 2.5 seconds to respond in complete sentences it might not work out.

June 12, 2006 6:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Barely took 2.5 seconds... and I take it by that you mean KABC would cut off anyone actually making a "point" in just under 3 seconds (as opposed to those spewing hate, and hatching conspiracy theories.)

That's the way it's been for the past week, anyway.

I loved the theory of the day -- the principal had someone call in a bomb threat on purpose ("Oh, I can't say that's what happened" (wink, wink), says Doug, (but he just keeps taking the same kind of wacko conspiracy calls).

Those are right up there with "Jews arranged the Twin Towers collisions,"

June 12, 2006 6:48 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

6:33

Say it ain't so... KABC personnel actually trawling among anonymous blog-posters looking for SOME body ANY body) to guest on their show and breathe some life into this DEAD dead story.

Soooo sad.

June 12, 2006 7:06 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

awww, someone needs a cuddle.

June 12, 2006 7:08 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Marcos aguilar needs a cuddle. His racism comes out of anger in lack of parents. Grandma was good but could never be enough. He's angry.

June 12, 2006 7:20 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

NY Times:
To Aztecs, Cannibalism Was a Status Symbol

June 12, 2006 7:22 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

OK.
All who decry the arrival of the Europeans please stand up and start walking south, southeast. If you go far enough you will find your brothers living in a paradise called Amazonia.
Thanks to Chicanodemia, you will be able to say to them "I come in peace" in Nahuatl and live happily ever after.

June 12, 2006 7:33 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Wait, you can't quote the New York Times to make a legitimate commentary on Aztec culture. The New York Times is within the box of white culture, so it doesn't apply. A correction is in order.

Howabout this...

Aztec Tribune: Cannibalism is Terrific!!

June 12, 2006 8:03 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Marcos Aguilar has had a grand case of foot in mouth disease. If he had acted even somewhat contrite or concerned about the assault on Sandy Wells - much less even done what liberals allways demand offer an apology even if none was due, he would have easily diffused the matter.

Instead his in your face arrogance with the public and the news media only worsens his public image and the school as well. Snarky and clever remarks in response to questions never ingratiates a public figure to the public.

Its very clear Marcos "Nixon Agonistes" Aguilar is only digging a bigger and bigger hole for himself and impugning the character of all Mexicans working here whether legal or not with a cover-up of what really occurred whether or not he had any direct involvement or not.

Doug MacIntyre has shown some real class putting up a reward for the alleged bomb threats to the school. Aguilar is incapable of reciprocating and offering a reward for the threats on Doug's life.

June 12, 2006 11:13 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

"Instead his in your face arrogance with the public ..."

He IS an arrogan SOB! I've met him too many times. My boy goes to the school and my exwife is crazy. She drools at his every word and I tell her he has psychological problems. I'll take her to court and get my kid back.

June 12, 2006 11:25 PM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

So it's "America" learn to speak the language, or leave it.

Your redneck daddies would be proud, (if you could find them... somewhere).

June 13, 2006 12:19 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Get real, McIntyre offered his reward because KABC legal, or PR, or both told him to do something to show "concern" and humanity, in the midst of all his race-baiting and rabid drooling call-ins.

Disney does NOT want to deal with a Latino boycott... not in So. Calif. That's for sure.

June 13, 2006 2:13 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

Marcos Aguilar #1
Hector Carreon has it right! Gringos can't deal with Truth!

June 13, 2006 7:02 AM  

Anonymous Anonymous said:

The truth is out there.
From University of California:
El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal "gringo" invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlán from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny.

We are free and sovereign to determine those tasks which are justly called for by our house, our land, the sweat of our brows, and by our hearts. Aztlán belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent

Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner "gabacho" who exploits our riches and destroys our culture. With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we declare the independence of our mestizo nation. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlán.

Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.

June 13, 2006 6:47 PM  

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